What is the official take by this forum on how to deal with homosexuality? What should be done to help these people or alternately be ridden if them?WHITE PRIDE MONTH

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[–]Fonched 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

What do you say about its' presence throughout history and cultures?

[–]YJaewedwqewqClerical Fascist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Cultures that accepted and promoted it were/are degenerate and destined to fall or change. Its presence in history is moot; just because something has been around for a long time doesn't make it good or okay.

(((Enlightenment thinkers))) capitalized on it and other societal ills that were before minor footnotes and rarely an issue and made them into huge issues that threatened and continue to threaten entire societies.

[–]Fonched 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Which ones were degenerative exactly prior to the Enlightenment?

[–]YJaewedwqewqClerical Fascist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

in Europe, the Greeks and Romans were no strangers to it, and both of their cultures eventually degenerated and crumbled due to that and other forms of degeneracy and decadence, as an example.

[–]Fonched 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Where could I read more about this?

I would also like to talk about societies that have been more tolerant throughout history or built creation myths around homosexualtiy/transgenderism. What do you think about this?

[–]YJaewedwqewqClerical Fascist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Why should I care about the contents of that link? An obviously far-left pro-gay pro-tranny article whining about conservatives saying that their degeneracy is bad is of no substance or interest.

And why would you bother asking my opinion on something like that? I don't care about those societies and I'm glad that most of them are dead and gone or have been transformed into something better with the introduction of correct cultural values and folklore.

[–]Fonched 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Welll I will admit that person is quite biased and moans about criticism as if it is the worst thing ever.

I did ask, though just in case one would have more insight on such history.

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To some degree, we can never really know. There will always be some level of revisionism. Regardless, it seems pretty clear that there was a lot of homosexual behavior before Judeo-Christianity. It is curious that Jews have led the gay movement in the West, even though the Old Testament seems to be the origin of anti-homosexuality. And there is a lot of nuance involved here. For example, even though pederastic relationships were widespread in Ancient Greece, they were not, as a rule, sodomitical.

This EoT fellow makes some better points in this one.

Although I tend to avoid both horrendous trannies like this EoT fellow and schizomaxxers like MrE.

[–]Fonched 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, I would like to take some sections into close account just in case. Such societies are often held as counterexamples to theories of social contagion, or are somehow supposed to demonstrate that there is a manipulative element inducing anti-gay attitudes.

I do find it better researched. Whether it is discrimination or inherent factors to blame for any downsides is something to look into.

Regarding Christianity and homosexuality, you may have seen the claims that the Bible was indifferent on homosexuality and that such "clobber passages" were misinterpreted. Yet, this seems to fly in the face of its social acceptance over the centuries and the importance of Christianity to many societies.

[–]douglas_waltersWhite Supremacist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I am no expert in history, but aren’t invasive barbarian hordes and multiculturalism the primary arguments used to explain the decline of the Roman Empire?

I just believe this is not a particularly complex nor important issue like the JQ, for instance. Solving the incel problem, banning LGBT propaganda (including porn) and outlawing public displays of such perversion would see levels of homosexuality decline to irrelevancy.

[–]YJaewedwqewqClerical Fascist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am no expert in history, but aren’t invasive barbarian hordes and multiculturalism the primary arguments used to explain the decline of the Roman Empire?

Indeed, but I would wager that the main proponents of such drastic and ridiculous societal movements also supported or participated in the equally degenerate and culture-eroding faggotry that was rampant in Roman society at various points.

I just believe this is not a particularly complex nor important issue like the JQ, for instance.

You are correct in that it isn't complex, but it definitely is serious. The rate at which young, innocent children are bullied, traumatized, indoctrinated, and turned into eunuchs, freaks, or suicide statistics is not only high by constantly increasing. For Whites to survive we need normal, healthy straight couples. Faggots can't have kids, not naturally at least, and they shoudln't be allowed near kids in any circumstance.

Solving the incel problem, banning LGBT propaganda (including porn) and outlawing public displays of such perversion would see levels of homosexuality decline to irrelevancy.

Yes, but the thing is such acts directly undermine globogomo and therefore we'd need significant regime change to see anything close to such measures, even despite their cursory and common sense nature.