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[–]YJaewedwqewqClerical Fascist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Why should I care about the contents of that link? An obviously far-left pro-gay pro-tranny article whining about conservatives saying that their degeneracy is bad is of no substance or interest.

And why would you bother asking my opinion on something like that? I don't care about those societies and I'm glad that most of them are dead and gone or have been transformed into something better with the introduction of correct cultural values and folklore.

[–]Fonched 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Welll I will admit that person is quite biased and moans about criticism as if it is the worst thing ever.

I did ask, though just in case one would have more insight on such history.

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To some degree, we can never really know. There will always be some level of revisionism. Regardless, it seems pretty clear that there was a lot of homosexual behavior before Judeo-Christianity. It is curious that Jews have led the gay movement in the West, even though the Old Testament seems to be the origin of anti-homosexuality. And there is a lot of nuance involved here. For example, even though pederastic relationships were widespread in Ancient Greece, they were not, as a rule, sodomitical.

This EoT fellow makes some better points in this one.

Although I tend to avoid both horrendous trannies like this EoT fellow and schizomaxxers like MrE.

[–]Fonched 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, I would like to take some sections into close account just in case. Such societies are often held as counterexamples to theories of social contagion, or are somehow supposed to demonstrate that there is a manipulative element inducing anti-gay attitudes.

I do find it better researched. Whether it is discrimination or inherent factors to blame for any downsides is something to look into.

Regarding Christianity and homosexuality, you may have seen the claims that the Bible was indifferent on homosexuality and that such "clobber passages" were misinterpreted. Yet, this seems to fly in the face of its social acceptance over the centuries and the importance of Christianity to many societies.