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[–]Girondin 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Something tells me, however, that the case of these medical experts was torpedoed as the defense stepped in to make their arguments. What was this about exactly?

Im confused what you mean here, the medical experts were spouting total bullshit (particulary Toobin).

Struck me as kind of a quack tbh put a lot of stock in a theoretical model full of fake precision and denied categorically that there might be significant individual variation in the mechanism. His biggest whopper to me was his critique of positional studies involving putting weight on the backs of participants; he said that, because the study used flat plates, it’s an “order of magnitude difference” bc pressure scales with area. Obviously, while narrowly true, the pressure is then redistributed by the ribcage etc before inciding on the lungs. These sorts of things made me iffy on his testimony.

In general though he expressed most fully the mechanism that the prosecution proposes for GF’s death. While he mentioned the neck, a hypothesis the prosecution is clearly loath to abandon, the meat of it was reduction in lung capacity from positional asphyxia and pressure to the back. (It doesn’t really make sense for neck compression to have an additive effect with lung capacity.)

I was surprised that the defense barely mentioned wooden chest syndrome given that the prosecution’s experts made a pretty good case for asphyxia and that “normal” opiate deaths don’t look like that. Maybe they were banking on Andrew Baker’s testimony that in his opinion GF died of a cardiac event. In any case, curious to see what their expert witnesses will say.

I am also open to a few other things of note or any other sources that try to tell the prosecution’s story.

Read any mainstream newspaper or liberal blogger. For the defense read Andrew branca's blog for further analysis on the whole thing (comes in both audio and text version). For a quick summary see George Floyd Guide

Besides the episodes of jury intimidation and auspicious links to BLM, does anyone believe that the findings stated in the article (prosection's arguments) were items that drove the jurors to convict Chauvin?

Prediction markets were all predicting Chauvin to be free of any charges, but I know this cleary wasn't going to be the case due to Jury selection. Some of the ones picked include a BLM supporting Liberal Jew, a African immigration who literally believed black people are better and who watched the video 8-9 times, a social worker etc.

I watched the prosecution arguement and they were saying such stupid shit like how Chauvin has a heart the size of the Grinch's heart. It was very unconvincing, only if I already believed in guilt beforehand would I be convinced. We also learned after the trail one the jurors lied and was active organizer for BLM.

What would you say about the presence of other deaths purported to be caused by kneeling?

I find the claim to be bogus, It depends on the position, you can kneel on someone and it causes no real harm, Police are trained in the least harmful kneeling techniques, Chauvin did that technique.

[–]Fonched[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for the link to anosognosic's page. A deep rabbit hole with lots of back-and-forth and off-topic stuff... but the diversity of arguments all add on to the topic. Too bad he hasn't been present for late-trial/verdict. Branca's blog covers that, although most of the content seems to be paid.

Most who see these kinds of arguments will just say a blanket statement of "but the jury said otherwise!" from what I have seen.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The jury was litetally infiltrated by jewish and black lives matter lives matter negro leftists.

[–]Fonched[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, one that seems to have been pro-BLM and swayed by Tobin's testimony.

[–]AngryBannedRedditor 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

What I am mostly concerned about is anything that has to do with the drugs in his system that would have triggered an overdose.

A medical expert testified that Floyd did not have enough drugs in his system to cause an overdose.

fentanyl isn't what killed Floyd, and the amount in his system was similar to that found in people who took the drug and were arrested for DUI, but didn't die.

Blood tests conducted as part of Floyd's post-mortem autopsy revealed 11 nanograms per milliliter, or ng/ml, of fentanyl present. According to expert witnesses, this wasn't enough to be considered fatal.

He stated because fentanyl typically slows down a person's breathing, the drug was not a contributing factor based on his calculations of Floyd's breathing rate based on witness video, which at the time appeared about the same as a healthy individual.

While Floyd's toxicology report did reveal fentanyl present, expert witnesses at his murder trial have stated there was not enough to be considered fatal or impact his breathing and oxygen levels. Floyd died due to lack of oxygen from the force of Chauvin's knee on his neck.

Besides the episodes of jury intimidation

What jury intimidation? Their names and addresses are not available to the public. Did someone go to their homes and intimidate them into voting for an acquittal.

What would you say about the presence of other deaths purported to be caused by kneeling?

Those deaths have nothing to do with Floyd because there are not any other instances of a cop kneeling on a suspects neck putting all of his weight on someone's neck for over 9 minutes.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Aren't you that troll that went around claiming that "rioters" killed police officers at the Jan 6th U.S. capitol protest? I think you've been bamboozled again.