Have you heard of the "adoption" argument TRAs are using? How do we tackle it?

Sebell · 2021-11-10T00:12:41+00:00

72% of English words have more than one meaning. That's how "TWAW" takes off as a meme - when I first heard it, I thought no one could be stupid enough to think transwomen were actually, literally, women, it just meant that in certain contexts, we treat them as women. No one would think it's literally true right?

AhAhAHHhahaha

Anyways - Historically, adoptions historically were hidden. Children would be adopted, their birth certificate amended with a lie that their birth parents were someone else, and the child never told about it.

Today - we think that is horrifically and horribly wrong. We expect older children, teenagers, and adults, to be able to tell the difference between a birth mother and a adoptive mother. People avoid calling attention to the fact that they are adopted.

Changing someone's sex on their documentation had the same purpose: to hide the truth so people wouldn't know someone had a sex change. It does serve the same function - avoiding unwanted attention.

In both cases though - we know that an adoptive mom isn't a biological mom, just like we should know a transwoman isn't a real woman.

Sebell · 2021-11-04T12:43:48+00:00

I guess it didn't bother me because I'm so desensitized to it now - I mean, I see stuff like this all the time:

“If TERFs think trans* is an endemic threat to feminism, let us be the threat to feminism…

Picture this: I hold a knife to your throat and spit my transness into your ear. Does that turn you on? Are you scared? I sure fucking hope so.”

Matt Thompson, LSE GENDER STUDIES MSc STUDENT

https://sex-matters.org/posts/the-workplace/gender-studies-and-sexualised-threats/

Sebell · 2021-11-04T12:38:29+00:00

In context of misconduct in front of the camera while doing porn work: yes.

But it's important to note how common this is in porn, she's one of the few people who said she chooses to believe women and accepts that her intent didn't matter - all that matters is how the women feel about the experiences they had.

This is how everyone else responds:

https://jezebel.com/a-flood-of-sexual-assault-allegations-in-the-porn-indus-1844039798

The allegations recently resurfaced on Twitter and, when asked by the trade publication XBIZ about the claims, Stagliano pointed to a YouTube interview in which he said, “We’re all assuming that you’re an adult and you can just say ‘no’ when you don’t want to do something instead of say, ‘Well, I didn’t really want to do it. Oh, the pressure [pretend crying]. Oh, help me.’ Well, say ‘help me!’” He continued, “Women want the right to be equal to men, and there comes a little responsibility with that. Which is: stand up for yourself.” Stagliano added, “Don’t expect us to treat you like a full human being if you don’t act like a full human being.”

Sebell · 2021-11-04T11:59:26+00:00

Using AMAB - which is what transactivists ask for - is now... prejudiced?

They also don't understand "Erasure" which isn't surprising - they took the word and twisted it.

Traditionally, it's use in Women's Studies is talking about the fact that women make up 50% of the population, but they were not present, or "erased" from history books and other forms of media and communication - they weren't represented, they were erased.

Transactivists took it and turned it into "you're trying to erase me" aka "you're trying to kill me". That's their definition of it.

Some of these terms I've never heard of, and I've been around GC spaces for years.

Sebell · 2021-10-28T21:04:45+00:00

So, a character that is clearly "the bad guy" of two moves does bad things... and it's something to be angry about? It's horrible that an evil character knows how to get under the good characters skin by picking on their insecurity?

Sebell · 2020-09-02T01:59:13+00:00

Anytime someone on reddit says "I'm passing..." look at their history, you'll find their selfies pretty easily, and... never has one been close to passing. I'm not going to say across a room you might not notice, or you might not notice right away until someone speaks, but unless someone has had a lot of surgery, they don't tend to pass - and then they look like someone who has had a lot of surgery done.

The transwomen who pass the best are actually 60 - 80 year olds who aren't super concerned with their looks anymore and transitioned a long time ago. But they aren't transbians - they are attracted to men. That makes a HUGE difference. Transwomen attracted to men are much more likely to pass, for whatever reason.

Sebell · 2020-09-02T01:55:04+00:00

"When I hear a lesbian rule out trans women because of the presence of a hidden penis, I feel sorry for her partner, because how superficial is that?"

The good 'ol 1 - 2: "Of course I'm not saying genital preferences are wrong" but "I'm telling you - genital preferences are wrong!"

Sebell · 2020-08-31T12:38:23+00:00

Keep in mind this is intentional. They come in and make a post - to see how people respond. If they respond badly, they make a few more from alt accounts, then they use the responses and report them to brigade subs.

That's what they've done to multiple sub-reddits. If you read the brigade subs - it's so clear it's a tactic.

Sebell · 2020-08-31T03:36:47+00:00

Now, they aren't saying you aren't homosexual, just that you need to consider that your homosexuality might not be genuine - you need to really think about the effects of the pressure to be straight and unpack how that might make you gay. Oh sorry, got lost trying to follow the argument. I meant "cissexism" might make you think you are gay when you are really bisexual.

(Obviously /s here - Questioning if someone is "really gay" or "really bi" or really anything is just inappropriate assholeness regardless.)

Sebell · 2020-08-28T10:59:54+00:00

You don't "owe" anyone an explanation when you break up. You definitely need to have someone on your side in real life - you don't have to tell them why either, just that you're going through a rough patch and breaking up.

Women are socialized to care for others - to our own detriment. You have to put yourself first. A partner isn't someone who needs a care taker. A real partner is a give and take relationship, each of you looking out for each other. You're describing a one-sided relationship - that's enough reason to get out, even if you were bisexual and the rest didn't matter.

Sebell · 2020-08-25T11:45:03+00:00

My dr was shocked when I needed care and wanted to go to a non-religious hospital. This is something I think a lot of people don't know or think about - Churches running hospitals and dictating what they can and can't do.

Sebell · 2020-08-25T03:32:38+00:00

You're not a man, you're a woman who transitioned to look like a man.

You're also an asshole. Have a nice day!

Edit: Whoa, reading through your comment history - you're a RAGING ASSHOLE. You're a horrible person who relies on mocking, attacking, and putting down others to feel better about yourself. I feel sorry for you.

Sebell · 2020-08-03T12:04:56+00:00

1 hospital down... 6000 to go?

Sebell · 2020-07-30T16:49:20+00:00

... http://www.suicide.org/memorials/lindsay-armstrong.html

"And after a lengthy, relentless, and brutal cross-examination by the attorney, unbelievably, the rapist himself was allowed to cross-examine her -- the laws in Scotland at that time actually allowed rapists to cross-examine their vicitms"

WHAT?!

Sebell · 2020-07-30T16:22:31+00:00

I absolutely think that yes - part of the madness is to claim that transwomen are "real women" and adult human females are "nonbinary" and therefore not women, when it comes to legal matters.

I will say - only on the part of a few extremists activists, and not on the mainstream feel-good-woke-tag-alongs.

It's like the difference between a Vegan who feels everyone should be forced to be Vegan, and one who is Vegan but doesn't expect anyone else to be Vegan.

Sebell · 2020-07-30T16:03:17+00:00

Can I critique this?

If you want to change people's minds - you have to learn persuasive writing and speech. Direct confrontation almost always backfires.

Sebell · 2020-07-30T12:37:45+00:00

I had a "flu like illness" and a cough that last 12 weeks after recovering. It's very well recognized diseases, after the initial infection, can continue to cause issues. "It can't be helped" isn't "It doesn't exist".

Sebell · 2020-07-29T12:43:15+00:00

Wow, thanks for finding the full quote. Something that is so clearly "gender identity is not innate, it is taught through socialization" - and they try to twist it to be supportive of innate gender identity...

Sebell · 2020-07-27T03:59:39+00:00

Feminism isn't "making a choice". It's fighting for the FREEDOM and right to choose. Not the same thing at all!

Feminism is an activist fighting for women to have the choice. You get to choose to wear heels or to not wear them. Maybe you normally do, but don't on a Monday because you're legs ache, after running over the weekend. Great! You have the choice.

In 2016, a woman in Britain was fired for not wearing high heels to work. She wasn't the first, won't be the last. She didn't have the choice not to wear them.

Sebell · 2020-07-25T12:41:41+00:00

Yes, it definitely is. It's an attempt to control the discussion, shift the debate, and prevent people from talking about the subject at hand.

Sebell · 2020-07-23T16:15:13+00:00

I am reading this now, and - it's heartbreaking. Every parent should read this.

We need more girls able to watch "Peachyoghurt Genderfree"

Sebell · 2020-07-22T18:32:24+00:00

First, you must define "Attraction".

I would define attraction as "all the various things that make me want to be in a monogamous relationship with someone". The way a person looks does matter, but you can find surveys of people that confirm there are more important things than looks when choosing a partner. Only really shallow people define attraction as "the way someone looks".

Sebell · 2020-07-22T13:02:29+00:00

Yeah, that's the stuff I get and it's not "sexy" - I wouldn't respond to a sexy ad, they turn me off. I don't sexually objectify women even if I'm attracted to them - I know how harmful and hurtful it is and won't do it.

Sebell · 2020-07-22T12:55:50+00:00

People were always accusing GC of racism, and never once giving examples.

Finally, after the banning, I saw 1 (yes just one) comment about what was racist on GC: "Comparing Rachel Dolzal and her appropriation of blackness to transwomen's appropriation of womanhood". That's it, that's what was "racist". And yes, that comes from someone who thinks "Transwomen are Women" - therefore the comparison is unfair.

Frankly, I'm tired of censorship and little holes where no one discusses anything. I don't think most "Woke" people can defend their positions. They don't have to. They just say "TERF!" or "CANCELLED" and never explain their position at all. It's one of the reasons trans-activist-ideology is so weak - they simply ignore all critique and say "disagreement is transphobia".

Sebell · 2020-07-22T12:33:05+00:00

I think everyone here needs to read this.

This is the kind of writing that changes people's minds - not the lectures. Not the put-downs. Not the insults. This. This is what I want to read.

Sebell · 2020-07-22T00:52:58+00:00

Honestly - the lack of down-voting means I'm a lot more free to post what I'm thinking, and not worry so much that someone might take it the wrong way.

I also don't have to worry about posting something that will "get us in trouble".

Sebell · 2020-07-18T13:38:58+00:00

This was refreshing to read, thank you.

I always have to push it isn't "Queer Feminism" but "Trans Feminism" - like Julia Serrano - that actually pushes the idea that women is an identity.

Queer Feminism, as it was taught to me, was about "Queering Gender" - by "rebelling" against gender stereotypes, we can destroy the inequality between the sexes. "Queer theory holds that individual sexuality is a fluid, fragmented, and dynamic collectivity of possible sexualities and it may vary at different points during one's life." (Yes, it's postmodern, based in deconstruction, etc). It's not really that different from the 2nd Wave position that destroying the idea of "man" and "women" as social roles in a society would lead to more freedom, it's just a lot more philosophical and intellectual and inaccessible.

TransFeminism is the idea that male and female are essences, they are innate, they can't be changed, but they aren't binary, and if we loosen the binary, but appreciated "feminine traits" more as society, then society will be more equal. Discrimination is against "feminine" traits, not "female" people. It's strongly influenced by Queer Theory, and people try hard to reconcile both points of view, but if we name the problem it's Transfeminism, not Queer Theory. The argument is "transwomen exist, and we don't know why, but because they do, it proves that innate sense of gender exists in all people". Because of this - it's accessible and easy to understand and THIS is what people are pushing as a message.

Sebell · 2020-07-17T14:11:51+00:00

I saw someone post today about ROGD (though they didn't call it that...) and the reddit responses were "informed consent doesn't exist! You have to see a therapist for years in order to get access to medication!". I didn't engage because I would just end up banned from the sub.

That's the stuff that irritates me. You can argue "informed consent reduces barriers to treatment for transgender individuals" - without lying about it. But that's the whole argument. "I'm critical of x practice though" - it never happens! You're misinformed!

It's maddening, because the people making these arguments actually DO KNOW BETTER - you can see from their post history they are very involved in the trans communities - but they just straight up lie, to keep people from looking and thinking critically.

Sebell · 2020-07-16T12:21:17+00:00

I have to admit - I never expected people to claim "cancel culture isn't real". You notice the less powerful people that signed that letter are facing consequences for it? People on the letter "retracting" their signatures due to harassment?

"The key elements of cancel culture, therefore, are that: the individual or group calling for the cancellation puts pressure on some third party to impose sanctions on the putative transgressor..."

... Oh come on, it's not like groups spent years pressuring Reddit to ban certain subreddits, and were celebrating when Reddit finally gave up and did it... /s

Sebell · 2020-07-15T14:08:24+00:00

Why "troll"? I would never join it before because I think of "trolling" as aberrant. If it's a meme sub, why not "Meme"?

Sebell · 2020-07-15T01:15:35+00:00

"This, the opening line of Book II, is de Beauvoir’s most famous statement. It represents the logical continuation of the proofs de Beauvoir offers in Book I to support her argument that femininity does not arise from differences in biology, psychology, or intellect. Rather, femininity is a construction of civilization, a reflection not of “essential” differences in men and women but of differences in their situation. Situation determines character, not the other way around. Woman is not born fully formed; she is gradually shaped by her upbringing. Biology does not determine what makes a woman a woman—a woman learns her role from man and others in society. Woman is not born passive, secondary, and nonessential, but all the forces in the external world have conspired to make her so."

I have no idea why transwomen keep quoting this. It means "women's behavior doesn't come from biology, it isn't innate - it's taught to them by society".

The exact opposite of "My gender is innate, I have a gender identity".

Sebell · 2020-07-14T23:42:47+00:00

Transhumanism blew me away when I first heard about it. You can't really "argue against it" if someone believes in it - but, uh, normal people think it's a bit freaky.

Sebell · 2020-07-14T20:00:53+00:00

Look at Margaret Mead - she was an anthropologist, and feminist anthropology had a HUGE impact on feminism in the 60's and 70's. You have to remember that people felt that "women were biologically inferior" - so there was a real need to show that the "system" of male and female was oppressive, it wasn't just "women are born inferior to men" and "women are feminine because biology forces them to be that way". Anthropologists started showing that different cultures have different "roles" for men and women and it's not universal, and if it's not universal from society to society - it's hard to say it's biology.

It's clear to us today, but it was hard to say back then - it was controversial.

Monique Wittig wrote books in 1964 and 69. "Sex" and "Gender" were both interchangeable words at that time - the concept of there being a "class" of women, or women being a "role" was still new. So that's what she's arguing against: Women are not born to be docile and submissive.

Much later - you have transfeminist Julia Serrano come in the picture. She argues that "females" do not face oppression, "feminine" people do. Women are defined by being "feminine", and "feminine" people are oppressed. Thus - butch women are less oppressed than feminine men. "Woman" should be defined by "femininity" and man by "masculinity" and those that are neither don't need to be either.

There isn't anything wrong with that as a personal explanation of oneself and a search for meaning in one's own life - but it crosses into the political, and the need to define "woman" and women's rights as belonging to "feminine" people, not "females".

It's a regressive point of view that circles back to say that "Women are feminine because they can't help but being born feminine". That's the exact point of view Monique Wittig is fighting against.

Sebell · 2020-07-14T17:44:14+00:00

First, you have to find out how the author defines words like gender and sex - for instance, I've read a work where "sex" was the word that meant "sex roles" - the roles men and women play in society are socially defined.

ETA: Just read a summary of her work - she's using "sex" to mean "sex roles" - the categories people are placed into and expected to behave by.

Sebell · 2020-07-14T12:48:33+00:00

This is a video of a transwoman explaining that "I'm not saying you have to have to have sex with transwomen, you're just a bigot if you don't", and a great takedown by Magdalen Berns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_5FFGrGzJw

Sebell · 2020-07-14T10:10:19+00:00

So, let's say you're a guy and you post "I like playing video games with female avatars". That's common right? People don't always use the avatar that represents them?

They would refer to that person as being an "egg who hasn't cracked" - meaning - they are transgender because "real men" would never use a female avatar. Any gender non-conforming behavior is "proof" that person is trans - which is backwards from the old view that gender dysphoria was "persistent, insistent, consistent" in "cross gender behavior and statements".

Sebell · 2020-07-14T02:04:04+00:00

This is an article from 2014 about a Porn director that refused to hire a pre-op transwoman for porn:

https://www.lilycade.com/why-i-went-to-war/

This is the first mention I found in actual lesbians on reddit. Lesbian saying she isn't having sex with her transwoman girlfriend due to "low libido" - yet... it sounds like she's not sexually interested in her "girlfriend".
https://www.reddit.com/r/actuallesbians/comments/h9sjhq/why_do_you_think_more_people_in_society_seem_to/

Here is some gaslighting about what a lesbian is: https://www.reddit.com/r/actuallesbians/comments/g7173u/can_we_ban_that_question_already/

Here is a post seriously saying transwomen are the same a black women: https://www.reddit.com/r/actuallesbians/comments/h14dlh/this_whole_trans_women_pressuring_lesbians_into/

And that's all the really mild stuff. JK Rowling got tons of "suck my girldick" comments on twitter. But they argue that's not a "threat of violence".

Last, google "Seven sex attacks prison transwomen" - and read all the articles about sexual offenders transitioning for the purpose of sexually assaulting women in prison. Yeah. So safe around women.

Sebell · 2020-07-13T23:25:14+00:00

The PCOS sub was brigated by Gendercynical/AHS. Response? "Reddit Admin" suggested they add a male moderator. At least - I assume male based on selfies, they don't advertise their pronouns. (Also a moderator of TwoXXChromosomes).

Pretty much every "women's space" on Reddit is run by men, who kick out women.

I learned not to care because we could at least have women's subs. But, they deleted "actualwomen" too.

Sebell · 2020-07-13T20:57:23+00:00

The reason they don't consider breast reductions medically necessary unless someone is in severe pain is because of risk vs reward - the risk is high enough, you could be replacing one problem with another problem. (Cosmetic is "you are an adult, if you pay for it you can take the responsibility for the poor outcome" - but I think it's clear sometimes people don't have fully understanding of the risk).

Sebell · 2020-07-13T16:45:09+00:00

As much as I appreciate the fact that we are starting to stand up for teenage girls and young women -

I wonder if people won't really listen until the "egg" community, that recruits young men, is finally in the news, exposed, and treated as real - because it's something that impacts men and boys.

Sebell · 2020-07-12T15:48:26+00:00

A cervix is always described as "the end of the vagina" or "opening to the uterus."

... it is not a part of the vaginal canal, it IS A THE UTERUS. It's the bottom of the uterus! ... I didn't know that, and I don't think everyone knows that.

Sebell · 2020-07-12T14:51:25+00:00

I just wish they'd label the sub "Transwomen and the women who date transwomen" and stop pretending to be a lesbian sub.

Sebell · 2020-07-12T14:35:48+00:00

Fear of being called a "Karen" makes women modify their behavior.

So yes, it's a sexist term.

Sebell · 2020-07-11T19:27:31+00:00

Those subs were brigaded by TransRights Activists, and the members rose up to defend them.

Sebell · 2020-07-11T17:50:48+00:00

It is very confusing. This is the easier explanation:

"TERF" is just a word to mean "this women is working for the devil. If you listen to her, with her wily ways, she'll seduce you into doing the devil's work! Stop, now, while you are still pure! Do not listen to her evil words!"

Sebell · 2020-07-11T13:38:45+00:00

Yes, your sex and medical history matter:

New study from 2017: Men under the age of 50 years were 1.5 times more likely to die within three years, if they had received a red blood cell transfusion from a female who has been pregnant before.

Sebell · 2020-07-11T12:29:05+00:00

I was allowed to attend college to get a "Mrs" degree - that is - I was allowed to go to college so I'd be around college-education men, and catch a husband. Afterward, I wouldn't focus on my career - just my husband and children.

A lot of women with degrees are expected to get "Mrs" degrees - not have careers.

Sebell · 2020-07-11T12:14:48+00:00

Well, a transwoman wrote this book you see, it says "women do not face discrimination for being female". Rather, feminine people face discrimination.

Therefore - all our laws need to be updated to reflect "feminine people" and not "female people".

A TERF is anyone who thinks "female people" might face discrimination too. That's the root of the argument - the rest is just fluff.

Sebell · 2020-07-11T12:07:33+00:00

I saw someone post an example of "hate speech" - it was someone posting their own story. Not attacking anyone, not disrespecting anyone, just telling their own story.

Sebell · 2020-07-10T21:27:44+00:00

When the first ban wave came, I purposely left de-trans and stopped posting there to protect them. They are NOT the same as GC - they are real people who deserve their own space. So maddening.

It's a witch-hunt.

Sebell · 2020-07-10T15:50:08+00:00

I was banned for... pointing out something was sexist.

Sebell · 2020-07-10T08:38:06+00:00

They have a very strict, pro-men version of "feminism" they enforce.

Sebell · 2020-07-10T02:21:18+00:00

Against Hate Subreddits is full of hatred. They brigade subs. They troll. They need to spend some time in front of a mirror.

Sebell · 2020-07-09T20:37:57+00:00

This gave me a security warning - it might be a bad ad or something malicious.

But I've seen some of the discussion around this - they filed an HR complaint, made public they were filing an HR complaint, and then are doing some serious DARVO.

Sebell · 2020-07-09T17:23:22+00:00

Wait, it wasn't just deleted - she was suspended for that??

Sebell · 2020-07-09T10:26:57+00:00

Queer sometimes means "gender non confirming" - so what OP is describing is correct - there are heterosexual "Queer" people.

Sebell · 2020-07-09T03:55:25+00:00

It's not liberal feminism - it's transfeminism. Julia Serrano if you want to read up on it.

She argues that women do not face discrimination. Feminine people do. This puts "butch women" above "transwomen" in terms of oppression points.

Next, she argues something or another about adherance to the binary.

Now - most of them have not actually read the source so they can't name it, or articulate it very well, and frankly, it's a lot of drivel. But there are some good summaries out there of her work. But what they are advocating is "transfeminism" - oppression is based on being feminine, or masculine, NOT on being female or male.

Radical Feminism, among other things - is the belief we should change society. Liberal Feminism, among other things, is the belief we should preserve society - and make smaller changes.

I have been doing a lot of feminist reading lately...

Oh, this is a great review, start here: https://www.sociologylens.net/topics/gender/julia-seranos-whipping-girl-a-review/11727

Comments are golden "fix this" "oh i humbly apologize for my transgressions".

Sebell · 2020-07-09T01:15:28+00:00

I have seen TIMs who care about women and women's rights - they even started a meeting group called "New Narratives". They were harassed, threatened, attempts to DOXX, cancel, get them fired from their jobs - the TRAs use threats of violence to put fear in the minds of anyone who disagrees with them. They could only get 8 transwomen to come:

https://newnarratives2014.wordpress.com/

Snowflake Especial is worth reading too. But she's stopped posting. I hope she's ok - I feel she was probably burned out or had real life events to focus on:

https://snowflakeespecial.tumblr.com/

Sebell · 2020-07-09T00:59:59+00:00

Not the op of this thread, but one of the things I disliked about GC is the "HE!" comments all the time. (Mods i love you please don't ban me for saying this I'm not a troll).

Look - I 100% understand the philosophy. I fully respect the reasoning, I'll fight for people's rights to misgender (accidentally or philosophically), but it's one of those middle-of-the-road things where I ... I just don't care about pronouns. I have been using they/them for 20 years for both men and women when, in context, the sex of the person in the story isn't central to the story.

I totally get when you can be prosecuted or arrested for misgendering - it becomes much more critical (UK, looking at you). I'm safe in my "MAH FREE SPEACH" American bubble - free speech is a hill Americans WILL DIE ON. I know others aren't as lucky.

The really angry HE HE HE! types of posts actually scare me off and make me not want to participate. And I had more than 10k in karma from GC comments ;)

Sebell · 2020-07-09T00:28:13+00:00

What's sad is that TRA's invaded PCOS, and the users fought back. And they blocked the users there.

And it was overrun with transwomen. Not transmen.

PCOS is believed to be caused by high testosterone. Transmen take testosterone. Yes, some of the symptoms overlap - the hair loss, the damage to the organs, etc - but the cause is different.

Sebell · 2020-07-08T23:29:49+00:00

I can't be the only one who realized participation in GC means "auto-ban" from other communities... so I stopped posting in other communities. And... I've never been banned from them, so I'm not ban-evading if I post there now.

Sebell · 2020-07-07T19:14:36+00:00

I saw someone post about this on another forum. "A forum I love dearly..." I looked at that user's history, and they'd never posted in PCOS before. Ever. Yet, it was "dear" to them.

Sebell · 2020-07-07T17:47:05+00:00

If you name subs here, they will be targeted next.

Sebell · 2020-07-07T17:26:37+00:00

Just want to confirm - at least one of the mods is a Transwoman and doesn't hide it in any way. That individual is also a moderator of TwoXChromosomes.

I would ask "why would someone who never experiences PCOS want to be a moderator of a PCOS community? Shouldn't people with PCOS be the moderators"?

But you all know the answer to that.

ETA - Actually, one of the mods is clearly male, hasn't transitioned (at least of 2 months ago), "hates TERFS and SWERFS" - everything they say is very typical transwoman behavior, but I couldn't find any posting of his pronouns or declarations he is Trans - so, without him declaring his pronouns, I can't be sure what his "gender identity" is - because you can't see gender identity. However, this person is not a "person with the ability to have PCOS".

Sebell · 2020-07-07T17:02:07+00:00

I googled transrights banned reddit, and came across another sub, that isn't banned (reclassified) that had that as a post. So take it with a grain of salt. It's the reason people think it was banned, not the reddit moderators explanation.

Sebell · 2020-07-07T13:34:09+00:00

Found this about it:

"Background - TransRights was started by Trump supporters as a hate sub (as evidenced by this post stickied by the mods. But obviously if you take .01 seconds to look at the page you can tell it's clearly a hate sub).

I am confident they are deliberately trying to get the sub banned so the sub name "Trans Rights" is no longer available for trans people and allies to use. And even if that wasn't the goal, the outcome would be trans people being denied a sub to promote trans rights as they see fit. The sub should be transferred to at the least a neutral third party (though that would be hard to dictate) or at least made available again."

I found "Queer Women" is being camped on by the people who run Actual Lesbians, and redirects you there. To prevent people from starting a more appropriately named sub.

Sebell · 2020-07-04T21:47:51+00:00

The Islam sub has a post up that some of the "2000" banned subs were Muslim subs that "includes a lot of subreddits that literally just posted photos of mosques, updates to prayer times and local Muslim celebrations and positive news coming from various locales."

They also claim that subreddits that promote mass killings of Muslims have been left untouched.

I found another place that says againsthatesubreddits targeted them, but the post I found there was just "yay they are banned" with no description why.

Sebell · 2020-07-04T15:24:43+00:00

I have to say - I've seen some horrible posts in non-GC subs that really scream "I'm trying to get this sub banned too".

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