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[–]8timesarrow8 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

yea i dont really give a shit about those other countries, i care about the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. and what we are seeing here is unprecedented. we are seeing a marxist facist takeover of the entire country under a Republican president.

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Just goes to show you can't keep these regressive left guys down and out by voting for an extreme opposite to them. Rather that creates an even bigger reaction. Like in an argument, if you keep calm and on the level the other person has 2 options, calm down to your level or look crazy. Luckily since this kicked off the centre and right have played it quite calm and so most people know those guys are crazy. They won't spark a revolution because they don't have enough popular support and are getting less everyday.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Trump isn't an extreme opposite of anyone. He's been incredibly Milquetoast on just about every issue.

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is why the protesters are looking bad now. He didn't rise to the bait.

But as Brutus says, he wasn't elected because that's what people expected of him.

[–]King_Brutus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Even going against things he was elected for like gun rights.

[–]Quixoticfutz 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Marxist fascist? Ahahahahhahaha wow ok, that's one way to show lack of knowledge.

[–]King_Brutus 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Are you going to explain? Or is your smug reddit-reaction enough of a comment for today?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Marxism is based in materialism and uses class-analysis. Modern cancel culture is based in ideology and individualism.

[–]VoiceOfTheMillenium 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

and what we are seeing here is unprecedented

You had your precedent during McCarthyism and 40-30 years ago as well, you tard. Hays code, do these words say something to you? The pendulum is swinging and now you are not the one holding the censorship stick. Let me play the most little fucking violin for your struggle.

[–]King_Brutus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So now it's the communist's turn? Is that what you're saying?

[–]H3v8 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe this should help the average American re-evaluate his country's foreign policy, which has driven other countries towards the direction you are facing today.

[–]Noreja 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I really like the topmost comment on the article:

"As to the ridiculous notion that Cancel Culture isn’t a problem, I am reminded of Jefferson (before he was canceled):

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

[...] The downstream effects of Cancel Culture are far more serious than its proponents, who cancel a history they never learned, can fathom."

There's a whole point to be made about the wokies acting as if it's not their moral responsibility to secure a de facto freedom of speech for their fellow citizens. What's that famous summary of Voltaire's philosophy again....?

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it - just say it somewhere else, where literally no one can hear you, and also we're gonna get you fired"?

[–]Sebell 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I have to admit - I never expected people to claim "cancel culture isn't real". You notice the less powerful people that signed that letter are facing consequences for it? People on the letter "retracting" their signatures due to harassment?

"The key elements of cancel culture, therefore, are that: the individual or group calling for the cancellation puts pressure on some third party to impose sanctions on the putative transgressor..."

... Oh come on, it's not like groups spent years pressuring Reddit to ban certain subreddits, and were celebrating when Reddit finally gave up and did it... /s

[–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have to admit - I never expected people to claim "cancel culture isn't real".

Look up a Narcissists prayer. Once you've read that one and realize that this is their standard operation procedure, then you'll be able to spot them anytime. They always start by claiming it isnt real. "Source!?", "Thats not real communism", "so-called cancel culture", etc.

[–]TruthTeller 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There very well is a Cancel Culture but the Harper's letter is a problem of a different variety. There's many issues with that letter. Here is a really good critique of the letter and what is wrong with it. My own issue is just a matter of schadenfreude; I'm loving people like JK Rowling and Chomsky getting chewed up by the monster they spent decades feeding and pampering. And all this time they thought their biggest worry was Trump and his supporters. Oh, the irony!

[–]jet199 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I hope that irony keeps you warm in the gulag.

Partisanship is one of the main reasons the woke are so powerful. They have always attacked everyone across the whole political spectrum, that isn't a new thing. Julie Bindel is pretty far left and has been cancelled for nearly 20 years. People always think they are safe and only bad people get attacked, left or right. There are many response articles to the letter literally saying that right now. But the woke will always stand up for each other no matter how bad their actions, look at Trudeau and his 100 blackface incidents. This is why they win.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm loving people like JK Rowling and Chomsky getting chewed up by the monster they spent decades feeding and pampering.

Rowling's billions can't really be cancelled. She still has the last laugh.

And all this time they thought their biggest worry was Trump and his supporters.

I mean, Trumpists are an issue with or without leftist cancel culture.

[–]bagano1 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Reminds me of the people claiming Antifa doesn't exist as an organization.

Only to have one guy come forward in the local news and admit he was a local Antifa leader. That one clearly didn't get the memo.

[–]sproketboy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They tried to cancel Steven Pinker as well.

[–]Feldheld 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I hate the term "cancel culture" and I also dont think the criticism thats publicized recently is achieving anything.

Can somebody explain to me at whom exactly this criticism is directed? Who precisely are they complaining about or complaining to? All I hear is lots of whining but it has absolutely no direction.

And you know why that is? It's because the cause of "cancel culture" isnt the mob to begin with. Both the mob and the cancel culture are the result of a greater issue: the general level of cowardice in our society. Cowards join the mob or kneel before it or opportunistically try to exploit it. All this happens when too many feel they got too much to lose to risk anything. Only the cowards enable and empower the mob and cause it to grow. And only when people start growing some balls the mob will be defeated, and very easily so, because the mob, too, is made up of cowards.

[–]King_Brutus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

People individually want to feel like they created something. In cancel culture circles they "create" the mob destruction of another individual so they will do anything and twist everything to achieve that goal.

[–]VoiceOfTheMillenium 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

cancel culture has parallels with the Chinese cultural revolution and the European witch hunts.

Or rather, with bullshit from conservative folks about "Violent" video games, DnD, "Devil's lettuce" and "Satanist music". Something that conservacucks will conveniently not mention. People that enacted this shit have no moral rights to bitch about cancel culture.

[–]Dragonerne 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

People that enacted this shit have no moral rights to bitch about cancel culture.

Who founded this? Let's see:

The Parents Music Resource Center (PMRC) was an American committee formed in 1985 with the stated goal of increasing parental control over the access of children to music deemed to have violent, drug-related or sexual themes via labeling albums with Parental Advisory stickers.
The women who founded the PMRC are Tipper Gore, wife of Senator and later Vice President Al Gore
Tipper Gore: Political party Democratic Party
Albert Arnold Gore Jr.:Political party Democratic

You can't make this shit up -- or well, I guess you can.

[–]Chipit[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

Whataboutism? Really?

How about something from this century?

[–]Nelumbo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

[–]King_Brutus 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

You're right, they should have just massacred the entire staff like Charlie Hebdo.

[–]Nelumbo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

do you seriously think charlie hebdo was massacred by the same people who are boycotting jk rowling because she said only women can menstruate

[–]King_Brutus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

No, why would anything I just said imply that?

[–]Nelumbo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

then why are you bringing up terror acts by al-qaida? chipit is obsessed with the nonsensical idea that only leftists are capable of censorship, and he asked for an example of modern right wing censorship, which I provided. I don't see how your comment about charlie hebdo is supposed to be a refutation of that. unless it was meant to be a joke.

[–]King_Brutus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

unless it was meant to be a joke.

[–]Nelumbo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

alright, it's hard to tell what is meant as a joke when there's so many genuine neo-nazis on this website.

[–]King_Brutus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Getting back to the point I will say that modern day leftist censorship is far more commonplace (twitter mobs, MSM outlets, reddit, etc etc) and SUCCESSFUL than right wing censorship if we're exclusively talking about social media "cancelling".

I hadn't even heard about the link you provided and would never have heard about it because most people don't care about christians getting upset over things unless it's the butt of a joke (see "war on Christmas"). Almost every group has principles and will act in opposition to actors who go against those principles, but in modern day there's a huge wave of censorship against the right.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Whataboutism isn't an argument. It neither addresses nor refutes the premise.

[–]Nelumbo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

then don't ask for "something from this century"

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Do you understand that the premise is "cancel culture is real, denying it is a lie" and if you wish to refute the premise, you must present arguments in favor of your position?

Shouting "Billy's mom lets him do it" isn't an argument. Do you get this, or are you deliberately arguing dishonestly?

[–]Nelumbo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I never said leftists don't get things cancelled, they do, and so do right wingers

[–]Zahn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

What are some glaring examples of right wingers getting things cancelled?

[–]Nelumbo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

[–]Zahn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You cherry picked one example? How about showing proofs of widespread cancel culture propagated by the right.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That's whataboutism. Do you know what whataboutism is?

[–]Nelumbo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

do you think right wingers are unable to cancel things?

[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Whataboutism is distracting from a topic that the speaker would rather not talk about by accusing the other side of some irrelevant offense.

The overwhelming calls for censorship today are coming from the left. Free speech is not a left-wing value. It is regarded as only something ever used by racists.

[–]King_Brutus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There is almost no modern backlash against anything you described besides the usual stance against drug use by most conservatives. And how is adding a parental advisory sticker on adult themed music in any way "cancel culture"?