Fascism is awful

Rakean93 · 2022-10-12T08:39:15+00:00

But there was for sure a scientific consensus about the micro-racialization, and saying that this was an hobby is like saying that, just because intersectionality is not part of the official political US agenda, it is just an hobby and no one cares. A lot of people cares.

There was surely a focus on eugenics.

There was surely a push for the war.

You can indeed downplay those points, and i can focus on them. I don't have any conclusive arguments, but you neither, because we can't simply factually check the Reich 50 years into the Nazi government. My points remain perfectly valid.

Rakean93 · 2022-10-11T22:28:21+00:00

I'm not trolling. There are a lot of Jews and there are a lot of non Jews. Jews are bad. Not every non Jew is good. And capitalism in my opinion - expecially global capitalism - is intrinsically bad.

Rakean93 · 2022-10-11T22:24:52+00:00

Yeah sure

Rakean93 · 2022-10-11T22:24:06+00:00

I am making assumptions and stating opinions, indeed, and my very first post was I think Italian fascism was better. I have no conclusive argument on the matter, but I shared what makes me think so, take it or leave it. Edit: I think as opposed to "I know for a matter of facts"

Rakean93 · 2022-10-11T14:57:31+00:00

1) nazi elite was clearly eager to start a big war, which was a bad idea to start with, and that's a reason of the instability of nazism. 1.5) years in power are a quantitative measure and you asked for that

2) even without taking that in account, nazism itself was heavily inclined to over-racialize any political problem. Racial distinctions were promoted even between germans at the academic level. There was a useless focus on eugenics over social and spiritual factors. Maybe Hitler himself held different ideas, but there were surely influential parts of the nazi establishment that promoted ideas of disunity among their own nation. That's an extremly unstable situation.

3) the nazis were unable to identify a common religion for their people, unlike fascism in spain, austria, italy, romania and so on, and ended up half-heartedly promoting a butchered version of the bible.

You can claim that those were minor factors and that toward the end of the war the nazis embraced a broad definition and the religious stuff wasn't important anymore. But those factor eventually would end up being very important. Except for that, however, the differences between fascism and nazism are extremly tiny and mostly related to the different level of industrialization of both countries. Fascism, as political, social and spiritual system, was absolutely sustainable in my opinion. Nazism, on the other hand, not so much. For how long the germans would have accepted to be categorized as hierachically distinct races?

Rakean93 · 2022-10-11T13:50:43+00:00

The argument is that Italian fascism is better because that wasn't as unstable as Nazism. You can't just blame everything on the Jews. The war was obviously pushed by England, but you can't say that Hitler didn't have a big deal in make this happen.

Rakean93 · 2022-10-11T13:24:33+00:00

just to add to the context, there was a fascist canchellor in Austria and he was kileld by the nazis, so that Italy was forced to switch alliance with the nazis. Now, if i am to choose between nazism and liberalism i will obviusly choose nazism, but there was a very clear path toward a fascist block in Europe that was forcefully disrupted by the nazis.

Rakean93 · 2022-10-11T13:19:18+00:00

Fascism lasted 20 years without problems and would have lasted way longer if not for Hitler, nazism lasted barely 8 years and was a total disaster.

Rakean93 · 2022-10-11T12:50:39+00:00

The mainstream among the racist scientists at the time was that there were at least 3 races amongst Italians, and that the better one was the Nordic. Mussolini rightly rejected this ridiculous claim made by the Nordicists, and when he was forced to adopt the stupid racial nazi legislation went ahead claiming that all the Italians were Aryans, basically negating the retarded nordicist claim.

Rakean93 · 2022-10-11T12:24:13+00:00

Italian fascism is indeed different from national socialism. And I think it's better. But wathever, both are gone for good.

Btw I consider myself more "leftist" than "rightist". It's very clear that most of the problems we face are caused by capitalism, and i honestly don't think that even without Jews the capitalism would work better. One can argue about capitalism being an expression of the Jewish spirituality and I think that's fair, but Jeff Bezos is my enemy more than any Jew out there, so...

Rakean93 · 2022-10-08T19:02:18+00:00

I don't want to do anything because I'm not American and I don't project my will on foreigners. I only want America out of Europe. What America could do in regards of nationalism is, at the end of the day, a matter of importance only for the American people.

Rakean93 · 2022-10-08T19:00:56+00:00

I support American's partition in nation states. However I think that could be another solution. Partition is obviously going to be subversive from the perspective of the actual American state.

Rakean93 · 2022-10-08T18:03:32+00:00

It's hard for me to to frame nationalism in America because America is not a nation and any kind of nationalism is intrinsically subversive - very much like in Russia, so to speak. Usually the alt right speaks about white nationalism, but that's implicitly a separatist project, so it's anti-american or at least un-american. If I was to fix America as it is I would go for an Imperial kind of state, where the task of the government is to try to manage the contradictory requests of the various groups. Such a government can't be democratic however, because in a democratic framework you only get the various national and identitarian groups competing for the limited resources of the state. Christian nationalism however is the most solid proposal for an American nationalism, because Christianity is truly the only common ground for the vast majority of the country. It should not be a white nationalist movement however, it should aim to create an American race, which implies race mixing to a certain extent. Not something the alt right would gladly accept. But an ethnos - a nation - must be from a common ancestry.

Rakean93 · 2022-10-07T22:17:45+00:00

So, what actually happens in Lula wins?

Rakean93 · 2022-10-07T11:27:57+00:00

Thanks!

Rakean93 · 2022-10-07T09:52:36+00:00

From the outside Danes seems to be the only functioning Nordics honestly, the left is portrayed as anti immigration and that means, on bright side, nothing terrible is going to happen, but on the other hand there's little space for the right to grow - which may even be a good thing, since a lot of right is just neoliberism.

So, on to my questions: what are the stakes in that elections? There are cultural key points? International key points? What is people actually voting for?

Rakean93 · 2022-10-05T10:10:58+00:00

yeah. Also we should take notes from the Russians, not becaming russian fangirls just for the sake of that. There is an interesting interview with Dugin from the start of the war where Dugin said "well, now we are back to a multipolar world. That's the time where Europe can return to be a big global player. You can now say to america 'you betrayed us, letting us face thos russian barbarians, so now we need to protect ourselves. We need and army, and we need the ability to effectively use it' ". I think that's the deal we should aim for.

Rakean93 · 2022-10-05T09:36:57+00:00

Honestly this whole Ukrainian war is not a top issue right now. Nothing is going to significantly change. America rallied his partners, Russia is doing his russian thing, and that's that. In the winter more russian troops will be available and land will be regained, but the west will give more weapon to Ukraine and the show will keep going. At the end Putin will win because Putin has nukes while Ukraine doesn't, so honestly... Wathever. Good for the Russian I think, but we should focus on more compelling matters.

Rakean93 · 2022-10-03T22:32:55+00:00

Well, from a debate perspective, I think that ethnic loyalty is an important value and as such I wouldn't support not sticking to that principle.

By displaying ethnic unloyalty you prove yourself as an evil person and, as such, incapable of holding the moral high ground. you are also displaying pathological perversion in the form of ethnomasochism, so I think that the moral option here would be to prevent you from acting in such way.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-27T19:25:51+00:00

This was posted a while ago - also the white nationalist movement is informal and factually highly inclusive.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-26T18:16:28+00:00

No, the financial chil-bonus is for everyone, not just for those who decide to not get the abortion. That's just to boost natality overall. They are trying to find other means to prevent abortions, I'm not aware of what they plan to do about that.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-26T17:12:01+00:00

To be fair, Mussolini just putted up a parade. My great-grandfathers partecipated to the march and it was just a matter of spending two days on a train and entering in Rome in time to get popular acclamation from the people, since the King decided to let Mussolini form a government.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-26T12:13:21+00:00

Well Italy has a quite strict citizenship law (which is mostly acquired by blood), and the constitution already recognise the traditional family as a cornerstone of the society - the constitution was made mostly by Catholics anyway. There are still things to fix obviously but those are just too much hardcore for the present government.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-26T12:07:29+00:00

Di Maio is over, maybe he will join PD. He wasn't able to get past 1-2%. The majority of the m5s voters just went along with the main party.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-26T10:06:59+00:00

They won't do radical shit, let's be honest. They are going to buy us time by promoting natality and blocking immigrants while also giving a favourable political landscape for the cultural action, but that's that.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-26T09:51:59+00:00

Yeah, that's true.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-26T09:51:17+00:00

200€ is a monthly amount, I forgot that part. I mean it's not bad, 200€/m is def enough to raise a children as long as school and healthcare are covered by the state.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-26T09:41:45+00:00

What will the government actually look like? FdI coalitions with who exactly?

FDI formed a coalition with FI and league. it's hard to explain because Italy chanrs the electoral laws every few years; this time coalitions had to be formed before the elections because a lot of seats were uninominal - that means that there was a single candidate to be elected. So let's say that you have a coalition which gets 30% of the votes, and two indipendet parties each one with 20% of the votes - the coalition with 30% still gets elected. That's how the right ended up with a supermajority. The left can't even blame because this reform was created by them.

FDI was expected to have less votes than league+FI combined. They instead got barely twice the vote of the "junior members" combined. So we can expect that FDI will express most of the government.

What does the opposition look like, presumably with the PD being at the head of it?

Basically m5s is anti-nato and PD is pro NATO, plus those two combined got less than 150 seats, while the right wing coalition has ~260 seats. They are not really in the position of doing anything

The other big question is how stable this government would be? For example, is there any chance of enough parties quitting government and moving into opposition in order to collapse the government and lead to another election?

Italian governments are unstable by design. I expect this government to last maybe 3 years. But the allies will withdraw their support only if they find out that they will be able to get better results in some early elections.

Also, that scumbag of a President can't do anything such as annul the results, right?

So that's kinda funny. When the monarchy was abolished the president got most of the power of the king. Theoretically he can just form a government with the left. He can even form a government with random people from the streets. But such a government wouldn't be able to pass any law because they need the votes of the two chambers, so sheninegans are highly unlikely. Furthermore FDI was by far the most voted party in the army, so...

Rakean93 · 2022-09-26T09:22:35+00:00

No, because m5s is pro gay and pro migrants, while FI is okay to ban gender shit and deploy the army to block immigrants as long as they can get lower taxes. Unfortunately it was a matter of choosing the lesser evil - plus Berlusconi is the one that promoted the early career of Giorgia Meloni when her party was 1%, so maybe there was a personal dimension involved.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-26T09:18:58+00:00

pro-social and family-orientated policies; ending of immigration and increasing blocking migrant ships, repatriation

Those two are quite likely. FDI campaigned on a proposal of financial support for Italian families with a fixed amount on money for every children until they are 18, plus school and health services obviously. They are also going to try to reduce the number of abortions giving financial incentives to the families that decide to keep the children. Overall they said that they want to follow the Orban's model.

To be more specific, they are going to give 200€ for every child under 18 for the lower income brackets.

On the immigration side, they said that they are going to deploy the navy to stop immigrants. This was already done in the last decade so it's not something extremely unlikely.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-26T08:55:35+00:00

Follow up: the abstention rate was extremely high, which is probably linked to the fact that the right was projected to win hard no matter what.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-25T19:32:01+00:00

True

Rakean93 · 2022-09-25T11:47:24+00:00

I don't agree. I personally support Russia, but it's better for Europe to gain power as a third pole between Russia and America.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-23T20:59:59+00:00

Take your meds plz it's dangerous out there

Rakean93 · 2022-09-23T16:15:36+00:00

rabid homophobe

I don't who he is but I like that guy

Rakean93 · 2022-09-21T14:55:48+00:00

Putin doesn't want to hand all the power to the military, which is what would likely happen in the case of a full mobilitization. Look at the dynamics of the communist revolution.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-21T14:53:52+00:00

The very existence of nukes imply the fact that they will be used - the only question is "when".

Ruling something out just let you unprepared when when that happens.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-21T10:49:07+00:00

That's very much true

Rakean93 · 2022-09-19T17:18:21+00:00

I'm a great fan of Anthony Smith and I really appreciate his definition of ethnic group, but that doesn't change the fact that there wasn't a political stance named nationalism until 1800s, and that at first instance it was a movement against the multi-national European Kingdoms and Empires

Rakean93 · 2022-09-18T22:32:10+00:00

It's a pretty reasonable stance since nationalism is an emergent ideology sprung after the French Revolution. Now it's extremely ingrained in the western identity but it was, in first instance, a movement against the kings and the ancient regime. And dugin takes proud in refuting everything modern.

The very same thing, just to be clear, is the basis of his critique to the idea of white race.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-12T22:38:03+00:00

They don't allow that sort of statistics so we have to guess.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-12T08:46:27+00:00

Yeah, that's a very real possibility.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-12T08:45:56+00:00

I don't know what is going on in Croatia - however in most of Europe there is s clear shift toward what we could call cultural right. This won't produce immediate effects. What will happen is that new set of ideas will enter the public discourse, allowing the production of a different kind of culture, which in return will be able to identify the objectives for the political class. This happened in the west from the 50s to until now, with gay marriage only becoming a thing in the late 2010s.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-11T22:15:52+00:00

Liberal democracy is surely in decline across the world and in America/Europe too. The question is what is about about to come, and how.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-11T21:47:51+00:00

In democracy changes happen gradually, bit they happen (as we can clearly see comparing the 50s to now). I think that gradual radicalisation is a good thing. Eventually they can form a critical mass and a cultural shift that, anyway, is actually happening.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-11T18:38:37+00:00

Sweden is a tiny country and not that Influential, but it's an extremely good sign. Germany is last major EU country that doesn't have an established radicalized right, basically everywhere else the right parties are decently hardcore. We can hope that this will lead to an awakening of the nords in general (even though we just need Germany).

Rakean93 · 2022-09-10T19:50:38+00:00

I don't think that is raising gayness per se, is raising the identification in homosexual behaviour and the correlated practice.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-10T17:31:18+00:00

For example, it's a fact that that 20% of Gen Z now identifies as some form of homosexual. The highest of any other group.

That's not surprising since quite a few men can fuck with males if they really want to fuck (expecially with feminine-presenting male), and basically every woman in the world is actually bisexual/pansexual.

That's not to understimate the problem, which exists in the form of the promotion of recreational sex as opposed to reproductive one and absence of gender roles. That's just to point out that the mere sexuality thing was to be expected.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-10T17:18:47+00:00

Russia is factually more similar to an elective monarchy than a parliamentary Republic. With that in mind you should note that a war event is incredibly risky for such type of a government, which is probably the most unstable. I am not sure that Putin could afford a full blown war.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-09T21:13:12+00:00

"Iustus Est Necare Rex Impius" But I don't think it's up to us to judge those who held traditional authority. That's our own hubris, and if we do so, what's to the difference between us and those reject entirely the traditions? We must accept the authority even when we deem the individual unworthy.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-09T18:14:39+00:00

Rich people are, as for now, a force of subversion. The capitalist system itself makes necessary for them being subversive, because the state exist both in order to protect and to limitate them. They always try to get rid of limitations - which means uncontrolled immigration, atomism, consumerism and so on. On the other side this system can't sustain forever in that form. It will be either some kind of socialism, with the state as ultimate master of economy, or the end of the modern state. If in the future they will start to talk about privatising parts of the army, you will know for sure that the modern state won't survive. At the point, maybe a new feudalism will fix the morality of the rich people.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-09T15:03:48+00:00

Generally speaking i'm on board with divine right monarchies, expecially for the germans, because that's a truly tradition of theirs

Rakean93 · 2022-09-09T12:11:14+00:00

Australia has s constitution??

Rakean93 · 2022-09-05T20:20:26+00:00

At least a relatively small minority can try to get relevant inside the main party and actually rule the country.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-05T11:58:41+00:00

how does it work in America for smaller parties? i know that run for the federal congress/senate is quite a task, but there's room for some serious political action at the states level? Like, there are multiple parties running for officies?

Rakean93 · 2022-09-04T11:09:22+00:00

I can't understand why the black race is willing to humiliate itself by proclaming that tyhey absolutely need to be integrated in white society. They should have asked for a black state in the USA.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-04T11:05:56+00:00

I personally crusaded against the whole thing in my circles, but i may have a different angle. I take for a fact that any americand production will need to have forced niggers and faggots because America have niggers and somehow faggots managed to hijack themselves into the slavery-master narrative. I mean, it is what it is.

But LOTR is not just a random fantasy you can butcher and call it a day. It's not like the wheel of times - good books, but anyway just the product of an american mormon that really liked strong gender roles and polygamy. LOTR is a european and catholic mythology explicitly crafted in order to be that. Changing elements is changing the symbolic value, and thus the religious values. It's straight up blasphemous. Expecially when it comes to the Simarillion, which is the most theological and metaphysical book.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-03T12:15:51+00:00

Only one but his family converted to Catholicism during the early days of fascism and they are still Catholics. I generally met just a few Jews in all my life and have mixed feelings. A Jew professor in my university who was extremely based despite being Jew, extremely anti immigration and anti feminism. And a couple of literal bugmen of french-italian Jews that I intensely hated.

Rakean93 · 2022-08-27T12:32:19+00:00

Yeah, I know. I would support a Mediterranean superstate honestly, but that won't be the case. They want gas and oil this time.

Rakean93 · 2022-08-23T22:31:51+00:00

Under 85% they are literally unable to work?

Rakean93 · 2022-08-23T09:13:34+00:00

It should be an Arabic proverb

Rakean93 · 2022-08-22T23:53:15+00:00

on the corpses of lions celebrate the dogs, believing they have won. but lions remain lions and dogs remain dogs

Rakean93 · 2022-08-21T14:08:40+00:00

No, and no much libertarians here

Rakean93 · 2022-08-20T16:39:17+00:00

In the natural order, labour is never looked upon as burdensome and is embraced as a necessity and delighted in.

We are speaking about anarcho-primitivism here? That's the plan?

Rakean93 · 2022-08-20T09:02:48+00:00

Yeah but why duty and responsibility should be compelling without an higher principles? You can say "well, for ME they are compelling because I don't like the other options", and that's just another offering in the vast range of ways of life offered by the liberal society. But we are speaking about politics, not about personal lifestyles.

Rakean93 · 2022-08-20T08:46:56+00:00

Lutheranism is mostly based on the new testament so it's not Jewish but rejects the hierarchy.

Rakean93 · 2022-08-19T17:28:09+00:00

I know that you are Protestant, I know that you think to have all the reasons to stay protestant and i actually don't even think you should just turn Catholic, because as far as I understand you are from s country of the reformation and as a general rule I don't like people who betray their traditions.

However this piece is after he annuciated that the Jews were surely going to turn protestants now that he showed the true religion to the world. Since the Jews weren't interested he decided to hate on them pretty hard. The covenant emphasis in Calvinism and the rejection of the hierarchy still stands.

Rakean93 · 2022-08-19T15:33:25+00:00

The wisdom of Nature is based on investigation and experience, I know what to believe from repeated experience, the same principle by which I know multiculturalism is hell and most the things you listed are not things to want.

The entire point of relativism was that we eventually discovered that not everyone was living accordingly to the same standards we regarded as naturals. So you either says that this is irrelevant because we order our lives accordingly to superior principles which are not to be discussed, or you end up with trans and race mixing.

Rakean93 · 2022-08-19T15:29:58+00:00

I study the reformation for living, so probably I know early Protestantism better than Catholicism itself. Protestantism is Jewish because of the emphasis on the covenant, which admittedly wasn't in Luther but rather in Calvin. Luther however is extremely unclear on a lot of stuff.

Rakean93 · 2022-08-19T14:53:55+00:00

I agree with the fact that religious infighting is stupid, even if given that people are born inside traditions, they are not supposed to question them. That's the whole point of the tradition, it's bigger than you and you are required to just accept it. But wathever. Truly pagans will at least have a spirituality.

Also, I don't subscribe with the premise that you can't be non-religious and live by honor and virtue. Most religious people don't either, so again, why drive the wedge?

I don't agree with that for the simple fact that it's impossible to define in an incontrovertible way "virtue and honor" without resorting to some kind of spirituality. So yeah there can be honourable atheists, that's just because they accept to live like if they were religious without any real reason.

Rakean93 · 2022-08-19T14:23:28+00:00

Protestantism is a fake and Jew religion. About the rest, makes little sense.

There are plenty of people doing everything they want, that's the point of liberalism. Do you want party and drugs? Go on. Want big money? Sure, work as tech eng. Do you want to change sex and fuck with men? No problems. You're even allowed to have a family if for some reason you prefer that to party and drugs - even if doesn't really makes sense, because if there's anything except from the material life, you only have the present in which you live, and sniffing blow is way better than dealing with a kid, but wathever. You want to exercise power? Just get into politics with the democratic party. You can hate niggers and trans, you can just lie to people. So honestly, given the absence of an afterlife, a God, a superpersonal principle, what's really keeping you from living you best purely materialist life, except from yourself and your own limitations?

Of course that doesn't apply if you believe in spirituality. You are then required to conform to higher principles, which change everything. But otherwise we are just speaking of people unable to get rich enough to fulfill their desires and now blames niggers and Jews for their own failures, not differently from the niggers that hates on white people for being poor.

Rakean93 · 2022-08-19T12:09:32+00:00

If the religion isn't a thing, what stops you from get an high paid job and just live the most materialist life you can get? Drugs and sex are actually fun by their own. I honestly don't get how one can be nationalist and not religious, liberalism is the best system if you accept atheism.

Rakean93 · 2022-08-16T08:53:35+00:00

Blacks and brown never developed the idea of personal liberty and free market.

Rakean93 · 2022-08-15T20:51:56+00:00

Who knows? They are very quiet right now. But honestly I don't think they are going to actually win that hard, so it's just talking.

Rakean93 · 2022-08-15T13:43:23+00:00

Whites being committed to fairness is a biased take. Everyone is, generally speaking, committed to something that they regard as right, even the neoliberals so to speak - they don't think to be evil. Obviously what's right differs between different cultures and it happened that the whites developed over the last 3 centuries a fixation on personal liberty, which can lead to what's called "fairness" in the sense that as society we tend to remove the obstacles to the exercise of such liberty - the so called rule of law. That's not fair for, let's says, the Muslim, which consider highly unfair the fact that people are allowed to live outside the Sharia law.

About the conquering drive, that's more realistic but also highly dependent on a series of factors. Mongols are highly aggressive and conquer-minded, as well as Persians; the same was true for some native American cultures. Chinese people on the other hand basically never engaged in external imperialism and the same is true for the Africans. However I doubt that the whites as a race are particularly conquer-minded. I think that it was mostly a result of several factors: Europe being culturally more or less unified under Christianity but politically divided promoted a fierce competition for centuries, and most of the colonies were indeed taken in order to get a competitive advantage in Europe. Christianity also, as much as Islam, is an universalistic religion and justify the conquest of non-christian people for the purpose of conversion. Islam and Christianity, as a fact, are the most aggressive religion on the earth (be aware of the fact that the decolonisation process started alongside tge secularisation of the West). Lastly there's the Roman empire example, which is more or less the foundational myth of the whites, that promotes the idea that is a duty to expand the civilization and that conquering people is a good way to do so.

All in all the whites are conquer-minded and fair as a result of their history, which could in turn be the result of their particular racial make up, bit honestly who knows? And why should it matters?

Ps Spencer is retarded.

Rakean93 · 2022-08-15T09:09:21+00:00

As long as I know there are no prominent Jews in Italian politics. Also Letta was in the Christian Democracy before the '90s so it seems unlikely.

Rakean93 · 2022-08-14T23:09:57+00:00

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/italys-letta-italian-right-wing-threatens-europe-democracy/2022/08/13/2aa2b13e-1b07-11ed-b998-b2ab68f58468_story.html this is the context btw

Rakean93 · 2022-08-14T20:03:12+00:00

They want to change the constitution in order to make the presidential election direct, basically like France. The rationale behind is that the left was unable to win the popular vote in the last 30 years and they only get to the government trought last minute coalitions or with unelected technical governments, so they think this is going to beneficial for the right. It's a kinda smart move but nothing particularly revolutionary by itself. The left however is absolutely scared because, well, they were unable to win the popular vote in the last 30 years and it doesn't seem like they will be able to do so in the near future.

Rakean93 · 2022-08-14T19:34:34+00:00

Btw the article lacks of context. I said previously that the right is scared because the EU could interfere with the elections. We are waiting for 200 billions and they will surely try to use the money as leverage to increase the left consensus. This pledge of allegiance is intended to reassure the people that they are going to get the cash, basically. About the NATO, Meloni is trying to use this war to justify an increased military spending aimed towards a bigger role of Italy in the Mediterranean. I'm not making up that stuff, she explicitly said that a month ago during the Milanese convection. Obviously still, there won't be anything major coming up - except for the nigger problem, where they want to put up a militarized blockade on the sea, and the gender problem, where they want to provide (mostly economical) support for traditional family and some hardcore stuff.

What the article is not saying, but is also very important, is that not only the right is going to win, but thanks to some ridiculous stuff the left did in the last weeks, the right is also projected to get 90% of the uninominal electoral colleges, which would translate in a parliamentarian majority able to change the constitution without a referendum. So they are trying to do their best to avoid foreign interference.

Rakean93 · 2022-08-14T19:13:55+00:00

This

Rakean93 · 2022-08-14T14:51:10+00:00

It's difficult for me to consider a leak what is openly spoke about since the start of the year...

Rakean93 · 2022-08-13T10:43:58+00:00

https://youtu.be/twf0jcvIAfY At first I thought it was ironic, but our media says it's legit and from the Russian embassy

Rakean93 · 2022-08-10T14:48:29+00:00

They're making ads to get European settlers so it's likely yes

Rakean93 · 2022-08-10T11:07:33+00:00

I couldn't care less about climate change. Worst scenario, we'll enjoy farming in the Siberian Aryan motherland

Rakean93 · 2022-08-05T13:12:22+00:00

Well, obviously, the XII constitutional disposition: "it is forbidden, under any guise, the reformation of the disbanded national fascist party"

Rakean93 · 2022-08-04T11:04:02+00:00

I don't think they will save us, but rather that they will try to fight over geopolitical and economical spaces in order to further extend the reach of their own power. This practically means creating a separation between America and Europe. What I was trying to say is that if the Chinese aren't willing to fight for Taiwan, it's very unlikely that they will go for a confrontation against America over Europe. If that's the case a bipolar order is about to return, where Europe is the official feud of America, Russia is the official feud of China and Africa and South America is where they will try to get as much advantage as possible.

Rakean93 · 2022-08-03T13:46:01+00:00

I don't think is going to happen anyway. Communism, as much as fascism in his historical form, is a spent force. We need - and must - build up on more radical propositions, meaning that we must return to the roots of our claims and to build from there. Nationalism, traditionalism, (non marxist) socialism, so to speak. But in everyday life the people who are heavily involved in radical politics are going to prefer to call themselves with names like fascist and communist just because those are historically successful attempts and are highly regarded as such.

Rakean93 · 2022-08-03T13:34:21+00:00

I mean, we all know it's not a big deal by itself. A woman landed on Taiwan - that's literally it. I'm with you with that. But the Chinese did threaten reaction, and I think at least something symbolic should have happened.

Rakean93 · 2022-08-03T13:29:11+00:00

Yeah that's exactly my point of view. They could have downplayed this from the beginning saying "very rude but not much a big deal" or, on the other side, at least try to make some noise, like asking the US plane to leave the Chinese airspace. Threatening a reaction and doing actually nothing is a sign of weakness.

Rakean93 · 2022-08-02T10:57:02+00:00

The party has an open tradition linked directly to the national fascist party. Most of his active base is explicitely fascist. Also they support protectionism and welfare state, whihc is the opposite of neoliberalism. Meloni is indeed extremly pro-nato and probably a good chunck of the rest of the party but eh, whatever. It's not like italy can actually exit from NATO tomorrow - except from the economic consequences, we don't have the military power to provide our own defense. So for now i'm fine if i will get a bigger army.

also, my expectations from politics in general are extremly low, so in my opinion FdI is worth even they just manage to not change the citizienship law and to reduce immigration.

Rakean93 · 2022-08-02T10:47:19+00:00

Possibly. on the "street" level there are both cultural leftish so called "communists", which are in fact just social liberals, and what i tend to consider true communists, like the ones from the actual communist party and the good guys of Patria Socialista (Socialist Fatherland). They are kinda trying to make some overture to the right wing "street" base like, on individual level, but nothing official. The ones i met i reguarded them as highly compatible with my belief system and my goals, and i assume that they liked me also since we're still in contact. But they don't have a big party to advance their platform, so we're still better with FdI for the times being. At least we will get bigger army and less immigrants.

Rakean93 · 2022-08-02T10:31:46+00:00

https://www.iltempo.it/politica/2022/08/01/news/elezioni-politiche-2022-marco-rizzo-attacca-giorgia-meloni-sovranismo-cartone-mario-draghi-32614427/

What happened is basically that the Italian communists turned heavily nationalists, putting themselves to the right of FdI, which is widely recognized as a fascist party (I'm not taking in account the American left wing definition of fascism because it's totally meaningless).

So I agree with you, communism is not anti white. But that's because historical happenings removed the anti-traditional and anti-national elements of the communism, leaving a core of economics and politics which merges pretty well with ethnonationalism

Edit: also fascism was from in his inception anti-capitalist and basically socialist, read http://bibliotecafascista.blogspot.com/2012/03/the-manifesto-of-verona-1943.html?m=1 (unfortunately, not English wiki page for this one, there's the Italian version thought)

Rakean93 · 2022-08-01T09:04:36+00:00

I am conflicted about the opportunity of doing anything. Both the mainstream politicians and the podcaster/4.0 people are heavily pointing out the very obvious link FDI-fascism. So the question is: how much the electorate is self conscious about that fact? How much they are willing to go along with those lines?

The most important grassroot groups are going to make something for sure, exactly as they do every single time. It is kinda expected from both the police and the population and usually would not get massive coverage, but this time it will be used to undermine FDI. Plus, the so called Area, the network of nationalists, traditionalists and fascists, is actually broken along the lines of the Ukrainian conflict. Again, it's kinda a meme to have 2 fascists and three different opinions, but movimento nazionale (ex forza nuova, which was dismantled the last year but was immediately reformed because no one get arrested) is heavily pro Russia, while CasaPound, which is the largest explicitly fascists group (and arguably the biggest militant group at all across the political spectrum) is pro Ukraine. FdI itself is pro Ukraine while the more fascist inclined group inside of the party, casaggí, is mildly pro Russia, and lately resorted the collaboration with some right wing newspapers like la verità, which are extremely critical about the American involvement in the conflict. Then you have minor groups like the Veneto fronte skinhead, the Roman Raido etc. It would be extremely hard to coordinate everyone, bit i don't know what's the plan.

The most likely outcome is that everyone is going to stay in his city and acting accordingly to the numbers he can deploy. Which means that that the big thing will be the roman rally of CPI, which is kinda a pariah for the Ukrainian thing and is going to be pretty tame because the leadership doesn't want to piss off the police. Probably something will be held in a more private form in Florence and Verona by the respective groups. FDI is going to beg everyone to be quiet in order to avoid bad optics, thought.

Rakean93 · 2022-07-28T09:14:07+00:00

Because the french doesn't have American bases on the national soil. The NATO issue, in the ex-Axis countries, is not up to the nations to decide about.

Rakean93 · 2022-07-26T09:58:18+00:00

Meloni is indeed pro-nato (not the party). There are 90 American nukes in Italy, being anti-nato is not a serious option for the head of the party. And we have no nukes on our own. Also distancing from randos who commit crimes is pretty mandatory if you actually want the power.

What the party actually has is a solid national-conservative stance, an ethnonationalist ethos when it comes to immigration and citizenship laws, and an explicitly fascist militant base from where they are eventually going to get people for the elections.

The party won't make the revolution. Hopes must be kept low. What the party is going to do is blocking immigration and gay laws, try to get a more prominent role in the Mediterranean, rump up the military budget. And hopefully it will change a little bit the public narrative, which is extremely important.

Rakean93 · 2022-07-24T08:51:06+00:00

He is incredibly right. That's an actual strategy I could fight for.

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