Christian Nationalism vs Pagan Nationalism: There's Both Conflict & Common Ground.

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[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I agree with the fact that religious infighting is stupid, even if given that people are born inside traditions, they are not supposed to question them. That's the whole point of the tradition, it's bigger than you and you are required to just accept it. But wathever. Truly pagans will at least have a spirituality.

Also, I don't subscribe with the premise that you can't be non-religious and live by honor and virtue. Most religious people don't either, so again, why drive the wedge?

I don't agree with that for the simple fact that it's impossible to define in an incontrovertible way "virtue and honor" without resorting to some kind of spirituality. So yeah there can be honourable atheists, that's just because they accept to live like if they were religious without any real reason.

[–]NeoRail 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't agree with that for the simple fact that it's impossible to define in an incontrovertible way "virtue and honor" without resorting to some kind of spirituality. So yeah there can be honourable atheists, that's just because they accept to live like if they were religious without any real reason.

I think it is inborn for some people. To put it another way, it is possible for someone to reject religion "ideologically", but still conceive of his self and his personality in an integral way that encompasses not only the material self, but also the spiritual self and higher principles. Honour and virtue are valued not because of this or that reason, but because of a given nature and an affinity for those things. The danger in these cases is the possibility of eventually adopting ideological materialism and being affected by that outlook in the long term.