Italian election thread

Rakean93 · 2021-08-15T16:17:49+00:00

Strictly speaking, to win the culture war we need intellectuals in tenured academic positions and in middle school. My hope is that we will be able to achieve at least a part of that during the next government, which is very likely to be shared between BoI and Lega (since 99% of our universities are public, it's not unlikely that they promote people of the ruling party). But yes, it was a very positive development. Not that much for BoI itself, which is good but still very "conservative" in the pejorative meaning, but because the political discourse is much more welcoming for identitarian ideas.

Edit: what really impressed me is that, while a few years ago nationalism was a semi-taboo, nowadays you are able to find people expressing very nationalist ideas basically everywhere: in the shops, in the bars, even in the geek community, which used to be very left leaning.

Rakean93 · 2022-04-14T18:43:06+00:00

If I have to choose between negrolatry tranny children imperialism and russian Imperialism, I'm ok with the Russian one.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-23T20:59:59+00:00

Take your meds plz it's dangerous out there

Rakean93 · 2022-01-14T20:28:36+00:00

yeah, tons of dark skinned prominent civilizations, like libyans, indians, aztec and so on. I could consider the argument about the center and south africans beeing particularly incapable of developing any meaningful civilization, but at this point we should take also in account that the most northern europeans happily lived in primitive tribalistic civilizations until Charlemagne showed up slaughtering saxons until they were enough christianized.

On a personal note, i think that you are a strange kind of white supremacist from the '50, but that doesn't really makes sense right now. Whites (anglos) DO have the global supremacy, it's just degenerate and anti-ethnic. Common knowledge today is that you can't really compare white, blacks, yellows and any other funny color-race around, so anyone should be able to have his ethnic nation-state and be happy by himself.

Rakean93 · 2021-08-15T16:03:56+00:00

Godspeed to them. Islam is our eternal enemy, but also the rightful ethno-religion of middle-est / north Africa. They ultimately fought the rightful battle and will be rewarded by God.

Rakean93 · 2022-04-18T22:26:26+00:00

We know for a fact that zelensky is about to destroy Moscow and proceed to the total eradication of the Russian scum. He's able to carry on such task thanks to the genetically engineered space marines he crafted straight out of his own superhuman DNA. Then he will reign forever as the immortal emperor of the Aryan empire.

Rakean93 · 2021-08-16T10:49:39+00:00

I find your commitment to establishing a debate commendable, but specifically you have taken refuge in formulas of circular reasoning that cannot be falsified. Given your definition, anyone who is a fascist ipso facto ceases to be an intellectual, and fascism itself rejects intellectuals, and therefore you conclude that fascist intellectuals cannot exist despite the fact that they existed and still exist. I would have assumed that such an acute person as you would not be fooled by such a blatant logical fallacy. Moreover, I myself am an academic researcher, which I suppose puts me in the bizarre condition of not existing, because i'm also an identitarian.

Rakean93 · 2022-05-20T13:42:01+00:00

I expecially liked the post where the Pope is said to have blessed the use of the n-word. Apparently bots are extremely racist. That's my favourite Reddit now, thanks.

Rakean93 · 2022-04-14T19:27:48+00:00

Between white countries, you obviusly side with the one which you embrace the values. And i for sure don't embrace the american values.

Rakean93 · 2021-08-15T17:02:22+00:00

Yups. Edit: i'm also a long-time militant of the BoI.

Rakean93 · 2022-06-03T19:20:58+00:00

No but it will be funny

Rakean93 · 2022-04-17T16:49:55+00:00

he is right. There are basically no examples where changes were driven by the majority. Obviusly, you need a substantial and dedicated minority. But for examples, bolshevism won because a minority of the oeple of st. petersburg were willing to support Lenin. probably it wasn't eveen close to the 1% o fthe total population. in 1930, when the fascist party was well established as the only political force in Italy, his membership wasn't more than 10 million, on a poulation of 40 millions (obviusly prior to the march on Rome there were evn less fascists). The american revolution was made by a tiny group of people, and the French revolution as well was the result of a fraction of the population of Paris willing to support the revolutionary government. So yeah, in most cases, you just need and organized minority at the center of the events.

Rakean93 · 2022-08-22T23:53:15+00:00

on the corpses of lions celebrate the dogs, believing they have won. but lions remain lions and dogs remain dogs

Rakean93 · 2022-08-15T13:43:23+00:00

Whites being committed to fairness is a biased take. Everyone is, generally speaking, committed to something that they regard as right, even the neoliberals so to speak - they don't think to be evil. Obviously what's right differs between different cultures and it happened that the whites developed over the last 3 centuries a fixation on personal liberty, which can lead to what's called "fairness" in the sense that as society we tend to remove the obstacles to the exercise of such liberty - the so called rule of law. That's not fair for, let's says, the Muslim, which consider highly unfair the fact that people are allowed to live outside the Sharia law.

About the conquering drive, that's more realistic but also highly dependent on a series of factors. Mongols are highly aggressive and conquer-minded, as well as Persians; the same was true for some native American cultures. Chinese people on the other hand basically never engaged in external imperialism and the same is true for the Africans. However I doubt that the whites as a race are particularly conquer-minded. I think that it was mostly a result of several factors: Europe being culturally more or less unified under Christianity but politically divided promoted a fierce competition for centuries, and most of the colonies were indeed taken in order to get a competitive advantage in Europe. Christianity also, as much as Islam, is an universalistic religion and justify the conquest of non-christian people for the purpose of conversion. Islam and Christianity, as a fact, are the most aggressive religion on the earth (be aware of the fact that the decolonisation process started alongside tge secularisation of the West). Lastly there's the Roman empire example, which is more or less the foundational myth of the whites, that promotes the idea that is a duty to expand the civilization and that conquering people is a good way to do so.

All in all the whites are conquer-minded and fair as a result of their history, which could in turn be the result of their particular racial make up, bit honestly who knows? And why should it matters?

Ps Spencer is retarded.

Rakean93 · 2022-01-15T16:21:54+00:00

1- solar spirituality / masculinity and stoicism / cultur war 2- ethnic cohesion / ethnic preservation 3- nation-based socialism

I don't really have anything those 3 points, but they are very big so I guess it's more than enough for this life

Rakean93 · 2021-08-16T11:13:51+00:00

last month I had to publish an article I've been working on since last December about the Counter-Reformation. The article underwent a preliminary censorship in which I was forced to remove all definite articles, which in my language are gendered. Subsequently I presented the work at a conference, after which I was asked to eliminate all references to a possible anti-imperialist role played by the very first Roman inquisition during the affirmation of Spanish hegemony. Only at this point was the article accepted. I doubt that an Identitarian state would impose greater constraints on my freedom of scientific research.

Edit: i just read that you said "i think we don't want to talk about ourselves". Honestly i'm not that much concerned, my political affiliation is not illegal nor obscure. In any case, returning to general arguments: the absolute majority of Italian intellectuals, even anti-fascists, continued their activity normally during fascism. Benedetto Croce was even allowed to become the international voice of anti-fascism. The only one who perhaps suffered unfair treatment was Gramsci, who was imprisoned, although the Duce personally ensured that he was treated with every respect. But Gramsci was virulently opposed to the regime, and frankly, the American McCarthyists, exponents of liberal democracy, have done worse.

Rakean93 · 2021-08-16T05:08:31+00:00

D'Annunzio, Marinetti, Cantimori, Gentile, just to name a few.

Edit: nowadays there are also Gervasoni, Buttafuoco, Fusaro, for example. All of them are academics or broadly-known mainstream tier writers. Pennacchi just died unfortunately. Anyway, we just need more.

Rakean93 · 2021-08-15T18:07:33+00:00

Won't let the immigrants in and will defend the jus sanguinis to death, but the party itself is neutral reguarding Israel. I'm more concerned about economical policies, because the leadership is trying to appeal the middle class.

Edit: I must point out that Italy is different from USA. We don't have a Jewish lobby, the ADL or really anything like that. We don't support Israel by default as the United States do. I don't know if we recognize Gerusalem as Israel capital (I recently saw something about that but I wasn't interested), but we didn't for a very long time. We don't have Jews politicians or industrials really. Zionism is not a compelling issue here. Americanism is.

Rakean93 · 2022-07-24T08:51:06+00:00

He is incredibly right. That's an actual strategy I could fight for.

Rakean93 · 2022-06-03T08:49:50+00:00

I finished preparing my chicken coop just in time. Btw, I don't think we will experience anything worst than the subprime crisis, really.

Rakean93 · 2022-05-04T15:07:18+00:00

Yeah, in order to win Ukraine needs at least the direct intervention of the Almighty God

Rakean93 · 2022-05-04T11:21:19+00:00

Banning abortion is utterly stupid and honestly has nothing to do with traditionalism or nationalism. Yeah, on principle, every life is sacred and every white person is valuable for us, but in practice if a woman won't get pregnant she will just use contraception measures instead of just aborting, which is the case for most white people. The kind of person who don't use contraception on purpose is not the kind of person that is going to abort anyway. So we are speaking mostly about babies with severe disabilities, situations of familiar instability and other unpleasant stuff, and niggers who are unable to use condoms for whatever reason.

Rakean93 · 2022-04-14T20:01:18+00:00

The gayest country in yurop lol Na just roll in russian tanks

Rakean93 · 2022-04-10T13:59:47+00:00

I think he's trying to make a point that if we consider Italians whites - which I hope is the case, since I'm Italian - we have no reasons to not consider Chechens whites. It's an argument based on the color line, which I don't like, but I stress a lot the importance of being of indoeuropean (Aryan) origins, and obviously the Chechens are Indo-Europeans.

Rakean93 · 2022-04-04T09:54:52+00:00

What's really interesting here is that the european right seems to be able to hold some extremly important position, namely indipendence from NATO. I was totally left down when my party, brothers of italy, managed to switch side (i know, a very infamous italian strategy) and support zelensky in the ongoing war. I was upset not only because i know for a fact that the vast majority of the party's base actually sides with russia, but because i was supecting that also the electoral base shared the same feeling, while the society al large was just worried about russian gas. Every poll taken since the war basically confirm my position: 54% of italians oppose sanction against Russia and strongly oppose the idea of sending weapons to ucranians. 20-30% won't answer the question, and only and asbolute minority of about 1/3 is ok with sending small weapons. Literally no one want to send big weapons or direct intervention.

What's the connection with Orban? Orban was able to hold some ground aganist the global-capitalistic left and not cutting every tie with the Russian Federation. He basically was the only right-wing european politician able to see trought the sovereignty lenses which informed the last 10 years of out political history. While i still think that the sovereignty movement was a big win by our side (which i credit mostly to the italian and french radical right, that were able to provide some keyword to the mainstream right), it is not enough anymore. It was never enough. Sovereignty was an useful framework, a gymnasium where to exercise the national auto-determination; but it was wrongly directed againts Europe. In the wake of a multi-polar world, which is now reality despite the histerical screaming of the american deep state, we are now called for a european sovereignty movement. We are tasked with the historical mission of creating an european nation, an european identity and an european state. That cannot happend without multilateralism between Russian, China - and even America. But we should keep in mind that is Russia, and not America, the closest civilization in terms of values, race, religion and history. We should never try to cut Russia outside of Europe, because that would mean total european surrender to the NATO-american empire.

Orban was always a close ally of the italian and french parlamentary extreme right, so we can hope that those parties will adopt the Hungarian stance in the following years. In the wake of re-militarization of Europe, we have yet to see a coherent mainstream nationalist party in Germany: maybe they will be able to study the Hungarian lesson and develope one. But anyway, point is that, despite the obvius needing of our parties to side with Ucraine in that war, there is hope for a europeanist right able to hold his ground against america and against Russia. With enough time we could also hope to integerate the Euroasian union in the UE, if we manage to create an european superstate. But right now we must integrate our heartland countries and get the military we desperately need. While America is retreating from the global stage (as she prepares the fight with China), Europe must step in as the regional superpower. We can't do anything like that if we are plagued with NATO shills. But this election clearly show that a different Europe is possible.

NB: while siding with Le Pen for obvious reasons, i don't think she'll be able to win. But we must not discard Macron so swiftly. If he win, he would be in the political position to advance the project of an european army. That would be a very important milestone for us, expecially since the most americanized european country, England, is no more part of the union.

Rakean93 · 2021-10-11T18:09:25+00:00

Nah I'm totally anti-imperialist, imperialism is bas and leads to America and niggers everywhere. Let the blacks rule the the blacks and so on. Otherwise, be prepared to a black grandson.

Rakean93 · 2022-10-11T22:28:21+00:00

I'm not trolling. There are a lot of Jews and there are a lot of non Jews. Jews are bad. Not every non Jew is good. And capitalism in my opinion - expecially global capitalism - is intrinsically bad.

Rakean93 · 2022-10-11T12:24:13+00:00

Italian fascism is indeed different from national socialism. And I think it's better. But wathever, both are gone for good.

Btw I consider myself more "leftist" than "rightist". It's very clear that most of the problems we face are caused by capitalism, and i honestly don't think that even without Jews the capitalism would work better. One can argue about capitalism being an expression of the Jewish spirituality and I think that's fair, but Jeff Bezos is my enemy more than any Jew out there, so...

Rakean93 · 2022-09-04T11:05:56+00:00

I personally crusaded against the whole thing in my circles, but i may have a different angle. I take for a fact that any americand production will need to have forced niggers and faggots because America have niggers and somehow faggots managed to hijack themselves into the slavery-master narrative. I mean, it is what it is.

But LOTR is not just a random fantasy you can butcher and call it a day. It's not like the wheel of times - good books, but anyway just the product of an american mormon that really liked strong gender roles and polygamy. LOTR is a european and catholic mythology explicitly crafted in order to be that. Changing elements is changing the symbolic value, and thus the religious values. It's straight up blasphemous. Expecially when it comes to the Simarillion, which is the most theological and metaphysical book.

Rakean93 · 2022-08-19T17:28:09+00:00

I know that you are Protestant, I know that you think to have all the reasons to stay protestant and i actually don't even think you should just turn Catholic, because as far as I understand you are from s country of the reformation and as a general rule I don't like people who betray their traditions.

However this piece is after he annuciated that the Jews were surely going to turn protestants now that he showed the true religion to the world. Since the Jews weren't interested he decided to hate on them pretty hard. The covenant emphasis in Calvinism and the rejection of the hierarchy still stands.

Rakean93 · 2022-08-19T15:29:58+00:00

I study the reformation for living, so probably I know early Protestantism better than Catholicism itself. Protestantism is Jewish because of the emphasis on the covenant, which admittedly wasn't in Luther but rather in Calvin. Luther however is extremely unclear on a lot of stuff.

Rakean93 · 2022-07-15T12:22:24+00:00

They are still measuring the respective dicks in order to see who have the longest one. The parliament is asked to vote about the government itself and I doubt it will fall, because if it falls the parliamentarians aren't going to get the lifelong pension they get for a full 5 service. So yeah we'll see, don't hold your breath.

If the government actually fall i expect the EU to find a way to influence elections with the threat of the recovery founds. Otherwise there will be a right wing coalition with Meloni and i don't know if she will try some sheninegans to gain something from the war, but at least she will be hardcore against the next immigration wave. Bear in mind, the left tried trice in the last two years to change the citizenship law to implement the ius soli but was cockblocked every time by all the right wing, even the liberals. So i kinda trust that she will do something about immigrants. Nothing crazy anyway.

Rakean93 · 2022-07-04T06:31:16+00:00

Both in his self biography and in other random essays I can't recall right now he explicitly say that Hitler wasn't enough spiritual, being instead materialists. He was referring to the race conceptualisation, promoting the idea of spiritual race and aristocracy. He was also critic of Nazism and fascism for being popular and not aristocratic. In particular, he blamed the the Italian king for letting Mussolini usurp his role.

He however did like the imperial spin on both fascism and Nazism, and regarded the Nazi's SS as a possible way to create a new aristocracy. Overall Evola never liked the whole idea of nationalism, and regarded that as a way to restore the Roman or roman-germanic empire. There are only 2 (2,5 really) texts where he directly addressed the regimes: pagan imperialism was the more straightforward, and was firstly published in Italian, but latter published in German with several changes in the script. The other one was Aryan doctrine of war and victory, which was published only in German and translated in Italian - without changes - after the war. In both of them Evola stress 3 concepts. 1) even within the race there are ontologic differences between individuals, which are the result of a different spiritual level. Those differences must reflect in the social hierarchy in order to get support from/armony with the superior states of being. 2) this new hierarchical state must conquer as much land as he can, possibly the whole world, and restore a hierarchy based on spiritual race and spiritual aristocracy. 3) in order to do so is compelling to restore the pagan religion, which is the Roman religion for the fascism and the German religion for the Nazism.

Honestly I still think that Evola was particularly weak when writing about actual politics. He made all of his best works after the war, when he had to deal only with a select group of individuals from the MSI and he was able to put forward a religious philosophy based on his understanding of the Indo-European culture.

Rakean93 · 2022-06-15T09:22:51+00:00

The emperor of Japan isn't a political leader, and as a symbol he was utterly humiliated and destroyed by the Americans, who forced him to declare that he was of human ancestry and not a god of the bloodline of Amaterasu, thus officially ending the Shinto.

Rakean93 · 2022-05-30T20:56:20+00:00

PPP is useful for internal spending, i.e. private buying food car and house. When you buy from outside it's the GDP that matters. You won't buy steel at a discounted price just because a packet of sobranie costs 1€ while marlboro is 5,50€. I think the real point here is the industry/commodity vs service thing.

Rakean93 · 2022-04-04T11:17:05+00:00

Russia won the war at week 2, when NATO made it clear a direct intervention was off the table. You're too american to be worth responding at this point, you're basically ignoring the reality making outlandish claims. We can just sit here and wait to see how the war will end, after that you'll surely try to explain to me why ucraina won the war despite losing territory.

Rakean93 · 2021-08-19T09:30:28+00:00

Russian communists are basically the same of the radical European right.

Rakean93 · 2021-08-14T09:42:54+00:00

Is important to understand that God, especially in his Western and Indo-European interpretation, is not simply a very powerful person, but the recognition of an ethical absolute. Given the absence of a universal ethical absolute, the Divinity can only be configured as the absolute racial ethics.

Rakean93 · 2021-08-12T20:49:53+00:00

That's a dumb definition. That's something that can happen in fascism. Or in communism. Or in democracy, like it's actually happening.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-26T09:22:35+00:00

No, because m5s is pro gay and pro migrants, while FI is okay to ban gender shit and deploy the army to block immigrants as long as they can get lower taxes. Unfortunately it was a matter of choosing the lesser evil - plus Berlusconi is the one that promoted the early career of Giorgia Meloni when her party was 1%, so maybe there was a personal dimension involved.

Rakean93 · 2022-06-01T14:02:54+00:00

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for realpolitik and actually possible things. Russia don't need us to win the war and anyway we are not even in power. But 90 American nukes within the nation, all protected by american soldiers, with codes that are not even shared with our army, are a fucking big deal that we should probably address before getting our nukes.

Rakean93 · 2022-05-30T13:15:05+00:00

Glad to see you here. Most of times, what's going on is not really related to some obscure conspiracy, but the very evident and clearly spoken desire of more money and power. Mass immigration is mostly about pumping GDP and providing cheap labour, war in Ukraine was a way to establish once again the rule of the American corporations (which failed). The LGBTQ+diversity thing was mostly about cranking up the anticapitalist movement while throwing a bone to the leftish masses. That's why our race - every race actually - and our nations - and really every nation - can only thrive with some kind of socialist economy. There are people who honestly hates the white race, but for the elites it doesn't really matter which race they rule upon. Capitalism is very effective if you aim to material wealth, and that's proved by all the western world, which is indeed extremely rich. It's bad for basically everything else.

Edit: I would also point out that you can't be a socialist while not being racialist and nationalist. Those who are not, are in bad faith or really ignorant of the history and the basics of how humans behave.

Rakean93 · 2022-04-20T22:52:58+00:00

I think that white nationalists, or nationalists at all, have very little in place both in Russian army and in Russia itself. They don't seem to think along those lines at the moment and those terms have, anyway, a very different meaning for them. Nazism, for example, is mostly linked to anti-russian feelings, and nationalism is a liberal and libertine ideology that promotes mostly capitalism, gay sex and drugs. There may be a few white nationalists among the most westernised people, but I don't think it's prevalent at all.

Likely, the most common thing that you will find related to white nationalism is about the defence and the supremacy of the Russian language and the orthodox church.

Rakean93 · 2022-04-14T21:20:14+00:00

not my point.

Rakean93 · 2022-04-13T09:04:30+00:00

Idk I went to a Catholic church and by the age of 10 I was unironically drawing swastikas on my textbooks.

Rakean93 · 2022-04-10T14:50:25+00:00

I can't tell anything from caspar, but the article you posted wasn't particulary conclusive by itself. Yeah, it take in account some characteristic and draw lines accordingly. But there are no way to say if this method is better than just say "look at them, they are clearly whites".

also, Chechens are still indo-europeans

Rakean93 · 2022-04-04T08:34:37+00:00

Putin never changed his demands, he always asked for donbass and neutrality. I suspect that propaganda in America is even worse than the one in Europe.

Rakean93 · 2021-10-11T21:56:36+00:00

Imperialism definetly isn't based, however I'm going to support Columbus Day reguardless for the very simple fact I'm extremely nationalistic and I'm not going to allow anyone to criticize Columbus.

Rakean93 · 2022-10-07T09:52:36+00:00

From the outside Danes seems to be the only functioning Nordics honestly, the left is portrayed as anti immigration and that means, on bright side, nothing terrible is going to happen, but on the other hand there's little space for the right to grow - which may even be a good thing, since a lot of right is just neoliberism.

So, on to my questions: what are the stakes in that elections? There are cultural key points? International key points? What is people actually voting for?

Rakean93 · 2022-09-26T18:16:28+00:00

No, the financial chil-bonus is for everyone, not just for those who decide to not get the abortion. That's just to boost natality overall. They are trying to find other means to prevent abortions, I'm not aware of what they plan to do about that.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-26T09:51:17+00:00

200€ is a monthly amount, I forgot that part. I mean it's not bad, 200€/m is def enough to raise a children as long as school and healthcare are covered by the state.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-25T11:47:24+00:00

I don't agree. I personally support Russia, but it's better for Europe to gain power as a third pole between Russia and America.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-10T17:31:18+00:00

For example, it's a fact that that 20% of Gen Z now identifies as some form of homosexual. The highest of any other group.

That's not surprising since quite a few men can fuck with males if they really want to fuck (expecially with feminine-presenting male), and basically every woman in the world is actually bisexual/pansexual.

That's not to understimate the problem, which exists in the form of the promotion of recreational sex as opposed to reproductive one and absence of gender roles. That's just to point out that the mere sexuality thing was to be expected.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-09T18:14:39+00:00

Rich people are, as for now, a force of subversion. The capitalist system itself makes necessary for them being subversive, because the state exist both in order to protect and to limitate them. They always try to get rid of limitations - which means uncontrolled immigration, atomism, consumerism and so on. On the other side this system can't sustain forever in that form. It will be either some kind of socialism, with the state as ultimate master of economy, or the end of the modern state. If in the future they will start to talk about privatising parts of the army, you will know for sure that the modern state won't survive. At the point, maybe a new feudalism will fix the morality of the rich people.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-04T11:09:22+00:00

I can't understand why the black race is willing to humiliate itself by proclaming that tyhey absolutely need to be integrated in white society. They should have asked for a black state in the USA.

Rakean93 · 2022-08-14T19:34:34+00:00

Btw the article lacks of context. I said previously that the right is scared because the EU could interfere with the elections. We are waiting for 200 billions and they will surely try to use the money as leverage to increase the left consensus. This pledge of allegiance is intended to reassure the people that they are going to get the cash, basically. About the NATO, Meloni is trying to use this war to justify an increased military spending aimed towards a bigger role of Italy in the Mediterranean. I'm not making up that stuff, she explicitly said that a month ago during the Milanese convection. Obviously still, there won't be anything major coming up - except for the nigger problem, where they want to put up a militarized blockade on the sea, and the gender problem, where they want to provide (mostly economical) support for traditional family and some hardcore stuff.

What the article is not saying, but is also very important, is that not only the right is going to win, but thanks to some ridiculous stuff the left did in the last weeks, the right is also projected to get 90% of the uninominal electoral colleges, which would translate in a parliamentarian majority able to change the constitution without a referendum. So they are trying to do their best to avoid foreign interference.

Rakean93 · 2022-08-10T11:07:33+00:00

I couldn't care less about climate change. Worst scenario, we'll enjoy farming in the Siberian Aryan motherland

Rakean93 · 2022-07-26T09:58:18+00:00

Meloni is indeed pro-nato (not the party). There are 90 American nukes in Italy, being anti-nato is not a serious option for the head of the party. And we have no nukes on our own. Also distancing from randos who commit crimes is pretty mandatory if you actually want the power.

What the party actually has is a solid national-conservative stance, an ethnonationalist ethos when it comes to immigration and citizenship laws, and an explicitly fascist militant base from where they are eventually going to get people for the elections.

The party won't make the revolution. Hopes must be kept low. What the party is going to do is blocking immigration and gay laws, try to get a more prominent role in the Mediterranean, rump up the military budget. And hopefully it will change a little bit the public narrative, which is extremely important.

Rakean93 · 2022-07-13T12:31:50+00:00

American-style segregation doesn't work because the people who are supposed to be segregated actually shares the same space, just with different facilities/schools. In order to get a functioning multicultural empire you need to have designated regions where you allow minorities and possibly only minorities. They enjoy a certain degree of autonomy and you get your workforce or wathever you want from them, everyone's happy.

Rakean93 · 2022-05-12T19:08:57+00:00

America

Rakean93 · 2022-04-25T22:22:58+00:00

Makes sense, nationalism would hit hard the middle upper bourgeoisie. Sacrifices will be needed, especially from the ones willing to work abroad.

Rakean93 · 2022-04-25T08:26:46+00:00

While I would have liked the le pen victory for the shock value, I was hoping for a Macron Victory. The point is that a "based and redpilled" president unable to do stuff won't really, you know, do anything useful, and that would have been the case for le Pen. She's too much anti-eu, and we need a power block to stand against America. So honestly I prefer Macron, with the option of an European army. Plus, it seems pretty clear that at this point the radical right is institutionalised and will be the main contender for any future election, so all in all not bad.

Rakean93 · 2022-04-13T22:48:03+00:00

Ok this is not a personal attack to you, but we have 2000 years of nerds that tried to reduce the faith to rational philosophy, and that's called theology. The Church is trying to figure out the natural laws since the begging, because they are, indeed, considered an extension of the will of God. And that stuff about using ancestors and other people in order to explain virtues is called cult of the saints. The whole architecture of the Christianity is built upon the premises of an extremely rational faith, which was developed with the most advanced tools of the age, the Greek philosophy. Then came the reformation, with Luther and Calvin, both rabidly hostile toward Aristotele, and the thing devolved into a guessing game about random citations of the Bible. So, if you are going after a rational faith, I advice you to try Catholicism before engaging in the task of creating a whole new religion.

Rakean93 · 2022-04-01T19:43:18+00:00

Increasing immigration is good for economy for the very simple and basic fact that you have more people doing stuff involving money in your country. The overall population and his growth is directly tied to the ability of the government of collecting more taxes. This is useful for a single purpose: building an extremely large army. That's because you are supposed to use the army against other countries, so you want it as big as possible regardless any other consideration. Otherwise, welfare etc will be tuned accordingly to the population, so here is were immigration is a no value or a negative values. It is also an extremely negative value for the wages, expecially working class' wages, because you are increasing the pool of the workforce, making it less scarce and then less valuable. That's economic 101.

You should note that in order to keep safe your country you just need nukes, not a massive army.

Rakean93 · 2021-08-16T11:30:51+00:00

In Italy the category of Catholic Reformation was cancelled a few years ago. That's mainly because it's considered an apologetic term from the Jedin's school, and also because Massimo Firpo, the most important scholar in the field, personally hates it. Other terms like "early modern catholicism" are also despised because they're linked to the anglosaxon historiography, which is reguarded to be too much neutral about the role of the Church. About the anti-imperialist role of the inquisition, isn't even new: you can find some early references in "Gui, La Riforma nei circoli nobiliari, Cinquant'anni di storiografia italiana sulla riforma, Claudiana, Torino, pp. 115-116".

Rakean93 · 2021-08-15T16:52:29+00:00

You are right, i totally forgot the actual number. we're still the biggest EU army. https://imgur.com/a/PKTUHte

Btw, i can't tell if you know italian or nay, but the meaning of that phrase is "you can't win over italians", which is strange given the contex.

Rakean93 · 2021-08-15T15:54:30+00:00

I think you misunderstood my post. I'm Italian. I'm asking for a withdrawal from Italy. Invasion took place in 1944.

Rakean93 · 2021-08-15T13:24:05+00:00

Honestly mate, Americans invaded my country, we are still not allowed to have nuclear weapons and, while having the largest army in Europe numerically, we are forced to have American bases all over the country. If you to withdraw, you have my blessings.

Rakean93 · 2021-08-12T08:27:26+00:00

As others, like notably markimus, said, "race" is above everything else about phenotypes and the ability to fit in a context. You can't, 99% of the times, tell apart an European from another. You can definitely tell apart an Asian or an African from an European.

Since we are not blind, the ability to recognise ourselves in the people of the nation is one of the main points of the concept of "ethnicity", the others beeing shared culture, language, and so on. That's not necessarily the "alt right take on the race" since I can hear a lot of nonsense about genetic and IQ, but that's for sure my take.

Rakean93 · 2022-09-23T16:15:36+00:00

rabid homophobe

I don't who he is but I like that guy

Rakean93 · 2022-08-03T13:34:21+00:00

I mean, we all know it's not a big deal by itself. A woman landed on Taiwan - that's literally it. I'm with you with that. But the Chinese did threaten reaction, and I think at least something symbolic should have happened.

Rakean93 · 2022-06-01T11:13:12+00:00

FdI is a in shapeshifting phase.

The core values are still the ones of the post-fascist conservatism, which are nanny state, pro-birth policies, ethonationalism (you shouldn't be overhyped over here, it's the correct definition but it's nothing groundbreaking) and pro-white immigration and anti non-white immigration (Meloni came out with the formula "compatible immigration", which is the immigration from european countries or catholic countries like south america ones). That's at least something.

On the other hand, Meloni wants to get more power. This include the egemony over her european political group, which is the "European Conservatives and Reformists Party". Now that England is gone, FdI is the major player in the legue, but the other one is the poland PiS, which is, in my opionion, the reason beyond her very pro-nato stance, which is alienating her base atm. It's also a risky political move because on european level her party rely on the alliance with Identity and Democracy, and expecially with Hungary. There was quite a debate on tv, where a retired university professor, Franco Cardini, claimed that the party was betraying the anti-americanism of the old MSI. She's also big on military spending and probably will try to get some nukes, but i don't think that's a realistic plan. She seems to be sure that the americans will help us to have our own military stuff if we are vocal enough about Russian threat, which i suppose may be true, but we still have american military bases in the country and literally 90 american nukes on national soil which we have 0 access to. i would argue that if you are planning to get a big army, you should first remove the occupation army from your country. She also claimed something about the "sea priority", which implies she is planning to get the egemony over the mediterranean sea if she gets elected, probably trying to establish once again our informal commercial empire in north africa which was disrupted by the american wars of the last 20 years. That's totally unrealistic and she should focus on building stuff here within the nation and stop immigration once and for all before starting this useless imperialistic policy.

But the real biggest problem, the one that determines the shapeshifting, is that the party is understaffed. The the growth was too sudden and right now they are promoting everyone and their dogs to important positions. That means that the more traditional wing of the party, rooted in the post-fascism, is finally getting some bones, but also that we are literally promoting the most useless people in the world. Ridiculous women that openly claim the superiority of the males while holding political officies (what's the point? you are just alienating women and you are not gaining support between males) alongside with liberals that just wants to cut the taxes (and that will clash with the pro-welfare stance of the party because it's not clear how we are going to pay the increased welfare that is in the platform, expecially for mothers and families, if we cut the taxes). That's not going to end up well, and if meloni won't be able to find some actually competent people we are going to be trashed once again. So this recruiting phase before the next election is the moment where the party's identity will be shaped. As you may have noticed, i'm pretty critical of how the things went so far.

The other problem is that obviusly everyone knows that FdI is the heir of the fascist party, and as Cardini said, "when Meloni will get the power, you can be sure that during the night someone will draw a swastika on the great synagogue of Rome", implying a saboutage. (Yes, i shill for Cardini. He is from my city and from my very same background). It's obviusly good that 1/5 of the country is willing to vote for the party which is largely perceived as the fascist party, but our constitution states that we are antifascist as a country. Since Meloni isn't going to build a dictatoriship, she should address this asap, clarifying that FdI is a national conservatives party and hopefully explaining the differences between us and the american conservatism. Otherwise we won't hold power for much long. And i'm extremly concerned about this, because since 2015 we saw the votes moving as much on the right as possible. In 2015 FdI was maybe 1%, now it's going to be 23%. But now we don't have any more parties on the right, except the ones that are explicitely fascists, and by fascist i mean that they openly call themselves fascist, they do the roman salute, they are packed with icons of Mussolini and they use the good old empirial eagle. Those parties were left free to exists because crancking on them would be counterproductive, but the fascist party is formally outlawed, so they can't simply been elected. I fear that if we can't put up something that resemble a real government, the people will look left once more.

and as a final note, no, M5S is not a right wing party at all.

Rakean93 · 2022-05-17T13:03:50+00:00

I don't think Russia will be able to reach the western part of Europe. I mean, I would be pro Russia in that scenario, but it's highly unlikely.

Rakean93 · 2022-05-13T21:48:24+00:00

Just checked, they are around 1,5% of the population https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Italy But they tend to stay in the city centers when they are not employed in the fields. Honestly they are kind of a sad view, because they mostly live miserable lifes and are exploited pretty hard by anyone. Which is a good reson to stop the immigration anyway, they usually end up as beggars or with the mafia.

edit: also they're mostly in the north. The south is less rich, very few stay there.

Rakean93 · 2022-04-21T18:29:47+00:00

there's nothing like a "greco-roman liberalism", i can't understand why americans can't simply take some ancient history classes like everyone else does.

But on a way more serious note, i need a crocodile.

Rakean93 · 2022-04-04T11:44:40+00:00

I'm glad I'm European because we are not fed with such blatant lies (we are fed with smaller lies). Every mainstream talk show in my country speaks about the needing for zelensky to surrender in order to save at least a part of ucraine. Last week, at the very prominent and left wing show cartaBianca there was an ucranian girl that was claiming that ucraine can win the war. All the guests basically stopped talking, watched their feet for a few seconds and said "yeah, zelensky should really surrender until he can save something".

And now here we are, with an American claiming that ucraine is winning hard. Living in your country must really sucks.

Rakean93 · 2022-04-04T11:25:24+00:00

I'm just glad I'm European right now

Rakean93 · 2022-04-04T11:22:30+00:00

If Russian will end up the war without the donbass they will surely have lost. I don't see this happening.

Rakean93 · 2022-04-04T11:06:15+00:00

Ukraine will indeed cede his territory to the newly formed state, that's why Russia won the war at week 2. There are no other options on the table.

Rakean93 · 2022-04-04T10:44:58+00:00

What are you speaking about? He doesn't want direct control over those regions. He is using the original 2014 autonomy request in order to create one (two?) vassal states that won't be formally part of the Russian Federation but will be protected by Russian army, allowing easy access to Crimea and the black sea. That's the deal. Obviously he would have taken the whole country given the easy opportunity, in the same way America would have gladly taken an Afghanistan vassal state, but that was never the main goal. The main goal, and the only stated goal, was the ucranian neutrality, aka no more NATO close to Russian borders, and the indipendence of the Russian speaking regions (under the very obvious russian influence).

Rakean93 · 2022-04-03T18:53:27+00:00

you don't really understand the situation. Reguardless of any consideration on the field, Russia won the war the moment NATo made it clear that a direct intervention was out of the realm of possibilities. At any moment, Putin can drop a nuke on an ucranian city and just blow it up for good.

What happened is that Putin - likely - had a wide variety of strategic objectives by which to modulate actions and demands based on results on the field. Surely among these there was also a scenario that took into account the possibility of a total collapse of the Ukrainian army and consequently the conquest of the entire country, but the fundamental demands and the strategic nucleus of the action was to obtain the dombass region (for the crimean aisle) and the Ukrainian neutrality, which in fact have already been conceded by Zelensky.

Rakean93 · 2021-10-12T18:50:37+00:00

That's literally a pile of bullshit. Imperialism wasn't what introduced blacks in America, it was slavery (I don't think the the few Jews involved single handedly manage to relocat millions of people by themselves). But you know what will bring for sure blacks in your country? Conquering them. Then you are literally asking to be in the same state as the blacks. Imperialism and ethnonationalism are totally opposite. You may be pro white, but on a broader scope, you are going in a route totally opposed to mine.

Rakean93 · 2022-10-12T08:39:15+00:00

But there was for sure a scientific consensus about the micro-racialization, and saying that this was an hobby is like saying that, just because intersectionality is not part of the official political US agenda, it is just an hobby and no one cares. A lot of people cares.

There was surely a focus on eugenics.

There was surely a push for the war.

You can indeed downplay those points, and i can focus on them. I don't have any conclusive arguments, but you neither, because we can't simply factually check the Reich 50 years into the Nazi government. My points remain perfectly valid.

Rakean93 · 2022-10-11T22:24:06+00:00

I am making assumptions and stating opinions, indeed, and my very first post was I think Italian fascism was better. I have no conclusive argument on the matter, but I shared what makes me think so, take it or leave it. Edit: I think as opposed to "I know for a matter of facts"

Rakean93 · 2022-10-11T13:50:43+00:00

The argument is that Italian fascism is better because that wasn't as unstable as Nazism. You can't just blame everything on the Jews. The war was obviously pushed by England, but you can't say that Hitler didn't have a big deal in make this happen.

Rakean93 · 2022-10-11T13:24:33+00:00

just to add to the context, there was a fascist canchellor in Austria and he was kileld by the nazis, so that Italy was forced to switch alliance with the nazis. Now, if i am to choose between nazism and liberalism i will obviusly choose nazism, but there was a very clear path toward a fascist block in Europe that was forcefully disrupted by the nazis.

Rakean93 · 2022-10-11T12:50:39+00:00

The mainstream among the racist scientists at the time was that there were at least 3 races amongst Italians, and that the better one was the Nordic. Mussolini rightly rejected this ridiculous claim made by the Nordicists, and when he was forced to adopt the stupid racial nazi legislation went ahead claiming that all the Italians were Aryans, basically negating the retarded nordicist claim.

Rakean93 · 2022-10-08T19:00:56+00:00

I support American's partition in nation states. However I think that could be another solution. Partition is obviously going to be subversive from the perspective of the actual American state.

Rakean93