Communism is NOT "anti-white"💩SHITPOST💩

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[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

https://www.iltempo.it/politica/2022/08/01/news/elezioni-politiche-2022-marco-rizzo-attacca-giorgia-meloni-sovranismo-cartone-mario-draghi-32614427/

What happened is basically that the Italian communists turned heavily nationalists, putting themselves to the right of FdI, which is widely recognized as a fascist party (I'm not taking in account the American left wing definition of fascism because it's totally meaningless).

So I agree with you, communism is not anti white. But that's because historical happenings removed the anti-traditional and anti-national elements of the communism, leaving a core of economics and politics which merges pretty well with ethnonationalism

Edit: also fascism was from in his inception anti-capitalist and basically socialist, read http://bibliotecafascista.blogspot.com/2012/03/the-manifesto-of-verona-1943.html?m=1 (unfortunately, not English wiki page for this one, there's the Italian version thought)

[–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Communism has always worked well with nationalism, it just reduces nationalism to one of its many tools to control the population. It is possible to work with leftist nationalism, but it's a difficult, risky and intellectually challenging task.

[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't think is going to happen anyway. Communism, as much as fascism in his historical form, is a spent force. We need - and must - build up on more radical propositions, meaning that we must return to the roots of our claims and to build from there. Nationalism, traditionalism, (non marxist) socialism, so to speak. But in everyday life the people who are heavily involved in radical politics are going to prefer to call themselves with names like fascist and communist just because those are historically successful attempts and are highly regarded as such.

[–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Personally, I am leaning most towards Traditionalism. Unfortunately, most political activity today seems limited to a very basic level, regardless of its actual position - be it nationalist, right-populist, traditionalist, leftist, etc. On the other hand, the ruling elite and their liberal-democratic ideology are similarly incoherent.