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[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

how does it work in America for smaller parties? i know that run for the federal congress/senate is quite a task, but there's room for some serious political action at the states level? Like, there are multiple parties running for officies?

[–]Mr9to5 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It’s pretty abysmal. I attempted to promote the Constitution Party for many years, tried the Libertarians for a couple and knew members of A3P. The entire system from top to bottom assumes you’re going to register as a candidate for one of the two parties and punishes you if you don’t. In my state and many large urban ones, you may not even get ballot access if you say you’re part of a third party that is too small and there’s few safeguards that your write-in will be accurately recorded (strict rules for how it must be written, dubious oversight.) Some rural states have a less obstructionist process, so while you almost never see a third party candidate in my area that isn’t Libertarian or Green, you may see it in, say, Montana. But they know that’s not going to be commonly used. Hence, why you see so many American political factions that aren’t Democrat or Republican trying to shove themselves under those labels.

Non-electoral will unfortunately have more relevance for many years to come. Even for more electorally organized factions this is the case. My local Libertarian Party has multiple meetings each week, tries to swarm events by other groups and flexes it’s muscles significantly largely by staying out of the electoral process and focusing on agitation. When I was a Constitution activist, they never wanted to build a culture or think beyond theory. They never took off because they were conservatives in the weakest, most retreat oriented sense and with competition from MAGA are perhaps finally dead. A3P had similar issues because it was run by a fairly aloof, old school conservative style bunch (ex. Sunic), though people did pamphlet and agitate on a small scale. From these examples, even without the ideological background that Nationalism should be a fighting creed, we can see where NJP is succeeding because like the most passionate Libertarians it is acting as though it has a Total view of life that requires action and camaraderie. More importantly, it’s call to action is existential, we win or we’re over.

[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

At least a relatively small minority can try to get relevant inside the main party and actually rule the country.

[–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If you are referring to the Republicans, I do not think something like that is possible.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

If you're willing to kill for positions of power, then it is certainly possible for a large group of whites.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No not really, the more straightforward path is to essentially propagandize prominent party members into thinking your policy points are more popular than they actually are and pressure them into embracing them.

[–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That is also hard to do in the West, since there's a general consensus among politicians across both the left and the right that nationalism should be rejected. I am not sure I would even want mainstream politicians to embrace nationalism, though. They'd only use it opportunistically, just like with everything else.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Also makes no sense because who has more money, working class Joe-schmo local racist group, or Mr. Shekelberg? Politicians do what they're paid to do, not what they think is popular.