Full trailer for the lesbian Christmas movie "Happiest Season" (starring Kirsten Stewart) just dropped!

Innisfree · 2020-11-10T07:50:11+00:00

Looking forward to it. Can't help thinking that the film will be less Hallmarky than the trailer presents it to be. Maybe I just need Clea to come up with a sequel: Darkness in Suburbia, where Kristen Stewart is lured and trapped in that rich family's closet. But Jordan Peele did it better with Get Out already lol

Innisfree · 2020-10-21T11:37:41+00:00

Look at you calling everybody out looool. As to the stillness in the forum my feeling is it's due to a combo of the old crowd exhausting most topics and business.

the Russian/French speaking Jewess, Movie Night Woman

Is what I'll be hearing in the darkness now :D

Innisfree · 2020-10-18T19:35:17+00:00

Well it was a laugh! And even though I struggled with following the translation in some places the jocular tone still came through. I particularly enjoyed the play on class (as in the dreamy impractical rich girl vs the practical earner lesbian) and on stereotypes (the party loving girl). But they do subvert some of the stereotypes - the macho torreador father turns out to be the more accepting one, the imperious, ice cold mother turns out to be more party loving etc. While all the characters are a riot, my favorite plot thread was with the two older women - the singers. That romance came as a great, all be it slightly over the top twist.

But then again, over the top, sunny and funny is the spirit of the entire film.

Innisfree · 2020-10-07T22:36:15+00:00

Wow, well I sure learned sth new today 😂

Innisfree · 2020-10-06T22:24:05+00:00

Amen 😂

Innisfree · 2020-10-06T22:18:27+00:00

The best one I read was from florasis on tribbing. I vote for her to give a breakdown of the best sex positions again, that's crucial information.

She's our tribbadour lol (tribbadour - troubadour :) )

Innisfree · 2020-10-05T17:42:36+00:00

Yes every Meg Ryan romcom. If we had the remakes can you imagine the choice paralysis? :) I would never be able to decide between the new versions of Sleepless in Seatle or You've Got Mail.

Innisfree · 2020-10-05T17:38:57+00:00

Unpardonable of me to forget about Kate Moennig!

Excellent choices!

Innisfree · 2020-10-04T10:05:13+00:00

Fantasy is the perfect genre for it! A good imagination has endless space to run wild :).

Hansel and Gretel:Witch Hunters is the original I also haven't seen but I'd watch the lesbian remake Hansel and Gretel:Witch Savers :)

Innisfree · 2020-10-04T07:28:44+00:00

That's kind of the point. It's not a serious sales pitch lol. Still, your searing criticism is duly noted :)

Innisfree · 2020-10-04T07:14:33+00:00

Oooh this should be a separate thread! So many good choices.

I suggest Thandie Newton or Rachel Weisz for Lestat, Adele Haenel for Louis/a, Penelope Cruz for Armand, Salma Hayek for Santiago and Rachel MacAdams for Molloy.

Also with such a cast, I volunteer to play the minor parts myself, sod the blokes, they have enough movies to star in :)

Innisfree · 2020-10-04T04:08:00+00:00

Now you've done it - i have to tag this NSFW :)

I need a braver soul to replace me here - i must be released by reason of overexposure to hotness. :)

Innisfree · 2020-10-04T03:17:52+00:00

Oof il fait chaud ici, i need a fan :D

Innisfree · 2020-10-04T02:48:29+00:00

A lesbian Black Panther sounds great though ! :)

If a committee were to name it they might go for "Pink Panther" - so you must insist on full creative control :D

Innisfree · 2020-10-01T00:52:39+00:00

Pourquoi pas moi - Why not me. It's on vimeo .

Three friends want to come out to their parents, but because they are too chicken to do it alone, they invite all concerned to a countryside villa aaaand... hilarity ensues.

In the words of Stefon, this film has everything: your lesbian comic book writer, your butches, your femmes, your best gay friend, the classic gay bar escapade scene, "almost break up" drama and spoiler, spoiler, spoiler. You'll just have to see for yourself :)

Innisfree · 2020-09-24T18:59:39+00:00

5th grade, 10 glorious mins of playing Mephistopheles. The audience did not feel the same :) We should have staged Pokemon.

Otherwise, school was like living with the Dursleys.

Innisfree · 2020-09-23T21:24:28+00:00

There are people who turned their phobias into something lucrative. I'm thinking of Guillermo de Toro who as a kid was absolutely terrified of the idea of monsters and overcame it by becoming friends with them (creatively). A couple of movies later - he's successful and well-off.

I've tried that with post-soviet tax admin officials, all I got was more bills. :)

I bet reddithateslesbians knows a great deal about contraception despite not needing it, Bumfuzzle knows how to spot violent people, pixels is ace on building regulations and Buckskin sounds like a thorough planner. q. e. d.

PS: unrelated, but Bumfuzzle - love the username, cracks me up everytime (no pun intended) :D

Innisfree · 2020-09-23T16:33:38+00:00

Really appreciate your reply. I suppose I'll dive in with Wild at Heart. Nic Cage and Laura Dern in it is another win :).

Because of time constraints, I suppose Twin Peaks will be perfect for when I'm confined to bed with a terrible cold (October usually does it), or please God No - coronavirus. Although I confess I'm tempted, particularly because you gave an outline and it's nice to know what one is getting into.

I've seen Elephant Man as a kid. That ending is just heart-rending. The fact that Lynch chose that particular story to tell and that he once said that Kafka is the only artist worth bothering with, points to what is great about his work. He's trying to reach the human, the universal, through the marginal, the bizarre and yes, at times the grotesque. Because we in some ways live marginal lives (all with being homos :)) his work can make an individual's weirdness seem part and parcel of the fabric of humanity, or at least the blue key (couldn't resist :) ) to that humanity.

Innisfree · 2020-09-23T12:51:07+00:00

Ah, interesting show - thanks! Hulu seems to be going all in on corsets. First Harlots, now this. We approve :)

And, you pretty much summed up Putin.

Innisfree · 2020-09-23T12:33:04+00:00

I can't 😂. Stroke of genius with the musical chairs and The Office analogies!

Putin can take the day off and touch up his Botox and fillers because America, Canada, the UK, etc. have identified themselves out of power.

That's the reason for that sly knowing smile he wears all the time. He plays this point that the west is soft - so often.

You know how the press likes to compare today's time with the '30s in Europe, I heard one historian say that it's actually more like after the invention of the Gutenberg press. The information and misinformation spread with unprecedented speed - which, in part, contributes to 'softness'. I suppose we can only hope that the next stage is a backlash from our poor beleaguered skeptics and empiricists.

While Putin and the West do their thing, quietly and steadily stuff goes on in Africa and China.

Innisfree · 2020-09-23T12:06:50+00:00

You have just written one of those brill things that makes you laugh - cry, because it is true, but is also so bloody ridiculous it hurts.

And boy oh boy, I bet many people here were on the receiving end of such communication.

Hello, I'd like to inform you are now a stargender fucker.

What happens to the people who have a few exes who re-identified? The genderized pay-it-forawrd intensifies...

Innisfree · 2020-09-23T11:54:06+00:00

Well since this brill thread was started, here goes: "You are the gorgeous woman with wise eyes in her early 30s that took the buss F in Geneva every morning in the spring of 2018. I am the dork that tried hard not to stare at you. I have a moderatly comfortable place of my own, a good library, a rooster, a few hens and a cat. Write to us so we can figure out this happily ever after together. " :D

Disclaimer: the rooster bites/pecks. If you're allergic to cats - I will let nothing stand in the way of true love, that mf will be shipped to a loving family across the street :)

Edit: Any resemblance in this post to any persons, living or dead, is a miracle.

Innisfree · 2020-09-23T11:19:27+00:00

My thought is that if you don’t feel like a woman, what am I licking and how should I feel about that?

Looooooool. Similarly when an ex goes non-binary I just think wth was I licking? Ladies we have questionable licking history because of these ppl! :D

Edit: Good point on what is old is new again.

Innisfree · 2020-09-23T11:08:50+00:00

Back in 2001. Yeah it was a while ago. Sorry, I cling to dates, to remind myself how far we are from the 90s :)

I remember sitting around for hours (days?) afterwards discussing it with other people online trying to figure it out.

What's the German word for nostalgia for things one did not experience :)

It does take away from the joy of cinema going - all this abundance of takes online. I went into the film only knowing it's about an actress and dreams. Spent a day of trying to puzzle it out. Then went online and read the one sentence that it's about Diane's dream. Was disappointed and decided not to read further, because I want the experience of puzzling out how it all connects.

As to my interpretation that it could be Bettys' dream - I don't think it works because then Lynch's critique of the myth of Hollywood is not as sharp. So, it's just my optimistic indulgence/amusement.

Right now I am thinking of the blue box. Pandora's box of dreams and fears. I think the 'tramp' and the box together represent fear. Or the dark side of human nature. Sometimes, it is fun to be wrong :D

So yeah, cheers for sharing your slice of the experience. I wonder if you watched anything else by Lynch and if so what would you recommend - closer to Mulholland Drive?

Innisfree · 2020-09-23T10:50:07+00:00

Bette is gorge, but yeah, I don't know if her building the Ark will be sexy too. Maybe Michael with his team from The Office will initially be put in charge, obvs they will mess it up (Stay calm everybody! STAY CAAALM!) and Bette will have to take over the management. But that's a whole different sitcom :)

Provocations II

That's brilliant! I confess I had a moment and then I remembered Provocations in the L Word. Bless! Nothing. Nothing is more brill than an exhibit run by lesbians lol.

Innisfree · 2020-09-22T17:17:14+00:00

Ha! Love it when we can trace these connections between different time periods and how ideas change through them or not :)

Well put - Hollywood's model seems good for running things into the ground, including the bad boy myth.

I'll pop out and read about that author of Beauty and the Beast, she sounds like an interesting character. Cheers! :)

Edit: just a second thank you - found an article expounding on what you said, for those interested. The sheer amount of messages to girls on what will happen if they disobey arranged marriages and the like, is shocking. There's also an insightful parallel that can be drawn between the myths of Cupid and Psyche (one of the older iterations of Beauty and the Beast) and Orpheus and Eurydice.

Innisfree · 2020-09-22T13:31:25+00:00

No, that is not what is going on. That's just us going off on a tangent.

Here's some geniune questions for you:

Do you like this forum? And if so why? Why do you want to participate in it?

Innisfree · 2020-09-22T04:45:32+00:00

Yes. First time (oh the shame lol) ! I'm sort of still there.. I don't know where I am. But I love sometimes deciding that the second half was Betty's dream and sometimes, that the first half was Diane's.

Edit: excited sharing. But I wanted to add, I geniuenly mentioned processing in the hope that you'll share your thoughts on it, had an inkling you might have seen it :)

Innisfree · 2020-09-22T01:12:40+00:00

The Shining - that opening shot and the music are spooky season openers for me.

Not horror per se but i watched yesterday Mulholland Drive. I want to rewatch it and find somebody to process it with. I really liked Room with Brie Larson, but no going back there anytime soon.

Innisfree · 2020-09-22T00:44:58+00:00

Omg no way lol! You know, this is the kind of experience we need to hear more. So we stop thinking ourselves into being afraid, what's the worst that can happen - apparently a bit of mortification. But it is a good skill to have, both the talking and the ass staring lol

Innisfree · 2020-09-22T00:41:42+00:00

You make a good point - when ppl don't make the distinction, it is a sign of bad faith aka hating.

Innisfree · 2020-09-22T00:33:17+00:00

Intense gaze = cover blown :)

Or not being able to maintain eye contact.

True that. I forgot myself with this one woman on the bus, not once but a few morning commutes. She looked like Rebecca Hall, but more beautiful - is my excuse. Anyway, one day she stared right back at me and held a neutral gaze for a while. Like an opening, a question? To this day I wonder what did her look mean, why have we unlearned to speak to strangers on a bus, and above all why I looked at my feet too soon! :)

Innisfree · 2020-09-22T00:22:29+00:00

Seconded on bi women and the rest. The gratuitous hate is the worst, the low effort mud slinging is tiring. Being a happier/more contended person is work, and that's why I appreciate the lighter side of this sub - that includes well placed sarcasm and irony. :)

Innisfree · 2020-09-22T00:11:40+00:00

Prolonged eye contact and what Strictly said :)

Innisfree · 2020-09-21T23:51:04+00:00

I'm dying 😂 while she is furiously taking notes!

Innisfree · 2020-09-21T23:47:52+00:00

Nailed it! Looooooool. The brilliant thing is these topics trigger each other. It's the Gotterdamerung on s/ lesbians, the eternal struggle between the forces of depression and those of optimism.

Innisfree · 2020-09-21T23:44:14+00:00

Yeah, the toddler sorter - this one is lesbian, this one is not. Brrrrrrr

Innisfree · 2020-09-21T23:37:28+00:00

I'm with ya, mate. I've reported this a while ago, just op's post history and this clearly being a shit stirring post. But I guess mods be busy.

Also something tells me we've seen op before. Only can't put my finger on it, was it the inquisitor who wanted to burn the "fake lesbians" who had crushes on boys or was it someone else? Still naggingly familiar.

Innisfree · 2020-09-21T23:18:52+00:00

It's presumably one lesbian's issue so we are all asked to join in solidarity and share this experiential wisdom. Apparently it is a truth so big, that nobody until OP had the courage to state it.

Innisfree · 2020-09-21T21:04:27+00:00

Wow, that escalated quickly!

My replies were intended as humorous and general, a comment on language, not a comment on your personal experience. I am just a stranger on the internet, remember? Peace, mate :)

Innisfree · 2020-09-21T20:38:48+00:00

If a second flood comes and we have to choose who goes on the Ark, pregnant Bette, her wife and Dad-Jokes Michael are on it, plus a mix of other great ppl. Because - wholesome! And we'll call it Bette's Ark this time :) and paint it orange, because - carrotcake.

Innisfree · 2020-09-21T20:11:00+00:00

Thanks for the link. This was really fun!

Edit: to paraphrase my fictional dad (86% paternity) , it is not our quizz results that show who we truly are, it is our choices. Lol

Innisfree · 2020-09-21T19:35:29+00:00

Hehehe 👌

Innisfree · 2020-09-21T19:02:03+00:00

One lesbian - one hand. Because they are very good with their fingers :)

Innisfree · 2020-09-21T17:35:00+00:00

Of course it depends. Language is a rich and beautiful thing.

What you seem to be describing though is someone low effort and emotionally imature, manipulative even. A little more than plain old and harmless 'boring'.

Innisfree · 2020-09-21T14:45:25+00:00

Nah nah nah, let's keep on derailing it :D I can hear the sirens, but only from a distance.

You make great points!

"teaching" the male character how to be a person and have a conversation, WHY do women always have to fill this role

I recently had an epiphany related to this. My favorite fairy tale as a kid was Beauty and the Beast and only now I got some of its message (better late than never, lol).

I think it's an allegory of the woman's prescribed role in the marriage. She is supposed to civilize her husband, make his life more beautiful and less beastly, if you will. The same idea was expressed by the Greek philosophers, and way before them I'm sure. So we are right to be miffed.

Innisfree · 2020-09-21T14:19:12+00:00

I've checked out the trailer. As per your advice, It looks sweet. I just might be a bit old for coming of age stories but I'm glad ppl out there can see themselves on screen. Diversity is important.

Innisfree · 2020-09-21T13:25:07+00:00

Hats off to you. I almost want to apologise for using the word 'poison'. :)

Kids live and learn, if you're exorcising gfs through the medium of drink have none of that maudlin stuff like gin, tequila or God forbid - Vodka. And stay away from those frilly coloured drinks that come with umbrellas in them. Femmes are exempt from the above regulations :D

Innisfree · 2020-09-21T13:05:15+00:00

It's like rip the plaster off version - painful but quick.

Disclaimer: We're not endorsing the alcohol, just the guts to face the wreckage and process it ;)

That being said, what was your poison of choice? I used to find bi girls were best exorcised with beer (it's a happy drink). Gay girls - I haven't found a poison strong enough for that, and I've stopped looking anyway :D

Innisfree · 2020-09-21T11:35:00+00:00

As somebody who was also accused of "boring people" by an ex of a similar flavor to OPs, I strongly object to the wording! We don't bore them, they "get bored". Important distinction. :D

So yeah, "she's just like that" lol

Innisfree · 2020-09-21T11:26:22+00:00

I'll draw on the cheeky words of the Bard himself to add to the support in the comments.

Love is not love which alters when it alteration finds,

Or bends with the remover to remove...

If this be error and upon me proved,

I never loved, nor no man ever writ.

While Shakey romanticises a bit, he was still talking about love, not infatuation. Infatuation is the quick fix, so sod her and let her chase her quick fixes while you move on to build the real thing.

Innisfree · 2020-09-21T10:04:52+00:00

All of this, except I haven't seen The Half of It. But yeah, Alice Wu is boss.

Innisfree · 2020-09-19T21:30:10+00:00

But you forgot about stunt babes

I spend too much time with my bees. Smh - I've forgotten where it's at! Lol

Innisfree · 2020-09-19T18:13:03+00:00

No worries. It wasn't until I wrote mine, that I realized it may sound like a reproach. I was just genuinely amused by the imagery. Besides we're all in the know here, we don't need to make caveats :)

Innisfree · 2020-09-19T13:34:13+00:00

Oh that project has a long history, as anything in Hollywood.

The first draft Ellen wrote with Julliane Moore and it was called "The Burning Bush" - a reference to literal burning bushes, but also to female desire and independence suffering under patriarchy throughout the ages (the vagina monologues kind of bush :)).

The play is about Mother Earth (Miriam Margolyes - a lesbian icon) awakening and avenging the sufference of women through bush fires and other climate disasters. A group of female tutant minge-a turtles led by Ellen Page try to bring peace between humanity and crazed Mother Earth through the media of cappuccinos, world travel and documentaries.

But they had to abandon this idea because of the pivotal scene where Mother Earth's bush (masses of long curly hair sown onto the pelvic area of a pink onesie) literally catches fire. The prop department messed up one day and Miriam almost joined the real goddesses in the beyond. :)

I haven't seen the second and final version of the play. Perhaps other people here can enlighten us both. ;)

PS: What I want to know, is what did André do in Barcelona in 1999?

Innisfree · 2020-09-18T23:11:32+00:00

Pretty insightful!

If a woman touches you and/or plays with her hair when speaking with you, she's flirting and/or interested in you depending.

In Eastern Europe, most of the lesbians of my generation are butch looking. So i am just imagining the lot of us, starting to play with our hair and touch each other loooooooool as in never gonna happen. Isn't the world a big and wonderful place lol

Innisfree · 2020-09-18T22:33:32+00:00

No worries. I feel a lot like you about wanting to know how we got here. But so far, what i read of queer theory just feels like it's not adding in any way to a clearer vision of the world. So much of their writing is wild conjecture, they assert a premise, never explain how they got to it (this is the most maddening) and rarely bother supporting it with sound arguments. I would also start with reading some credible critique (but which one is that?) and not give Butler the time of day, unless you are really committed to understanding the schtick or you need it for uni.

Hannah Arendt has a brilliant quote about this dilemma: "Sometimes people mistake the need to think, with the desire to understand". Often when i go too deep into some "queerology" i go back to this quote and wonder am i mistaking the need to think (that is develop my own sound arguments) with a desire - an idle curiosity. Anywho, this might just be me though :)

Innisfree · 2020-09-18T22:15:14+00:00

Re-watched and re-appreciated. Besides again agreeing with your reading, all i can say is i re-appreciated Sidse's acting and the fact that her character had to stay so well hydrated throughout the film Lol

On a side note. Peter Strickland, the writer and director, said sth that i found to be true while watching: he tried to make a tender film about relationship dynamics, rather than a specific practice (your reading, spot on). He tried not condemning the characters, but also look with humour and empathy at some of the excesses - "the things we do for love".

Innisfree · 2020-09-17T02:47:14+00:00

Haha she is! You're really making me reschedule some stuff. I have the TV series saved somewhere :)

Also sth for the connoisseur in you.

Innisfree · 2020-09-17T02:41:01+00:00

I think they were together for at least 5 years? That must've been a lot of 'gut punches' like that!

Listened to an interview she gave recently (bless France Culture) - she talks about how she has mellowed, how she has found a sort of quiet happiness and steadiness (aka her gf, her dog Philomène, old friends and a healthy balance with work). She really painted a lovely picture of a lesbian in the prime of her life - 50s.

Innisfree · 2020-09-17T02:32:40+00:00

Merci beaucoup! I've ordered Vernon Subutex recently after reading her King Kong Théorie. Her empathy for all kinds of humans shines through that book, despite it being more of a manifesto.

I might dive into testo junkie, because I like Virginie and want to have an idea of what she went through.

Innisfree · 2020-09-17T02:22:32+00:00

Ithe price to pay is high, but I'm ready to do it for my lesbian sisters :).

On a side note: I haven't read much of Preciado aside some articles, is it his Ur-anus book that inspired your take? Also you sound spot-on about Virginie.

Innisfree · 2020-09-17T02:14:21+00:00

If even Virginie Despentes' fiery moods couldn't keep her there, I'll have to up my game.

I'm starting the OCUPPY BUTLER boot camp as we speak.

Innisfree · 2020-09-17T02:08:46+00:00

I'll have Beatriz. Can't deny the idea crossed my mind before lol

Innisfree · 2020-09-17T01:52:16+00:00

Brilliant you are!

because women are individuals who have different experiences (across stuff like race and class), it is therefore impossible for women to have ANYTHING in common EVER,

Butler - the queen of false premises and overgeneralizations.

Loooool about the bow ties. Spot on!

Innisfree · 2020-09-17T01:42:37+00:00

Shall we start an NGO for the poor things? BrainRepair.org We'll show them David Attenborough docs, for a small fee of course that will go towards reissuing The Lavender Menice manifesto lol

Innisfree · 2020-09-17T01:38:04+00:00

Seconded, down to the last letter.

Innisfree · 2020-09-17T01:34:02+00:00

Oh they sure did. Incidentally, the queer theory proponents your Foucaults and Wittigs come from very Conservative Catholic families. I wonder if theres' a link / s :D

Innisfree · 2020-09-17T01:17:29+00:00

Really appreciate your insightful reply!

Particularly because my angry order of some books by Foucault will take time to arrive. I think Helen Pluckrose also mentioned Foucault's influences in her tracing of the history of queer theory and gives a summary in her talk here .

I'm dying to know who was it Butler was so miffed with - probably radfems glorifying the female goddesses Lol

So far I found Butler's ideas, specifically on abolishing the categories of sex, clearly articulated in Wittig's writing. This article explains the connection and summarises Wittig's writings. It also makes fun of Butler misunderstanding and misusing her sources. For that alone a great read, for those who have time for a bit of schadenfreude.

Ps: I'm sure you're well informed on the whole schtick, I just included the links for those who might be entertained by digging around a bit.

Innisfree · 2020-09-16T23:27:50+00:00

I think ultimately her answer will not be that interesting because it's her life and I don't want to dig into it. What is interesting is how we got into this mess in the first place - the history of thought (logical fallacy, more like). I'm reading Monique Wittig's "The Straight Thought" now. The Monique Wittig who said "lesbians are not women" and who wanted to abolish the categories of sex (not even gender) . She is also the one who inspired Judith Butler's "Gender Trouble" - the great troubler of normativity :).

So far I can say that it's like talking to a PhD student who's taken mushrooms for the first time and chased them down with a few tequila shots. There's some good stuff there, but it's swimming under a sea of barf as Strictly would say. I might come back with a post on it if my small brain will be able to gauge the greatness of her thoughts.

PS: this post is mainly in the hope that better minds than mine can start a thread on the history of queer theory and the role of lesbians in it, because it seems lesbians have started this effing mess.

Innisfree · 2020-09-16T19:05:32+00:00

Shalom there

Love the vibe of this post.

Innisfree · 2020-09-16T18:58:42+00:00

I'm not Russian, just live in the sphere of its influence. But what you say about Russia is what I've heard as well and similar to the situation in my country.

And yeah, we'll take the "Eastern girls" are cool :)

Innisfree · 2020-09-16T18:49:54+00:00

Ahhh, now worries. I'm just dramatising for comic effect. But yeah, gay men have it much worse,not to mention that there are worse countries to live in, like Iran for instance

Innisfree · 2020-09-16T18:46:18+00:00

Out for a while and then straight back in. What's the circle of hell in the Divine Comedy for lesbians stuck in homophobic countries? Is it the 13th? :)

Innisfree · 2020-09-16T17:29:07+00:00

This reads both like a list of les TV rep in the 90's - early noughties. And a list of your exes. Lol

Innisfree · 2020-09-16T17:18:42+00:00

Yep, talk about obojaiu things. The other day I bought a chocolate cake with some cherry (vishnya) filling and some liquor syrop. Oh-my-God!

I wanted to get a room with that thing! It made me make pleasure noises I didn't know I could produce 😂. It was so good I want to find out who cooks at that palce. If it's a woman - I'm proposing to her!

Innisfree · 2020-09-16T15:54:57+00:00

In Russian it's lesbianka (still has a very negative connotation) and gey, this one has a less negative connotation, because they use another word of abuse for gay guys.

For love - liubov

being in love (fem.) - vliublenna

adoring - obojaiu

One old slang term for loving someone from a distance - sohnut (the t is soft), which literally means going dry from unrequited love :)

Needless to say as a lesbian in a homophobic country I stayed mainly in the sohnut lane, the liubov part came later. :)

PS: Love this thread. My favorite word so far is elsker, I think in Swedish sth similar is used as a term of endearment, Älskad = beloved.

Innisfree · 2020-09-16T15:38:38+00:00

I have a friend who recently also did this. I am so tempted to ask what was her thinking behind this. I genuinely want to understand. Is it the simple "I don't feel like a woman" (in which case they give credence to the understanding of woman as the worst of what patriarchy projects on us) or is it "I want to abolish the categories of woman and man, so we are all free" . For the last case there are too many questions to write here.

Either way it is sad.

Innisfree · 2020-09-15T22:13:09+00:00

Loooool. Your gf has a wicked sense of humour!

And that's a great idea! Can be used in a comedic way (as demonstrated :)) and it also has some dramatic layers. Lesbians knitting has a rich history (I'm thinking of The Daughters of Bilitis and their lesbian book clubs with knitters, some independent women in middle ages who earned an income through spinning wool etc.) and we even have a whole mythology here: Ariadne and her red thread. It's a symbol of cleverness and independence - a myth ripe for a modern/feminist remagining.

So it seems, Celine Sciamma, we raise your 'Portrait of a Lady on Fire' a 'Portrait of a Girl with Thread" and to your Eurydice reimagining we answer with a new Ariadne. :)

edit: spelling

Innisfree · 2020-09-15T20:53:31+00:00

We better finish that book soon then :).

As to the bell jar situation:

With a house arrest

It's really best...

Sod all, sod all is best in house arrest.

So I hope it ends soon,

By the next full moon

With a shiny new face

And all molars in place! . :)

Ps: if I could, I'd send you guys some honey, cause you must not have it very sweet right now with all the stress around the recovery. And some pelmeny (Russian^TM) to brighten the mood.

Innisfree · 2020-09-15T19:35:29+00:00

Poetry, lol I knew I should've been more clear 😂

But let's face it, you're probs too busy working to review and rate the book, so the horses will have to do it. :)

Innisfree · 2020-09-15T16:30:38+00:00

Also while we're at it, can we have our glorious band reissue a cover of the Bee Gees track "Stayin' Alive" as "Stayin' a dyke"?

Edit: It would drive the queer crowd bonkers! :)

Innisfree · 2020-09-15T16:08:02+00:00

I'll add a firefighter and a boat captain (a nod to the lesbian pirates of yore)

Innisfree · 2020-09-15T15:47:11+00:00

I'm using this quote on the front cover of the joint volume we'll publish with sailormoon.

Along with such gems as "So fking hot!" by florasis and "My horses liked it, ***" by Buckskin

Innisfree · 2020-09-15T09:41:46+00:00

Ahaha at least reddit can inspire great poetic expression. As a sign of appreciation please accept this slightly butchered limmerick:

There once was a sailor named Moon

Who loved reading r/drama till noon

But the ban wave came

And ruined her game

Now our sailor from Moon

Writes fun poems at noon

And shares them with lezziez on saidit

So, s*ck it reddit!

Innisfree · 2020-09-15T00:24:07+00:00

It's certainly unhealthy. But I enjoyed the complexity with which the dynamic was portrayed. It's sparse on dialogue and evocative - good combo. I'll rewatch though and get back with my pensées :)

Innisfree · 2020-09-15T00:19:18+00:00

You don't want to be blamed for all the good calls you're making? I see. I'll take the credit if you share the auditions duties with me. I can't be trusted not to gawp - it's Linda after all :)

Innisfree · 2020-09-15T00:01:23+00:00

Omg. Lindaaa! Yes) Them arrrms.

You should be hereby entrusted with all the casting decisions.

Innisfree · 2020-09-14T23:13:14+00:00

Here's the whole project going down - you are setting the bar too high! Hmm, maybe only Michelle Pfeiffer about 20 years ago if we got her in a gym for six months and didn't let her out until she was ready! We might find her passed-out on some machine though :D

Some people are just meant to lead by their unique example - and no rep can match

Innisfree · 2020-09-14T23:03:58+00:00

Brill reading. Don't know how i retrospectively managed to erase the sad ending from my mind. I suppose i focused too much on the irony of the whole situation. Specifically, that the one who was the sub in the roleplay was, like you say, the one who controlled the relationship dynamics. And her manipulative side - scary stuff!

And if you extrapolate the bdsm roles to just regular roles we play in relationships in order to please our partners, it shows how you can sacrifice your happiness and lose your sense of self when the person who is your entire world desires different things than you do.

That's a great way to summarise the message of the movie. I appreciate it even more now. Because at the time it also rung some bells for me and mapped out a minefield for future relationships. After watching it i remember being less willing to redraw my boundaries. Useful. Perhaps a rewatch is in order it's been 6 years already, wow. Thank you for sharing your thoughts! Highly recommend to anyone in a new relationship or just out of one because - see pixel's post.

Edit: missed a word

Innisfree · 2020-09-14T02:15:14+00:00

Word mate, word!

Innisfree · 2020-09-14T02:14:37+00:00

Thanks for sending the pixelly angles our way :)

Innisfree · 2020-09-14T01:43:15+00:00

I'd love to hear Pixel's thoughts on it - she brings great angles to things that usually fly over my head.

I am beginning to see how pervasive the torture porn and age gap stuff are. You have red pilled me Lol (forgive the use of the term).

That film though saved me from one of my ex's getting my naive self into more than I can handle. I had some alarm bells ringing when she started talking about how "Bdsm is so interesting" and we should get that strap on (cue giant black leathery thing). I wanted to nope out of that the very moment but being the in-love dunce I was I thought I should do research and watch a film. Well this film just confirmed that none of the sub dom stuff is for me. Needless to say we broke up soon after. She is exploring how interesting bdsm is with a guy now :)

Innisfree · 2020-09-13T23:05:10+00:00

Personally, i think there are two ways that strap-on sex can be shown without giving the idea that this is all lesbians do in bed. One that would make a more light-hearted or funny comment on the practice, like we see with vibrators. And one where it is placed in context as the sex toy that it is, that is a small part of some people's bedroom repertoire.

Regarding a more light-hearted rep of kinks in general, I saw this great film once "The Duke of Burgundy" on two lesbians in a long marriage, one of them is really into being a sub to the other. Made myself watch it cause i couldn't understand all this predilection for sub-dom stuff in some lesbian online communities (perhaps they were not lesbians, with online you never know). Anywho, the film shows this dynamic of the sub always trying to up the game with the dom, and by the end of the film their relationship erodes, cause the dom just gets tired of playing out all these scenarios :), of dressing up in the tight leather, wearing the high heels (which hurts her back :) ), saying all the dom talk. There is this whole atmosphere of boredom and also sadness over the whole thing as soon as the newness wears off (which it inevitably does). It is a great example of representing some predilections with nuance and humour.

Innisfree · 2020-09-13T20:12:53+00:00

There's such a negative connotation to strap on sex within female homosexual circles that women who are into it, often have low self esteem regarding sex due to forever hearing, 'its wrong', 'it's too hetero-whatever'.

I can't speak to all but it would seem a pity letting what the community thinks affect their self-esteem. I can see though how it can make it hard to find a partner who enjoys the same thing. But in principle, if one finds such a partner, I would hope they can close the bedroom door on other people's hangups about sex and just enjoy themselves. Consenting adults and all that.

Hehe I think Mary Oliver is in order again: "let the soft animal of your body love what it loves" lol

PS: when it comes to rep on-screen though I think strap on sex is not a problem, as long as it is not the only thing shown - not to give the idea that this is all lesbians do. Just my 2 cents.

Edit: clarity

Innisfree · 2020-09-12T22:42:21+00:00

Ahh, the definition of happiness. I still sing "I said to my reflection, let's get out of this place" when shit gets to real at work.

And here's me and my gf - because the goofy dance move Janeane does here is my specialty :)

Innisfree · 2020-09-12T22:36:32+00:00

Clipboard mixup - fixed it :). The who touches first is apparently called "Too Hot" and has it's own urban dictionary entry Inspired by The L Word of course: Shane gives Carmen a breakdown of the game here Sarah Shahi what you be doing to us? :)

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