Serious question: which would you rather accept?

sineavec · 2020-11-22T18:16:23+00:00

The single White mother with White children.

sineavec · 2020-09-19T03:14:38+00:00

A little over a month you asked us about the Alt-Right "obsession" with the Jews. You received a number of responses with sources backing up our claims. You only responded to one comment regarding "Culture of Critique"; you ignored everything else. I think you wanted a quick summary of the book. Have you read it since then? Either look into it yourself, respond to it when we provide you information, or give it a rest with the, "I just don't get the obsession with the Jews".

sineavec · 2020-09-13T02:55:18+00:00

Hollywood is trying to normalize and make legal paedophilia. I have a message for you, "Our patience has its limits".

sineavec · 2020-08-30T17:24:17+00:00

In what sense are you a "refugee" from reddit? You are in no way differentiated from the average liberal/leftist on that site.

sineavec · 2020-08-18T13:34:25+00:00

opinion

A standard is a standard. You introduced yourself to this forum with a post stating your rules concerning proper debate. You have violated your own standards, your own rules, ever since. That is all I'm saying.

sineavec · 2020-08-18T12:28:54+00:00

I have one account on this site. You're a dishonest person, DoubleReverse.

sineavec · 2020-08-02T02:42:46+00:00

Why would Jews want mass Islamic immigration to Europe when the attacks on Jewish people have increased dramatically due to this mass migration?

I don't have time to respond to all of your questions, but there are plenty of sources on Jewish advocacy of mass Islamic migration into Europe and the reasons for it:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/08/rabbi-calls-on-muslims-to-join-fight-for-religious-freedoms

“When there is tolerance for other languages, other cultures, religions, traditions, we Jews feel more accepted,” Goldschmidt, president of the Conference of European Rabbis and chief rabbi of Moscow, told the Observer. “Jews always felt more comfortable in places where other cultures and religions were respected. At the moment when an ultra-nationalist wind begins to blow, it makes Jews, as a minority, uncomfortable.”

https://www.dw.com/en/muslim-jewish-leaders-team-up-in-exemplary-european-initiative/a-50439636

Gronich says Europe's Jewish and Muslim communities are both very concerned about such political attempts aimed at limiting religious practices. He explained that in Matera, both sides hope to create a new committee. Comprised of two Jewish and two Muslim leaders, the committee would be able to publicly address controversial topics and discuss them with political leaders in Brussels or other European capitals. Baghajati also talked about these concrete attempts to limit religious practice and immediately referred to the "rise of right-wing populists" across the continent. He pointed to the Alternative for Germany (AfD), far-right parties in Austria, Matteo Salvini and his League party in Italy, and Geert Wilders' Party for Freedom (PVV) in the Netherlands. Baghajati said such groups push Islamophobia, "mainly against refugees, but also against Muslims in general, as a political platform with populist overtones." He pointed out that although such sentiments were being peddled 20 years ago, some of the groups using them have now assumed governing power. "That is why we are saying, 'nip it in the bud.' And who better to sound the alarm than Jews or Muslims," Baghajati said. "Together, we want to show that a liberal Europe, one of openness and with respect for human rights, is the right way forward." "Instances of anti-Semitism among migrants is troubling," Granich said. "Unforunately, we're hearing of such cases more frequently, on a weekly basis. Nevertheless, the Jewish community has many Muslim partners and friends across Europe who stand with us in opposition to it."

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/10/opinion/sadiq-khan-vs-donald-trump.html?_r=0

In his victory, a triumph over the slurs that tried to tie him to Islamist extremism, Khan stood up for openness against isolationism, integration against confrontation, opportunity for all against racism and misogyny. He was the anti-Trump. Before the election, Khan told my colleague Stephen Castle, “I’m a Londoner, I’m a European, I’m British, I’m English, I’m of Islamic faith, of Asian origin, of Pakistani heritage, a dad, a husband.” The world of the 21st century is going to be shaped by such elided, many-faceted identities and by the booming cities that celebrate diversity, not by some bullying, brash, bigoted, “America first” white dude who wants to build walls.

https://www.valeursactuelles.com/societe/pierre-moscovici-ne-croit-pas-aux-racines-chretiennes-de-leurope-61643#

The Jew Pierre Moscovici, former Minister of Economy and Finance in France and one-time Trotskyist, says Europe is not Christian and it is "united and diverse".

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4299673,00.html

"Jews should rejoice at the fact that Christian Europe is losing its identity as a punishment for what it did to us for the hundreds of years were in exile there," the rabbi explained as the ethical reason for favoring Muslims, quoting shocking descriptions from the Rishonim literature (written by leading rabbis who lived during the 11th to 15th centuries) about pogroms and mass murders committed by Christians against Jews. "We will never forgive Europe's Christians for slaughtering millions of our children, women and elderly… Not just in the recent Holocaust, but throughout the generations, in a consistent manner which characterizes all factions of hypocritical Christianity…And now, Europe is losing its identity in favor of another people and another religion, and there will be no remnants and survivors from the impurity of Christianity, which shed a lot of blood it won't be able to atone for."

sineavec · 2020-07-28T13:48:08+00:00

The positive feelings it creates inside me. This is the evidence.

sineavec · 2020-07-28T13:04:10+00:00

I disagree. Swedes are more attractive and beautiful than Australian aboriginals; this is an objective fact.

If I go to a Strongman contest and I see a man pull a semi with only a rope, I am impressed by this feat and it is measurable. He has proven himself stronger than the rest. It is the same when I see a beautiful woman, I am impressed and we can contribute it to Mother Nature, herself, if we wish. It can be her feat, her creativity, her whim. But it is as real a feat as the strongman that pulls the semi. It is measurable by the positive feelings it creates inside me. As objectively true as the man who lifts more weight than the other to prove himself stronger.

sineavec · 2020-07-28T02:16:59+00:00

I disagree. This is based on experience, it is obvious certain groups are more attractive than others.

sineavec · 2020-07-26T01:11:54+00:00

According to whom? It's objective and not superficial as far as I know.

sineavec · 2020-07-26T00:37:27+00:00

The offspring of a Swedish woman and an Australian aboriginal man is not more attractive than a Swedish woman. I know this simply from being around Swedish women. What does "while yours will be lacking" mean?
You only need one mate. Plenty of available partners within your own race.
You can learn that in a million ways.

sineavec · 2020-07-24T19:23:50+00:00

I'm not sure if it would make a good banner, but the following illustration can at least give us some way to see our struggle:https://nigra-lux.tumblr.com/post/128236033022/doré-gustave-1832-1883-an-angel-leading-the.

Any painting by Thomas Cole would look good as a banner, though.

sineavec · 2020-07-24T03:20:59+00:00

Who is to blame for George Floyd's life of crime and dependency on drugs and the media's portrayal of his end as some global injustice and not simply inevitable? This child. At least, according to those who weighed him down, placed a knee on his neck, filmed it, and allowed it to happen. He is fine physically, but no child should be in such an environment; and it's not an isolated incident. Who else is to blame for George Floyd's life and death? Jessica Doty Whitaker, David Dorn, the poor soul whose charred body was just found in a burned out Minneapolis pharmacy, countless amounts of Whites being mob attacked by Blacks since the beginning of the riots.

sineavec · 2020-07-24T01:31:34+00:00

"You have to understand that the raggedy Confederate soldier who owned no slaves and probably couldn't even read the Constitution, let alone understand it, when he was captured by Union soldiers and asked, 'What are you fighting for?' replied, 'I'm fighting because you're down here.'" Shelby Foote

Both the North and the South fought because they had to fight; they gave their lives doing so. That is honorable, we should honor them. It's good to look at the Big Picture, morally. That's how we live and learn. It's also necessary to see the Big Picture, in recognizing people as they are. The modern liberal has the mindset that he is the one weighing everything in the balance, no, he himself is weighed in the balance as much as any other. Modern liberals are seemingly too narcissistic to understand that. No one needs their disapproval of others, anyone can do that. Things would be better if they managed more self-reflection.

sineavec · 2020-07-22T13:03:18+00:00

I try not to curse.

sineavec · 2020-07-21T22:06:07+00:00

According to what you offer, it is better to deny the truth in public than to speak it and look like an a-sh-le. I put away childish things. And regarding your hostility towards us, I am simply happy we have a place again to speak our ideas with one another without censorship. I have appreciation for that, rather than a need to react to your namecalling.

sineavec · 2020-07-21T22:02:27+00:00

I regard you as dishonest. Getting into a debate with you - on your terms - will unequally yoke myself to you, and we will simply be talking in circles the entire time. There is not debating you on your terms.

sineavec · 2020-07-21T02:21:29+00:00

Nick Fuentes is impressive; he's intelligent, charismatic, quick on his feet, he has a lot going for him. That said, he might need a defeat or two, to develop character. As brash as he is, there's always someone who can put him in his place. The future is bright for him, though, if he stays true.

sineavec · 2020-07-21T02:18:37+00:00

desperate to be a victim...you think it validates your bigotry

Again, access to my inner thoughts and motivations. Are you God? Your gimmick is weak.

sineavec · 2020-07-20T18:40:09+00:00

In modern society my empathy opens up ways for both low IQ and high IQ jackals to take advantage of it, and use me.

The world is full of uncomfortable truths. I have a history of being a people pleaser, but it's just a way for people to take of advantage you, as you say. We have to recognize things for what they are, and be willing to speak the truth, regardless of the discomfort it causes us. Aren't we already uncomfortable and dissatisfied, as it stands now?

sineavec · 2020-07-20T17:11:11+00:00

"mistaking"..let you discriminate..expect the whole country to give white people special treatment...you're gas lighting

Where did you find the dictionary that gave you the definition of me? The definition of me, it is under what term? My real name? My user name? Moral disapproval is not a debate, especially when it relies on mind-reading, access to your opponent's inner thoughts and motivations. It makes you come across as effeminate, as a controlling woman. It is beneath all of us here. It is an insult. It is also a violation of your rules for proper debate, but this is typical of your efforts.

bigotry..discriminate against nonwhite people

Look at you, the protector and keeper of non-Whites. I, their greatest threat. You come here selflessly in defense of the defenseless, the one chosen to take down the tyrant. Who do you expect to believe you? As long as we live, we have relationships. Which means we have experience with triangulation: the victim, the abuser, and the savior of the victim at the same the judge, jury, and executioner of the abuser. No one believes you. Again, it is an insult and beneath all of us here. It is also common behavior of an abuser.

hostility

Now we are closer to the Truth. You come here as a Shylock, one who must take his pound of flesh regardless of how dishonorable the manner in which it is taken. You would do less harm to your cause if you had said nothing. But I look forward to it. I look forward to putting up my loyalty and sincerity against yours. I look forward to providing you the metaphorical knife, placing it in your hand and guiding it towards my chest. I look forward to you have take on the horrific but metaphorical deed. Taking a pound of flesh from me.

Let go of any pretense of debate. You are not here to debate. I want you to insult me directly now.

sineavec · 2020-07-19T03:36:33+00:00

I've heard of Sigur Ros, but that's the first time I've heard their music. There aren't a lot of bands nowadays making songs over ten minutes. My mom got me into Jethro Tull and King Crimson growing up, reminded me of that.

sineavec · 2020-07-19T03:07:49+00:00

https://youtu.be/jWk-Vy1Yx_o

https://youtu.be/UCIx07t14jw

https://youtu.be/vNLBMwZSt_4

https://youtu.be/p59tfVW6Df8

sineavec · 2020-07-17T19:12:47+00:00

The man is off-putting. I did almost make it ten seconds. Seriously, if you have something to say (like this guy supposedly does), get rid of the theatrics. We're close to the eleventh hour, time to be serious.

sineavec · 2020-07-17T05:13:31+00:00

They were claiming that Jewish people moving to Israel would be necessary to trigger the return of Jesus Christ to Earth. Do you not believe this to be true?

I don't know much about it; I know it's Christian Zionism and there is money behind the movement. I believe in God and living according to how He wants me to live, this includes making use of my strong points and being aware of my weak points.

It seems strange that so many people in America would promote conspiracy theories about Jewish people while another group actively supports them in their efforts.

It's not a conspiracy theory. For instance this article, written by a Jewish journalist in the Times of Israel gloating over his people's control of the U.S.: https://web.archive.org/web/20140125085955/http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/jews-do-control-the-media/

We’re a driven group, and not just in regards to the art world. We have, for example, AIPAC, which was essentially constructed just to drive agenda in Washington DC. And it succeeds admirably. And we brag about it. Again, it’s just what we do. But the funny part is when any anti-Semite or anti-Israel person starts to spout stuff like, “The Jews control the media!” and “The Jews control Washington!” Suddenly we’re up in arms. We create huge campaigns to take these people down. We do what we can to put them out of work. We publish articles. We’ve created entire organizations that exist just to tell everyone that the Jews don’t control nothin’. No, we don’t control the media, we don’t have any more sway in DC than anyone else. No, no, no, we swear: We’re just like everybody else! Does anyone else (who’s not a bigot) see the irony of this? Let’s be honest with ourselves, here, fellow Jews. We do control the media. We’ve got so many dudes up in the executive offices in all the big movie production companies it’s almost obscene. Just about every movie or TV show, whether it be “Tropic Thunder” or “Curb Your Enthusiasm,” is rife with actors, directors, and writers who are Jewish. Did you know that all eight major film studios are run by Jews? But that’s not all. We also control the ads that go on those TV shows. And let’s not forget AIPAC, every anti-Semite’s favorite punching bag. We’re talking an organization that’s practically the equivalent of the Elders of Zion. I’ll never forget when I was involved in Israeli advocacy in college and being at one of the many AIPAC conventions. A man literally stood in front of us and told us that their whole goal was to only work with top-50 school graduate students because they would eventually be the people making changes in the government. Here I am, an idealistic little kid that goes to a bottom 50 school (ASU) who wants to do some grassroots advocacy, and these guys are literally talking about infiltrating the government. Intense.

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All Christians believe in the same book, why the differing opinion on Israel and Jewish people?

Every belief and system of thought becomes corrupted in ways, because it's in the hands of men and they have their own motivations, good or bad. They may use beliefs and others as a means to their own ends, rather an end in itself. A person is an end in itself, with his or her own value. Their value is guaranteed, and if someone says I will use this or that person for my own goals, that person is playing God. That is a clear corruption.

As far as I know concerning the Jews in the Bible, they became the first followers of Christ, Christians. Jews since then, you can consider them in the same way you can consider anyone. Jesus says, "By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit." Jewish influence on gentiles is a bad tree.

sineavec · 2020-07-17T03:30:32+00:00

According to the Bible, God is the source of all good. Heresy is then an act of intended injury towards God, and so an injury towards all, us. It is an attack on our common ground. An offense to Being, itself. Deliberate lies are the same in that they are an intended injury towards Truth. Deliberate lies are an attack on us. If all went according to this plan and we allowed free speech, we would still be able to understand harmful speech that was intended as an attack on God, the good, and society. We could respond properly and not allow subversion.

When I think of free speech nowadays, it is a tool we can use against political correctness. Political correctness is not heresy, political correctness is used by human actors to entrench their own power and guard against threats to that power. The ADL has perhaps taken the lead on censorship and attacks on free speech. The ADL are bad. They intend to make us sick through political correctness, where as heresy is intended to maintain our health. So, free speech is a more important concept in the modern context.

sineavec · 2020-07-17T02:59:07+00:00

I want to add, if the personality is weak what does it matter one's intelligence? Especially nowadays, when there is so much manipulation and intimidation. Liberals and atheists, they act fearfully in many ways. They censor themselves, they don't follow their ideas to their proper conclusions regardless of the circumstances, they go with the crowd. Intelligence has to be combined with attractive personal qualities and spiritedness.

sineavec · 2020-07-17T02:53:15+00:00

Liberals support political correctness. That is first, about power. Framing the discussion according to your own will, who made them God? Secondly, political correctness limits free thinking and free speech. I think people are capable of much more, they can be more intelligent than liberals.

what you quoted

In that passage, there is: Love, leadership/hierarchy, discipline, group identity, humility/absence of pride, earnestness/sincerity, and knowing the path to get better, to improve. What else do we need?

sineavec · 2020-07-17T02:33:25+00:00

I didn't read the article but it sounds silly. People take ideology too seriously. No ideology can beat this: "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. So be earnest and repent." I don't know if that's intelligence but it creates a proper path for us to follow, collectively.

sineavec · 2020-07-16T03:12:56+00:00

They don't ever want to feel inadequate when compared to someone else (cue participation trophies). These feelings of inadequacy also manifest with their pathological altruism, i.e. dragging others down while trying to raise others up.

When I come across leftists who have "weak personalities", I try to be the one to raise them up, like a big brother or father. At least, in that moment when we are interacting one-on-one; it's certain that weak, neglectful, and absent fathers contribute to those who gravitate towards the Left. I don't know if it works but it costs nothing. And if there's alienation and aimlessness in society, perhaps we can surprise them by being the source that offers it, or at least shows them an example of someone who is goal-driven and with self-belief.

seems like we're different subspecies.

As far as the different types of leftists, I see those with weak thoughts and weak personalities, those who basically forego thought and try to throw their weight around through strength of personality (these types are common on this forum, and the reddit forum), and those with strong personalities and strong thoughts but not a full worldview (you can never get a full view of things through leftism). I don't if all are redeemable, having the potential to integrate to a society that we would and will make. Founding Fathers, if we become that, perhaps these leftists will come around.

sineavec · 2020-07-16T01:29:40+00:00

One clue that liberals, leftists don't have the right stuff is their lack of enthusiasm. They adopt some newfangled idea every week, something that no one in history has ever believed. If they are right, if could only be divine revelation. That should be reflected in energy and zeal, but they don't have it in a deep way.

https://youtu.be/BmerZbDPXns

I go back to this video when I think of the energy that will win the world. As long as our enemies never capture it, our cause will never be lost. And they won't ever capture that energy, and we will not win until we do. Jews are right to fear Whites.

sineavec · 2020-07-14T21:49:12+00:00

Leftism seems to attract immature people. They need their pound of flesh any way they can get it.

sineavec · 2020-07-14T14:11:07+00:00

He is a Black man. Or non-White, if you prefer.

sineavec · 2020-07-14T01:57:35+00:00

Lionizing heroic men and following them even when it seems like all is lost is one of the most beautiful parts of the european spirit.

"...never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee."

sineavec · 2020-07-12T15:32:46+00:00

Hateful Antiwhitism Trending Everyday

sineavec · 2020-07-12T14:46:11+00:00

They're asking for the same thing Virginia Woolf asked for, "a room of one's own". Globalism is theft of all things: our nations, our identities, our freedom to be ourselves. Feminists who are getting out of the leftist framing of things, I hope they continue to see people like us more charitably. We're not their enemies.

sineavec · 2020-07-11T23:19:07+00:00

I don't think time is as important as bringing things to a head is important. Making the one greatest truth front-and-center. The left has won "realpolitik" of the mind, but they haven't achieved their symbolic victory in the World. George Floyd was a symbol but he's a weak symbol. Monuments are symbols but weak symbols. The Left will have to prove themselves in the World. We are beyond the pale, "racist" "White supremacists". Our penalty is a pound of flesh, like Shylock demands. The left needs to prove that they are ready for the world stage. They are righteous and they have to take their pound of flesh from the Right. Dominique Venner gave his life in Notre Dame with the hope that the West would regain its our courage, its backbone. We can provide the left the metaphorical knife, guide their hand to our metaphorical chest, and see if that they are willing to do the metaphorical deed. If they are, they are monsters. If they're not, they're cowards. We win either way. We have to be as brave as Dominique Venner.

sineavec · 2020-07-11T21:53:13+00:00

They have historically said they were sent by God or that they descended from a special bloodline.

What does God say about them?

"You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies."

"So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them."

"By their fruit you will recognize them."

God says the same.

sineavec · 2020-07-09T21:00:18+00:00

It seems they think they have their hand on the pulse of how the rest of the World thinks. In fact, they don't even know how much the rest of the World thinks about them. Look up the Chinese term "baizuo". There's also a funny interview with an Iranian scholar regarding the "revolutionary potential" of the BLM riots. He says matter of factly, it won't work because the American elites are brainwashed and the population is incompetent (I'll try to find it). We're digging our own grave and American liberals are patting themselves on the back.

sineavec · 2020-07-09T20:47:16+00:00

It's going to happen sooner most likely. The Republicans will never win an election again and the US will finally catch up with the rest of the developed world.

I was more thunderstruck by this comment. American liberals might be the most provincial people on earth.

sineavec · 2020-07-08T12:48:39+00:00

Just think of ourselves as families, the same but different. I can enjoy myself at a graduation party thrown for a sibling, or for a friend of my sibling. The one for my sibling will be a little bit different and more important, though.

sineavec · 2020-07-08T12:19:28+00:00

Many factors but their being taught the world is against them, as a group, probably adds to their paranoia and neuroticism. It seems sometimes that "blackpilled" right-wingers have this same idea that the world is against them, also. Media portray recent protests as a spontaneous rise of a new awareness that all people have, it really isn't. They (their leaders) propagandize their own people as much as they propagandize us, and in the same way. When they speak, they speak their native tongue, propaganda. Whether to us or their own people.

sineavec · 2020-07-07T22:00:44+00:00

What is that meme that has fallen out of favor? "Cool story, bro!".

sineavec · 2020-07-07T21:51:33+00:00

To "deny" "it" is on your terms. I "deny" nothing, I follow the evidence. Regarding the question, two reasons:

(1) There are hundreds of references in American newspapers to the deaths of millions of [redacted]. It starts, at least, in 1900 with the rabbi Stephen Wise. There's a "funny"/unfortunate article from 1919 called "The Crucification of the [Redacted] Must Stop!", written by Martin H. Glynn. In fact, articles such as this talking of this "atrocity" picked up towards the end of WWI. Millions starving, millions dead. I don't believe the first two hundred lies, so why should I believe the 201st one?

(2) Does it seem like anything has changed since WWII? Does it seem like any groups have profited from WWII? If someone goes through Hell and survives, they change. They become good, not destructive. We live in a period of destruction. How are the Palestinians doing since WWII?

sineavec · 2020-07-07T21:09:19+00:00

Sineavec, but I didn't post much until the BLM protests. And my name was FJFrancis1 in 2018, from February to May. I remember debating with a time-wasting leftist called "Two-Legged Moose".

sineavec · 2020-07-07T20:39:35+00:00

It's a bit humorous that it's filled with both fully redpilled guys, and DR3 boomer cons

100%.

sineavec · 2020-07-06T17:09:01+00:00

Leftists act like vultures when they can use a death for their own gain. I'm sick of seeing it.

sineavec · 2020-07-06T16:45:27+00:00

Vultures act the same way.

sineavec · 2020-07-06T16:19:35+00:00

Right now, wokescold lunatics are going around admonishing people for rightly referring to Summer Taylor as she/her, insiting they and their. They of course are the ones misgengering. But, and here is the kicker, if you counter that, you can get banned on twitter per their counterfactual, insane "misgendering" rules.

She was someone's daughter and died at 24. She will not have a family, children, the full destiny she had before her. I think that's what matters, not political terms. Rest in Peace to the girl, where she is now, she is no longer being used for political gain.

sineavec · 2020-07-06T16:00:12+00:00

I say that I can learn from others and they can learn from me. That isn't fighting. What we can also learn is that people have unique identities in this World that we have to preserve. That is simply setting personal boundaries and it is necessary for any functioning and worthwhile relationship.

sineavec · 2020-07-06T15:45:26+00:00

I'm tired of fighting unnecessary fights; getting drawn into unnecessary fights. I'm getting banned left and right on any left-wing reddit forum. You know I have more respect for the honest leftists on those forums than their own mods? I've actually learned about capitalism from reading them. You know I can help them learn something, too!? The mods take over and ban you. Some of these bad faith leftists/mods are not overprotective parents, they are abusive parents who don't believe in their children (the regular, thoughtful leftist).

religion and skin color

I want Whites to have a place in this World just like I want bengal tigers to have a place in this world. That is all.

sineavec · 2020-07-06T13:21:44+00:00

We will win by differentiating ourselves. Our elites (regardless of their ethnicity, religion/lack of religion, or whatever) have broken themselves off from the rest of mankind. They isolate groups they wish to destroy then attack. They propagandize populations to join in on these attacks and to cause division. I'm against anti-White race hate because I am White and have certain qualities that make me fit to speak for my people. But the elites that are behind these attacks are the same ones that pay other populations 20 cents an hour to make iphones. They will destroy both of us -- neither is more special than the other to them -- if we simply fight amongst ourselves. We have to become different.

Behold, I will do a new thing; now it shall spring forth; shall ye not know it? I will even make a way in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert. Isaiah 43:19

We have to do a new thing, infighting and division is doing the bidding of our elites who hate us.

sineavec · 2020-07-06T03:52:05+00:00

If you are White, the door is still open to join us. You have to leave the infighting behind, though.

sineavec · 2020-07-06T03:48:19+00:00

In your ideal state what would you do about people who advocate for race-mixing or even go further and advocate for ethnic cleansing of white people in the same way that WNs advocate for ethnic cleansing of minorities in white societies?

Our race is under attack, currently, and it is why we advocate for an ethnostate. So, in an established ethnostate, we would continue to debate policy like we do today, but anything that threatened the survival of the White race would be off the table, not up for discussion. Regarding Europe, it is for Europeans like Africa is for Africans and Asia is for Asians. Europe not being for Europeans would not be up for discussion. This one thing will not be up for discussion. Will there be other things not up for discussion?

Marxism is still influential. The problem with Marxism is Marx. He was a layabout who relied on another man financially to remain the shiftless, head in the clouds man he was. He should have loved his wife and children more than thinking about systems. That is the problem with the Left, they understand systems but not people. It is why they don't understand that it is not an unreasonable demand to say that Europe is for Europeans.

In our ethnostate, two things could change our understanding of Leftism without draconian speech laws. One, education. The elite would pursue philosophy and things like that, and we allow others to go into trades and craftmanship. We will develop masters in philosophy, masters in agriculture, master butchers. This is real equality, they drink from the same cup despite their differences. We will raise up our people and not use education to brainwash them so as to use them for our own ends. Like education is used for by the Left.

The second thing is History is a process where we acquire a higher understanding of ourselves and the world around us. Moral truths are always there, but we have to go through the process of living to understand them. We are going through it now, and perhaps, when we win, we will already have this understanding of leftism and other things to avoid. We will not have free speech in that anything can be advocated, but we will be lacking for nothing, at the same time.

sineavec · 2020-07-06T02:53:58+00:00

Stand by your words. It's an abandonment of yourself, if you don't. That is offensive.

“We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst.” - C.S. Lewis

sineavec · 2020-07-06T01:41:10+00:00

"Arguments" I will not be engaging with: 1. Strawmen 2. Sweeping generalization 3. Personal attacks 4. Whataboutism 5. Any other form of disingenuous behavior

In two sentences, you just violated four of your five rules which make debate impossible.

sineavec · 2020-07-05T17:30:46+00:00

Women expecting standards to be upheld in public are called "Karen". We should learn from them if anything, expect better from people. Hold people to a standard. Stop calling each other names, it solves nothing.

sineavec · 2020-07-05T16:32:32+00:00

True. She had a nice smile.

sineavec · 2020-07-05T16:05:09+00:00

These are the Left's child soldiers. RIP to the girl, Summer, she deserved better. She wouldn't have died in a society that actually tries to make things work.

sineavec · 2020-07-05T15:27:48+00:00

"Karens" are just a target for the Two Minutes of Hate from the left. In a world as big as ours and with as many problems there are in it, women expecting standards to be upheld in public are not one those problems. They're not even a problem.

sineavec · 2020-07-05T15:21:23+00:00

This is all according to you, but, why not debate with those of us who make up the 10%? What do you want to debate?

sineavec · 2020-07-05T15:15:19+00:00

Only two things can win at this point. Intolerance or a father figure/paternalism. If we want to win through intolerance, we have a long way to go. Our opposition is intolerant and controlling our institutions. Being a father figure is our best option. If these people are genuine, I'd tell them to shape up or not expect our support. But just being the most mature in the room will pay dividends in communicating with the person you are trying to win over, regardless of their ideology, sex, whatever. Negativity and immaturity is common in all political movements nowadays. We have to be above it and it is practical, as well.

sineavec · 2020-07-05T05:19:45+00:00

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven_on_Earth

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil

sineavec · 2020-07-05T04:38:05+00:00

personality isn't really defined and measured nearly as well as intelligence.

An example of an abusive personality would be someone who sees people as a means to their own ends, rather seeing a person as an end in themselves. Someone who uses others to achieve their own goals, regardless of the destruction they leave behind. Our current elites have caused a lot of destruction in people's lives. It's not just the alt-right that thinks this. Conservatives are asking where is their representation from their leaders. Feminists are right in saying that they are under threat, they're losing their spaces that are sources of security and self-determination. The working class has been abandoned in favor of identity politics. Many people see themselves as being used.

As far as unique races, who is more willing and capable to speak for his or her group than those that come from group? One reason why I speak out in favor of Whites is that people who are not White are not going to do it. Plenty of Whites take advantages of Whites, but it is more common for non-Whites to take advantage of Whites. And the roles can be reversed, Whites taking advantage of the Japanese, for example, more so than the average Japanese would do so. There are limits concerning how well the different races can get along, especially in a mixed society.

sineavec · 2020-07-05T04:10:09+00:00

Power is dispersed across a wide spectrum of ethnic groups and political ideologies.

Power is power, regardless of ethnicity. What matters is if power is you used for good or bad. As far as "ideology", it is too weak to deal with power used for bad. Examples:

https://youtu.be/B5cH7uf-6ys This video concerns an ABC news anchor on a hot mic saying she wasn't able to pursue the Epstein story because higher-ups prevented her.

https://youtu.be/0fE5r4aLdaE This video concerns Biden inappropriately touching children, whispering inappropriate things in their ears, isolating them from their parents. Given the evidence of paedophilia among our elites, this should be talked about. It's ignored by the media. This man may become president of the most powerful country in the world.

What good is ideology in dealing with this corruption, perversion? We must get rid of these people, we do that by becoming righteous.

I honestly don't care for ethnostates and see globalism as inevitable. For globalism to work this hierarchy must be established and people put where they belong.

I would add two things. Intelligence is valuable. What about personality? Sociopaths/psychopaths make a large portion of our current elites. A personality test for anybody who want to serve as a politician, or work in media, banking would be necessary to prevent sociopaths from gaining power. We can identify these people, now, so we should take advantage of it. The second thing, I value greatly difference and uniqueness. This includes race, nations, and ethnicity, and the world would be a lesser place if we lost the uniqueness of the French or the Swedes, for example. The world would be a lesser place if all nations became like Brazil. One Brazil is enough.

sineavec · 2020-07-05T03:39:06+00:00

In another thread, you were talking about winning over centrists. If this is your plan, it's not going to work.

As far as centers of power, who do you think has a center of power in this world? Globalists? "Neo-Nazis"? Protesters? Regardless of who holds power, are you dissatisfied to such an extent that you wish to challenge that power? If so, we need our own center or power. Can you work with us in achieving that?

sineavec · 2020-07-05T02:28:25+00:00

I always think I'm not going to be surprised by this sort of thing, and then I am.

If we're still being surprised, then it's likely people that have less information than us are also being surprised. And, new information helps us refine our arguments to win such people over. And many may and will figure it out on their own, as well.

sineavec · 2020-07-04T19:40:13+00:00

I meant a couple generations have passed/been born since the Bolshevik terror and WWII. I agree, though, things are moving quickly.

sineavec · 2020-07-04T17:49:49+00:00

I'm not talking about rational pursuits like math and science. Struggle for power between man and man is what I'm talking about.

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. John 8:44

sineavec · 2020-07-04T17:45:27+00:00

'Whiteness' is an impersonal way to facilitate a systematic, genocidal attack on Whites, Europeans. It is also means to identify an enemy, to draw a line in the sand. On one side is our elites. On the other side, are like I said, Europeans who come from real families, with real hopes of a better future. Saying 'Whiteness' cannot begin to define the Good and Evil taking place. This war is down-to-earth. One must get one's head out of the clouds.

sineavec · 2020-07-04T16:54:07+00:00

Whites, Europeans are systematically attacked and demonized. We come from real families, like anybody we want a good future for ourselves and our future generations. 'Whiteness' is an impersonal way to address/think about us, it is a way to practice/bring about evil while not letting sentiment, real feelings get in the way.

I agree with some of your words regarding abstaining from hate and complaint. But, you are coming across as extremely dishonest.

sineavec · 2020-07-04T16:34:18+00:00

He is a Nobel Prize winner. 100% lies. Like I tell you. Serious person? You do not know me. Ask anybody who knows if I am unserious. You do not know them either. You're not a mindreader, friend. You are not looking through a crystal ball to witness my life, either. Be serious, yourself. Communicate efficiently.

sineavec · 2020-07-04T16:24:03+00:00

Quit dismissing a man like Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn as some "dead guy". He is one of the most important thinkers of the 20th century while being the most censored man of the 20th century.

“If you wish to upset the law that all crows are black, you mustn't seek to show that no crows are; it is enough if you prove one single crow to be white.” William James

Solzhenitsyn is a white crow. That is objectively true. If it weren't objectively true, he wouldn't be censored. The media, universities, politicians lie/are inaccurate 100% of the time (whether it's through malicious lies or simply ignorance). I am willing to bet you think these institutions lie most of the time, so what is the reason to accept some of their lies? They lie/are inaccurate all of the time.

Further examples of hate:

https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1277969555910868997

https://youtu.be/G45WthPTo24

https://youtu.be/_vOtZgOOUHA

sineavec · 2020-07-04T16:06:45+00:00

I am asking where you're coming from. We're a couple generations from the Bolshevik takeover of Russia and WWII, and it seems like we're repeating history. Paypal terms "White Advocacy" as "Hateful Ideology". I am a White advocate, I do not have a "hateful ideology". I wish to move efficiently through the b.s. my society puts before me. Hate would just bog me down and make me vulnerable to attack. Back to the topic, the people responsible for the demonization of Russians and Germans are the same people who are demonizing White Americans, Europeans worldwide, and Palestinians. I do not let them define "hate speech" and "hateful ideology". They are full of hate. History shows it.

sineavec · 2020-07-04T15:53:58+00:00

What do you mean by hate speech and hateful ideology?

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Germany_Must_Perish! “There remains but one mode of ridding the world forever of Germanism — and that is to stem the source from which issue those war-lusted souls, by preventing the people of Germany from ever again reproducing their kind. This modern method, known to science as Eugenic Sterilization, is at once practical, humane and thorough. Sterilization has become a byword of science, as the best means of ridding the human race of its misfits: the degenerate, the insane, the hereditary criminal […….]When one realizes that such health measures as vaccination and serum treatments are considered as direct benefits to the community, certainly sterilization of the German people cannot but be considered a great health measure promoted by humanity to immunize itself forever against the virus of Germanism.”

“You must understand. The leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. The October Revolution was not what you call in America the ‘Russian Revolution.’ It was an invasion and conquest over the Russian people. More of my countrymen suffered horrific crimes at their bloodstained hands than any people or nation ever suffered in the entirety of human history. It cannot be understated. Bolshevism was the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant of this reality is proof that the global media itself is in the hands of the perpetrators.” Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

sineavec · 2020-07-03T23:15:21+00:00

Offer specifics; it is only a script, otherwise. I have my doubts concerning your honesty, I will give specific examples that are red flags:

(1) You mentioned global conspiracies not being feasible to understand the demographic situation for White countries. I gave you specific examples of people admitting their goal and actions to dispossess Whites in their own countries. You responded that I have a preoccupation with a particular outsider group, you named them specifically. I have not mentioned them by name, only presented them in their own words. That is a "preoccupation"? And you dodged my examples. Accuse your opponent of conspiracy/being a schizophrenic "tin foil nut" stereotype. The accused responds with simple evidence and with what can be observed. The accuser responds by accusing the accused of "obsession". These are common tactics of a manipulator.

(2) You spoke of a future fascism serving corrupt elites. I spoke of the corruption of our current elites, with the example of Joe Biden. He gropes children in public and media ignore it. That is a sick society. You speak of a future corruption, I have shown to you that I would never take part in a corruption greater and more against my conscience than the one we currently have. I will not vote for Joe Biden, it would go against my conscience. I will not pretend that Biden's paedophile is not important, that goes against my conscience. But the people who say I am bad, they ignore Biden's groping of children and will happily vote for him. You responded to my concern regarding Biden's paedophilia with an allusion to cats (it is the media guilty of "what about", so as to mislead).

(3) You have implied that I am "disgusting", a conspiracy-minded individual (that is shorthand for mental illness), having a facade, bigoted, racist, and obsessed. Provide specific examples. Regarding a facade, I value nothing more than sincerity. To say I have a facade is truly insulting.

sineavec · 2020-07-03T21:16:47+00:00

middle ground

That's the answer right there. Our society is full of alienation and individualism, so everybody's on the fringes. But white identity politics is the simple goal in the center, we're all migrating back to it with our unique ideas and assumptions of others. But, conservatives have their own wisdom. So do fascists and religious people. The more we discuss these things through proximity to one another, the more we'll overcome needless prejudices. We just need to keep the first thing -- our continued existence -- first.

sineavec · 2020-07-03T21:04:08+00:00

Then you would share it.

sineavec · 2020-07-03T20:51:20+00:00

Yet, you say you are "disgusted" by me.

sineavec · 2020-07-03T20:50:15+00:00

If you want insight into my mind, I will always have the last word. You learned something new today. As have I. God is great.

sineavec · 2020-07-03T20:48:53+00:00

I take them at their word. This is a sign of respect. Instead of trying to mindread, listen to what people say.

sineavec · 2020-07-03T20:22:19+00:00

Problems are getting serious and this is not lost on people. If stakes are high, all debate should be serious. If leftists want to play games, they discredit themselves. It's like the strong horse vs. weak horse analogy. Playing games is for weak horses.

Leftists have peaked as far as confidence in their positions. They used to say, "Reality has a liberal bias". They don't say that anymore. Now, they say they are morally superior. That makes us morally inferior. That's a serious charge. If they come here playing games when the stakes are high, that is shameful behavior. We can't let that be lost on them. They need to feel the wages of their sins. We have a world to win, these people can't make us fail unless we let them.

sineavec · 2020-07-03T20:08:18+00:00

A child cannot impose terms onto a father. Set him straight, even if he doesn't respond in good faith, we do not know who is watching, who is on the fence. We don't even know if his response is nothing more than a defense mechanism. Being the adult in the room are our terms and our duty.

sineavec · 2020-07-03T20:02:42+00:00

By maligning the group of which I am a member, you malign me.

sineavec · 2020-07-03T20:01:47+00:00

Why bother? Why care about debate? Why care about what I think? This should be serious, not treated as a joke.

sineavec · 2020-07-03T19:59:25+00:00

"The man of the future will be of mixed race. Today's races and classes will gradually disappear owing to the vanishing of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals. [...] Instead of destroying European Jewry, Europe, against its own will, refined and educated this people into a future leader-nation through this artificial selection process. No wonder that this people, that escaped Ghetto-Prison, developed into a spiritual nobility of Europe. Therefore a gracious Providence provided Europe with a new race of nobility by the Grace of Spirit. This happened at the moment when Europe's feudal aristocracy became dilapidated, and thanks to Jewish emancipation." Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi, "Praktischer Idealismus" (Practical Idealism), Wien/Leipzig 1925, pages 20, 23, 50

https://youtu.be/G45WthPTo24

sineavec · 2020-07-03T19:50:05+00:00

Irreverent.

sineavec · 2020-07-03T19:44:36+00:00

I am part of that "fringe" movement (it is, in fact, a centrist movement, you will see), by which you say you are "disgusted". So, you are "disgusted" by me. But you do not know me, so speaking of personal "disgust" is meaningless and a waste of time.

sineavec · 2020-07-03T19:42:14+00:00

Be a student of life, man. I'm not being flippant. There are opportunities for you.

sineavec · 2020-07-03T19:07:48+00:00

I have good news for you, I tell you the truth. Your surrounding environment -- education, media, politicians --, has been whispering lies to you since the day you were born. That is another truth I share with you. Be happy.

sineavec · 2020-07-03T18:59:26+00:00

Overdramatic. You don't know enough about me to be "disgusted" by me. If you knew me, you wouldn't have to feign "disgust". I'm a normal person. Your arguments are weak. If you are of good will, this is my argument for you: "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. So be earnest and repent."

sineavec · 2020-07-03T18:37:33+00:00

Learn; in this one-on-one, you can only be willing to learn and I can only be your teacher. There is no other correspondence. Our arguments are not equal, it is apparent. I told you debate is question and answers. If both parties are respectful, our questions can become perfect questions and our answers can become perfect answers. From that, we develop a better understanding of ourselves and the world around us. We come away from it with a greater consciousness and self-awareness.

Our world is made up of elites and everyone else. Our elites act, so as to maintain and increase their power. Non-elites are split. They are either sufficiently self-directed and self-aware, in which case they will righteously act against the elites. The other non-elites, they need knowledge of the darkness that blinds them. When they act, they are acting for the elite, whether they know it or not. When they argue, they are making arguments for the elite. Whether they know it or not.

We are not sharing a debate. I am the teacher, be willing to listen or learn from someone else.

sineavec · 2020-07-03T18:13:56+00:00

It will be difficult to leave this marriage, but it must be done. I acknowledge that I am on the stage, as if it were a Passion Play within the World. I acknowledge that the elites understand they are actors on the stage, as well. You seem happy to be in the audience, harassing people like us. Why? Because we wish to act? If you are a person of good will, consider what prevents you to deal honestly with honest people. If you are not, then you are simply cheerleading for the elite. And the Passion Play will not spare you.

sineavec · 2020-07-03T17:42:52+00:00

If we let them have their way, yes. We have to impose our own terms on the other side, especially the Leftists who come in bad faith (we haven't our institutions to take on their institutions for the time being). Our terms are to hold a mirror up to them. They can be a Shylock if they wish, those are their terms and nothing else. But we have to let them know that we know of the feelings in them that make them become a Shylock, become a shell of a former person. This leftist who's been here the past 24 hours, his only power is to keep the debate on his own terms. We have to show people like that we have our own terms.

sineavec · 2020-07-03T17:32:09+00:00

Ted Kennedy, regarding the Hart-Celler act, "our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. ... Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset." No one chose but our elites. You are ignorant of your own ignorance. To allow ignorance without correction is a sin.

sineavec · 2020-07-03T17:22:06+00:00

This is the logic of an arranged marriage that was never going to work but the marriage exists because it was arranged. There is no "more perfect union" to be had with the Left. Videos are coming out everyday of mob attacks against Whites. And you, where are your words concerning this? "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?" I have no desire to be unequally yoked with you and God gives us the right and ability to separate from those who offer darkness.

sineavec · 2020-07-03T02:18:36+00:00

You play games.

sineavec