Targeting / Harassmentr/AHS: "No one is saying that you have to be attracted to trans people!" - Also r/AHS mod at the exact same time: "Excluding trans people from your dating pool is transphobic, no ifs or buts."

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[–][deleted] 66 insightful - 4 fun66 insightful - 3 fun67 insightful - 4 fun -  (7 children)

I just don't understand how trans rights is a rights movement anymore. Everything they are asking for is ridiculous demands that infringe on other people's rights. You can't demand other people be attracted to you. That is a violation of their rights.

It's just so fucked up. What fucking clown world we live in.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 41 insightful - 5 fun41 insightful - 4 fun42 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

I agree. 'Rights' are now just 'what I want but make it legally mandated'.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 20 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I agree. 'Rights' are now just 'what I want but make it legally mandated'.

Co-signed. And it increasingly looks like "trans" is code for "I identify as someone that you're attracted to".

[–]Socialjustus 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

TRAs are the the new incels.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 39 insightful - 4 fun39 insightful - 3 fun40 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Don't try to make sense of someone with a personality disorder. It will just crack your brain.

The very best advice I've ever heard or offered about this is that they are much easier to understand when you realize their emotional development stopped somewhere between the ages of two and six. That doesn't make it better, but it frames it more accurately.

Adult-bodied toddlers are the worst by definition.

[–]soundsituationI myself was once a gay 33 insightful - 1 fun33 insightful - 0 fun34 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You can't demand other people be attracted to you. That is a violation of their rights.

You also can’t demand that other people see you, or pretend to see you, the way you would like to be seen. The whole ideology is narcissistic to the core.

[–][deleted] 25 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 0 fun26 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That too. No one has the right to force their ideology onto other people. Validation is not a human right.

[–]EllaRoxySuper Lesbian 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There was a great post on super straight before it was banned on Reddit about not participating in someone’s mental disorder and also saying it’s not my job to validated you in any way. I am paraphrasing and it was a screenshot of a tweet. I completely agree with your comment and that other post.

[–]Poppy29252Natal Cat Woman 59 insightful - 9 fun59 insightful - 8 fun60 insightful - 9 fun -  (22 children)

Superstraight is a sexuality built on exclusion

But like.......isn't that ultimately how all sexualities work.

[–]JulienMayfair 37 insightful - 8 fun37 insightful - 7 fun38 insightful - 8 fun -  (9 children)

But like.......isn't that ultimately how all sexualities work.

Exactly. All desire is exclusionary because you want one thing and not another.

Who demands that you like all flavors of ice cream equally? Maybe peanut butter ice cream just doesn't appeal to me. The TRA response would be, "YOU HAVE TO BE OPEN TO EATING PEANUT BUTTER ICE CREAM. NOT BEING OPEN TO EATING PEANUT BUTTER ICE CREAM IS HATEFUL AND PEANUT-PHOBIC!"

[–]ThrowMeAway2879[S] 26 insightful - 13 fun26 insightful - 12 fun27 insightful - 13 fun -  (5 children)

I mean... have you tried licking peanut butter? Oh... you have? ... But still... how can you say you don't like peanut butter? Have you tried to lick every peanut butter there is? ... No? See! You can't just dismiss every peanut butter out there, there are so many of them. Maybe there's that one special peanut butter somewhere that you'd like?

...

You really should try some of my peanut butter. It's delicious, I promise.

[–]JulienMayfair 14 insightful - 15 fun14 insightful - 14 fun15 insightful - 15 fun -  (4 children)

You really should try some of my peanut butter.

I guess your peanut butter has the right mouthfeel . . . ;-)

[–]ThrowMeAway2879[S] 15 insightful - 15 fun15 insightful - 14 fun16 insightful - 15 fun -  (1 child)

I guess your peanut butter has the right mouthfeel . . .

It's nothing like all those other peanut butters. Much chunkier. I make it with special nuts.

... I'll show myself out.

[–]EllaRoxySuper Lesbian 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Lmfao!

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 19 insightful - 7 fun19 insightful - 6 fun20 insightful - 7 fun -  (2 children)

But what if I have a peanut allergy?

[–]Butterlogs✨Superlesbian ✨ 25 insightful - 24 fun25 insightful - 23 fun26 insightful - 24 fun -  (0 children)

Then you need to reflect on why your body reacts to peanuts the way it does and overcome it, bigot. Our peanut-phobic society has conditioned you to potentially die from eating peanuts, sweaty💅

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 12 insightful - 11 fun12 insightful - 10 fun13 insightful - 11 fun -  (0 children)

Wow why are you so peanutphobic?

[–]chupacabrawitchI'm super thanks for asking 35 insightful - 1 fun35 insightful - 0 fun36 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I chuckled at that one when I saw it....dating IS exclusionary, if I don't like a trait, the way someone looks, talks, or the genitals they have then I am excluding them from my pool. Thank God I am married and don't have to deal with this shit anymore I feel for you single folk dealing with this crazy.

[–]Poppy29252Natal Cat Woman 33 insightful - 9 fun33 insightful - 8 fun34 insightful - 9 fun -  (5 children)

Thankfully not single either, I ended up with a TERF girlfriend without looking for one on purpose so we're just living our evil bigot TERF lives together.

Also laughing at them saying we're just single and lonely and jealous.

[–]SkinnyVanilla 21 insightful - 3 fun21 insightful - 2 fun22 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I watched my wife TERF out before my very eyes. I barely had to do a thing.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I have to create my own TERFs, which feels like opening up my fellow lesbians to trauma by lifting the veil. 😒

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's either preventative trauma taken in controlled doses in a controlled environment, or the real thing...

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 10 insightful - 6 fun10 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

It's either preventative trauma taken in controlled doses in a controlled environment, or the real thing...

Trans-vaccination, in other words! Teach their immune system to recognize the danger signs of anime avatars, cat ears, uwus, and the name Aiden!

[–]chupacabrawitchI'm super thanks for asking 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So evil lol evil for being content and happy.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 11 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, quite clearly heterosexuality is a sexuality based on excluding gay and lesbian people. We REALLY should not be ok with that. Time to start shaming and banning heterosexuals for their unabashed bigotry!

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for pointing out our collective, decades-long oversight! Let's get right to work on that. /s

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

But like.......isn't that ultimately how all sexualities work.

Not for our special entitled friends, the adult-bodied toddlers with a sex drive. (You're welcome, here's a barf bag.) "I WANT" is the beginning and end of the thought process, here. And the reaction to "NO" is similarly infantile.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I still don't understand the logic behind them wanting to force someone to date them, someone who isn't attracted to them in the first place. Like, where do they think this relationship is going to go? Do they think it's worth their time to be with someone who hates them? Do they think the person will change their mind?

[–]Poppy29252Natal Cat Woman 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They know they can't physically force people (as they loOoOove to say, "no one is putting a gun to your head"), but they CAN force people to verbally comply with their desires.

Making people include them hypothetically is enough because it's still a successful manipulation to get what they want.

[–][deleted] 34 insightful - 2 fun34 insightful - 1 fun35 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I'd like to reiterate that if you state you're unwilling to be in a relationship with someone if the only thing you know about them is they are trans, that by definition is transphobic. No ifs, ands, or buts.

Did anyone imagine 10 years ago that trans activists would be as homophobic and hateful as hardcore religious conservatives? That trans activists would literally seek to invalidate and shame the very concept of same sex attraction (and opposite sex attraction too)?

[–]JulienMayfair 29 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 0 fun30 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Even hardcore religious conservatives never tracked us down to our own websites and tried to shut them down.

[–][deleted] 27 insightful - 3 fun27 insightful - 2 fun28 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

That is a very good point. You don't see hardcore religious types making dating profiles trying to stealth or catfish LGB people into a sexy night of being proselytized about their religion.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

That is a very good point. You don't see hardcore religious types making dating profiles trying to stealth or catfish LGB people into a sexy night of being proselytized about their religion.

So true! At least they spared us THAT. Also, you don't see hardcore religious conservatives trying to infiltrate and take over the LGB community, stealing our identities like the Pod People from Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Honestly, as bad as the "god hates f*gs" squad is... this bunch seems even worse. Cuz with them (to mix my horror-movie metaphors), the calls are coming from inside the fucking house. :(

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 9 insightful - 6 fun9 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

I'm in the house.

😧

I'm down the Hallway.

😬

I'm in the bedroom.

😳

I'm right behind you.

😱

Oh @#$%! !

TMAM😵TWAW

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Here's that "reminder" / "reiterate" gaslighting bullshit again. You can reiterate a persecution fantasy all you like and it is still false.

https://www.wired.com/2017/02/dont-believe-lies-just-people-repeat/

[–]ThrowMeAway2879[S] 34 insightful - 1 fun34 insightful - 0 fun35 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The fucking gaslighting these people engage in makes my head spin.

[–][deleted] 32 insightful - 1 fun32 insightful - 0 fun33 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Incels. They are incels. I don't say this as an insult, I mean that literally, statistically, they are not attractive, and they believe that this somehow entitles them to pity sex: https://www.them.us/story/cis-trans-dating

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 18 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Prepare to need a wipe-down after reading that article, which panders to the insecurities of trans people by calling it "discrimination" that most people won't have sex with them. In closing: "But despite the limitations, these results clearly indicate that although the visibility of transgender people is on the rise, we still have a long way to go to reach trans equality."

Uh, that's never going to happen if "trans equality" is "everyone else will consider sleeping with them." Nope. Also, when what you are most visible for is your grotesque behavior, that miiiiiiight be influencing how attractive you are to other people.

Whoever wrote that was smoking something, and should quit.

https://archive.ph/KH032

[–]GreykittymommaMagical lady 💜 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I do feel nasty after reading that shit. They REALLY were suprised that straight women would date a trans woman?? shock I mean have you EVER heard of a straight woman sucking dick? Wow!!!

I am disappointed in you lesbians. Quit indulging these fucktards. That was surprising, now I see why they think all lesbians like girldick... that is just fucked.

I mean this is going to sound bad but AT LEAST transmen have buttholes and a gay dude could potentially know what to do with that, wtf is a lesbian wanting a dick for? Oh I forgot IT'S JUST LIKE A DILDO SILLY ME!!

I'm bi, I'm not falling for any of this and stop lumping me in with gender-confused idiots please.

[–]insta 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Playing dumb is the worst form of gas lighting. This person writes sentences back-to-back which clearly contradict with themselves and they just handwave it away. Just pretend that there's logical consistency and cry out "hatespeech" as you squash any dissent.

[–]censorshipment 23 insightful - 9 fun23 insightful - 8 fun24 insightful - 9 fun -  (4 children)

Bardfinn got suspended (but appealed it) and is seething.

PSA: Reddit Sitewide Rules Enforcement is Broken and Subverted. - https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstHateSubreddits/comments/m2qmqp/psa_reddit_sitewide_rules_enforcement_is_broken/

[–]ThrowMeAway2879[S] 20 insightful - 7 fun20 insightful - 6 fun21 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

"Wait, what do you mean I can't do that?!? You are only supposed to enforce those rules against THEM!"

[–]NeedMoreCoffee~=[,,_,,]=^_^= 15 insightful - 5 fun15 insightful - 4 fun16 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Omg thanks for that i had a good laugh

"reddit sitewide rules enforcement is broken" no shit bardfinn, you and your shitty sub are the prime example of that

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, that's precious. I did notice someone nazi-trolling /r/SuperBis before it was co-opted was suspended within hours. Still hoping that wasn't a coincidence.

[–]deliciousdogfoodmy name isnt a puppyplay reference i swear 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Heheheheh.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 24 insightful - 5 fun24 insightful - 4 fun25 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

The TRA playbook is delusion, gaslighting, tantrums, and DARVO. Plus dirty diapers and drool. That's it.

That's why they can't get laid.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 13 insightful - 7 fun13 insightful - 6 fun14 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

DARVO

I keep forgetting that acronym, I must write it down. Whenever I'm about to make a really good point and sound super smart I trail off and my argument loses its edge somewhat.

Well they always engage in abuse tactics, don't they? Like... um. That thing. You know.. the... oh it's like an acronym like DARPA or something...

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The learning curve with these people is too damned high. Happy to jog your memory. :-)

[–]pacmanla 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How did we get to this point? My sexual orientation is based on natal biologcal sex. If that makes me transphobic, so be it. You can't change biological sexual attraction, that's been around since the dawn of time. How can anyone get behind a movement, that's nothing more than coercive rape tactics at this point, along with delusion & idiotic talking points. Lesbians' sexual orientation excludes men. Gay men's sexual orientation excludes women. Heterosexual women exclude women, etc. All sexualities exclude others that's not within it. This is stupid, rapey, nonsense chatter. Sexuality isn't based on someone identifying as a sex, they're biologically not. This infuriates me so much, that these people don't respect boundaries. But, spouting transphobic isn't going to change people's inate sexuality.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If that makes me transphobic, so be it.

It doesn't (you knew that, I'm just hammering the nail in even harder for newcomers to our discussions). The fact that this whining is getting any traction at all is because people are defaulting to being nice to the victimy-sounding complainers instead of using their heads. No rational adult would accept this same whining from a straight, male-presenting man picking on women who won't date him. They think being trans is an invisibility cloak from behind which they can perpetrate abuse. It's going to get mighty cold when that cloak gets permanently yanked off, and I think they might be feeling a chilly draft at this point.

[–]JulienMayfair 20 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

One interesting detail: u/morr1025 is a reddit account created only 6 days ago. This increases my suspicion that AHS is run by only a few people with a bunch of different accounts.

[–]ThrowMeAway2879[S] 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh! That is indeed interesting. Funny, especially in the light of the fact that otherwise any account <a few months activity is proof of Russian trolling to them.

[–]blahblahgcer 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think a mod from the Superstraight sub confirmed that a lot of the illegal posts made to the sub were from burner accounts, likely made from VPNs, so people could report their own stuff immediately from their real account and look like the good guys.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you can't win honestly, stuff the ballot box or suppress voting...

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 20 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I exclude everyone from my dating pool that engages in gaslighting strategies or hypocrisy in order to acquire what they want. I also exclude people who claim that something they want legally mandated is a human right but is not at all a right anyone has ever reasonably enjoyed.

[–]ChodeSandwichtender and moist 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Typical scumbag plausible deniability bullshit. In their eyes things like crybullying and social coercion don't really exist or count for anything as long as they don't literally hold a gun to someone's head or spike their drinks. Some great black-and-white emotionally charged logic here too: the world is either full of rape gangs and that's the only scenario in which other people's feelings are valid OR everything is totally fine, now shut the fuck up.

[–]ThrowMeAway2879[S] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

don't really exist or count for anything as long as they don't literally hold a gun to someone's head or spike their drinks

Exactly. It's another thing that wouldn't fly for any other crazy ideology. People fight (or have to fight) back against nazis, religious extremists, communists before they get into power. But with TRA's "same sex attraction is immoral and you shouldn't say you are not attracted to trans people" we are supposed to grin and bear it because there are no trans rape gangs marauding in the streets.

You know, I don't want to wait until every other gay kid gets 'cured' of his or her 'affliction' by gender surgery until I say something.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Typical scumbag plausible deniability bullshit

Straight from the narcissist playbook.

[–]sool47 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is so weird. Isn't sexuality supposed to be exclusive though? Excluding women is what's being gay is about. Lesbians exclude men from their dating pool. Straights also exclude LGB . I just don't get this narrative that one's sexuality should be inclusive to all. We can't control sexual attraction, that's what we have been fighting for. So straights can recognize that you don't control who you are attracted to... But trans movement is doing the opposite. They're saying we CAN control attraction. And according to them since we can control attraction we shouldn't exclude trans people.

But we can't. We can't. How is this 2021 and we still have to explain that?

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They have no actual argument for forcing themselves on people. Since that is what they are talking about doing, it is only because they found a socially-condoned special class they can try to belong to that they have become emboldened to don that costume and complain about discrimination (utterly nonsensically because we are not talking about mentally healthy people, here, we are talking about narcissistic professional victims who are enabling each other en masse). This truly the last gasp of the morally insane. Any attempt to reason with it will fail. It is unreasonable on its face. They know it, we know it, everyone knows it who can tell their ass from a hole in the ground. (Helps to pull your head out first. Hope the rest of our woke brothers and sisters hurry the hell up about that before they're wondering where their rights went, too, and who all of these rapey creeps are in their spaces.)

[–]Aspiringcatlady_5 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I will enjoy the day someone reports AHS to fbi for distribution of CP. I'm sure the spamming would have been worthed to them anyways

[–]EllaRoxySuper Lesbian 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So again saying no to them means you are transphobic. Such bullshit. Keep fighting fam. Lots of people have peaked recently. I will say this again, no means no, I don’t have to date you and no matter what names you call me I am still not going to. So pissed they banned LGBS. Today I had some great conversations with several people.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

r/LGBS

Perhaps someone's archiving efforts caught them: https://archive.ph/https://www.reddit.com/r/LGBS/*

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

r/SuperStraightisGreat and r/LGBS just got banned.

[–]jjdub7TERF (Trans Exterminating Reactionary Fascist) 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And then one day, beyond desperate to just make it all fucking stop, people voted Hitler into power and for some reason I end up paying the price for these sick bastards' depravity.

[–]Aspiringcatlady_5 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I really want someone to tip the FBI on Reddit and that sub for CP. Even conservatives wouldn't stoop to spamming CP to silence a group

[–]dreamgermsbisexual nightmare 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So they can brigade and inundate communities with offensive content until they are banned and obliterated, but nobody else can?

Nobody is forcing anyone to be attracted to anyone they aren't.

but

if you state you're unwilling to be in a relationship with someone if the only thing you know about them is they are trans, that by definition is transphobic. No ifs, ands, or buts

It must be hard to function with that much cognitive dissidence going on. Absolutely ridiculous. These people think they’re some kind of force against “hate” when really they’re just aggressive thought police who force anyone who doesn’t agree with them to assimilate or be eliminated. I’m as liberal as it gets, and I loathe bigotry with every bone in my body, but someone simply having a different opinion, or opinion you don’t like, isn’t “hate”. These people are just as bad as book burners and religious zealots who want to cleanse the world of dissenting opinions or “dangerous” ideas.