jamesK_3rd

I think there's far more reason to be pessimistic.

Our society (and in general the world) has trended toward less libertarian, or even classical liberal ideas over the past century toward more authoritarian governance and group collectivism at the cost of individual autonomy and liberty. The last 20-30 years of which pretty much blew the doors off the first half.

But the sixties were a much more trying time in the USA than now. People complain about gun violence here, the reality is it's petty tame compared to the civil unrest and assassinations that were fairly common at the time. Even the national guard was involved using live rounds at Kent state.

The People now don't know history.. What's worse, the people wanting socialism and the socialist policies espoused by the Democrat party in general were not yearning for it because of food shortages, inequality, or injustice. They desire it while living in decadent quarters relative to the rest of the planet, while struggling with obesity, while having freedom to come and go and say what they please, while enjoying tinder and grindr on their iPhone.

Where i do agree with you is this, there is potential for serious unrest soon. But i don't think more freedom or more individual liberty is what's called for our what we'll get. The People in their slavish thinking now earnestly yearn for the govt to save them. Just as a reminder: - The govts of new York and new Jersey tell their minions they can't go out after 8pm, they'll turn into pumpkins or something. - You can't go out to eat, but you can have someone from DoorDash or grubhub go from place to place to place interacting with everyone bringing you food, same with groceries. - You can't travel, but the airports allowing the flow of certain groups can't be interrupted. - You can't leave or return to the country, but we're still processing asylum applications. - You can't go to the gym in NYC, but the Mayor in can, and doesn't think it's a big deal, you guys just need to find a different way to work out. - the feds are now actively asking companies to get your GPS data, to make sure your "social distancing" - Duncan Lemp was literally shot in his sleep essentially by state sanctioned armed militia members who never even knocked on his door, cops now can wear masks and train as soldiers. - as a reminder, if cops acting as army rangers didn't scare you, perhaps any of the agencies that have literally been armed recently, such as the IRS will.

There's nary a word about any of this. It's institutional brainwashing. As a reminder;

• We have kids who don't know what it's like to walk into an airport without being molested by someone the govt tells them they must show deference to.

• we now have govt PSA's on radio, tv and the internet that advise you to snitch on

• most people under the age of 20 have no idea what its like to walk down the street, ride an elevator, drive down the road our walk on the common areas of a assortment complex or gym without being watched by surveillance cameras, where most of them don't see a problem with it.

• even though school shootings are no where near levels of the past, kids are trained with active shooter drills, how to hide, how to line up, how to let the cops search them, how to walk around with their hands on top of their heads like all the others.

And, look no further than saidit, where a satire comic from the Babylon Bee is posted making fun of the idea that parents might actually have to raise their own children. The wailing and gnashing of teeth it caused about the unfairness of it and how terrible and untrue it is. So Ironic.

Sufficed to say, I'm pessimistic. Other than a convention of states, i think people are going to quickly give up their freedom. That's man's natural state, and if you look around the planet, we are one of the few where you can teach your dog heil Hitler or criticize your govt and not go to jail. But freedoms require responsibility, and none want that now.

Sorry so long