"They try to make it so that a belief in a conspiracy makes you somehow outside the norm, that you’re a kook, that you’re a conspiracy buff" - George Carlin by The_In-Betweener in quotes

[–]IamRedBeard 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I didn't always agree with Art Bells guests. I didn't always believe everything they talked about. We didn't share the same political views - But I'll be damned if he didn't run a great show ask a lot of good questions. Furthermore if the guest had a solid case - no matter how out there - Art would interview that guest and treat them like a person worth talking too, even if he didn't quite believe it. But if you had wacky bullshit and no backup to your story he'd hang up on you.

Many nights late on the road listening to Art.

He didn't die, he just went home.

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[–]The_In-Betweener[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I believe this is from this interview with Art Bell on Coast to Coast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K49MmjySRHc

Here is more of the quote:

They try to make it so that a belief in a conspiracy makes you somehow outside the norm, that you’re a kook, that you’re a conspiracy buff, they say "He’s just a conspiracy buff." Well, I’d like to read you something that I wrote: Do I believe in conspiracies? Nahhh. Do I believe powerful people would get together and plan for certain outcomes? Nahhh. Do I believe powerful interests would operate outside the law and maybe even kill people? Nahhh. Do I believe secret government agencies might feel the need to assassinate a person and cover it up? Nahhh. I think everything in America is open and clean and above board and powerful people always play by the rules."

I see new social media personalities popping up who take a mainstream view of conspiracies; that they are mostly filled with Flat Earthers and such. In my experience, nothing could be further from the truth and those that fall in line with this thinking only show that they are unfamiliar with the territory and are just going along with the well tuned social engineering perception that 'conspiracists' are just a bunch of crazies. This is boosted by paid ops to discredit truth communities who are actively working to subvert the malignant psychopathic establishment that robs us of our true potential.

"We have created an atmosphere in which violence and hatred have become popular pastimes." Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

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We can all watch and worship barbaric u.s. football
While sipping on carcinogenic poisons to make us ill
We can salute the flag and watch propaganda news
We can bow down to the murderous military machine
We can elect and follow corrupt and incompetent leaders
We can play violent video games and think it's no big deal
We can live on stolen land with no remorse or self-awareness
We can call people illegal when we don't want to have compassion
We can belittle others and hate them because it boosts the human ego
etc, etc, etc,................ or we can pause, and eat some humble pie

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[–]EndlessSunflowers[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The full quote has even more truth in it -
but I thought it would set people off and distract from the main point here

"By our readiness to allow arms to be purchased at will and fired at whim, we have created an atmosphere in which violence and hatred have become popular pastimes." Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

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[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Interesting study. Relevant to indoor spaces with poor ventilation, for sure.

I notice that they did not control for time based adaptation to the changed CO2 levels.

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[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It certainly seems to have a wild effect on my liberal ex-friends. I'm going to have to ask for a source on your statement.

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[–]sawboss 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

everyone wants clean water and air, and nobody likes litter. without government strangling the market there would be powerful incentives to develp affordable clean energy and to clean up any pollution.

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[–]UmamiTofu 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

OK, how are you going to protect the environment if you don't have a government?

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[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Fair enough. But they've found even slight increases in CO2 can affect brain function. So humanity could have an IQ meltdown as CO2 increases lol

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[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

30,000ppm might kill some animals. You breathe out 30-40ppk. Doesn't start hurting until much higher.

300ppm is only double extinction levels.

Balance is something that is seriously missing from the current narrative

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[–]gooddeath 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You know - when I look back at human history, it's actually quite tragic. What is technology but trying to escape the chains of nature? But then nature whips us back into her bitter enslavement, reminding us that we never really escape.

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[–]sawboss 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Government IS the problem. The whole notion that a bunch of millionaires and billionaires in Washington DC know what's best for you is fucked right from the beginning.

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[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

O2 is life also, too much CO2 kills animals. It's all about balance

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[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

CO2 is life, of course.

Plants love that one simple molecule.

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[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not sure you can blame the bubbles on the top of the wave for the erosion

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[–]SierraKiloBravo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

These were history classes alongside our normal classes, so once or twice a week (not full year formal courses). NZ focused history usually revolved around the land wars, Maori mythology, the Treaty of Waitangi, and the settlement of the country. World War 1 usually revolved around the ANZAC troops (Gallipoli) and World War 2 was more general across the whole war, a following of the timeline etc, mostly on the European theater (not the Pacific). When we learned British history is was usually related to the 1800s and industrialisation.

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[–]UmamiTofu 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You could say the same thing about governments. Should we get rid of governments?

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[–]HeyImSancho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They are not control people by money, they control people by interpersonal relationship. Imagine all top bankers are your best friends.

Hmmm, I would really love to see an elaboration of your statement. As the only time I've had a real banker, not a 'teller', be nice to me, is when they want my money to 'invest for me'. Yet, the truth in this, is as easy as I believe a Southpark episode(adult themed cartoon), where by, one goes into the bank, deposits a $100 for investment, and as soon as he hands it to the banker, and signs, or whatever it was, the banker thanks him, and states,'and it's gone!'

Meaning the banker got his fee, but the money was unfortunately placed into a bad investment. So any elaboration for clarity would be appreciated.

As far as my national identity, it's not that complex, but I don't think I really claim any; anymore. I'm a sentient being, like all others, and I won't be ruled over as a serf. I know this world isn't it(all encompassing eternity), and even if it was, then oh well; when we leave I guess the lights would go out anyways.

On that note, a very wise man asked me what I know of a skull. I was befuddled, but over the years, it's made sense. All of us, are born, and we all die; from that skull, I guess baring racial/physiological differences, the only testament to being here, is that skull in the end; the rest is up to speculation ;)

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[–]Snow[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, very true Snow. I believe it's all created, and I also believe that the empires of 'old', are still in control. The 'forms' they choose to control with, or by, don't matter as long as they keep getting most of the money.

They are not control people by money, they control people by interpersonal relationship. Imagine all top bankers are your best friends.

I read somewhere else, you're Chinese, I don't know about in China, but suspect from what I read, that there are a lot of poor folks. Same thing in the States, and in every other country I've lived, or visited.

My national identity is a very complicated ...

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[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's interesting food for thought, no doubt

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Yes, very true Snow. I believe it's all created, and I also believe that the empires of 'old', are still in control. The 'forms' they choose to control with, or by, don't matter as long as they keep getting most of the money.

I read somewhere else, you're Chinese, I don't know about in China, but suspect from what I read, that there are a lot of poor folks. Same thing in the States, and in every other country I've lived, or visited.

The astonishing thing though, abundance is everywhere, it's literally everywhere, yet it's usually a bank, or corporation that owns it.

These same people, preach to all of us globally, that we all must 'learn to do more with less, as they have more, and more'.

They tell us, the common people, globally, 'it's all our fault', everything it seems. Yet, it's those corporations, the banks, and the families behind them, that are the polluters on a mass scale.

There are solutions out there, paid for by the commoners via taxes, and yet none of these real world solutions are ever put into place.

You, and I, and all regular folks, at least by them, are viewed as slaves. I've heard common people referred to as 'pond scum'. Meaning, it's their proverbial pond, and we're just mucking it up.

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[–]Snow[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I didn't say I agree the quote ,I posted it for fun and I found it's a little silly.

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[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But the point is you can't say "this is party A's fault" when it's both their fault.

That's what you're dong when you blame capitalism, when the culprit is capitalism+communism+other things. That's why I say technology is more to blame than any ideology

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[–]Snow[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't believe any of the commonly discussed forms of govt are anything more than creations by the families that have owned, and run almost everything for a very long time.

I don't believe in any groups built by human in a long term.

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[–]Snow[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am not saying USSR don't ruin the environment.

Party A sucks doesn't mean Party B is better.But people always love to saying another party also suck to make themselves feel better.

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[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And I'd agree with you as well. Youtube has some great 'hidden history' channels; like 'Mystery History', or I believe it's called 'wind'; the evidence they present is amazing often; at least to myself.

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[–]HeyImSancho 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The USSR made nuclear lakes! They're still hot today, and that's Communism. They also caused Chernobyl.

Fast forward to now, and oh, that's right, China is a communist nation, and look what they pollute.

Communism as a whole also wins on genocide.

Having said all that, I don't believe any of the commonly discussed forms of govt are anything more than creations by the families that have owned, and run almost everything for a very long time.

What rules all the commonly accepted, or acknowledged forms of govt in the world today? Feudal pieces of crap that literally think a title makes them more worthy than anyone else.

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[–]Snow[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know USSR known for producing durable cars...not consumer goods.

I am not stood for any political party.

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[–]Snow[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Smart point of view.

But we don't have a chance to see "what happen"if this world is not controlled by capitalism.

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[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hah I see what you mean, but even non capitalist countries invented nuclear bombs and pollute with factories, so it's not something exclusive to capitalism

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[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'd say technology is more culpable than capitalism in threatening mass extinctions, given that it created the atomic bomb and the machinery that's putting out all this CO2

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[–]Snow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sexual predator.

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[–]hennaojisan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, there does seem to be a conspiracy among historians to mention Tartaria as little as possible.

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[–]hennaojisan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, there does seem to be a conspiracy among historians to mention Tartaria as little as possible.

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[–]hennaojisan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I will peruse your link. I suspected the quote might have been embroidered in translation or even made up, like so many other quotes. There's no need to delete your username since I am not irritated in the least but glad for the reactions.

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Minor nitpick, but his conquest were finished by his descendants - Ogedei Khan in China, and Batu Khan in Russia/Ukraine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Kiev_(1240)).

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OP, just letting you know, the only primary source on the Mongols, written by the Mongols, is this - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_History_of_the_Mongols

The quote you've quoted is not anywhere in it. It's a fiction (though funny/ironic) written by white people in Europe.

“'I’m bored' is a useless thing to say. I mean, you live in a great, big, vast world that you’ve seen none percent of. Even the inside of your own mind is endless; it goes on forever, inwardly, do you understand? The fact that you’re alive is amazing, so you don’t get to say 'I’m bored.'” Louis C.K. by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

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No, this quote sucks.

What if I live in north korea, you dipshit (I'm addressing the author of the quote, not the reposter)?

In today's world, some people have all the opportunities, and some people have none. And the internet is the main reason of it. I live in a "developing" country (it would be more sincere to say it's a God-forsaken, dirt-poor, shithole). Median salary here is approximately $750 a month, and failing. Without education or work experience an individual can work for as little as $230 a month. It's better in some other "developing" countries, and worse in some other "developing" countries.

By my calculations, some people that work in the IT sector can make as much as $2000 a month or more, working 4 hours a day and 5 times a week. I want nothing else to say, thank you for reading.

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[–]Zizzle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I believe Tartaria was a semi global advanced civilization of many races and creeds. That is why it is hidden from the public because we will see that things like free energy and peace between people of different backgrounds are possible. Temujin is demonized as some sort of heathen yet he was an expert tactician and skillful warrior.

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I leaned about the name Temujin from Age of Empires.

The version that I copied onto my R4DS was all about his conquest (to their credit).

Not the most reputable source, but I leaned nothing of him from my white washed public education. :-/

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[–]Ash 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's the same like everywhere else and there's only so much you can cram into history classes. Every West European learns about the 2nd world war, 1st world war, the French-German war of 1871(?), the 30 Year War, the French revolution.. everything relevant to Europe. Brits will learn a tiny bit about India as a former colony. Same with Americans focusing more about their Independence war with Britain and maybe the Mexican-American wars and Pearl Harbor.

I'm interested what they teach you in history classes in NZ. We can't afford to limit ourselves when the World Histories, new friends are just a click away. It's our choice.

I'm interested in hearing more from you. Knowledge Is Power.

Edit: Less is more

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[–]SierraKiloBravo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

History class for me in NZ was NZ history, British history, and the world wars. Gave me a taste to read and learn more as an adult though!

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[–]SierraKiloBravo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He has a way with words doesn't he

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[–]Ash 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I knew who you meant when I saw the name Temujin.

To my knowledge they don't teach about him in Western Europe. He's not really relevant for Western Europe/ history curriculums. Do they teach you about the histories of pre-colonial South America, African Kingdoms before colonialism or Australia? I don't think so because your own history and the relevant parties involved come first. I've read bits and pieces of his 'bio' and some fictional accounts, for example the Khan series from W. Jantschewetzki.
I doubt that he was a redhead as a Mongolian but I don't know for sure. What I know is that his people raped and conquered large parts of Asia-(Central Asia in particular and went West to Russia, South to Afghanistan and India and China- of course and so forth). They were spreading their seeds like crazy, evidenced by some DNA research and archeological findings and the cultures his people 'touched'. The name Temujin-'Strong Steel', 'Sharp Steel' is still popular amongst cultures and people that encountered the Great Khan or claim to be the descendants of his people.

It's never been easier to educate ourselves and having the world at our palms via the internet, opportunities to study and get in touch with the people. It's up to us to fill the gaps our schools never taught us.

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[–]hennaojisan[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Temujin was a Tartar from the Great Tartarian Empire that covered a large part of Asia and is not taught in many history classes. Are Europeans taught about Tartaria? Temujin had red hair and a somewhat European face, it is said. Humanity has improved morally and ethically over the last eight hundred years, right?

“'I’m bored' is a useless thing to say. I mean, you live in a great, big, vast world that you’ve seen none percent of. Even the inside of your own mind is endless; it goes on forever, inwardly, do you understand? The fact that you’re alive is amazing, so you don’t get to say 'I’m bored.'” Louis C.K. by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]Robin 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Charles Eisenstein writes that the concept of "boredom" is a modern invention, a spinoff from consumer society. "I'm bored" =~= "I have nothing appealing to consume", the misleading assumption being that consuming stuff is what life is about. c.f. http://www.unwelcomeguests.net/520 for how it relates to dumbing down

Yet another Mark Twain quote: "We have the best government that money can buy." by Optimus85 in quotes

[–]Mnemonic 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Mark! We would rather have the best government your seed could sprout! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpaRouocBes

"I look at each issue on its own merit. Partisan politics don't matter. It only matters whether something is good for the American people or not. That’s why many have a hard time figuring me out. I don’t play their games. I don’t fit in their boxes." Tulsi Gabbard by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That doesn't mean she actually agrees with our thoughts.

The CFR could be feeding her taking points. She could be another controlled Obama.

"I look at each issue on its own merit. Partisan politics don't matter. It only matters whether something is good for the American people or not. That’s why many have a hard time figuring me out. I don’t play their games. I don’t fit in their boxes." Tulsi Gabbard by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]FormosaOolong 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My sense is you have to be on committees like this if you want to be a presidential candidate (Reality TV stars aside.) As tinfoilhatty as I can be, I actually like that she's in there and apprised of what is going on.

It actually makes sense that she is, since the main thread of her position is stopping interventionist wars.

"I look at each issue on its own merit. Partisan politics don't matter. It only matters whether something is good for the American people or not. That’s why many have a hard time figuring me out. I don’t play their games. I don’t fit in their boxes." Tulsi Gabbard by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]offendedsexregister 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It looks like someone's polling identified what people want to hear.

I don't listen to what any candidate says in this period. It's all manufactured.

I laugh when someone says "I really like what this candidate has to say." So you really like their polling data? Smart.

I will use what they say against them though. Like if they say they would give free health care to illegal immigrants then I know there is a risk of the US becoming the world's health care provider. Like if you would do that for someone who traveled here illegally wouldn't you do it for someone who traveled here legally but isn't a citizen? So now we get NHS lines but with the whole world in line.

I'll also believe what they are saying if it goes against polling data. Like when Ron Paul said he would legalize heroine. I'll believe that.

"I look at each issue on its own merit. Partisan politics don't matter. It only matters whether something is good for the American people or not. That’s why many have a hard time figuring me out. I don’t play their games. I don’t fit in their boxes." Tulsi Gabbard by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]EndlessSunflowers[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Amazing to see the low level comments on her twitter (hardly surprising) calling her a russian asset LOL and a closet republican WTF some people just cannot think for themselves

"Propaganda works best when those who are being manipulated are confident they are acting on their own free will." - Joseph Goebbels by magnora7 in quotes

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How is that any functionally different from having free will? Plus you are assuming fate exists, which is unknown

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[–]TheAncientStruggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's why people call free will an illusion a lot of the time.

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[–]Honklomancer 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That simply makes you unaware of your fate

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[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How doesn't it? If you can't see what's coming in the future, life appears as a choose-your-own-adventure book.

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[–]Honklomancer 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How does being an idiot give you free will?

"Propaganda works best when those who are being manipulated are confident they are acting on their own free will." - Joseph Goebbels by magnora7 in quotes

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Since the future is unknowable, there effectively is free will, even if just due to our ignorance

"Propaganda works best when those who are being manipulated are confident they are acting on their own free will." - Joseph Goebbels by magnora7 in quotes

[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well quoted. I do believe that all deeds perpetrated by those running the farm, are advanced to the point to where any single definable 'point', such as 911, is always built with multiple ways to it, as well as multiple desired/expected results from it.

In so doing it makes it hard to even see what really happened; almost like how a few drops of oil effects calm water.

"Propaganda works best when those who are being manipulated are confident they are acting on their own free will." - Joseph Goebbels by magnora7 in quotes

[–]HeyImSancho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Are you a true will supporter? In many ways I agree with your statement; the inundation of technological media, or even that of the printed word, any of it, can change one's reasoning. The whole any given person claiming original thought, or 'free will'.

Just my opinion, but to gain a degree of free will, takes a lot of life experience, and self reflection. It's not necessarily the distance of the journey(long life), but the consciously acknowledged varieties inputted that aid in free will, or that of true will.

"Myth is much more important and true than history. History is just journalism and you know how reliable that is." ~ Joseph Campbell [Unverified] by JasonCarswell in quotes

[–]Mnemonic 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

He did write about Gnosticism according to his wiki entry, also I do believe I've heard a podcast about his works in that manner some years ago. I remember because by listening I thought his name was spelled 'cambel'.

"Propaganda works best when those who are being manipulated are confident they are acting on their own free will." - Joseph Goebbels by magnora7 in quotes

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Tao Te Ching, Chapter 17

When the Master governs, the people

are hardly aware that he exists.

Next best is a leader who is loved.

Next, one who is feared.

The worst is one who is despised.

If you don't trust the people,

you make them untrustworthy.

The Master doesn't talk, he acts.

When his work is done,

the people say, "Amazing:

we did it, all by ourselves!"

"If Fascism ever comes to America it’ll come in the name of Liberalism." -- Ronald Reagan by sawboss in quotes

[–]sawboss[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

LOW TIER

"If Fascism ever comes to America it’ll come in the name of Liberalism." -- Ronald Reagan by sawboss in quotes

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're welcome to all the opinions you want, as long as you express them in a way that doesn't blatantly violate the pyramid of debate. That's the rules. They apply to everyone.

"If Fascism ever comes to America it’ll come in the name of Liberalism." -- Ronald Reagan by sawboss in quotes

[–]sawboss[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What the fuck is wrong with you? Wait, don't fucking answer because I don't even care. Considering the way you've described your interpretations of me at various times I don't know why I would expect a normal human being to exist behind your screen name.

"If Fascism ever comes to America it’ll come in the name of Liberalism." -- Ronald Reagan by sawboss in quotes

[–]sawboss[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm going to remember that this is the behavior you model for users of this site. Every thread I'll jump in with my own opinion however unwarranted and unsavory. Is that what you want?

"The problem is people are being hated when they are real, and being loved when they are fake" - Bob Marley by magnora7 in quotes

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No, I just claim it. That's the internet. It is already broken, so why give a single fux anymore?

"Secrecy breeds incompetence because where there is failure, failure is kept secret." Julian Assange by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I hope he is doing ok. The media has stopped focusing on him as much. He's still being held in the UK right?

"The problem is people are being hated when they are real, and being loved when they are fake" - Bob Marley by magnora7 in quotes

[–]Oneda 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

What Bob really wanted to say was: People aren't easy to like lol!

Probably why he was always high.

The greatest prison people live in is the fear of what other people think. by The_In-Betweener in quotes

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh.

Fuck.

"The problem is people are being hated when they are real, and being loved when they are fake" - Bob Marley by magnora7 in quotes

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That is funny.

Seems like a strange quote for Lincoln.

Do you know the context?

"If Fascism ever comes to America it’ll come in the name of Liberalism." -- Ronald Reagan by sawboss in quotes

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Because otherwise you will eventually be banned for dragging down discussion on the pyramid of debate, obviously

"If Fascism ever comes to America it’ll come in the name of Liberalism." -- Ronald Reagan by sawboss in quotes

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wonder how many presidents have IMDB pages...

"If Fascism ever comes to America it’ll come in the name of Liberalism." -- Ronald Reagan by sawboss in quotes

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why would it? The control system is working wonderfully for those in control

"If Fascism ever comes to America it’ll come in the name of Liberalism." -- Ronald Reagan by sawboss in quotes

[–]sawboss[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The difference between the two is basically window-dressing at this point.

That's going to change.

"If Fascism ever comes to America it’ll come in the name of Liberalism." -- Ronald Reagan by sawboss in quotes

[–]sawboss[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I can, but why?

"If Fascism ever comes to America it’ll come in the name of Liberalism." -- Ronald Reagan by sawboss in quotes

[–]sawboss[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's pretty asshole-ish of you Mr. Sunflowers.