" That person who helps others simply because it should or must be done, and because it is the right thing to do, is indeed without a doubt, a real superhero. " ~ Stan Lee by JasonCarswell in quotes

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

LOL. When I typed it, I was thinking it was redundant and could be much simpler.

  • simply = self evident
  • it should or must be done = redundant same diff
  • it is the right thing to do = same but different
  • is indeed without a doubt = redundant same diff again
  • real = authentically redundant again

Simplified : " Who ever helps others, as it's the right thing to do, is a superhero. "

" That person who helps others simply because it should or must be done, and because it is the right thing to do, is indeed without a doubt, a real superhero. " ~ Stan Lee by JasonCarswell in quotes

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This quote is extremely awesome in its simplicity!

" That person who helps others simply because it should or must be done, and because it is the right thing to do, is indeed without a doubt, a real superhero. " ~ Stan Lee by JasonCarswell in quotes

[–]d3rr 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Hahha water into ketamine sounds good too. Damnit now I have to check out that movie.

" That person who helps others simply because it should or must be done, and because it is the right thing to do, is indeed without a doubt, a real superhero. " ~ Stan Lee by JasonCarswell in quotes

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Good skills. Lazarus was a neat trick too. He should resurrect himself and save us now. I'd prefer water turned to ketamine. Less needed, might be easier.

Similarly, the Bodhisattva is my super hero. Wish I were so zen. To leave the world, shamanically (not as a priest under "leadership", and not as an astronaut), and to return - transformed as a Buddha.

As far as Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse goes, I finally watched it. I knew it was amazing and procrastinated until I was ready to study it. A decent strong story with a dynamic exploratory vision with an exceptional team to pull it off. Major milestones in groundbreaking animation were achieved on many many levels - from subtle characterizations to compositing design in motion to epic visual grandeur to completely original action and cinematography never seen before.

" That person who helps others simply because it should or must be done, and because it is the right thing to do, is indeed without a doubt, a real superhero. " ~ Stan Lee by JasonCarswell in quotes

[–]d3rr 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Jesus is my fav super hero. His powers include whipping bankers and turning water into wine.

" That person who helps others simply because it should or must be done, and because it is the right thing to do, is indeed without a doubt, a real superhero. " ~ Stan Lee by JasonCarswell in quotes

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

" That person who helps others simply because it should or must be done, and because it is the right thing to do, is indeed without a doubt, a real superhero. " ~ Stan Lee

Closing credits screengrab at 1h48m34s from the 2018 movie, Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse.

Image:
https://infogalactic.com/info/File:Spider-Man_-_Into_the_Spider-Verse_(2018)_snapshot_1h48m34s_(1080p_BluRay_x265).png

Movie:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man:_Into_the_Spider-Verse
https://infogalactic.com/info/Spider-Man:_Into_the_Spider-Verse

“If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on.” Terence McKenna by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I concede the argument; drugs are not addictive. Now, off with you to tell the addicts the good news.

“If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on.” Terence McKenna by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So, heroin isn't addictive and won't make you structure your life around it. Gotcha. Go watch the documentary Trainspotting. Or read any medical textbook.

“If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on.” Terence McKenna by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Uh. It must be easy to find then. Let's see a source.

I know you won't find it, cause you're full of crap. ;-)

“If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on.” Terence McKenna by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

WTF. Heroin makes you lose your free will and structure your life around doing more heroin. As do all addictive drugs.

“If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on.” Terence McKenna by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'm making a prediction, but it sounds like you're confirming my suspicion.

FYI: I'll save this post for future reference.

I look forward to exposing more of your pathetic shilling in the near future.

I also look forward to other people reading your pitiful responses when you get your ass handed to you.

There's no rebuttal to a cheap shot.

Pathetic.
Bye. ;-)

“If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on.” Terence McKenna by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That's one campaign against drugs

It's the most modernly relevant, because its policies are still in practice today. Also, it confesses to one of the prime motivational factors behind the criminalization of drugs.

Also, I'm providing evidence to support my position.

I haven't seen any evidence supporting your nonsense.

addictive drugs were banned in the first place because they rob you of you free will.

Do you have any sources for this nonsense assertion?

I'm close to certain that you don't.

“If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on.” Terence McKenna by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You can read my mind? That's amazing! Can you do it again? Can you tell me what I had for breakfast?

“If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on.” Terence McKenna by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That wasn't banning drugs, which was done when Nixon was a little kid. That's one campaign against drugs.

“If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on.” Terence McKenna by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Look, addictive drugs were banned in the first place because they rob you of you free will.

/u/chipit. WRONG AGAIN, SHILL.

Report: Aide says Nixon's war on drugs targeted blacks, hippies

"You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities," Ehrlichman said. "We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."

The war on drugs was created to attack dissident movements who opposed government overreach.

“If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on.” Terence McKenna by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's difficult to believe that anyone agrees with this foolish comment; supporting state-control of free Americans right to decide what is right for their own body.

No doubt he'll also be shilling for mandatory/forced vaccinations in the near future.

“If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on.” Terence McKenna by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]magnora7 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

If I can buy alcohol, I should be able to buy psychedelics too. I don't see why not. Why should it be harder to get a mushroom than it is to get a gun? Amsterdam has legal psychedelics for sale in stores, it hasn't harmed them a bit.

“If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on.” Terence McKenna by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Dosage also matters. If you take too much LSD you're going to have a very bad time just like if you drink too much alcohol.

“If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on.” Terence McKenna by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Natural- implying? Prohibition? Homosexuality? Slavery?

Please expand if you can. Could our "natural free will", go askew to want to "create free will"?

Or did you mean subsistence, farming and/or governance alone?

Interesting point though! Appreciate you making it :)

“If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on.” Terence McKenna by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]P-38lightning 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I watched a kid in high school on a bad LSD trip back in the 70's. He was never the same. No thanks, I'll stick with cigarettes.

“If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on.” Terence McKenna by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 7 fun4 insightful - 6 fun5 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Before I tried psychedelics I was barely smarter than /u/chipit.

Having tried mushrooms I've almost attained the intellectual sophistication of this monkey.

“If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on.” Terence McKenna by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So we can both agree that some things should be prescribed by a professional rather than sold next to the smokes at a 7/11?

“If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on.” Terence McKenna by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]magnora7 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

They're a powerful tool, and they're not right for everyone. If your mindset is in the right place, and you have a good setting, and there are no other mental health issues, then it can be a very useful thing. But it's not something to be taken lightly, or to party. It's a tool like a chainsaw, and much like a chainsaw it can cut down a tree, or cut your leg off if you're not careful. It's something that deserves respect and caution, but something that is very useful in the right context.

“If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on.” Terence McKenna by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

he Constitution was not founded to create free will. It was founded to protect our natural free will.

The constitution gives congress the right to pass all laws... The Bill of Rights, which are amendments to the original shitty document, were added as amendments, because people knew the original document without the amendments, basically put them back under a feudal system. Also, it's not will, or free will, the Bill of Rights are what many consider the most poignant list our Natural Inalienable Rights. Through these, is truly the only way Any living being can have freedom, or more so self-determination.

Any authoritarian state, which most are, hate self-determination. Their goal is to scare people away from this, and in turn, seek continual approval through the state; which continually changes the bar in any direction necessary to keep the people from finding any sort of solid base, or footing from which to operate autonomously.

“If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on.” Terence McKenna by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]AnarchySpeach 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This is a little off-topic: What are your thoughts on the dangers of psychedelics? The rare incidents of psychosis that can arise.

Sometimes the mental damage can be permanent. Don't get me wrong. They're still way safer than some of the other drugs, but I've seen one bad trip ruin a person for the rest of their life...

“If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on.” Terence McKenna by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]AnarchySpeach 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

It was hurtful and uncalled-for.

From the emotional fallback response it would appear that an apology is an order./s

“If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on.” Terence McKenna by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]AnarchySpeach 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I've had the same thought. Banning Alcohol completely (as we have tried once before) didn't work out. While dangerous, it's not exactly on the same level as heroin or meth.

One possible solution would be the Punch Card method. You're over 21, get a special mark or symbol on your licence, they run it through a computer that tells them how many drinks you have left. Once a month the number resets. Normal people won't notice a difference. Alcoholics will be in a panic after they can't get wasted every day.

A childish idea, maybe, but I think it would help slow down the rampant alcohol addiction that's slowly rising in the country.

“If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on.” Terence McKenna by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Such theatrics! Well, at least you don't have to address the points being made, and that's the important thing. Have a good day.

“If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on.” Terence McKenna by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

It detracts from whatever point you might have made to the point that I don't want to reply to it. Sorry, I'm not going to argue with you. It was hurtful and uncalled-for.

“If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on.” Terence McKenna by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]taylor 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

The Constitution was not founded to create free will. It was founded to protect our natural free will.

“If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on.” Terence McKenna by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]HeyImSancho 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The Bill of Rights was written as an afterthought once the American people told basically, the crown to go fuck off, with their idea that they can pass any law they want.

All the Bill of Rights did was put pen to paper of what already exists; our Inalienable Natural Rights. The proof they exist is that while a mob of NPC's wanting conformity may kill you in exercising them, they cannot stop you.

Aside from that, quotes like this, are showing of an Authoritarian construct; where by all things can be 'socially adapted', or 'changed for the better'..... which is lip service to free things, puppy dogs, and ice cream. The world simply isn't that; anyone believing that is delusional.

“If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on.” Terence McKenna by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]Chipit 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Always a cheap shot at the Declaration of Independence and other things that keep America together. They just love doing it.

“If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on.” Terence McKenna by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]magnora7 7 insightful - 6 fun7 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Yes that's why China banned opium too.

Yet now opium is so over-prescribed in the US to the point it's been classified a health epidemic.

So if you're looking to US law as your moral guide, then you're not really paying attention to what's going on.

Also this guy is talking about psychedelics, not heroin. Most psychedelics have anti-addictive properties, and in fact can help people overcome existing addictions to alcohol and smoking cigarettes, both of which are far more harmful to use on a regular basis, than to use a psychedelic once.

The land of the free, huh?

“If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on.” Terence McKenna by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]Chipit 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Look, addictive drugs were banned in the first place because they rob you of you free will. The same free will that the Constitution was founded to create.

You don't like it, move to Portugal. You can shoot up all you want there.

“We decide something, put it then into the room and wait a while for something to happen. If there is no big shouting and no insurrection because most people do not understand what has been decided, then we go on - step by step until there is no turning back.” -- EU Commission, Jean-Claude Juncker by Chipit in quotes

[–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

the performance of the EU when Farage gave his goodbye speech summed up exactly why the lot of them can fuck off and die, and we will be screaming with schadenfreude when their petty empire collapses around the superior, elitist cunts.

pardon my french.

The EU besmirched the very idea of Europe.

“We decide something, put it then into the room and wait a while for something to happen. If there is no big shouting and no insurrection because most people do not understand what has been decided, then we go on - step by step until there is no turning back.” -- EU Commission, Jean-Claude Juncker by Chipit in quotes

[–]magnora7 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Basically they keep stealing until someone says something. Just like most people in positions of high power. Their lives become about accumulating power for the system they serve, because they view that to be the highest good. Whereas poor people on the ground can see the imbalance so easily.

A few people making a lot of noise can have a big effect, even if just to strike fear that others might start paying attention, sometimes that is all that is needed to make them not steal that particular thing. Authoritarians are all the same. Greedy narcissists, most so deep they don't even realize it.

"Critics are men who watch a battle from a high place then come down and shoot the survivors." - Hemmingway by Vigte in quotes

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hemingway was a left extremist who fought on the side of the socialist, Communists and anarchists; against the fascists.
The FBI spied on him for decades.

Why intellectuals like Hemingway got involved in the Spanish Civil War

The Republicans had elected a Socialist president, and were fighting against a military coup.

The recent Catalonian Independence movement is part of the legacy of the Spanish civil war, and it's being suppressed again by "elected" fascists.

A significant percentage of the Catalan public are anarchists, but you'll never hear that reported anywhere.

I think Hemingway understood something that most of us have been brainwashed into forgetting.

"Critics are men who watch a battle from a high place then come down and shoot the survivors." - Hemmingway by Vigte in quotes

[–]Enza 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I feel bad for Hemmingway. He killed himself because he was depressed (which he didn't realize that on it's own, he could handle), and didn't realize his personal Hell could always burn hotter, and Electroshock Therapy was advertised as the new, true treatment for depression. Obviously he unfortunately didn't put enough thought into (or didn't have the access to research) the potential affects of such therapy, what epileptics go through, the potential affects of seizures (even just one), and what extreme or radical psychological therapies of his near-distant past (such as lobotomies..) resulted in, and what they originally promised to do.. He put way too much trust in doctors; to this day, electroshock therapy is banned in some European countries because the data on it doing more harm than good is sketchy at best, and everyone's brain is unique.

After receiving his first induced-seizure, he was never the same, and this is what lead to him killing himself. Seizures and epilepsy are very stigmatized and misunderstood:

"Ernest Hemingway, an American author, died by suicide shortly after ECT at the Mayo Clinic in 1961.[127] He is reported to have said to his biographer, "Well, what is the sense of ruining my head and erasing my memory, which is my capital, and putting me out of business? It was a brilliant cure but we lost the patient."

The feeling of his "capital", or his mental faculties being taken from him, is a symptom (short or long-term) of the postictal state after a seizure. Regardless of who he was or what he did, no living being deserves to experience that state of being, and so strongly that it pushes them to suicide.

"Critics are men who watch a battle from a high place then come down and shoot the survivors." - Hemmingway by Vigte in quotes

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

So at a bikini contest, women are their own worst enemies?

"Critics are men who watch a battle from a high place then come down and shoot the survivors." - Hemmingway by Vigte in quotes

[–]Vigte[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Not far from the truth of the human future, really

I'll make sure your amendment to Hemmingway gets proper citation!

"Critics are men who watch a battle from a high place then come down and shoot the survivors." - Hemmingway by Vigte in quotes

[–]beermeem 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Critics are women.

"Critics are men who watch a battle from a high place then come down and shoot the survivors." - Hemmingway by Vigte in quotes

[–]beermeem 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.”

Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.

"Critics are men who watch a battle from a high place then come down and shoot the survivors." - Hemmingway by Vigte in quotes

[–]beermeem 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

He would know. He fought in wars, killed himself, had very fuckable daughters, and remains the only American writer worth a shit besides Ellis.

"Critics are men who watch a battle from a high place then come down and shoot the survivors." - Hemmingway by Vigte in quotes

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

"Analysts are men that watch many battles, but fight to achieve victory without shooting"

~S0m Qu0te dude lol

"The two big mistakes were: the belief in a sky god -- that there's a man in the sky with 10 things he doesn't want you to do and you'll burn for a long time if you do them -- and private property, which I think is at the core of our failure as a species." George Carlin by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The point is that they tried to take care of the world before they took care of themselves.

We can't take care of everyone. Take care of those we know, at home. That's the lesson of the socialist collective.

"The two big mistakes were: the belief in a sky god -- that there's a man in the sky with 10 things he doesn't want you to do and you'll burn for a long time if you do them -- and private property, which I think is at the core of our failure as a species." George Carlin by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]uiop 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's a really interesting article, thanks for sharing. I'm confused though, did they just accept and care for everybody who wanted a home, without making them contribute in any way? That's how it sounds, but it seems like a pretty obvious design flaw. It's one thing for society at large to support the few people who legitimately can't hold a job, but supporting anyone who asks without question is just begging to be taken advantage of.

As far as your post, though... Yes, things are better for humanity than they've ever been, but that doesn't mean humans aren't cruel (on the other hand, we're more or less the only species with a sense of morality in the first place, but that's beside the point). And it sounds like the Farm failed because it didn't account for the resources it would take to support all those people, not because it tried to support them at all. Theoretically the money should come from the people who have way more than they need, not the people who can only afford noodles and oranges on Christmas.

"The two big mistakes were: the belief in a sky god -- that there's a man in the sky with 10 things he doesn't want you to do and you'll burn for a long time if you do them -- and private property, which I think is at the core of our failure as a species." George Carlin by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]AnarchySpeach 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You can't help people who won't help themselves. A lot of mental illness, despite all of our medicine, can't be cured. Pills mask the symptoms, bring most to a baseline reality, but at the end of the day we can't force those pills down their throats.

Some of those people don't wanna be saved. Is it cruel to let them spazz out on the streets? Sure. Sure it is. Where the hell are we supposed to put them? Even if we lock all of them up, in their own special little rooms, and you magically find all the free money to pay for this, who gets to decide who gets in? Who chooses who gets the "luxury" of getting locked up? The average shrink can't tell the difference between a crazy person and a politician.

Despite all of that... what stops someone, taking their pills, from asking to leave? Do we just keep them there when they show improvement? There's no way to prevent them from stopping their medication once they leave this utopian prison cell. If they're non-violent there's really nothing we can legally do to hold them there against their will.

The hard truth is that half of those people on the streets are there because they chose to be.

The other half lack the education to pull themselves out of the gutter and into a decent job. I've known people who've lived paycheck to paycheck living in their car. None of them are there because they want to be. They're there because there's nowhere left for them to go.

It's not like the golden days where you'd get a job and you'd work there for 40 years. Those days are over.

Todays generation needs easier access to education. Needs less forced debt. Needs a military that isn't preying on the desperate.

Before we can dream of any of that we have to understand not all of those people can be saved. Mistakes were made. We have to accept that. Own up to it. Move on to fixing the problem instead of randomly accusing lucky people of the crime of being successful.

Woodrow Wilson quote, "I am a most unhappy man..." by JasonCarswell in quotes

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good question.

That's why I included my source who tells his tale, but he showed no proof, YET - AND I included the misattribution link.

I've "misquoted" others on purpose too, but I was more obvious about it then.

"The two big mistakes were: the belief in a sky god -- that there's a man in the sky with 10 things he doesn't want you to do and you'll burn for a long time if you do them -- and private property, which I think is at the core of our failure as a species." George Carlin by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]Chipit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Things are better for the entire human race than they've been ever in human history. Yes, even the homeless.

Wait, I've got something for you to read. It's about a group of people just like you, who went and formed a society in which they lived the values that you preach. They welcomed anyone who needed a home, and didn't handle money for years at a time. It's totally worth the read. http://pastebin.com/F0WGGewg

"The two big mistakes were: the belief in a sky god -- that there's a man in the sky with 10 things he doesn't want you to do and you'll burn for a long time if you do them -- and private property, which I think is at the core of our failure as a species." George Carlin by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]Chipit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is such surface-level thinking. You can't just take the homeless and put them in these houses. They'd trash them. Piss on the carpets, take a sledgehammer to the porcelain commodes, kick holes in the walls. Then where would we be?

You want the whole country to be like San Francisco? Shit on the streets, needles everywhere, honest citizens can't walk down the street without crazy people screaming at them. Wait, don't answer this one.

Woodrow Wilson quote, "I am a most unhappy man..." by JasonCarswell in quotes

[–]DffrntDrmmr 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"The two big mistakes were: the belief in a sky god -- that there's a man in the sky with 10 things he doesn't want you to do and you'll burn for a long time if you do them -- and private property, which I think is at the core of our failure as a species." George Carlin by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]EndlessSunflowers[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Thinking this morning about the millions of homeless and hurting humans,
and the millions of empty houses - with locks and fences and gates and Do Not Enter signs

"A bore is someone who deprives you of solitude without providing you with company." - Oscar Wilde by magnora7 in quotes

[–]hennaojisan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It was intended as a joke when I heard it and that was the way the teller intended it.

"A bore is someone who deprives you of solitude without providing you with company." - Oscar Wilde by magnora7 in quotes

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Who says that? Fifty seems like a lot, even to me. Maybe not to gay guys I guess. And what does fifty count? I'm not even sure of what defines "sex".

"A bore is someone who deprives you of solitude without providing you with company." - Oscar Wilde by magnora7 in quotes

[–]hennaojisan 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They say a few times is exploration but more that fifty is a commitment. I don;t know where I was going with that topic but thanks for the options. How about yours for Tokyo Olympics with four people throwing away the cookie cutter and planning a trip of your own that does not include 20,000 trained guides who speak Engllish. Not necessarily illegal but something different.Thanks for helping me out of a tight corner. The computer has been drinking. r.

"A bore is someone who deprives you of solitude without providing you with company." - Oscar Wilde by magnora7 in quotes

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Consenting adults should be free. Consenting adults with inanimate objects should be free too, but maybe get therapists if it becomes a social problem (ie. always humping mud or apple pies or sniffing shoes in public).

There's no shortage of photos animals humping/raping other species. I'd say consenting species..., but that's a grey line I don't even want to come close to with a thousand foot pole. I wouldn't care so much about the snarl if I suspected there were fewer beastie people than trans people, ie. extremely rare and fringe - but I couldn't say or even guess if this is true. People in general too often let me down.

Crossing that big grey line to other things, like kids, is IMO way over the line.

I understand how some might find all fetishes a big ugly mess, but they are not all automatically related and there are distinctions. Gay men may be different but may not be into boys, or animals, or being fem - though a minority may be. And there's a huge difference between being curious a few times and being "gay" as a lifelong identity.

Rahm Emmanuel, Mayor of Chicago describes the Democrat philosophy: ""We congenitally believe that our motives are pure and our goals are right. Therefore, we should win by default." by Chipit in quotes

[–]jamesK_3rd 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That should be former mayor.

I think Lori Lightfoot or something similar is the current mayor.

That being said, it's hard to grasp just how arrogant Rahm was.

"A bore is someone who deprives you of solitude without providing you with company." - Oscar Wilde by magnora7 in quotes

[–]hennaojisan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

His "crimes" were not considered legal in most countries until the late twentieth century and in some cases are still illegal. The next big wall to fall in this area is to make beastiality legal, if you can prove no animals were harmed during the video. This is one prickly legal snarl I am sure many are waiting for the snarl to be unraveled. If anyone is wondering, there is human to animal sex (beastiality) online and easily found but I have not in fact watched. This is one sexual fetish I am against on asthetic and other grounds. Assuming it is illegal in fact, how can it be online? Does anyeone want to click the links and tell us.

Rahm Emmanuel, Mayor of Chicago describes the Democrat philosophy: ""We congenitally believe that our motives are pure and our goals are right. Therefore, we should win by default." by Chipit in quotes

[–]d3rr 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Ahh pure motives and goals from birth, that sounds nice.

"If equal affection cannot be, let the more loving one be me." W.H. Auden by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"A bore is someone who deprives you of solitude without providing you with company." - Oscar Wilde by magnora7 in quotes

[–]Myrkskog 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'd say it depends on how it's broken.

"A bore is someone who deprives you of solitude without providing you with company." - Oscar Wilde by magnora7 in quotes

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It is an ego trip to hate someone who breaks your solitude.

"A bore is someone who deprives you of solitude without providing you with company." - Oscar Wilde by magnora7 in quotes

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

The later part of his life was tragic.

I guess the curtains were pretty bad too.

"A bore is someone who deprives you of solitude without providing you with company." - Oscar Wilde by magnora7 in quotes

[–]Myrkskog 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why hate...? I'm assuming it was rhetorical. I'm afraid my intellect isn't developed enough to be able to digest philosophical thoughts, statements, musings, etc, beyond the surface meaning. I have briefly read some Nietzsche, at a friends house, while waiting for him and his wife to get ready to go out. I must admit it didn't make much sense to me. But why hate? Would you be questioning it if he said love instead? I find both words are over-used to the point of lacking the true intention and feeling. With regard to that exact quote, it brought an amorphous, nebulous, vague direction of thought/feeling I had held and matched it to words that my monkey brain could understand.

"A bore is someone who deprives you of solitude without providing you with company." - Oscar Wilde by magnora7 in quotes

[–]hennaojisan 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

That quote is also a quote by Oscar Wilde. His last words were supposed to have been: either those curtains go or I go.

"A bore is someone who deprives you of solitude without providing you with company." - Oscar Wilde by magnora7 in quotes

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It should be, what one tries to resist.

"A bore is someone who deprives you of solitude without providing you with company." - Oscar Wilde by magnora7 in quotes

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why hate? Nietzsche is the atheistic existentionalist of which the religious Kierkegaard created. I never could get into Nietzsche because he had an ego that overtook his writing, whereas Kierkegaard was subtle in his explanation of the trivial things but hit you hard with the spiritual and moral issues of a persons being.

“I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this—who will count the votes, and how." Joseph Stalin - Chapter 5: "Memoirs of Stalin's Former Secretary," published in 1980, Paris by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]Popper 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

why out of power though. He wanted russia to spread worldwide socialism, stalin believed in socialism in one country. They supported some east erupe countries and cuba and such but Trotsky rightly predicted capitalist countries would bribe russian leaders and corruption would bring the country to ruin.

"A bore is someone who deprives you of solitude without providing you with company." - Oscar Wilde by magnora7 in quotes

[–]Myrkskog 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Reminds me of the following Nietzsche quote...

“My solitude doesn’t depend on the presence or absence of people; on the contrary, I hate who steals my solitude without, in exchange, offering me true company.”

Struck a chord in me when I saw it many years ago.

"A bore is someone who deprives you of solitude without providing you with company." - Oscar Wilde by magnora7 in quotes

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Temptation is the one thing I cannot resist

As he proceeds to tear-down in front of his buddies, cause he was bored.

“I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this—who will count the votes, and how." Joseph Stalin - Chapter 5: "Memoirs of Stalin's Former Secretary," published in 1980, Paris by EndlessSunflowers in quotes

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He never said that. ONE REAL QUOTE IS by I believe the mother who said something about her sons funding wars.