When Everything Is A Conspiracy - Then What? by Vigte in conspiracy

[–]swordofdamocles42 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

everyone should sub to this channel.... matt is the cutting edge of conspiracy

When Everything Is A Conspiracy - Then What? by Vigte in conspiracy

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The tradgic reality for most Americans is nothing is a conspiracy; except for whatever those Russians are up to...

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[–]Zahn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Those things will happen organically and don't have to be forced or contrived. Also, it's a concern that the average easily offended pro-censorship Redditor dragging down the quality of the content and conversation...I mean, really if you haven't left Reddit by now......

Reminder of the rules of The Internet and society in general in 2020: by teelo in conspiracy

[–]volvo 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Ok incel

Reminder of the rules of The Internet and society in general in 2020: by teelo in conspiracy

[–]AnarchySpeach 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Asians are only "people of colour" if the black person making the argument requires larger numbers to prove their point. In all other circumstances, asians are considered white people who exist to oppress black people through sheer majority.

Learn something new everyday.

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[–]XOXO_HandBanana_XOXO 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I saw this website mentioned on Reddit and immediately made an account. I didn't know this site existed. So, this website could certainly use some promotion.

I think one other think that would help with website is the creation of all the specialized subs that Reddit has. Right now, there are some generic subs, but no subs about a specific topic. For example, there is a gaming sub, but no World of Warships or CS:GO sub. Getting people to at least start up some of these subs would go a long way to expanding this sites longevity.

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[–]proc0 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Control = Insecurity

Insecurity = Fear

Fear = Weakness

Strong minded people have no need to worry about what others think, as it has no effect. Weaklings fear the worst and so strive to control and manipulate those who they fear.

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[–]teelo 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How long until they start permabanning users who upvote posts on saidit?

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[–]AnarchySpeach 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It might. Accounts we make promoting saidit would no doubt get banned swiftly under this regime. While I am reluctant to organize a promotional squad I think reddit users should be aware that alternatives exist.

I am also worried about how many new users saidit can handle.

Don't share your personal info. Use Utopia p2p for online privacy. by Hrusk in conspiracy

[–]internet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

use honeypot B, not honeypot A

thanks, OP

Alex Jones speaking about Council for National Policy by Vigte in conspiracy

[–]Vigte[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The videos being played in the stream:

Part 1, Part 2 and Part 3

Don't share your personal info. Use Utopia p2p for online privacy. by Hrusk in conspiracy

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Forkin' hell!

Don't share your personal info. Use Utopia p2p for online privacy. by Hrusk in conspiracy

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"Hands behind your head!" the thought police said before cuffing him.

If it's for free then you're the product (your personal data) that they sell to other buyers.

But since there's a whole crypto rewards system then they have another scheme going.

Don't share your personal info. Use Utopia p2p for online privacy. by Hrusk in conspiracy

[–]la_cues 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Didn't you read the comic? Look at how content the guy using Utopia P2P® is.

Don't share your personal info. Use Utopia p2p for online privacy. by Hrusk in conspiracy

[–]j6h3Z801n 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I like the feel of this project, and will give it a shot in a torified VM. But their reasoning for not open sourcing their code worries me a bit. They say they are afraid of forks of the project. Hopefully they will open source after/if it becomes popular.

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[–]Lunaari 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

This is literal thoughtcrime now.

"Oh you agree with this? Ban!"

Don't share your personal info. Use Utopia p2p for online privacy. by Hrusk in conspiracy

[–]Tururyn748 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

and what about mobile app? i wanna use it on my phone too. cool app thnx to developers!

Don't share your personal info. Use Utopia p2p for online privacy. by Hrusk in conspiracy

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

How can I trust dys Utopia that sounds too good to be true!? If it's for free does that mean I'm the product?

Don't share your personal info. Use Utopia p2p for online privacy. by Hrusk in conspiracy

[–]Drewski 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

The last thing I want is to let anyone to steal my data. I know I can trust an obscure communications client by an unknown team that is closed source and has never been security audited. Thanks Utopia!

Don't share your personal info. Use Utopia p2p for online privacy. by Hrusk in conspiracy

[–]LymeBorr 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, now my personal information and data will be safe and no one can steal them! Thanks to the developers.

'EVERYONE IS ON VIDEOTAPE': Alleged Epstein pimp's bold boast, Ghislaine Maxwell by salvia_d in conspiracy

[–]Vigte 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I actually just posted something linking her father to 9/11. Yeah, I was kind of shocked too.

That family is way deeper than thought.

Black 9/11: Money, Motive, Technology, and Plausible Deniability by Vigte in conspiracy

[–]Vigte[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A lot you probably know - and a lot you probably don't.

What is most interesting to me - is the bonds mentioned in the beginning, that were used to finance the downfall of the USSR - and were coming due. The process of verification and ownership would have revealed a bit too much about what happened in 1991 (and before... and since...).

More on Project Hammer/Black Eagle here

"What the public record suggests is that with the beginning of the first Bush Presidency in 1989, George H.W. Bush initiated a programme of covert economic warfare to bring about the collapse of the Soviet Union. The name of this programme appears to be Project Hammer - a multi-billion dollar covert operation, whose investments remain shielded."

Ok...

"Numerous sources have documented that at the end of World War II, the treasury of the Japanese Empire was discovered in the Philippines by Edward Lansdale a member of the staff of General Charles Willoughby, who was General MacArthur’️s chief of Intelligence. Lansdale and Severino Garcia Diaz Santa Romana tortured Major Kojima Kashii, General Yamashita Tomoyuki’️s driver, until he revealed the sites of the gold. Then known as the "Golden Lily Treasure", this mass of wealth had been accumulated by the Japanese over fifty years from the pillaging of Southeast Asia and China by its army and had been deposited in the Philippines due to the U.S. submarine blockade of Japan. Reports vary, but documents in the public domain suggest the recovered treasure was in excess of 280,000 metric tonnes of gold."

Yikes... everyone talks about nazi gold, but never Imperial Gold, eh?

"The covert operations funded by the Black Eagle Trust in the 1960s and 1970s became visible stains on the global image of the U.S. despite all efforts to keep them under cover."

"Meantime Ferdinand Marcos, the pro-U.S. dictator of the Philippines, continued to discover even more of the buried treasure. and had started to sell it on the market during the 1970s with the assistance of *Adnan Khashoggi. US Intelligence operations had been siphoning off the gold for three decades. However in 1986 Vice President George Bush took over the gold from Marcos and the gold was removed to a series of banks, notably Citibank, Chase Manhattan, Hong Kong Shanghai Banking Corporation, UBS and Banker’️s Trust, and held in a depository in Kloten Switzerland. What happened to the Marcos gold after it was confiscated by U.S. agents in 1986 has never been reported, but throughout the early 1990s, the world gold market would be befuddled by the mysterious appearance of thousands of tonnes of gold which appeared to suppress the price of gold."

"In South east Asia operations were financed through Nugan Hand Bank in Australia which would be one of the many banks used for transferring the Marcos gold from the Philippines into covert operations. Frank Nugan’️s family ran the primary supply shipping operation between the U.S. Navy base in the Philippines and Australia. Frank Nugan's business partner, Peter Abeles, and Henry Keswick, together with Canadian businessman Peter Munk, would link with Adnan Kashoggi, Sheikh Kamal and Edgar Bronfmann in a series of operations which ultimately would evolve into Barrick Gold."

Kashioggi and Bronfmann - yeah the NXVIM girl's father... and the uncle of the guy everyone was so upset about a while ago. CNP and secret right operatives - which explains why Bronfman is linked to Alex Jones - same team ;)

It appears that in September 1991, George H.W. Bush and Alan Greenspan did indeed finance $240 billion in bonds in a buy-out of the Soviet Unionas part of a broader programme to attack the economy of the Soviet Union. In addition President George H.W. Bush had initiated a number of related covert operations to take over certain sectors of the Soviet economy,

Makes sense...

The covert business dealings with the Iranians and Israelis which originated with Kashoggi and Kimche in July 1980 in Hamburg under the October Surprise arrangement, would provide an opening to the Soviet KGB that would allow the U.S. to fund a coup against Gorbachev in 1991. It would grow into a larger covert operation over the years, and be overshadowed by the larger Iran-Contra operation.

All CNP members and operations.

"These soon-to-be Russian oligarchs had been set-up as front men by KGB Generals Aleksey (Alexei) Kondaurov; and Fillipp Bobkov, who previously reported to Victor Cherbrikov, who worked with Robert Maxwella British financial mogul, an Israeli secret service agent, and a representative of U.S. intelligence interests, who had been introduced to George Bush in 1976 by Senator Tower for the sole purpose of using Maxwell as an intermediary between Bush and the Soviet Intelligence. Maxwell assisted Cherbrikov in selling military weaponry to Iran and the Nicaraguan Contras during the course of the Iran Contra deals, and made hundreds of millions of dollars available to Cherbrikovs Russian banks."

More CNP people and CNP operations. Oh, I'm sorry, you thought Maxwell was an operative of the left? Oh... yeah no...

"Shortly before the attempted coup of 1991, Maxwell met Kruchkov on Maxwell's private yacht. Shortly afterwards, Maxwell died mysteriously on his yacht while Senator Tower died in a plane crash under suspicious circumstances in April of 1991."

The outcome?

It was the rapid rotation of the securities settlement fails in the aftermath of September 11th that appears to have allowed the Bank of New York and the Federal Reserve to engage in a securities refinancing that resulted in the American taxpayer refinancing the $240 billion originally used for the Great Ruble Scam.

The reports published by the Federal Reserve argue that the Federal Reserves actions increasing the monetary supply by over $300 billion were justified to overcome operational difficulties in the financial sector.

Today I learned that Heather O'Rourke, the little girl from Steven Spielberg's "Poltergeist", officially died of "infection caused by a ruptured bowel" after filming Poltergeist III. Again, she died of rectal trauma at the ripe old age of 12. Spielberg flew on Epstein's jet. by Chipit in conspiracy

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed, except the last part.

Chronic constipation, possibly medically induced, or worse things - we can't ever know what happened, but I wouldn't count him in or out without more evidence. There's more to the story.

Spielberg is certainly no stranger to stretching and twisting the truth for his propaganda.

Today I learned that Heather O'Rourke, the little girl from Steven Spielberg's "Poltergeist", officially died of "infection caused by a ruptured bowel" after filming Poltergeist III. Again, she died of rectal trauma at the ripe old age of 12. Spielberg flew on Epstein's jet. by Chipit in conspiracy

[–]Chipit[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's very unusual for that to happen without any issues presenting beforehand.

But add up the facts that:

  1. she was a very pretty, platinum blonde little girl.

  2. Steven Spielberg, a known Lolita Express passenger, spotted her and took to her right away.

  3. She starred in three Poltergeists.

  4. This was an age when children were regularly left alone with Hollywood pedophiles for a whole day, with no cell phones or internet.

  5. Just look at the photo of them together. Why is he touching her and having her sit there? Who is he, Joe Biden?

  6. She mysteriously dies from injuries consistent with being violently fucked up the ass.

Hollywood pedophiles don't get the benefit of the doubt.

Today I learned that Heather O'Rourke, the little girl from Steven Spielberg's "Poltergeist", officially died of "infection caused by a ruptured bowel" after filming Poltergeist III. Again, she died of rectal trauma at the ripe old age of 12. Spielberg flew on Epstein's jet. by Chipit in conspiracy

[–]Jesus 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

She died from cardiac arrest and septic shock caused by an intestinal stenosis, the latter could have been caused by a host of different malignancies.

Despite my distaste for Spielberg and his propaganda films, I don't think she was raped.

It Wasn't Muslims by Jesus in conspiracy

[–]d3rr 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Very juicy and information rich, nice.

You can't make this shit up. Here is an example of what corporate mainstream media is pushing: "Iraq Needs Regime Change Again" by salvia_d in conspiracy

[–]AnarchySpeach 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

To play devil's advocate:

If we could control it we can exploit them, boost the profits of the middle class here in America, and the neglectection won't be as bad.

The Truth: As we all know, nothing is ever that simple, and the increased terrorist response against us will result in more freedoms being infringed upon to "protect us" from the hornet nest the politicians kicked. While I personally don't think the honey is worth the trouble, those in the business sector would disagree.

Screw Lionel, who spoke at a 9/11 truth conference just a few months ago begging 9/11 cover-up criminal Rudy Giuliani to run for mayor of NYC again. by Jesus in conspiracy

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And if you did not know Max "Crypto" Kaiser also tweeted a few months ago his advocation for Trump. These fuckers talk out of their asses and then shit on you. They will completely say one thing and believe the opposite. Do not fall for the alternative media scene.

You can't make this shit up. Here is an example of what corporate mainstream media is pushing: "Iraq Needs Regime Change Again" by salvia_d in conspiracy

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"Hey guys, what if we like just controlled the whole middle east using our giant military? Let's do that for 30 years while neglecting our systemic domestic problems entirely." - US Mainstream Media, owned by the Military-Industrial Complex

List of American federal politicians convicted of crimes - Wikipedia by Vigte in conspiracy

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

All of them.

Oh, wait. It says, "convicted". I thought it said, "guilty, secretly or otherwise".

CIA Whistleblower Agee: US Terrorism Of Cuba by salvia_d in conspiracy

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Neither does capitalism.

CIA Whistleblower Agee: US Terrorism Of Cuba by salvia_d in conspiracy

[–]Popper 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"socialism never works!"

Musical Cult Control | Medical Veritas Inc. by macadoum in conspiracy

[–]macadoum[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Never heard of this 440hz conspiracy before.

Thanks to u/swordofdamocles42 for the discovery (via Conspiracy Music Guru, who made an entire album in 432Hz).

CIA Link to Cuban Pig Virus Reported [This article originally appeared in The San Francisco Chronicle, January 10, 1977.] by salvia_d in conspiracy

[–]taylor 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I remember reading about how Fidel claimed the US was unleashing bioweapons on Cuba.

Surely the US government would never do such a thing to China!

Strange that there is a H5N1 outbreak right now among chickens in China, at the same time as the coronavirus shit.

The FBI's Sloppy FISA Surveillance Is Exposed by yaboihenry5678 in conspiracy

[–]mikipika 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The elite corrupt are now quibbling. "You!" "No you!" So sick of them and MSM. If only enough people say "No tax revenue for you!"

Your Modern Conspiracy Theoretician Federal Reserve, Illuminati, Jesuits Control the World Peddlers are Nincompoops. REAL History from the account of archives... by Jesus in conspiracy

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's the JEWS; no not really. Shylocks? Some, but it is all in public archives and unfortunately nobosy cares to read it. There is also books published in the 19th century about all of this information, freely available on amazon by scholarly review and yet nearly anyone, if at all, pirchases them for reading.

What does that say about our current knowledge of history? It can only get worse if people choose to stay ignorant and perpeutate the myths and systems in place.

Your Modern Conspiracy Theoretician Federal Reserve, Illuminati, Jesuits Control the World Peddlers are Nincompoops. REAL History from the account of archives... by Jesus in conspiracy

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You've been lied to by conspiracy theorists who sell books and forget to check public archives. What is listed about is a real conspiracy, and ahould be food for thought for these book peddlers, why not use this publically available information?

If the fathers of the FED and modern banking schemes were advocates of greenbacks would it not be odd to you that conspiracy peddlers who pretend to expose these banking schemes are promoting the very same schemes by lying and creating criminals into heroes?

Switzerland halts rollout of 5G over health concerns by salvia_d in conspiracy

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Of course, its the same principle; but I am a little lost on what you mean now. In terms of cellular damage, a block of wood isn't the same complexity as the autonomic or central nervous system. Heat dissipation would also be a different mechanism for those two things since their physiology would be tailored to their differing functions. Iono? ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Switzerland halts rollout of 5G over health concerns by salvia_d in conspiracy

[–]Horrux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because they have DIRECT DEMOCRACY.

Switzerland halts rollout of 5G over health concerns by salvia_d in conspiracy

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Those are all good points, but even a block of wood will dissipate heat through conduction and convection

Switzerland halts rollout of 5G over health concerns by salvia_d in conspiracy

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Right but within the nervous system; heat dissipation relies upon various thermo-regulatory mechanisms like sweating, evaporation and circulatory functions. People who cannot dissipate heat properly are in danger of getting a heat stroke or heat-exhaustion leading to further complications. The cause of heat dissipation dysfunction usually involves something along the lines of nerve damage, dehydration, or skin damage/genetic predisposations.

Those causes of thermoregulatory dysfunction is what I labeled in the abstract sense as "grounding issues". Hence if the possibility of ameliorating those "grounding" issues for thermoregulatory dysfunction could be addressed then you may be able to survive in a higher frequency environment, if that makes sense. There needs to be a parallel solution on the side over time basically.

if CIA are willing to kidnap children and distribute drugs in its own homeland then distributing a dangerous virus in another country to destroy their economy doesn't sound too far fetched by Dark_Vs_Light in conspiracy

[–]taylor 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I never thought about this specific scenario, but it would probably be the best way to go about doing this. I just assumed that the CIA had something to do with it. The US stands to gain the most from this virus. China is ruined for decades, if not generations. This virus pretty much guarantees Trump a win in the trade war, kills China's economy and reputation, and ensures China won't take over the US economically or militarily anytime soon. And this is before we even know the entire truth of what's happening on the ground there.

One thing I find to be super suspicious is that as soon as Coronavirus breaks out, the US government arrests like 5 people with illegal connections to China: Harvard professor and chair of genetic department; Chinese students in the US including one PLA member; a Raytheon engineer who was allegedly selling US missile secrets to China; two Chinese students who were taking pics of a military base; charging Huawei with racketeering and threatening to sanction any other country who does business with Huawei.

All of these within a month of the virus breaking out. No way this is a coincidence.

if CIA are willing to kidnap children and distribute drugs in its own homeland then distributing a dangerous virus in another country to destroy their economy doesn't sound too far fetched by Dark_Vs_Light in conspiracy

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Agree completely, we have to take the good along with the bad, but still keep our eyes on where we're trying to go. Things aren't so bad, but they could always be better.

if CIA are willing to kidnap children and distribute drugs in its own homeland then distributing a dangerous virus in another country to destroy their economy doesn't sound too far fetched by Dark_Vs_Light in conspiracy

[–]FormosaOolong 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh dear, I didn't mean to be or sound dismissive, thank you for pointing it out! I think it comes down to the fact that I see everything as an Us, in the sense that the goods/bads/neutrals are all part of one, let's say, organism. You are entirely correct that it is important to keep the inclusive totality in mind, and not fall into despair about the destructive bits. While it is also important to recognize and identify the destructive forces, we can't resolve those unless and until we recognize our power and capacity to do so. And encourage the collective being to honor and support its strong fighters, rather than persecute them and put them into places like Belmarsh.

if CIA are willing to kidnap children and distribute drugs in its own homeland then distributing a dangerous virus in another country to destroy their economy doesn't sound too far fetched by Dark_Vs_Light in conspiracy

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I see what you mean and I agree. However at the same time, there are people who have literally given their lives to try and correct this sort of thing. Lots of and lots of people, in fact. And by saying "we don't care" you're dismissing the very hard work and effort that millions have already put in to this, to try and correct it, just because you're not seeing the outcome you prefer. It comes across as a bit dismissive of past struggles, tbh, almost stated as if we've just invented the concept of standing up for morals, haha. That's all I mean.

if CIA are willing to kidnap children and distribute drugs in its own homeland then distributing a dangerous virus in another country to destroy their economy doesn't sound too far fetched by Dark_Vs_Light in conspiracy

[–]FormosaOolong 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're right. I say "we" though in the sense that humans have been, for millennia, wittingly or unwittingly, educating each other into accepting more and more atrocious, unrealistic, deluded concepts and ways of being. Most of us can't even see actual Reality anymore, and don't know that the thoughts and ideas in our heads are not even ours. I say "we" in the sense that we all bear some responsibility (and I don't mean blame here) for those terrible few having grabbed the reins, for their wrong ideas having usurped our perceptions, and for their ongoingly horrible actions continuing to become more horrible.

If we don't recognize our collective part in it, how will we ever stop the crap? It's kind of like, imo, a body system's white blood cells have to recognize not only the pathogen, but their innate capacity to go out and overcome it. And it's sad when the WBCs get so tired of fighting on every front that they are no longer able to hold the viruses and parasites at bay.

Switzerland halts rollout of 5G over health concerns by salvia_d in conspiracy

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Dissipation relies upon grounding.

No, not electrical dissipation. Heat dissipation. Once the EMF has been absorbed by the body, it's heat, not voltage. EMF generally does not induce static voltages in the body.

if CIA are willing to kidnap children and distribute drugs in its own homeland then distributing a dangerous virus in another country to destroy their economy doesn't sound too far fetched by Dark_Vs_Light in conspiracy

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"We" don't. Don't blame humanity as a whole for the actions of a terrible few, imo.

if CIA are willing to kidnap children and distribute drugs in its own homeland then distributing a dangerous virus in another country to destroy their economy doesn't sound too far fetched by Dark_Vs_Light in conspiracy

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You present an entirely plausible scenario. It's unbelievably sad to think we allow ourselves to behave in ever more horrific ways like this.

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It doesn't sound far fetched at all, sadly. That there exist humans who lack the central innate ethical core that should stop anyone anywhere from doing and developing things like this, is what I find absolutely confounding.

There are things we simply should never mess with, and bioweapons are high on that list.

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As long as the heat can be easily dissipated it's not a problem. Or if the frequencies are such that they don't interact with the human body much at all, or if they do, the amount of energy absorbed can easily be dissipated quickly as heat.

Dissipation relies upon grounding. If excessive energy is introduced in a short period via frequencies then it could burn out the ground wire, or if not grounded; then damage will result due to the alterations and buildup. The nervous system behaves in a similar fashion, but sedentary lifestyles are not the panacea. That being said, there are ways around this issue in other unique ways. I wouldn't completely discredit this, but rather simulate it better to the point of it being a solution in the real world; before implementation.

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Heat is not the problem.
The plasma inside the cells are reacting to the electromagnetic waves.
Like a grape in a microwave.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCrtk-pyP0I

The ions are conducting the electricity, which causes the enormous radiant plasma. The plasma inside the cells are ions contained in water and have a far less violent reaction.

In studies, we can indeed see that ions are pushed through membranes inside the cell, and are able to damage the cell. But this is only the surface of all the biochemistry that happening inside cells and the body.

These hazards are not looked at by standards that were introduced by the navy, that used big radar systems that made some people get radar-injuries. That way the injuries seemed avoided. These standards were never changed to deal with bio-electrochemistry and long term exposure.

For peer reviewed research and other info see: http://www.microwavenews.com

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The thing I don't like about 5G is how many more antenna stations are needed, which means your physical proximity to one is much more likely to be close. Power absorbed drops with the inverse square of distance, if you half the distance it quadruples the power that hits your body.

And I've been reading lately that also because of the large number of antennas it can be used to generate physical location maps that can see through walls, even if you don't have a phone or anything! It can use beam-forming for the 5G electromagnetic waves, and scan a 3D area for solidity in real-time, so it can see dense materials vs non-dense materials, and locate movement as well. And it can do that even if you have no electronics on you at all. Like some kind of giant CT scan.

That's a level of invasiveness I'm not comfortable with.

And that's not even mentioning the potential health consequences of adding even more frequencies to the mix. If any of the frequencies have resonance with any molecular bond in the human body, it will cause non-ionizing heating, aka vibration. Just like when you microwave food. The only question is how much is absorbed, and does the absorption outpace the rate at which the heat can dissipate. If the answer is no, then over a long enough time, it can cause burns. This is why people aren't allowed to spend more than 6 hours a day in an MRI machine. There was once a case of a sedated patient having his exposed legs crossed and it created a closed circuit and the inside of his legs melted after a 3-hour MRI scan from absorbing the electromagnetic energy, just like a microwave.

As long as the heat can be easily dissipated it's not a problem. Or if the frequencies are such that they don't interact with the human body much at all, or if they do, the amount of energy absorbed can easily be dissipated quickly as heat. However if there's a slow build-up of heat over the long-term in a way that can't easily be dissipated, then it can cause over-heating which can cause damage or even light burns in the very worst case.

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Imagine this: They sell china the bioweapon, requiring it to be in their level 4 lab.

China buys the bioweapon and stores it in that lab in wuhan.

A few months later, whoever sold them the bioweapon releases that same bioweapon right next to the level 4 biolab.

Was it a leak? Was it deliberate? It's impossible to tell, even for China. Also take in to account it targets ACE2 receptors in the lungs, which are more present in males and Asians. So it literally targets Asian males. Why would China develop a bioweapon that targets their own population demographic?

Interesting to think about. Of course it could be a genuine accidental leak as well. It's looking like China is starting to admit it was most likely a human-developed bioweapon though, and not from bats or pangolins. Some in the US gov't are starting to say the same as well.

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Submission Statement:

"Society is like a stew. If you don't stir it up every once in a while then a layer of scum floats to the top." Edward Abbey

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good point, it was a great plan really, if you think about how he as used to draw out other whistleblowers and now to scare them into keeping quiet.

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We'll get toxoplasmosis, too?!

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I think most people would gladly trade their freedom for 15 minutes of fame. They kind of already have for a localized version of fame through social media.

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Ah yes, I see what you mean.

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Part 5

Lars Schall: There is another thing you took a look at. A few weeks ago, the Senate released the report on the CIA torture program. You are aware that the core of the 9/11 story is based on tortured testimony. Can you talk about this please, because this is very, very crucial.

Graeme MacQueen: I actually mentioned this, Lars, and maybe this is what you are referring to – I was part of a press conference at the Parliament buildings in Ottawa, in my country’s capital, not too long ago, when we had managed to get a petition presented to our Parliament to conduct an independent review of the 9/11 attacks. And the day that I ended up giving that talk in the press conference in the House of Parliament, the Senate report on torture was in the news, and everybody was talking about it and it was being discussed in the Canadian Parliament, and so on. So I decided, even though I had only three minutes for my little speech, I would mention the torture connection – because, as you say, it is extremely important.

The first thing to be said here is that there is nothing outside the mainstream, there is nothing particular radical or controversial about the statement that torture was crucial to that 9/11 Commission Report. In fact, I believe it was NBC of all things who commissioned a study that discovered that over one quarter, over one fourth of the footnotes in the 9/11 Commission Report were based on these interrogations. (4) And of course we know that many of those interrogations involve the use of torture, such as suffocating people with water. And if you look at the footnotes of the Commission Report, well, I was certainly stunned years ago when I first read it by all the references to KSM, KSM, KSM – Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who was supposedly suffocated about a 183 times.

The 9/11 Commission not only used information gathered under torture, it made it central to the report. Chapters 5 (“Al Qaeda Aims At The American Homeland”) and 7 (“The Attack Looms”) of the report couldn’t be written – at least in their current form – without these interrogations.

So it has to do with Osama bin Laden and his group, deciding to carry out these attacks, and the nature of the attacks, how al Qaeda came to the US, and where they went, what their names were – all kinds of things that are central to the official story were supposedly gathered through these harsh interrogations. And the 9/11 Commission collaborated with this. They actually submitted a new bunch of questions to the CIA – so that, as far as we know, these guys were interrogated harshly again specifically to answer questions for the 9/11 Commission. Now, the 9/11 Commissioners of course asked if they could directly talk to these poor guys who were being tortured. They didn’t call it torture, they said, can we talk to the people who are being interrogated? No, you can’t, you can’t see them, you can’t talk to them. Well, can we at least interview their interrogators? No, you can’t, none of your business, stay away, you interrupt the delicate process of interrogation.

So here we have a 9/11 Commission that has reason to believe people have been tortured to give this testimony, but doesn’t have direct access to anybody of any significance in the process, and so therefore decides to just trust the alleged transcripts that they get. It’s the weakest, most flimsy, not to mention immoral and illegal kind of evidence you can imagine. Imagine trying to introduce that to any decent court room. So this is what the 9/11 Commission Report, which is the closest thing to an official US document, giving the main story about 9/11, is based on. And this is why we’re trying to make the case to the Canadian Parliament that you can’t accept this. If you are saying you don’t collaborate with torture, then you can’t accept this document, you got to have an independent review. I don’t expect that we’ll be successful anytime soon, but that’s an argument we are making.

Lars Schall: Does every country of the West has to make this – to ask their governments to come clean about it?

Graeme MacQueen: I absolutely think they should. I think this is really important, because journalists and government leaders to the extent that they are asked about this they usually try to distant themselves immediately from these horrible interrogation techniques – oh, we don’t do that, oh, we were not collaborating, blah blah blah. It needs to be pointed out publicly, people need to be writing this in Op-Eds in newspapers and in official letters circulating in the internet – every government has to be asked, well, then why do you accept the official story of 9/11, because it is based on torture testimony? Everybody needs to be confronted with that.

Lars Schall: Thank you very much for your efforts and your book!

Graeme MacQueen: Thank you, Lars!

Graeme MacQueen received his Ph.D. in Buddhist Studies from Harvard University and taught in the Religious Studies Department of McMaster University for 30 years. While at McMaster he became founding Director of its Centre for Peace Studies, after which he helped develop the B.A. program in Peace Studies and oversaw the development of peace-building projects in Sri Lanka, Gaza, Croatia and Afghanistan. Graeme MacQueen was a member of the organizing committee of the “Toronto Hearings” held on the 10th anniversary of 9/11 and is co-editor of “The Journal of 9/11 Studies” – a peer-reviewed, electronic-only journal covering research related to the events of September 11, 2001. For an overview of MacQueen’s book “The 2001 Anthrax Deception: The Case for a Domestic Conspiracy” see here. And here you can read a review of MacQueen’s book by Professor Edward Curtin.

Notes:

(1) Compare Glenn Greenwald: “The unresolved story of ABC News’ false Saddam-anthrax reports”, published on April 9, 2007 at Salon under:http://www.salon.com/2007/04/09/abc_anthrax/, and: “Vital unresolved anthrax questions and ABC News” published on August 1, 2008 at Salon under:http://www.salon.com/2008/08/01/anthrax_2/.

(2) Graeme MacQueen: “The 2001 Anthrax Deception: The Case for a Domestic Conspiracy”, Clarity Press, 2014, page 106.

(3) Ibid, pages 187 – 188.

(4) MacQueen refers to Robert Windrem and Victor Limjoco: “9/11 Commission Controversy”, published at MSNBC on January 30, 2008. The article has been taken offline at MSNBC, but here it is still available: http://911research.wtc7.net/cache/post911/commission/msnbc_commission_torture.html

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Part 4

Lars Schall: Isn’t he the original role-model for “Dr. Strangelove”?

Graeme MacQueen: He could quite possibly be! (laughs.) There are a number of people who have been claimed, including Henry Kissinger. But Kahn was certainly in some ways a rather horrific figure. Anyway, he wrote a book, “Thinking about the Unthinkable”. And from that point on all kinds of people used the term to refer to nuclear warfare. So I thought, well, that this was interesting – they are now using it to refer to a bioweapons attack. Is there any deep meaning here, is this important? To this day I’m not really sure what the answer is to that, this is a relatively speculative chapter, but I did find a number of things that interested me.

First of all, in 2001 George Bush rejected the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty – by that I mean he gave Russia warning that the US was going to unilaterally withdrawal from that extremely important treaty. In the speech he gave on May 1, 2001 –this is months before the anthrax attacks — he said the Cold War is over. So forget about the US and the Soviet Union fighting each other, the Soviet Union was a terrible evil thing, of course, but it’s gone, we don’t have to worry about that anymore, so nuclear weapons aren’t really a major threat for the US anymore, the major threat is terrorism and rogue states possessing weapons of mass destruction. In this context, what he’s really doing is announcing publicly that we’re going to change the global conflict framework – the framework that will divide all of humanity, essentially. It was the Cold War for decades, and now it’s going to be a new one. He didn’t actually call it “the Global War on Terror,” but he was giving us warning that that was going to be. This is a few months before the attacks of the fall – 9/11 hasn’t happened, anthrax hasn’t happened -, but these are the new dangers, he said, and when he described the new dangers, he said that we need to “rethink the unthinkable” – which I thought was an interesting phrase. The unthinkable had been nuclear war before, and now we have to rethink it – so now the unthinkable is terrorism and rogue states with weapons of mass destruction.

Then 9/11 happens, which is supposedly terrorism, and the anthrax attacks happen, which were initially said to be an attack with a weapon of mass destruction by a rogue state, namely Iraq – how interesting. And then we have all these journalists and leaders and everybody talking, oh, the unthinkable is here, the unthinkable has happened! To top it all off, we then have a letter which was sent in September to NBC. It was part of this general thing we call the anthrax attacks, although the powder in it was fake. For reasons I give in my book , I believe it was part of the anthrax attacks. And this letter starts off with the words: “THE UNTHINKABEL”. (3) It was printed in big capital letters and spelled wrong to look like an illiterate radical Muslim extremist had written it. So here we have the anthrax attacks, a letter is being sent to the mass media, saying, the unthinkable has arrived basically, and we have George Bush warning several months earlier, we have to “rethink the unthinkable”, and we have all these journalists and government leaders talking about the unthinkable.

It occurred to me that just maybe, just possibly, this expression “the unthinkable” may be part of the discourse or the rhetoric of this new global conflict framework, that we are being given a message here. We are being told that which could not be thought, that which is so evil that our poor little ordinary democratic western minds can’t grasp it – it used to be nuclear war, but now there is this switch, now the ultimate evil are these dangerous Muslim guys, who are our enemies in “the Global War on Terror”. They don’t have nuclear weapons, but they are going to use the best they have, which is biological and chemical weapons – and so now this is the unthinkable. This our poor little humane kind of rational western minds can’t quite come to grips with this, this is beyond us, so we call it the unthinkable. So we have to throw ourselves into the arms of our governments leaders to protect us from this horrible evil. I think that’s what’s going on. As I said before, there is certain amount of speculation in my interpretation here, but I give the evidence and people can make of it what they will.

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Part 3

Lars Schall: I wanted to ask you about this specifically: How would you respond if our listeners / readers dismiss your research as just another whacky conspiracy theory?

Graeme MacQueen: The term “conspiracy theory” is what I refer to as a “thought stopper.” It doesn’t provoke us to think, it doesn’t stimulate thought, it doesn’t open up a discussion, it doesn’t encourage us to have a debate. What it tries to do is to stop the discussion. It’s an anti-intellectual move. It basically says, here is a person who is either immoral or stupid or insane – they’re “conspiracy theorists”, we’re not going to engage in dialogue with them. We are just going to paint them with a brush, they’re tainted, they’re spoiled, they’re taboo, somehow they are outside of the circle of respectable society, and therefore we don’t have listen to them, we don’t have to look at their evidence, we don’t have to read their books, we can just push them outside the circle. That is what the term “conspiracy theorist” does and that what I think it was mainly designed to do. It came into popularity after the JFK assassination, and it has been very useful for governments and intelligence agencies ever since then.

The sad thing is that even people that I personally respect a great deal, especially people on the left, often buy into this whole way of thinking. Where is Mr. Chomsky on 9/11, where is wonderful Chris Hedges, and Glenn Greenwald, and Amy Goodman, all these people who are so important in North America right now and whom I do not demonize by the way, I respect them all, I think they’re doing good work, but where are they on 9/11, where are they on the anthrax attacks? Well, they’re missing. They seem to have accepted the idea that those of us who question the official story on this are somehow radically wrong, we’re somehow tainted, we’re outside the boundaries of thinkable thought, and that’s too bad.

What I did in my book, I thought I could run away from this term, or I could run directly toward it, I could embrace it, and that’s what I decided to do, and that’s why the subtitle of the book is deliberately “The Case for a Domestic Conspiracy”. I define conspiracy in my introduction. It’s simply a plan made in secret by two or more people to commit an immoral or illegal act. Now, conspiracies in that sense happen all the time. That’s why laws are designed to deal with them. There is nothing weird about the fact that I’m claiming there was a conspiracy. What it comes down to is evidence. Do I have the evidence to support my argument? And if a person wants to know, they’ll have to read the book because the devil is in the details.

Lars Schall: If our listeners are interested in what you were referring, I think there was a memo in 1967 related to the case of Jim Garrison in New Orleans, where the CIA said, we should use the term “Conspiracy Theory” instead of “Assassination Theory”. Anyway, you conclude your book with the chapter “The Unthinkable.“ What do you mean with that?

Graeme MacQueen: This is how a part of the investigation proceeded. I noticed when I read the newspapers of the time – that is, the newspapers that were dealing with the anthrax attacks back in the Fall of 2001 –, that the term “The Unthinkable” kept coming up again and again. People would say, is it really true that the unthinkable is happening in the United States? Or they would say, it seems like a bioweapon attack is finally happening, we must now think the unthinkable. If you bump into one or two references like that, it’s no big deal, but I kept coming up with it again and again. And it wasn’t just journalists, because of course journalists borrow from other journalists. If it was just journalists, you could say, well, the guy in the New York Times likes the way the Washington Post did that, so he kind of borrowed it. But it wasn’t that simple. There were also scientists and government leaders, everybody seemed to be joining into the chorus. So I thought I would look a little more deeply into it.

I was aware that the term “The Unthinkable” has been a kind of a code word for decades among those who are concerned with nuclear weapons. It was used for a long time, it referred to nuclear warfare – The Unthinkable. This use of the term was probably pioneered, as far as I know, by Herman Kahn, who was an American strategic thinker, a guy who used game theory and so on to figure out how the US could best play this game most fruitfully with the Soviet Union.

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Part 2:

Lars Schall: You’ve mentioned anthrax vaccines. Were there not some people who were given drugs against the effects of anthrax before the anthrax attacks occurred?

Graeme MacQueen: Yes, but it wasn’t a vaccine you’re talking about now, it was an antibiotic, Cipro. Cipro is a strong antibiotic and it was the main one recommended against anthrax, against the disease called anthrax, at the time. This is one of the many kinds of fishy events in the history of the anthrax attacks. You and I wouldn’t be surprised to find that people started running to their drugstores and buying Cipro after October 3, when it was first announced somebody had pulmonary anthrax. But the interesting thing is that the run on Cipro, that is to say a great many people running out to buy it, started before October 3, about two weeks before.

In other words, just so that our listeners understand, somebody put anthrax letters in the mail about a week after 9/11, but nobody was supposed to have known about that or discover that until October 3. And yet, in-between 9/11 and October 3, not only are there many warnings in the press about anthrax attacks, but there is a huge run on Cipro – people are running to the pharmacy and buying this antibiotic and they are doing it quite specifically because of anthrax threats and worries and fears.

And this is the kind of foreknowledge that is very suspect and makes us wonder what is going on. And we become even more suspect when we realize that George Bush and Dick Cheney were put on Cipro on 9/11 itself, the very day of 9/11, and were kept on it. And when we discover that journalist Richard Cohen is on record as saying that he was given a tip by some high government official shortly after 9/11 that he should start taking Cipro. And so he did. This he said was well before most people knew anything about Cipro. We have to assume that it was sometime between September 11 and September 23 he goes on Cipro, because he gets a tip from somebody in government. What on earth can that mean, because anthrax is send through the mail at that time, but nobody is supposed to know that, right, it hasn’t been discovered yet. This whole story of Cipro illustrates that there was profound foreknowledge, that there was a wide group of people who knew that these anthrax attacks would taking place.

Lars Schall: Actually you argue in your book “that members of the executive branch of the U.S. government had the anthrax attacks carried out in accordance with a plan.“ (2) How did you reach that conclusion?

Graeme MacQueen: It seemed to me first of all that there’s no way a lone-wolf attacker could have done all the things that were done in the anthrax attacks. You have to remember that stories were planted all over the place. In the Washington Post, New York Times, many, many newspapers, The Guardian in the UK, TV stations, before the anthrax attacks even were discovered, all these reports about the fear of anthrax and the threat of anthrax based on fraudulent intelligence [were published]. It seems to me that this would have taken high-level people and it would have taken multiple people. No pathetic lone-wolf perpetrator could have made the media carry all those stories.

Secondly, no pathetic lone-wolf perpetrator could have written all the speeches for members of the executive, in which warnings were given – again, before the anthrax attacks were actually discovered – that we may be about to be attacked with a biological weapon. Who wrote the speech for Donald Rumsfeld, or for Andrew Card, or for Tommy Thompson, or for John Ashcroft? All these guys were out there in public, talking about, oh my God, we may be on the verge of being hit with a biological weapon attack. Again, this shows multiple perpetrators and it shows people in high positions of power, because this was not based on good intelligence – as I show in my book, this was based on fraudulent intelligence. Al Qaeda didn’t have anthrax, Iraq didn’t have anthrax. Some people come along and say, oh well, it was partially good intelligence, because after all the attacks took place. I say no, that won’t work, because when the anthrax attacks took place, they were done by completely different people than these other guys had been predicting, and therefore for completely different purposes.

So what do we see? We see multiple people, we see high-level people, we see that this was coordinated with other initiatives taking place, including the Patriot Act, the NSA spying, the discarding of the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty with the former Soviet Union – all this things were taking place. This was coordinated. All these things were tied together. And again, all the evidence that the 19 hijackers, who were involved in 9/11, who were also being involved in all these strange little scenarios that had to do with anthrax. They were supposedly running around trying to get hold of crop duster planes so they could disperse biological weapons over the US – the same guys who supposedly did 9/11. There is no Bruce Ivins or Steven Hatfill or anybody who could have done all this – created false scenarios, planted false stories, written false speeches, coordinate this with major treaties the US was rejecting. It all points to powerful people in positions where they could accomplish this. I realize of course that people would say, oh well, in other words, you think it was a conspiracy, you’re a conspiracy theorist – and that’s precisely true, it was a conspiracy, that is exactly what I am saying in this book.

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Yep. Exactly.

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It's unnerving how the post was phrased.

They give us a script. If commenter mentions A, we mention B. If a commenter mentions “random negative thing x,” we respond with a vague counterpoint, like calling our candidate “authentic” or saying “look at his record” without specifying.

There’s even a script for when the other commenter is winning the argument. We’re told specifically to derail the discussion, throw mud, and in the end, accuse the commenter of being a conspiracy theorist/tinfoil hat wearer. That way, anyone reading the discussion will see those negative points as being associated with weird people.

Like they've got it down to a science.

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I don't disagree with anything you said. However in regards to "bending the truth to be dramatic" I was speaking of his first two sentences, which are simply untrue as I pointed out. But I agree with everything you said, and everything he said after those two sentences.

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[–]Horrux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Taxes serve one purpose only: to keep the people down.

They don't finance ANYTHING AT ALL.

The problem is, and has always been, and will remain until it's eliminated, the Federal Reserve.

Any post about problems with the economy that doesn't talk about the Fed's central role in these deserves a big fat F and should be completely disregarded.

Now I'm not saying I approve of the super-rich. I don't, simply because their wealth is stolen from their workers, oppressed into wages that are much lower than the value of their work.

The problem is the rich stealing from the poor, but taxes are not the solution.

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[–]beermeem 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Why DO so many people on this site post old shit?

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[–]beermeem 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Whether this user specifically is telling the "truth" or not, we all know this goes on.

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[–]beermeem 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Reddit mods are unimpeachable!

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[–]AnarchySpeach 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That spooky moment of seeing someone else doing the same thing for the opposite side must've been an eye opener.

If any of this is even real. Could be. Sounds authentic enough.

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[–]Tarrock 8 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Agree. The r/offmychest power jannies are well known for their strong ethical standards and insightful knowledge.

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[–]AbeFroman 10 insightful - 8 fun10 insightful - 7 fun11 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

Well if the Reddit mods said it was fake then that's all the proof I need!

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[–]Chipit 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

  1. this is 4 years old.

  2. if you go to reddit.com and not archive.is, you see that the mods deleted it because it was determined fake.

  3. it could have been they determined it was fake because it damaged reddit's interests to be exposed as astroturfers.

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[–]FormosaOolong 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think it's dramatic to believe the deep state is capable of shutting off our internet, utilities, access to money. They've done comparable things in different formats to their perceived "enemies", and now the definition of "state enemy" or "domestic terrorist" or whatever label is being given is even broader. Due to some of your public research topics, Magnora, you may well be on some sort of low-level watchlist yourself.

Also, that journalists don't care is one of the most chilling and distressing aspects of this. That they will happily report the crappy canned propaganda, and kill the real stories, is even more horrifying. I remember when the OJ trial was the ONLY thing on tv all day, plastered on the front page every day, for months on end. This is such a more important topic and precedent, and yet there is mostly nothing but mass MSM collusion to keep it under the radar and controlled optics.

I think AnarchySpeach is making some solid points, except imho it is not the flock's ignorance that is as loathsome here as the press and politicos using this as the worst kind of political football.

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Are you the new "Zahn"? ;-)

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[–]dark_devil_dd 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

OMG!! That comment about Bernie Sanders if following the formula, that's hilarious!

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[–]magnora7 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I think this is the point of Assange. They're making an example of him, to deter people who wish to do the same thing. It's theater to show us how beaten and conquered we are. If you convince someone they're powerless, then you don't even have to fight them to rule over them. In addition to be a reflection of the malfunctioning justice system, it's also programming, to make us feel not-free, in our own minds.

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[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

People care. Most people in the US know who Assange is.

I understand your frustration, because there is a lot of complacency where there should be action, but let's not bend the truth to be dramatic, that won't get us anywhere either.

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[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Okay. The trump thing sort of happened already with Michael Sandford.

Now onto more important things: "Satanists have underground cities." lmfao

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[–]AnarchySpeach 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nobody cares. The public don't even know who he is.

The sheep are placated with fast food and cheap soda as search algorithms keep them safely tucked away in their personalized bubble.

Until food, water, or (god forbid) electricity take a hit things will keep on running smoothly into the ground.

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[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Don't be cheap. poor.

FTFY

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Don't be cheap.

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So its not the same as Boneitis

Good to know!