2007: A CIA jet crashed in Mexico with tonnes of cocaine on board. Reported by multiple corporate media sources, including Reuters. The wikipedia page about this event survived for 6 days. by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]Robin[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's #2 on some random Corporate controlled media trustworthiness graphic used to try to demonise independent reporting: https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Political_spectrum#Conventional_usage ... - and definitely on Wikipedia's list of trusted sources (unlike one or two corporate sources such as the Daily Mail).

If you're into careful reading of headlines, try this: https://saidit.net/s/greatawakening/comments/ro1/i_just_read_that_the_us_govt_claims_the_right_to/ - I'm still kind of surprised that no readers seemed to get it.

"The biggest arms-dealing case in U.S. history" and it doesn't have a Wikipedia page... by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

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I confess, I deliberately left out a URL to follow - to highlights how far down the memory hole it got flushed. That quote from Reuters is one of the few ways to identify it.

I wonder why it only got 3 votes when I posted it with the URL at: https://saidit.net/s/DownTheMemoryHole/comments/w3v/reuters_called_it_the_biggest_armsdealing_case_in/

"The biggest arms-dealing case in U.S. history" and it doesn't have a Wikipedia page... by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This was a conspicuously absent detail....

Thanks for connecting the dot. ;-)

Remarkable how CCTV cameras are either (i) not working, (ii) working, but the footage gets lost, or (iii) working, but legal proceedings seal the footage for 70+ years... by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]painstakingly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Cameras are for protecting the business and social order, not the people.

Remarkable how CCTV cameras are either (i) not working, (ii) working, but the footage gets lost, or (iii) working, but legal proceedings seal the footage for 70+ years... by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]sodasplash 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You can't understand how fucking blessed I feel. The guy said he found it in the gutter. I gave him $100 just out of instinct. Not only is it a $500+ phone but all of the things that are on it...

Our phones are so ridiculously important to us now. It's stupid.

Remarkable how CCTV cameras are either (i) not working, (ii) working, but the footage gets lost, or (iii) working, but legal proceedings seal the footage for 70+ years... by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Bro. You gotta move. Or at least stop going to Golden Corral.

Yeah I never went back to that buffet. It was 7 years ago though. I lost some pictures but it wasn't a huge deal at the end of the day. But the point is, they wouldn't let me see the security footage.

That's amazing you found your phone, that's awesome!

Remarkable how CCTV cameras are either (i) not working, (ii) working, but the footage gets lost, or (iii) working, but legal proceedings seal the footage for 70+ years... by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]sodasplash 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Bro. You gotta move. Or at least stop going to Golden Corral.

I woke one morning last week and my phone was nowhere to be found. Luckily, I have a backup phone and I used it to call my phone.

Someone answered.

He said, yeah, he found my phone in the gutter about 20 blocks away. Within two hours, I had my phone back and I gave the guy $100 cash just out of straight gratitude.

Magic happens.

Remarkable how CCTV cameras are either (i) not working, (ii) working, but the footage gets lost, or (iii) working, but legal proceedings seal the footage for 70+ years... by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]sodasplash 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I recently heard a story from a poker player. He had about $30 in chips stolen from him by the player next to him. He called the Floorman and demanded they look at the tape. The Floorman just gave him the money in dispute. He said it wasn't worth his time to go to the tape.

Six years ago, I was assaulted outside a bar. My attorney sent a letter within two weeks demanding the preservation of any CCTV footage. It was preserved and it was gruesome. I'm not certain how much it contributed to the settlement of my case but it was there and provided upon legal demand.

If it's a business, 99% of the reason that there are cameras installed, it's to spy on workers. Remember the movie Friday? When Ice Cube got fired on his day off for stealing boxes?

Remarkable how CCTV cameras are either (i) not working, (ii) working, but the footage gets lost, or (iii) working, but legal proceedings seal the footage for 70+ years... by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was at a buffet once and left my phone at the table and when I got back from the buffet my phone was gone. It was stupid of me to leave it there, my mistake. Anyway there were security cameras everywhere. The manager was there, and I told them what happened and wanted to see the security footage and he wouldn't even consider it! Then outside the door there was a policeman standing guard. It was weird. I'm pretty sure that restaurant stole my phone. What's the point of having security cameras if you refuse to look at them when a crime happens?

Reuters called it "the biggest arms-dealing case in U.S. history." Wikipedia calls it a "controversy" & doesn't give it its own page... by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

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I confess, I'm disappointed by the lack of votes this received yesterday. It's an age old formula:- Sell weapons, big up the threat, then repeat. An unnamed US delegate to the 1986 Bilderberg stated that “Libya is the principal sponsor of terrorism. It finances terrorist acts, it trains terrorist groups, it supplies arms, ammunition..."

If Wikipedia has gaps like this, even when corporate media reports it, who knows what it's missing that never got reported on... ?

2007: A CIA jet crashed in Mexico with tonnes of cocaine on board. Reported by multiple corporate media sources, including Reuters. The wikipedia page about this event survived for 6 days. by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]thefadd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I remember that. Totally thought the whole Gary Webb thing might still blow up huge. But we also had Stealth bombers flying across the country with armed nukes and Obama needed to beat Hillary needed to beat McCain.

Man, McCain would have made such a great President.

Le Cercle is older, more regular, much more secretive and probably more important the Bilderberg. Wikipedia's article on it is just 9 sentences... A link to the Wikispooks article was deleted after 10 minutes. by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

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Money is just a tool. You don't own everything just becacause you own the money. It is only easy to think that as you was born into a scripted reality where you was teached that everything can be weighted up with money, but money is in fact just illusionary numbers on colourfull paper bits or not even that anymore, but just faceless virtual numbers as it is for nowdays. It is literally magic, they make people "believe" in money, but for itself, money is absolutely worthless. It becomes funny in a sad way when you know that and you can see everyone around you desperately running and working for a few colourfull bits of imaginary numbers, it also becomes sad in a funny way. Core members of Le Cercle wear a tattoo of a laughing and a crying mask or at least they used to, just like the Yakuza or some motorcycle gangs uses/used tattoos as an identification code, before the modern times changed that item into microchips that can be implanted invisible under the skin. The only real thing of value on this planet is life. You literally pay everything in this world with time and blood, since this is all we've got. The means of payment in secret societies like Le Cercle is in fact the time and blood of the innocent. That literally means to kill children. The circles of the ruling chairs in this world are in fact just a criminal ring of child abusers and it has even come so far that everyone heard about that fact at least one time, but everyone is aware at the same time that there is absolutely nothing they could do against it. You can only try to blend it out and keep on living somehow. It is also meant to feel no regret for those abusers, since their construct of belief wants them to be mind and bones without a soul - that's how they define their state of power and in order to preserve it, many sacrifices must be made.

Le Cercle is older, more regular, much more secretive and probably more important the Bilderberg. Wikipedia's article on it is just 9 sentences... A link to the Wikispooks article was deleted after 10 minutes. by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

the Rothschilds are only involved because there is a lot of money involved which they own.

This means they run it, imo. If you're the majority funder of something, you run it. See NATO and the US for example.

Interesting though, I've not heard much of this Le Cercle (Which I assume means 'the circle' in French) before, always good to learn about new aspects of the world power structures.

Le Cercle is older, more regular, much more secretive and probably more important the Bilderberg. Wikipedia's article on it is just 9 sentences... A link to the Wikispooks article was deleted after 10 minutes. by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

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Actually they are not, the Rothschilds are only involved because there is a lot of money involved which they own. Le Cercle is responsible for pulling the strings in both world wars from the triggers of the outbreak til the "aftercare" propaganda. Le Cercle also made the slavery of black folks big back then and is still very interested in keeping all other folks in a permanent state of slavery as well. In order to become part of it, it isn't enough to be rich af, but to do very nasty things that are absolutely inexpressible. "The jews are crazy, but the french are evil", my good friend uses to say.

edit: translate fail

Le Cercle is older, more regular, much more secretive and probably more important the Bilderberg. Wikipedia's article on it is just 9 sentences... A link to the Wikispooks article was deleted after 10 minutes. by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

All controlled by the same Rothschild-originated Zionist groups. Freemasonry is huge in France.

Even though many many French and Jews disagree with them, they've taken over their names. They've taken over many names. Amazing what owning the legal money-creation abilities of a country can get for you.

Le Cercle is older, more regular, much more secretive and probably more important the Bilderberg. Wikipedia's article on it is just 9 sentences... A link to the Wikispooks article was deleted after 10 minutes. by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

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My good friend with the beautiful horns knows best, when he claims "the french" are even worse than "the jews".

Flashback to 2013: "Omidyar’s PayPal Corporation Said To Be Implicated in Withheld NSA Documents", that's the documents which you won't be seeing any more of now that they're being "shuttered", er, due to cost... by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

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she married her brother, about to come out. even snopes not denying. too bad, it was cool how she criticized AIPAC, tho that may have been on purpose, make it look like only an idiot would do that.

Guns & Butter: The Vocabulary of Economic Deception by Tom_Bombadil in DownTheMemoryHole

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The only thing I find odd is that his father was a trotskyite and I'm not really fond of Trotsky. He seems to push marxist Ideas, though he is right when it comes to the neoliberal agenda,

r/conspiracy text post archive by d3rr in DownTheMemoryHole

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MK-ULTRA related CIA FOIA search results by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

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search for whatever tho..

NZ shooting video by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

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NZ shooting video by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

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the music in the car is serbian nationalistic music

theforbiddenknowledge.com is gone by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

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So much is disappearing from there now. What a joke.

Dallas City Council Votes To Remove Confederate War Memorial | 8chan by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

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Dallas City Council Votes To Remove Confederate War Memorial

The Confederate War Memorial in Dallas’ Pioneer Park Cemetery will be removed. The Dallas City Council voted 11 to 4 Wednesday evening to take it down.

Erected in 1896, it’s the city’s oldest public monument. It sits between Dallas City Hall and the convention center.

Removing the monument is estimated to cost around $480,000. The city must still get approval from the Landmark Commission before the memorial can come down. However, Preservation Dallas warned the council that the removal from a designated historical area would set a “dangerous precedent. “We need to take this down. We don’t need to re-envision anything”, Dallas Councilman Kevin Felder said last Wednesday, February 6, during a briefing session regarding the monument. The city is tasked with a proposal to either rework the 65-foot tall statue with accurate historic context and information or dismantle the century-old monument. Dallas removed its Robert E. Lee statue in September 2017 after it stood in what was then Robert E. Lee Park for 81 years.

https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2019/02/13/dallas-remove-confederate-war-memorial/

https://archive.is/xpbj7

OP - https://8ch.net/pol/res/12799354.html

Given the trend in YouTube documentaries getting taken down, let’s discuss ways to preserve them. [reddit] by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]Riff 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I posted a more detailed reply to OP's points, but you've probably already gotten the notification in your inbox. ^

Given the trend in YouTube documentaries getting taken down, let’s discuss ways to preserve them. [reddit] by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]Riff 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Uploading to another video site like Vimeo.com seems like it could be a good idea, but I haven’t researched Vimeo thoroughly, such as learning more about the company and its trajectory, how they make their money, etc. Maybe there are new websites that promise long-term preservation of public videos, or this could be the goal of a new company. Should that company be a non-profit like Wikipedia?

If one is afraid of the possible decisions of a company or group, don't put too much effort and trust into the platform. We've lost countless services to a change of ideology and pulling out Wikipedia as an example of how a non-profit organization is a good choice is counter-productive.

WikiPedia is one of the most censored platforms out there.

Basically, how do you prevent a YouTube like incident from occurring again. If the hypothetical company promises to archive and keep videos public or on the server for perpetuity, how does that really work? Can users still delete their own videos?

It's all down to the agreement the user makes with the company or organization. I don't think there's a clause in the YT TOS that YT have to host anything, I believe it's closer to "YouTube is free to delete content it finds unsuitable for the platform".

So, step 1 to prevent a YouTube like incident from occurring again is to make agreements with content platforms that makes sure that's not an option for the platform.

If a user uploads something like a documentary, and somehow provides a proof of right to upload, or uploads original content, what ways can that be video be protected from future owners of the platform?

AFAIK, a permanent agreement that puts the needs of the user above the company (that's not going to happen), government regulation overruling user-hostile terms of service (I hope that doesn't happen) or make sure you're the one owning the platform and just never sell it. (This is happening right now, the decentralization revolution is well underway).

Edit: Another thought for the hypothetical platform. Maybe a video viewcount or donations adds server time and increases the promised length of time a video will be saved, or that time could be purchased by the uploader or just be supported by the company.

That's a solution that only works within the bounds of a permanent and user-friendly agreement with the content platform. And even what is considered reasonable terms of service (see WikiPedia), it's still open for abuse.

The only solution I see that takes care of the proposed problem is self-hosting, and in practical terms for a regular user that means decentralized or P2P-networks.

I mean, I've already unofficially connected my personal, decentralized cloud solution to PeerTube instances (official support in the works) to subscribe to channels and if so inclined I can host my own PeerTube server and select what videos I want to help stay available by hosting a copy on my own content platform.

Given the trend in YouTube documentaries getting taken down, let’s discuss ways to preserve them. [reddit] by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And is there a trend in YT documentaries getting taken down or are you talking about YT not recommending "conspiracy" documentaries any more?

i think both is happening. and they keep tweeking their algos, so what was true yesterday is not true today.

btw, i just posted this link, so we can see if they come up w/ something new...

Given the trend in YouTube documentaries getting taken down, let’s discuss ways to preserve them. [reddit] by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]Riff 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Download for personal storage and self-hosting on PeerTube-servers if the user is so inclined? Torrents?

And is there a trend in YT documentaries getting taken down or are you talking about YT not recommending "conspiracy" documentaries any more? After double checking a few classics, they're still there, still promoting their views...

In 2017 a German was soldier "temporarily detained" by Austrian police at Vienna airport on firearms charges. Later found to have created a fake Syrian ID. Case dropped down the memory hole "due to insufficient evidence"... by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]Robin[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for this report. It's not the first report of such difficulties accessing the site, but it is the most detailed. I'll investigate and get back to you on this. Which version of Chromium BTW?

In 2017 a German was soldier "temporarily detained" by Austrian police at Vienna airport on firearms charges. Later found to have created a fake Syrian ID. Case dropped down the memory hole "due to insufficient evidence"... by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]d3rr 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm having a hard time using wikispooks.com. There seems to be a wicked javascript error causing the page content to disappear. You can see js errors in the console:

load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=12i8zy8:176 TypeError: Cannot read property 'appendChild' of null TypeError: Cannot read property 'appendChild' of null
    at HTMLDocument.eval (eval at <anonymous> (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=12i8zy8:4), <anonymous>:146:218)
    at fire (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=12i8zy8:45)
    at Object.add [as done] (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=12i8zy8:45)
    at jQuery.fn.init.jQuery.fn.ready (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=12i8zy8:49)
    at new jQuery.fn.init (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=12i8zy8:41)
    at jQuery (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=12i8zy8:1)
    at eval (eval at <anonymous> (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=12i8zy8:4), <anonymous>:146:173)
    at mw.loader.implement.css (eval at <anonymous> (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=12i8zy8:4), <anonymous>:148:942)
    at Object.<anonymous> (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=12i8zy8:161)
    at fire (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=12i8zy8:45)

Using Chromium on Arch (alright it's Manjaro)

"The Boston Unbombing 2016 Documentary (BANNED)" (2019-01-19) by Mr Stosh on YouTube - CENSORED OFF VIMEO and likely YouTube soon, again by JasonCarswell in DownTheMemoryHole

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Link?

If I recall, Jim Fetzer's analysis was pretty good and covered most of it, and his analysis of Sandy Hook too, thought there were some errors - and while I have yet to see him retract those errors, I honestly haven't watched him for a long time to know if he has or not.

But the one that totally cemented the fakery of the Boston Bombing for me was this painstakingly detailed analysis tracking every person through all photos and videos and explaining their roles in the staged performance - staged much like a theatrical play - with several scene directors, many crisis actors, their costume gimmicks (shredded clothes but no shredded flesh) and "moulage" (practical gore effects), and even a periphery of onlooker actors and police who acted as guards should any legit healthcare workers try to assist.

It's a tedious and long piece that I saw on YouTube ages ago and I hope someone edits it and cuts it down into something more accessible for common folks. Same with the Sandy Hook thing. With some spit, gloss, and polish showmanship too for those who don't know how to watch anything else.

It's been a while so I don't recall the details of the Boston thing well. One guy was killed, allegedly driven over by his brother, yet looks more like he was mysteriously abused. Also, he has a beard and didn't - which is it? Their uncle worked for the CIA. Boston rolled over for Marshal Law and the brother was allegedly found hiding in a boat but that story gets weird on analysis too. The brother was tried and the mother kept saying that wasn't her son. No photos of the trial, just court illustrations. Maybe they had him tranquilized up like the trial of the 2012 Joker Aurora cinema shooter (rather than the multiple SWAT guys witnessed).

If not in jail, I suspect he's now one of those balaclava guys touring the middle East waving a black flag, with Timothy McVeigh. This is pure almost baseless speculation on my part.

"The Boston Unbombing 2016 Documentary (BANNED)" (2019-01-19) by Mr Stosh on YouTube - CENSORED OFF VIMEO and likely YouTube soon, again by JasonCarswell in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I believed the bombing was legit until a few months ago, when I saw a video with Ole that described the reality. There is an epidemic of fake crisis happening.

Does anyone know if the trial of that kid was real? It reminds me of the Sirhan Sirhan patsy.
Except for Chechen instead of Palestinian.

"The Boston Unbombing 2016 Documentary (BANNED)" (2019-01-19) by Mr Stosh on YouTube - CENSORED OFF VIMEO and likely YouTube soon, again by JasonCarswell in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Peculiar editing: "Newly-released video of Boston Marathon bombing" CNN (2015-03-09) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voJ_A_4GJvI

So dramatic.

"The Boston Unbombing 2016 Documentary (BANNED)" (2019-01-19) by Mr Stosh on YouTube - CENSORED OFF VIMEO and likely YouTube soon, again by JasonCarswell in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A quick search proves it used to be on Vimeo. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=The+Boston+Unbombing

Also of note:

I was alerted to this via a WikiSpooks correspondence and I told Kay to contact you here on SaidIt to see if anyone can help.


" There is the documentary "The Boston Unbombing" which to me conclusively proves that the famous victim Jeff Baumann lay more than five minutes on the ground before being transported to the tent in a wheelchair, which is totally no go with a leg missing. The maker did this with videos from the day that had the clock from the finish line in the frame. There is so much more that is captured, like EMTs watching on while the victims are attended to by the bystanders. An obese women going into a building being dragged out soon after from another women to stand again in a place where she is blocking camera view.

I will adjust the article at some point in that direction, but at any rate one will have to watch the video evidence to get the point.

Youtube keeps deleting, copys on Vimeo are degraded in resolution and the half HD copy on archive.org is 3,5 GB I think due to bad encoding. My half HD copy is 1,4 GB, might be the max resolution ever published.

You asked for documents but in this case there is this video that I would consider "evidence" that is worth preserving and only the Jeff Baumann part is easily 45min of a 3 hour documentary. Is there any interest on your part to look for a solution for videos? That would be very valuable imo. Was looking at vk.ru for HD videos, but not decided where to put it yet.

Content is all, the speed was a problem somewhere in the past but very ok now. "


List of Confirmed Conspiracies - locc - /r/conspiracy by d3rr in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]FormosaOolong 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have been researching a scam, and the Wayback Machine has been scrubbed of almost all evidence regarding it. If you click the links on the Operation Dormouse entry from OPs list you will see all of them are dead--but one redirects to a page entitled "wayback machine can't be trusted" that constantly reloads so it's hard to read. I'll try to capture it in a mo.

Otherwise here are a couple of links: https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2018/05/29/wayback-machine-unarchives-spying-website/

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/nekzzq/wayback-machine-deleting-evidence-flexispy

Here is the page I refered to above:

https://web.archive.org/web/20170221222316/https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3yf75y/you_cannot_trust_thewaybackmachine_archiveorg/?ref=search_posts

List of Confirmed Conspiracies - locc - /r/conspiracy by d3rr in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]fred_red_beans 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That would be the nice thing about something like ipfs

List of Confirmed Conspiracies - locc - /r/conspiracy by d3rr in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]d3rr[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you could find a write up about that, it would be super interesting. It is sketchy how pretty much everyone trusts them, it's a single point of failure.

List of Confirmed Conspiracies - locc - /r/conspiracy by d3rr in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]FormosaOolong 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As a side note, it's sick how much stuff gets scrubbed from the Wayback Machine.

List of Confirmed Conspiracies - locc - /r/conspiracy by d3rr in DownTheMemoryHole

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It was the finest of all wiki pages until someone claimed copyright ownership and demanded that it be taken down.

The replacement list is cool too: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/wiki/lopc

Guns & Butter: The Vocabulary of Economic Deception by Tom_Bombadil in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]Tom_Bombadil[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The tragedy is that there classical economic thought isn't even taught in universitys.
Modern economics ignores the basic principles that allowed the free market to develop present for every member of the community.
Today students no longer lean the basics. Back fees and interest are both considered profit for the economy, rather than a tax.

Edit: Great point, by the way! :-)

Guns & Butter: The Vocabulary of Economic Deception by Tom_Bombadil in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]FormosaOolong 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wow, this guy is so clear. I'm so glad that he is addressing the misappropriation of language, as it's so rampant now, along with its cousins regulatory capture, dog-whistling, and whatever you call all those agencies and NGOs that do the opposite of what they are named.

Guns & Butter: The Vocabulary of Economic Deception by Tom_Bombadil in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]Tom_Bombadil[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I've got to pay... The DEATH GRIP!!!.

Edit: Great comment, by the way! :-)

Guns & Butter: The Vocabulary of Economic Deception by Tom_Bombadil in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]SundogsPlace 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The man touches on something that's long been on my mind; through languages, and barriers there to, they can more easily manipulate. An example... Mortgage.. It's a word not used from what I know in Spanish, and most romantic languages. In Spanish, they call them Hipotecas. I'm not sure what the root meaning of that is, but hey, I do know that a "Mort" is Death, and "gage" is grip; so Latin base for Mortgage-DEATH GRIP.
Go figure they don't use that verbiage in Spanish!

THE DEEP STATE MIGHT BE TRYING TO TAKE DOWN ARCHIVE SITES by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]Vigte 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, I posted a 10 minute video here - the guy goes through all the tweets and comments, as well as finding some interesting anomalies regarding the timeline of this event.

Such as "If we donate, could you delete something for us?"

THE DEEP STATE MIGHT BE TRYING TO TAKE DOWN ARCHIVE SITES by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They already do it. The Internet Archive was never 100% in a lot of ways. Further proof, I've been to parties there in the Presidio in San Francisco - a former military base, which of course has/had the latest greatest massive Internet connection.

THE DEEP STATE MIGHT BE TRYING TO TAKE DOWN ARCHIVE SITES by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yup. This information warfare stuff isn't a game. This is the new reality, and we need to find ways to adapt and overcome.

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[–]RYAN 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This video has been blocked for breaching the site community guidelines, and is currently unavailable.

IMPORTANT - The internet is being 1984 scrubbed of the muzzie beheading European girls video. None of the links work. Does anyone have it? | news by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]WTFpplII 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

US voter here...

their deaths must not be forgotten and must be avenged.

'Avenged', or brought to 'justice'? Words mean a lot: how do we go about this "vengeance" without looking like the people we are after?

Do we send an Army if the local government wont do anything?

Do we hire mercenaries?

Do we ask Congress, or do we superseded our Constitution, again?

Can we effectively shame people that are not in your society?

To me, that line of the article I highlighted just seems like a call for interventionism.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the feeling I'm getting from my countrymen is that...

... WE ARE TIRED OF KILLING FOR OTHERS!

IMPORTANT - The internet is being 1984 scrubbed of the muzzie beheading European girls video. None of the links work. Does anyone have it? | news by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]PleaseKillMe 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not clicking that link, can someone elaborate the backstory? Who did it and why did they film it?

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[–]Broken-needles350 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

will do :) your welcome :)

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[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

/u/Broken-needles350/

If you find anything please ping me (as above) in case I miss it. Thanks.

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[–]Broken-needles350 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

yea, i'll have to look into that, WAC (WeAreChange) has done a video on goerge soros and what he backs and funds

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[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Okay. Thanks for trying. Might be worth dredging up somehow.

Also, you might consider widening from a Soros-Wikipedia connection to a OpenSociety-Wikipedia connection.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Society_Foundations

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[–]Broken-needles350 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i seen a thing on it a couple years back, i cant find it now sadly, prolly had it removed

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[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Anything that refutes the authority and/or standard narrative is rejected as "fringe" or "fancruft" and is pushed to the fringe onto Wikia or elsewhere. I suspect there is good info on some Wikia channels (or whatever they're called) but I don't know how long it will remain uncensored if it ever was. WordPress and Patreon are censoring people too.

Wikipedia will often "cover" fringe topics but they'll utterly misrepresent them and or minimize them. If you want information on a CIA op you may find a stub article but no body counts, etc and it won't be very expansive despite it being profoundly important.

For example, compare the very core of the Vietnam War : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Program

To a good long all American article : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evel_Knievel

They use the excuse of brevity to cut it short so you're forced to look elsewhere for details. They also tend to split articles when it's not necessary, further impeding your ability to easily digest information.

I forget the exact dates, but it was definitely in October-November of 2016 that changed the Wikipedia bookmarks. If you bookmarked a Foo article or dragged your WP icon to your desktop or whatever it used to say, "Foo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" , but the removed the tail so now it's only, "Foo - Wikipedia" .

Part of the sinister aspect is how Wikipedia is rigged as bad as our elections. They have gangs of "administrators" and editors with rank, all likely shills. Meanwhile, you can't even organize, on or off Wikipedia to affect change. I learned the hard way trying to improve the very shitty "9/11 Truther Movement" article, not even the 9/11 nor 9/11 conspiracy articles. Further example of how they rig it, is how they'll say RT is legit sometimes and sometimes not. Or one "legit" source will tell the truth one or two times, but they'll need three verifiable citations for "fringe" content, thus keeping it fringe.

Further they have a Wikipediaese, like legalese, all with codes and shit to find you guilty no matter what.

InfoGalactic is mostly an outdated mirror copy of Wikipedia with some "forking" with alt-right revisions and new articles. Their front page is just the same things on rotation with alt-right news in the current events quarter. I can also put my progressive anarchy crypto truther stuff there, freely and without censorship. And I can do my own wiki projects beyond the encyclopedia stuff. Their "community" and communication skills are virtually non-existent. I have no idea how long it will last. Vox Day apparently owns it though I don't know if he's ever written a word on it. I'd love to revise several aspects of it towards neutral freedom.

The InfoGalactic PG stuff is open, free, and uncensored. Read it.

Please link me to information about Wikipedia being a Soros operation.

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[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for the explanation. N2M = New to me. (I just made that up.)

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[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

today i learned

THE HISTORY OF PIZZAGATE , is being archived on Rutube by [deleted] in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]Broken-needles350 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

yea, about 25% percent of wikia/WP info is accurate at best, lol. There is a large amount of disinformation on wikipedia, lol.

while WP and its sister projects might seems good, it actually isnt. it was once said that any user could freely edit and add to WP's database, but since then, they rly locked it down on who could edit or add info. they might let you edit or add info as long as it goes with MSM/Soros backed narratives, but if its against what their pushin, expect the changes you made to be reverted.

infogalactic is more of a alt media/real news WP clone.

as for the PG stuff, the sjw's have it semi hjacked on site like voat and probably the wiki you mention too.

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[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Don't delete this post. Just don't post timesuck traps. Also, don't beat yourself up about it. This is a learning experience for all, myself included. I reacted without watching, in part because it was "hot".

Watching some Reddit top 10 things you didn't know type show (I'd posted it this week) I learned that the top votes are usually among the first posts. You can have a hundred comments but few folks read far enough to find the real goldstar answers to upvote them, so usually you get sufficiently decent but not great answers at the top.

Fortunately SaidIt doesn't have this over population problem ;).

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[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What is? Links? And what is "til"?

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[–]useless_aether 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

damn. thanks for the info man. i might delete this post in a bit. after saving your comment.

edit:
well i went to both yandex and rutube to serch for 'the history of pizzagate' and got nothing.

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[–]useless_aether 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

...that its a soros backed entity

THE HISTORY OF PIZZAGATE , is being archived on Rutube by [deleted] in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I download everything. Then I watch what I can.

Only because I actually got a response in these comments, I looked at the video to learn about this archive, RUTube, the channel, the comments, etc. The video has 0 comments and 1 like (not mine). It's a shit 1m33s video that says nothing with only right audio channel Russian folk music while alternating the static image above with an animated green Matrix-style rain over Putin.

Where is this alleged "History Of Pizzagate Archive"?

A DuckDuckGo search reveals nothing, but a mirror on Voat : https://voat.co/v/pizzagatewhatever/2914366

Even a Yandex search reveals nothing: https://yandex.com/search/?text=The%20History%20Of%20Pizzagate

The ONLY good thing about this TRAP POST that I fell into is that I discovered Rutube : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutube - https://rutube.ru/

Maybe when I learn Russian I can use it.

Meanwhile feel free to update this uncensored Pizzagate article : https://infogalactic.com/info/Pizzagate

Not to be confused with the corporate media (Wikipedia mirrored) article : https://infogalactic.com/info/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory

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[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"til" ?

Please explain.

THE HISTORY OF PIZZAGATE , is being archived on Rutube by [deleted] in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Please tell me more about this Soros angle. I'm not saying it isn't true but this is the first I've heard of it. I've always known it was run by Jimmy Wales. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Wales ) I've always known that info on Wikipedia was generally good but not always. In 2015+ I started actually tried to correct stuff and learned the hard way about the back-end culture and guard dogs that got me banned for a year (2017).

No, it wasn't Wikipedia, or their sister projects, supposedly free but not. Nor was it Wikia, also owned by Jimmy Wales. It seemed like a legit indie wiki, using the MediaWiki software, same as WP etc. I set up my own wiki here at home. It's easy. But I never used it, in part because building the deep links is painstaking, and really the only reason to use a wiki over a normal text file document. Also, I broke it when I updated my XAMPP stack. I could fix it if I cared to. Making/Having a wiki is no big deal. (I really wish SaidIt would start their own deep truther's wiki.) Having users is.

Infogalactic, linked above, is mostly alt-right guys. I'm an anarcho-progressive Green truther who uses it freely uncensored. I like it because it's free AND they let me use the wiki for my non-encyclopedic projects.

For example, I just started this non-wiki project : https://infogalactic.com/info/User:JasonCarswell/Truther_Top_20s

And I'm working on this one, using the wiki as my base of operations for my open-source animated series of shorts production management : https://infogalactic.com/info/User:JasonCarswell/Trutherism_101

Also, FYI, while the Pizzagate Wiki seemed legit at first glance, I never did explore it fully, hoping to do so when allowed in after registering. I registered but wasn't allowed in. I've never been back since. I have no idea if it's still going and don't care too unless they open up to collaboration. It may be just as good or even better than all the other proprietary-closed Pizzagate websites out there. I don't visit them either.

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[–]useless_aether 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

til

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[–]Broken-needles350 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

pizzagate wiki? it was probably hosted by wikipedia which is a known soros backed entity.

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[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

There are a lot of Pizzagate sources. I signed up for the Pizzagate wiki but I wasn't allowed to edit it which makes me think the whole thing is a limited hangout psyop - part true and part lie - also fit for catching "freethinkers" like me.

Pizzagate is only a slice (pun intended) of the greater problem. For more read on...

https://infogalactic.com/info/Pedophocracy

https://infogalactic.com/info/List_of_acknowledged_pedophilia_elites

https://infogalactic.com/info/List_of_alleged_pedophilia_elites

CryptoComb - database to identify CIA officers by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes. To be clear, the still image for that Corbett Report video features the dark overlord of mercenary violence, Erik Prince, the founder of Blackwater (since renamed), not Douglas Valentine the investigative author.

CryptoComb - database to identify CIA officers by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]useless_aether[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://thedailycoin.org/2017/01/30/trump-admin-raising-phoenix-program-from-the-ashes-video/

edit: ah i just realized this is the guy you were talking about :-) okey-dokey

CryptoComb - database to identify CIA officers by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Do you mean with the Iraq War?

Or do you mean risen from the ashes as Homeland "Security" to infiltrate and agitate and exterminate domestic American populations with their corrupt systems and monopoly on violence?

CryptoComb - database to identify CIA officers by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]useless_aether[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i also remember that the phoenix program was revived recenly..

CryptoComb - database to identify CIA officers by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Check out DOUGLAS VALENTINE on his MUST READ BOOKS: "THE CIA AS ORGANIZED CRIME How Illegal Operations Corrupt America and the World" + "THE PHOENIX PROGRAM America's Use of Terror in Vietnam"

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[–]d3rr 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Epic

BitChute: Voat video archive by d3rr in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

okay, i will reupload

BitChute: Voat video archive by d3rr in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]d3rr[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

yeah after transcode there was an error so they auto deleted themselves

BitChute: Voat video archive by d3rr in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

wait, so are the videos lost again? but thanks for the info!

BitChute: Voat video archive by d3rr in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]d3rr[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

you probably hate PeerTube by now, but I got my instance working again fyi. I had to write a bit of custom code to make it transcode locally but store the videos on my cloud storage shit. I even tested it this time.

BitChute: Voat video archive by d3rr in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

okay, i will upload some antony sutton

BitChute: Voat video archive by d3rr in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]d3rr[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

right!? torrent or youtube or upload. let's show these french fucks how to do it. edit: i'm rolling with unlimited storage now. it's as big as i'm willing to pay for: https://www.digitalocean.com/products/spaces/ the transcoding process is still super slow, near real time for 720p and more than real time for 1080 videos. oh well I don't want to pay for that to go faster. so $10/mo. total for 250gb of peertube.

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[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i did it. luckily, uploading is so easy!

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[–]d3rr[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

it's cool, my 25gb was destined to fail. i got some non-amazon block storage or whatever and am fixing it up now to have 250gb.

The stuff you uploaded that still says "transcoding" might have to get deleted and re-uploaded though. PeerTube doesn't try again very well yet.

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[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

oh no, sorry about that, should i delete them asap?

i deleted some big ones and duplicates

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[–]d3rr[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

it looks like you posted some good stuff and it killed the server :) the disk is crying.