Women outnumber men in colleges now 60 to 40.

submitted by casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter from self.debatealtright

https://www.wsj.com/articles/college-university-fall-higher-education-men-women-enrollment-admissions-back-to-school-11630948233

Not sure if this is a whitepill or blackpill. It's best if men avoid the marxist madrashas known as universities which strap you with debt and teach you that you are actually a girl trapped in a male body. Then persuade you to lop your dick off and join antifa.

It would be a white pill if these men were instead going to trades or learning from online. But I fear many might simply be turning into NEETs.

Its also going to wreak havoc on the dating scene. Women are hypergamist by nature and having an independent income sends their hypergamy to the moon. Most college educated women would scoff at the prospect of dating a blue collar man or one without a white collar job.

Women's choice of mate is strongly influenced by what her female friends will think about him. They want to show off their doctor hubby, they'd be embarrassed to meet their friends with a mechanic bf.

Expect a lot more- where are all the good men, articles.

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[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

it's mainly in fake degrees like gender studies. But one exception is in law school it's mostly women now. Still mostly men in all the other legit majors like engineering or doctors. But there are more women lawyers and that will go up in the future. This is important because while you might not like lawyers it's a legit profession and it's hard to pass the BAR, and lawyers tend to become politicians and judges and those have the real power.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

AWFL lawyers...not even once. How many AWFLs would sabotage their own client in order to score diversity points or strike a blow for social justice?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

that doesn't matter the fact remains they're mostly women

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    [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    The younger staff, however, are all some weird combination of any two or more of the following

    I have bad news. I did an 8 year stint in the corporate back office for a few large corporations. There is a new normal forming. In order to progress in your career, you have to either be a racial minority or become some sort of freak, like a purple haired genderbender or short haired obese lesbian, or man with fake boobs. There are still some regular people, but they are struggling or have to move to client facing roles where normal people are still needed.

    [–]scormac1752 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    And even commie trannies.

    It shouldn't be funny, but that gave me a good chuckle.

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    The younger staff, however, are all some weird combination of any two or more of the following: Antifa, feminist, queer, trans, purple-haired, obese, female.

    Obese, purple-haired, feminist female? Yep. Pansexual feminist female?

    They are the promised progeny of liberalism and capitalism. A lot of people think they are some mutant aberration but I beg to disagree. This is was the inevitable end result of the 1960s cultural revolution.

    [–]UserAetheria 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I hope it indicates that more men are realizing that university can be a huge waste of money (depending on the degree you pick). However, its not easy to tell.

    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I say it's bad news.

    Liberals love using education as a measuring stick for everything. If more Women graduate and hold degrees, then it's going to be used to give them credibility. Which in turn means more Feminism entering the workplace and politics.

    I also don't believe in being anti-academia. Despite the [modern] Leftist bias, keep in mind it was White Men who built them first. They were also forced at gun point to desegregate and every third world brown person demands access to them. So that should tell you that Universities still hold tremendous value, they just need to be more neutral.

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    If you're going to study STEM, go to East Asia Malaysia, or Russia. Your dollars would pay big there and education is way cheaper. They don't have wokeness and are focused on studies rather than brainwashing.

    [–]TheJamesRocket 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Most college educated women would scoff at the prospect of dating a blue collar man or one without a white collar job.

    Educated women will fuck around with a blue collar guy if hes hot, but its just friends with benefits. For long term relationships, they want a rich man with a white collar job. These men have the pick of the litter when it comes to dating, though, so most women will be unable to marry a rich man. Lots of educated women will end up being single into their 40s.

    [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Women fall into a huge trap when they go into high income careers like medicine or law. They think because they are a doctor they deserve to marry male doctor or better. They struggle to realize that most men could care less how educated they are or how much money and prestige they have. That doctor is just as likely to marry a 22 year old waitress.

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Yeah. I find it impossible to feel sympathy for women who ended up single against their will. Their arrogance and pride simply know no bounds. They spit on men who would've become lifelong mates and chase those who want nothing to do with them other than a one-night stand.

    [–]sylla94 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    women are naturally hypergamous so it's not to be held against them. the kikes have weaponized this against both sexes of our race by elevating the typical womans social status far beyond that of men

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (29 children)

    I have a question regarding hypergamy. Wouldn't that have some sort of latent evolutionary call at its base? Marrying someone that is more likely to be able to provide for children makes sense for that. The more technology, medicine, and other fields have progressed creates more of a demand for educational requirements. You can survive well enough on trade-based roles after you've been in them for years, but that's not necessarily something that you can immediately leap into at a journeyman level and make enough money to sustain a family on comfortably. I understand that having children isn't prioritized in couplings like it once was, but it can't possibly be that doomed. Looking exclusively for partners with extravagant incomes is a retarded tactic too, I mean how many women do you know are married to or successfully dated doctors or lawyers? Maybe I'm not going to be able to gauge this very well, since I'm not actively in the dating pool.

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (24 children)

    The thing is that women want to marry men above their status. At most, they will settle for someone of their own status. The idea of marrying men below their status is disgusting to them.

    After WW1, many British towns and villages had a shortage of grooms. Britain lost 800,000 men dead and hundreds of thousands more were severely crippled. Since regiments were often recruited on an area basis, many towns and villages lost almost all their able-bodied men as it was common for entire regiments to get wiped out. A marriage gap developed where many women ended up being spinsters.

    However, this gap was most pronounced in the middle class rather than the lower class. Many middle-class women could've avoided spinsterhood by marrying a coal miner or factory worker. Those men no doubt would've loved to marry a bride better off than themselves. But the prospect was simply too off-putting to the women.

    They remained spinsters rather than mingle with...those men.

    So yes, women will put off marriage in hopes of getting a man higher in status than her.

    https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20200121-why-promoted-women-are-more-likely-to-divorce

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/soloish/wp/2018/02/02/men-say-they-want-smart-successful-women-so-why-do-these-women-have-trouble-dating/

    These women are rich and successful but they won't marry men below their status. They want men even richer than themselves.

    Women are our mothers so we men have a tendency to see them as saintly beings. In reality, they are extremely cynical, shallow, and ruthless when it comes to relationships. Most college-educated girls would die of shame at the prospect of bringing a mechanic husband to a family party. Her sister or friends might be married to accountants and other white-collar men. How embarrassing would it be for her to introduce her mechanic hubby to them?

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (22 children)

    Many middle-class women could've avoided spinsterhood by marrying a coal miner or factory worker.

    Those men died from some of the most awful health conditions and worked hellish hours. When you're looking at potential partners, you don't want them to be around for a few good years and then watch them suffer only to die on you, leave the children fatherless, and then have to go to work anyway because you're not really young enough to give someone children anymore. It looks more like risk assessment.

    Seeing anyone as saintly, or pedestalizing them just sets up unrealistic expectations that can lead to unwarranted disappointment. People make mistakes. What high class women are you looking at in your dating pool though? Surely this is mostly problematic in more heavily populated areas, or those with high amounts of professional degrees? I know that you posted those examples, but don't those get headlines from being more on the extreme side?

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (21 children)

    you probably know of some anecdotal examples of rich, college educated women marrying mechanics. It does happen because women prioritize looks first, then status second. Both are important but looks are most immediete. So if a mechanic is hot he can and will get many women including rich college educated ones. If she brought a hot mechanic to her party her friends would be impressed and say you go girl. Not if it's an ugly mechanic though. And most mechanics are ugly. Why would a hot guy go into a profession that requires hard work when he can make much more money easily.

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    It does happen because women prioritize looks first, then status second

    Press X to doubt. When a girl hears about a man and is looking for a date, the first thing she'll ask is, what does he do? Not how does he look?

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    nah press a to believe

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

    I don't really know of anyone that I would consider rich. That's usually a term that I would reserve for people in the upper ends of the upper class. Mechanics can be attractive or repulsive, it just depends. Attraction is extremely subjective when dating seriously anyway. There's objective attractiveness, but individual attraction is a lot more diverse than that. That aside, you guys are potentially cucking yourselves over blanket generalizations. I know that the red pill can seem like some sort of incredible guideline that shines the light on all the dark spaces of interactions between men and women, but consider researching those behaviors on a personal level. Most of that stuff seems extremely subversive, and just designed to make men paranoid about everything. Maybe I'm just being naive about it, I don't know.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

    it's not subjective

    [–]Ponderer 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

    Maybe it's rude to point this out, but for the sake of this debate, the person you're responding to has never been in the shoes of a man trying to attract women.

    I also strongly agree with you that attraction is not "extremely subjective". That take has always been incomprehensible to me; I don't see how anyone can say it with a straight face.

    I think there's room for debate on to what degree attraction is objective. Maybe the statement "it's more subjective than you might think" could be valid. But "attraction is extremely subjective" is just... wrong. We need to stay grounded to reality here.

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    You're a woman?

    [–]Ponderer 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    No, I'm a man. I meant the person Popper was responding to.

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Who?

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    i doubt it's a woman, women don't post on sites like this. But it's a blue pilled guy in denial of which there are many.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

    It's not rude at all. You could see why I wouldn't want to start up questions beginning my posts bringing my sex up though, yeah? It's not meant to be subversive or anything, just meant to get honest answers.

    Anyhow, it's got to be subjective to some degree (maybe extremely was not the best adverb there) because people have "types" that they're attracted to. There's also the whole preference for details vs bigger picture thing, drawing associations from certain general appearances, etc. It seems like it would be something much more psychologically involved than just a base instinct to be attracted to like 4-5 key features. You guys were talking about blackpillers being demoralizing, but how could you not see this as being somewhat similar? It's almost like preemptively damning the ones that don't meet certain criteria to accepting that they're unlovable, and it doesn't make sense.

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    black pill is reality. it's demoralizing but you can't deny it.

    [–]Ponderer 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    You guys were talking about blackpillers being demoralizing, but how could you not see this as being somewhat similar?

    This is a good point, and I'm going to make a post about this.

    It's almost like preemptively damning the ones that don't meet certain criteria to accepting that they're unlovable, and it doesn't make sense.

    I think the accepted mainstream narrative is something like "looks don't matter at all when it comes to dating, human attraction is purely based on morality and has no superficial qualities whatsoever", which is totally insane and off-the-rails.

    However, to counteract this, many people online adopt the position "looks are literally everything when it comes to dating, and if you don't have xyz qualities as a man then you are undatable", which (although our modern culture has certainly driven up the importance of looks) seems inaccurate. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

    Individual mate attraction? Care to explain?

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

    women want hunter eyes, big chin, wide frame, and tall height

    and white men are most attractive to them

    [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    Popperpill too brutal

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Its the new Hiroshima pill

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    That's absolutely not the case across the board. Do you exclusively find only certain features for women that are on an approved list?

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    nah it's all women

    [–]scormac1752 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Man, that second article was particularly fascinating. You can tell that as men and women get older, their position in a relationship gets flipped around: women are left wanting a man and men are long-since all ready to go.

    [–]asterias 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    I have a question regarding hypergamy. Wouldn't that have some sort of latent evolutionary call at its base? Marrying someone that is more likely to be able to provide for children makes sense for that.

    There's a vast distance between hypergamy and marriage. Hypergamy means women get to experience the cock carousel and collect STDs, then, when they can't attract men anymore, try to find someone financially stable to commit while bitching that "there aren't any men". I don't see much of an evolutionary call in this.

    If women had to face the consequencies of their actions instead of having access to abortion and instant divorce and the freedom to behave sluttily, they would obviously have to adapt their behaviour and do their best to commit to a man suitable for a life together.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    That's why I presented it at the baseline of looking for viable partners with supportive incomes being an evolutionary calling, and not the rest-- because that's new behavior.

    You realize this is an issue among both sexes, correct? It's a cycle that feeds into itself.

    [–]asterias 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    No sane man will feel right when treated like a wallet or a backup plan. And women usually look for financially viable partners after they have exchausted all options for "fun". Even then, they have extravagant demands and a man with an average income is not good enough for them.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Ok, understandable. Usually someone wants to feel appreciated and cares about for something aside from their ability to pay for shit, and don't want to be the final option. I'm still slightly confused as to how this is an issue that's across the board though. Wouldn't it be easier to avoid that once you're aware of what you don't want with dating? People here are sort of all over the place income and education-wise, and tend to intermix-- but it's not a large city. I've encountered that specific type of woman here, but they're kind of in a sea of others and easy to not have anything to do with.

    [–]scormac1752 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I don't have a WSJ account, so I can't view the full article, but this seems to make sense to me as a college student. A lot of students, mostly men, dropped out of school within their first year.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Its also going to wreak havoc on the dating scene

    My female doctors fall in love with me just as readily as the girl at the liquor store.

    If you're having a problem getting a chick it's probably not because of their education.

    Women's choice of mate is strongly influenced by what her female friends will think about him

    Then why do they like "bad boys" like me?

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    Are those doctors willing to marry you or are you just a cock carousel guy?

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    There isn't anybody who wants to be married to me, including my wife. Yeah, they just use me. But I don't like to think about that.

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    LOL.

    Gigachad.jpg

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I know dude, I'm a total chad. It's pretty cool though.