We should stop recommending Mein Kampf

submitted by VarangianRasputin from self.debatealtright

Mein Kampf is outdated. It ceased to relevant in the 60's, and by then it's only relevance was to give guys like Commander Rockwell, who fought against Hitler, to view the war from another angle. While some of the points in Mein Kampf still have some relevance (Marxists, usually Jews, running worker's unions, we had an occurrence of this in the UK during the 70's), overall it was not written for 2020, it was written for the German people, specifically the Weimar Republic, and only that.

I don't get why we're still recommending Mein Kampf on reading lists. If some new guy comes along and wants to read some theory, why in hell would we direct him to Mein Kampf of all books? It's terribly written (face it), boring, and mind-numbing. Even Mussolini couldn't finish it (allegedly). Even Top National Socialists didn't like it (Rosenberg when asked about Mein Kampf in a interview: "It is...a book."). It doesn't help that Hitler is straight up dishonest about his upbringing in a lot of cases. I recommend "The Young Hitler I Knew". Even Kubizek was surprised by Hitler's white lies in Volume 1. It's not even that good of an introduction to Fascism, or even completely necessary, for that matter.

Now look, this isn't to downplay Hitler's role in history or 3rdPositionist thinking. I love Uncle H as much as the next guy, and I'm not opposed to somebody reading Mein Kampf. The book is enough of a force in-and-of itself that people get drawn to it naturally, and by then, they're ready for it.

TLDR Just go read For My Legionaries.

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[–]Salos10000 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (44 children)

Why the fuck shouldn't Hitlers role be downplayed?He was a warlord, a mass murderer and imperialist who's actions dampened the views of Nationalism throughout the world. Think about this, say you are a political moderate who is aggravated by the current racial climate, you come to radical right centers and you see Autists promoting Nazi ideology, this scares away the moderate as they have been taught throughout their lives that Nazism and Hitler were the most evil entities in human history.Think of the boiling frog experiment. The men who fought Hitler on the allies would be considered far right neo nazis by todays standards, they are the hero's we need to worship and in particular emphasis how Nationalism is what motivated them to fight.

[–]frodo-baggins 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

This. White advocates should promote 1940s and 1950s Americanism, not genocidal autism.

That may mean separatism at this point. Our demographic fate is sealed if you include California and other states that have been flooded with the 3rd world we need just one small country for White Americans to live in peace. In no way ever does it mean mass murder or LARPing as a Nazi.

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

genocidal autism

Hitler was not genocidal AFAIK, that's the problem with not setting the record straight. If we don't talk about him honestly, i.e. he saw the harm Jews were doing to Germany and wanted them out, then everything WE touch gets painted as genocidal. Jews are poisoning the West, on purpose, and we HAVE to educate people on that. I think Hitler was not at all nice, but he wasn't the cartoon villain he, and we, are painted as.

[–]frodo-baggins 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Optics check buddy.

He's a mass murderer on par with Stalin. We absolutely should disassociate ourselves from him. We have so many better heroes who support our cause, that many normies look up to as well.

Every founding father agreed to citizenship being restricted to "Free White men of good character".

Abraham Lincoln wanted the freed slaves sent back to Africa.

Muhammad Ali, Malcolm X, and other Black icons heavily opposed miscegenation, for the same reasons that we do. If we are all mixed into one monotonous slop, that will destroy every culture, not just ours.

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm for accurate reporting, that is all. Jews lie, any lie to get their way, it's right in their religion.

[–]frodo-baggins 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Do you think the Nazis were innocent? What do you think happened at the concentration camps?

When we have nearly every historical figure agreeing with us wholeheartedly, why do you idolize the most hated?

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What do you think happened at the concentration camps?

A whole lotta starvation and disease. The US had concentration camps too but we had enough supplies to feed the inhabitants. If they were "death camps" there would have been no beds, swimming pools, etc.

why do you idolize the most hated?

Who said I idolized the Nazis? I am for truthful history.

[–]frodo-baggins 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Even if youre right (which Im not convinced of), this is a losing battle for you.

We have to convince White people to love themselves. Defending the people weve been conditioned to hate the most will have the opposite effect.

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    [–]frodo-baggins 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    You wont red pill anyone going that route.

    [–]peety 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

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    [–]frodo-baggins 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Replacement is real, you don't have to convince me. There are powerful people who have made the absolute eradication of White people their goal.

    The question is, how do we save ourselves? In order to do so, we need a significant percent of Whites to reject the anti-White indoctrination.

    The best way to do this is to advocate FOR White people, not against any other group. The guy in the UK who flew a White Lives Matter flag in response to a Libyan migrant killing White people is a good example. The people spreading the news about Jessica Whitaker are doing good work as well.

    Before we save our people, we have to convince enough of us that we need to be saved. The mass censorship and control of the media has shut many Whites off from information that they need to see. We need to spread the word about the death of Jessica Whitaker like the death of George Floyd was. (Or the White babies killed by Blacks in a Baltimore day care, or the White senior citizen beaten to death by a Black in the nursing home, or the murder of Duncan Lemp, or any of the other countless murders and attacks against our people that go unreported every day.)

    [–]VarangianRasputin[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (29 children)

    Take your PJW nationalism to The Donald.

    [–]Salos10000 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (28 children)

    No, my Nationalism is the norm throughout History. Tying ourselves to Nazism is retarded.

    [–]VarangianRasputin[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (27 children)

    Even if you did try to get away, the Left wouldn't let you. Hitler is a shining example of White Hope. By denying him, we're playing by the lefts rules, which is completely retarded.

    [–]Salos10000 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (26 children)

    No he aimed to massacre millions of whites and actively did. We are not looking to convince the Left, we are looking to rally the right and moderates who would be turned the fuck away by ties to Nazism. What we should be doing is claiming the allied heros as our own since they would be regarded as far right Neo Nazi's be today standards. Hell the Poland Hitler invaded would be considered a fascist regime by them. The Alt Right has tied itself to Nazism for decades and its gotten us nowhere, sticking with it is like ramming your head into a wall expecting it to break.

    [–]VarangianRasputin[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

    No he aimed to massacre millions of whites and actively did.

    Muh Holocaust!

    We are not looking to convince the Left, we are looking to rally the right and moderates who would be turned the fuck away by ties to Nazism.

    Yeah, man, we're not looking to convince the left, or the so called right-wingers who enable them /s (and lets face it, agree with them). WE are the Right. Make no mistake about that.

    What we should be doing is claiming the allied heros as our own since they would be regarded as far right Neo Nazi's be today standards.

    Yeah man, let's claim a bunch of young men brainwashed by Jews into fighting against their own long-term interests, not those nasty evil German men.

    Hell the Poland Hitler invaded would be considered a fascist regime by them.

    Anybody to the left of Emma Goldman is considered Fascist by them. What point are you trying to make, exactly? You expect to beat leftists by playing by their rules? Do you call winning more and more hearts and minds every passing year "Getting Nowhere"? We are reaching the tipping point my friend, what with all these riots going on, the Far-Right is going to surge in the coming year, I'd stake my life on it.

    [–]Salos10000 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

    Not just the holocaust by the entire Labensraum plan.

    Most people here used to be conservatives and moderates, they are the easiest to win over. Trump's appeal to Nationalism campaign in 2016 is an example of this.

    Did the Jews force the Japanese to bomb pearl harbor or Hitler to declare war on the US or invade the USSR or invade Poland?

    Yes but the Left is not the majority of he population, do moderates or conservatives not exist or something? We aren't playing by their rules by distancing ourselves from Nazism, they want us to associate with Nazism so they can justify censorship and condemnation.Subverting and claiming the heros of WW2 who are universally respected across the spectrum is a far bigger subversion of their rules.

    [–]VarangianRasputin[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

    Not just the holocaust by the entire Labensraum plan.

    The Lebensraum plan mostly consisted of areas that were rightful German land, and had large German populations.

    Most people here used to be conservatives and moderates, they are the easiest to win over. Trump's appeal to Nationalism campaign in 2016 is an example of this.

    That's kind of my point. Our ideas are winning more and more over, it's a gradual process of them shifting more and more right as the left oversteps it's boundaries until they find their way to us.

    Did the Jews force the Japanese to bomb pearl harbor

    America had placed many sanctions on Japan preventing them from acquiring many resources they needed. Who runs America, might I ask? Now, of course that was a dumb move by Japan, but you are doing them a disservice by removing that event from it's context.

    Hitler to declare war on the US

    Does the term, 'Tripartite Pact', mean anything to you? His hands were kind of tied.

    invade the USSR

    Hitler was pretty convinced that the USSR was going to invade him at anytime. Whether that's correct or not is a whole other subject.

    invade Poland

    They pressured Britain and France to declare war on Germany over Danzig, an area that was 90% German (The Danzig police-force actually helped the Wehrmacht). Keep in mind Danzig is fucking minuscule.

    Yes but the Left is not the majority of he population, do moderates or conservatives not exist or something?

    What are conservatives conserving, exactly? They're just Liberals under a different name at this point. As I said, we are the Right-Wing.

    We aren't playing by their rules by distancing ourselves from Nazism, they want us to associate with Nazism so they can justify censorship and condemnation.

    They would censor us anyway. You really think they need an excuse? If not the Nazis, then it will be some other monster.

    [–]Salos10000 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Ukraine,Baltics,Belarus,Poland and Russia are all core German territories, sure.

    [–]VarangianRasputin[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Did you even read anything I said about the Lebensraum? Considering Hitler signed over Eastern Poland and the Baltics to the U.S.S.R, I think we can assume he didn't give a shit. He doesn't seem the type to compromise at all, especially when in power. I said DANZIG was a core German territory, which, at the time at least, it was.

    I don't get how you can be on the Far/Alt Right and not defend Hitler to some capacity. I'm not even a die-hard defender of him, I'm just nuanced. You can't fight the Left while also absorbing all of their easily disproved propaganda.

    [–]Salos10000 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

    The US placed sanctions of Japan because of their aggression and atrocities against China. Are you really trying to argue 1930s America was Jewish run?

    No Hitler's hands were not tied, any person with even a slight understanding in History would know that, he chose to declare war on the US.

    Better a defensive war than an offensive one into a large area.

    The league of Nations ran Danzig and it was Poland's only access to the sea. Why should they give it up especially since it was theirs legally under the treaty of Versailles?

    The Neocon are dying out and with common sense and strategic strategy we can get Nationalism and true conservatism back.

    Yes they don't need an excuse but let's make it difficult for them to do that and show them as unjustified. We are not working to win the Left we are working to win over the moderates and conservatives. Tying ourselves to nazism is a losing strategy period because the average citizen knows and have been taught their crimes. Whether you think they are propaganda or not is irrelevant.

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      [–]VarangianRasputin[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      The US placed sanctions of Japan because of their aggression and atrocities against China.

      Yeah, and...?

      Are you really trying to argue 1930s America was Jewish run?

      Are you seriously going to argue it wasn't? I wasn't aware this was disputed.

      No Hitler's hands were not tied

      Tripartite Pact. It's called honouring a deal.

      The league of Nations ran Danzig and it was Poland's only access to the sea. Why should they give it up especially since it was theirs legally under the treaty of Versailles?

      The treaty of Versailles was bullshit, for one. Second, 90%, the Germans, of the population wanted to return to Germany.

      The Neocon are dying out and with common sense and strategic strategy we can get Nationalism and true conservatism back.

      On that we agree.

      [–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      No he aimed to massacre millions of whites and actively did. Muh Holocaust!

      I think he refers to Poland, Yugoslavia and the Baltic area.

      (Though the events in Yugoslavia were not directly attributed to Hitler)

      [–]Jacinda 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Hell the Poland Hitler invaded would be considered a fascist regime

      It was literally a fascist regime at the time.

      Edit: I checked my sources and see Wikipedia describes the pre-war Polish government as a "dictatorship without a dictator."

      Wikipedia

      From 1937 the colonels' new political front would be the Camp of National Unity (OZON). In that last period, the Polish government—a "dictatorship without a dictator"—in order to bolster its popular support, paradoxically adopted some of the nationalistic, anti-minority policies that had been opposed by Piłsudski and advocated by his most vocal adversaries, the National Democrats.

      I have a feeling that "anti-minority policies" is a bit of a euphemism.

      [–]somebody112 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Why the fuck shouldn't Hitlers role be downplayed?He was a warlord, a mass murderer and imperialist

      Except he wasn't. Somebody doesn't know their history. He made MANY attempts to avert WW2 all were rebuffed by a bellicose Poland being encouraged by England (and an actual war-monger in the form of Churchill).

      you come to radical right centers and you see Autists promoting Nazi ideology

      No, they aren't promoting Nazi ideology, they're often demonstrating that Nazis didn't just fall out of the sky for no reason (which is the opposite of what you are doing).

      this scares away the moderate as they have been taught throughout their lives that Nazism and Hitler were the most evil entities in human history

      It didn't scare me away, in fact it had the opposite effect, but I think you know this and that's why you're here.

      The men who fought Hitler on the allies would be considered far right neo nazis by todays standards

      Effectively at the start of the war there was no functional difference ideologically between everyday Germans under the Nazis and everyday English under "democracy" and Churchill. The only difference was that the English wanted to destroy Germany for reasons that weren't really clear to them and the Germans didn't want to be destroyed. Eventually it became obvious to Hitler and Germany as a whole they could either wait for the allies to gather strength and destroy them or strike first and then offer peace terms. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID. They blitzkrieged Poland, Czech Republic etc, literally rolled over them then repeatedly made peace entreaties to England to just end the war, asserting that the territorial situation would be restored to pre-war conditions.

      EVERY APPEAL WAS REJECTED BY CHURCHILL.

      [–]peety 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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      [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      No, I have quite the opposite impression. I was bombarded with "Mein Kampf is poorly written, it sucks, Hitler was shit writer" memes for a decade before reading it, and it was shockingly good when I read several chapters of it. It's also pretty straightforward and people who are not in that mindset can understand it.

      [–]lothrop_evola 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Which translation did you read? I've heard it makes a big difference since some are translated poorly.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I read Croatian translation, I think Creativity Movement did the translating, and it was pretty good when you compare it to Stalag let's say.

      [–]VarangianRasputin[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Maybe I should pick it up and read it again. It has been some time.

      [–]Richard_Parker 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Yes. The correct position is a firm aversion to Hitler. He lost the war and ultimately was a tyrant to his own people.

      Plus people have been marinating in allied and Jewish propaganda their whole lives.

      [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      If he was a tyrant somebody would shoot him when he was driving around in his Mercedes.

      [–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

      The problem with MK is that it gives hope for a political solution where there is none. There needs to be more attention given to modern minds like Dr William Luther Pierce

      [–]Salos10000 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

      His book is despicable and massively damaging for optics though.

      [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Are there any alt right positions you actually hold salos or are you just going to tone police? You do know tone policing is a bannable offence correct? Making logical arguments that MK is not a good read or making arguments that you disagree with positions in MK is fine (this is a debate sub) but shaming people for liking people and endlessly talking about the 'optics' of a group you clearly don't belong to will lead to a ban.

      [–]Salos10000 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Can you define tone policing?

      I agree with 80 percent of our ideology(preserving the white race,Jewish influence, the nature of the left,etc) however I want our movement to succeed. I see it from a collectivist standpoint instead of individualist. Tying ourselves to Nazism just gives our enemy what they want and it scares away potential followers. We have to be strategic and clever if we want to win.

      [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      rule 2 ------------------------------------------------->

      I agree with 80 percent of our ideology(preserving the white race,Jewish influence, the nature of the left,etc) however I want our movement to succeed.

      Read the definition on the right and you need to more carefully frame your arguments to avoid criticizing emotions.

      An example of tone policing would be calling everyone you disagree with a 'wigger nationalist' or 'wignat' a better framing would be, "I'd advise you not walk around in public with Mein Kampf, it could turn off normies and even cause you to lose your job unfortunately, even though there are good ideas presented in the text"

      Here's another example of tone policing: "There are no good ideas in Mein Kampf, Hitler was a dumb Chud and anybody that like him is a chud." Alternatively you could say, "There are 4 main themes of Mein kampf and here's why I disagree with all of them (proceeds to lay out a thoughtful/reasoned critique of mein kampf)"

      Tone policing can be tough to identify (which is why trolls like using it) but it is a real thing and the mods here have seen it deployed to snuff out healthy debate. Some of the best examples of tone policing were on r/theredpill. Folks would come in to that sub saying they hate women and are angry with women and trolls would come in saying to stop being an incel sperg. That's classic tone policing. Many of those guys with anger about women had legit anger (their ex wives might have just recently divorce raped them) and a legit arguments (such as feminist critiques, critiques about anti male doctrines used in legal system) to make and until mods cracked down on it their voices weren't heard.

      We will be monitoring it and we won't allow it on DAR.

      [–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Optics don't matter when there is no victory within the System. You cannot vote yourself away from oppression. You have to divest from the System.

      [–]Salos10000 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      What exactly do you mean?Optics are important to win over the white populace, in particular moderates and conservatives. If you are suggesting revolution, well guess what you need a large,large following for that to have even a chance of success. Tying ourselves to nazism and whatever fantasies Pierce wrote about is a failure.

      [–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Lemmings won't come with you they'll keep going off the cliff. Revolution is difficult in the modern day, low level insurgency and loss of federal authority in key pockets is much more feasible.

      [–]IRONICALLY_A_NAZI 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      You're a massive jdif agent

      [–]Salos10000 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Why?

      [–]IRONICALLY_A_NAZI 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      That's between you and your G-d

      [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Disagree. If there's no political solution through a mass movement there certainly isn't a boogaloo solution. It would require more funding, more popular support and more organisation than a street mass movement would. If you could manage to conjure up an army that even stands a sliver of a chance against the US military you could easily have already taken power through legitimate means.

      Also WLP and others like him never actually detail how to organise or anything like this. It just presupposes the existence of this and fantasises about what they'll do after the fact. There's really nothing of value in WN fiction, it's just for entertainment/catharsis.

      [–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      That doesn't take into account the nature of modern warfare and insurgency. You don't need a well funded army sophisticated enough to beat the US military. You just need to exert enough force that it's too expensive for the feds to bother enforcing the law in your territory. And as the government continues to deteriorate with the browning of its staff and the cutting of funds this will get easier and easier.

      [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I agree.

      Mein Kampf was a manifesto/political pamphlet for a specific historical context to promote the pre-power NSDAP and I agree its relevance is far less today, far more theoretical Third Positionist works exist such as the one that you named, Doctrines of Fascism, Mosley's 100 Questions Answered and many others. To give an analogy from the other end of the political spectrum, it is like why Lenin's works like Imperialism or Marx's Das Kapital are more relevant than their historically contextual works about issues of their day. From a modern perspective, reading Mein Kampf would only be relevant if one wanted to understand Hitler himself and honestly there are better biographical books on that matter.

      We don't live in an age of political literature anymore though, it's probably far better if you want to spread ideas to simplify them in simple articles or videos for the modern individual.

      [–]Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Ideologies are tailored for their times. Europe was experiencing world wars and communism was sweeping Europe. Which is why militant ideologies arose.

      We have new issues never faced before, therefore we need new solutions. In order to survive, one must adapt to the current environment to overcome it.

      Those that are fantasizing about a relic of the past are losers and will never win. An Ideology that lost, will never gain attraction as it has been stained.

      Its good to learn from the past and take what works and what doesn't. But we need something new.

      [–]antireddit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I didnt realize recommending mein kampf was a "thing". I would totally recommend against it. Not because I think it should be forbidden knowledge, but because there is so much baggage associated with it. I've never read it myself and have no desire to. I know what I know not because I read or watched someone elses propaganda, but because I can see it with my own two eyes.

      I'm J-woke because I noticed Every. Single. Time. long before I ever saw a meme about it, and I noticed the massive over representation in influential positions, which overwhelmingly pushed an agenda of hate against me and mine. In other words, because I notice things. Their biggest enemy are people who notice. Hitler and the nazis are just a distraction. Something they use to shut down the noticers.

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Optics aside, why bother? Hitler wasn't exactly an intellectual heavyweight.

      Why not Evola, Strasser, or any other political thinker? Hitler was just a populist.

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      Evola was a super-heavyweight intellectually. I'd admit, I barely understand him a lot of the time, and when I do, I get a headache. Could be I'm just thick, though. Strasser is a lot more easily understood, and I personally prefer his economic system, the problem is that most Neo-Strasserists end up translating their Anti-Hitlerism into Civic Nationalism.

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      It's recommended for the simple fact that it's the biggest fucking nono book that you're not supposed to read. The act of reading it and realizing that it is a totally normal guy saying normal true things is the redpill, not the content itself.

      If you don't see that you are concern trolling or some gay shit

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      This whole thread is crawling with gay, I feel like I stepped in a giant pile of shit

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      It's not even that good of an introduction to Fascism

      Hitler wasn't a fascist anyway.

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      I agree it doesn't really have a place on an introductory alt-Right reading list but is is of interest from a historic point of view

      Greg Johnson thinks Mein Kampf should be read if only to get some insight into polititical organizing. Something he is interested in doing.

      Counter Currents:

      I find it astonishing that many of today’s younger White Nationalists have read Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals but not Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf. I do not wish to denigrate Alinsky’s book, which should be required reading for all political activists and organizers. But Hitler was a formidable political organizer as well, and he recorded the insights he gained from his first four-and-a-half years of activism in Mein Kampf (My Struggle), which he wrote in prison in 1923-1924 and published in two volumes in 1925 and 1926. [Cont...]

      I confess I tried reading it but gave up half way through. I might appreciate it more now that I have greater understanding of the political issues of the time

      There are also a number of different translations — some of them are far more easy to read than others. Again I have no specific recommendations.