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[–]TurtleFuzz 53 insightful - 7 fun53 insightful - 6 fun54 insightful - 7 fun -  (6 children)

I like how that last guy thinks that pumping himself full of dangerous drugs and developing "breasts" is totally biologically natural. No, dude, your body is not "developing" breasts. The foreign estrogen is wreaking havoc on your body and you are experiencing side effects.

The insanity is so real.

[–]owmygenderfeels 29 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 0 fun30 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I don't know what he's thinking with that comment. It's not like manboobs are uncommon or unheard of.

[–]TurtleFuzz 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Right and men absolutely can get breast cancer too. But I think that guy really just wants "big ole tiddies" to play with lol

[–]fireweed 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's like Noelle (now "Gwen") from I am Jazz. He obviously just wanted a pussy to play with, and of course he just got mangled penis instead. These men are in a constant state of frustration because they never get what they want: to be their own female sex doll.

[–]jjdub7Gay Male Guest Commentator 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is so mind-boggling that AGPs would do this to this own body in pursuit of a damn fetish. How can medical credentialing orgs morally call this an exception from Body Integrity Identity Disorder (BIID)?

[–]VioletRemi 8 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

By this logic, all fat men are women too, because they have "big breasts" too, lol.

[–]materialrealityplz 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Or weightlifters... Those dudes develop huge pecks, like bigger than a lot of women.

[–]msteacherlady 39 insightful - 6 fun39 insightful - 5 fun40 insightful - 6 fun -  (8 children)

The ONE consistent thing I see across all of trans ideology is that breasts are female and an indicator of womanhood. Transwomen want 'em. Transmen can't wait to get rid of 'em.

The rest of seems to be hit or miss. The uterus, ovaries, penis, and balls, those may cause dysphoria, they may be referred to as a a female penis or male cervix, it's anyone's call.

But breasts...those are obviously female and female only gxrls!

I'm choosing to blame generations of cartoon animals with breasts.

[–]RedditHatesLesbians 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Because guys with moobs aren't a thing and women who have had mastectomies due to medical reasons clearly aren't women anymore... Let alone women with a naturally flat chest!

[–]msteacherlady 19 insightful - 8 fun19 insightful - 7 fun20 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

I wear a 38A, do powerlifting, and am a STEMnerd. I should just transition already. /s

[–]MarkTwainiac 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The uterus, ovaries, penis, and balls, those may cause dysphoria, they may be referred to as a a female penis or male cervix, it's anyone's call.

But breasts...those are obviously female and female only gxrls!

Huh? Gynecomastia - the medical condition whereby males experience significant development of the breasts, aka moobs - is extremely common, affecting 30% of males worldwide at some point during their lifetime. Whether it gets over-developed or not, all males still have breast tissue; and a tiny percentage of males will contract breast cancer.

You might wanna look gynecomastia up, and do an image search too.

As to the notion that using such terms as "female penis" and "male cervix" is "anyone's call," I beg to disagree. These are inaccurate terms, and it's damaging and potentially dangerous to use them.

For males and females alike, knowing and using the proper names for all our body parts is essential for self-esteem and a healthy body-image, which is one of the reasons learning all the names of our body parts is one of the first things kids are taught. It's also key to maintaining good health and hygiene; to being able to describe symptoms of health problems, and thus obtain proper medical care and accurate diagnoses; to having relationships with other people; to participating in athletics and many games; to learning and doing many skills; to caring for others; and even to adhering to the tenets of many religions (ablutions and all).

Words have commonly-understood and agreed upon meanings, and our body parts have specific names. It's not "anyone's call" to start claiming penises are female and cervixes are male, just as it's not anyone's call to redefine "woman" as "anyone who feels like or identifies as a woman" or "anyone who performs femininity."

[–]msteacherlady 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

To be clear I am saying that that TRAs are consistent that breasts are for women only, not that I think breast are only for women. I am very aware of gynecomastia, male breast cancer etc. and of course I do not use ridiculous terminology such as "female penis" in my own language.

What I am pointing out is this irony: Breasts, which are things that both men an women have, seem to be things that TRAs view as being a female-only body part.

Parts of anatomy such as genitals, which most of us recognize as being distinctly a part of one sex class or another, are viewed by TRAs as part of any sex class.

[–]MarkTwainiac 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Gotcha. Irony, satire, tongue-in-cheek often are not so easily discerned on social media. I made a post yesterday that I thought was clearly satirical and facetious, but it was taken seriously, at face value.

My apologies for not realizing your intent.

[–]msteacherlady 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

By the way, I love this community because we can just work to understand each other here. So different than Reddit where everyone's got an axe to grind. I've been appreciating your other posts where you talk about different DSDs.

[–]Shesstealthy 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

And yet so many fat men have moobs.

[–]materialrealityplz 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's a strange cognitive dissonance... There are men with huge moobs who don't wear a bra, or even an undershirt. But there are girls with little boobs who don't need a bra but wear one.

[–]owmygenderfeels 30 insightful - 5 fun30 insightful - 4 fun31 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

How that's why I won't date a trans women it's because it's not a women anytime someone say it like that y'all get offended by the truth

I'm sure all the world's trans women will be bummed to hear that.

OH SICK BURN, that's so funny, good one! 'Cause you know how TIMs have no interest in having sex with someone who doesn't want to have sex with them.

[–]sisterinsomnia 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah..
I have been told that this is the reason why we are not allowed to have a term which means biologically female. So we are then called vulva-owners or menstruators when such a term is needed.

A very tiny number of transgender women appear to be deciding on mainstream words and their meaning, at least in the Wokestan writings.

[–]materialrealityplz 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Don't some transwomen think they menstruate and/or have a vulva though? lmao. I'm sure some transwomen will find even those terms offensive for not including them. :P You can never satisfy a psychotic beast.

[–]MadLass 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes they definitely do. I have seen many of them say they are as much biologically female as one born that way. 🙄

[–][deleted] 16 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

On an r/NoStupidQuestions thread about whether it's acceptable to not want to date someone because they're trans

[–]LasagnaRossa 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Contrapoints said the same thing. You can't argue with this level of detachment from reality.

[–]TarshishJupiter 11 insightful - 7 fun11 insightful - 6 fun12 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, how would one even begin to combat this with a logical argument?

"I am biological, and I am a reptile, so therefore I am a biological reptile."

[–]TurtleFuzz 10 insightful - 6 fun10 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

I am biological, and I am made of carbon, therefore I am a deer lol

[–]materialrealityplz 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Female can't actually mean anything, because it's offensive to me, so stahp~ lmao. These people are so f*cking insane.

[–]jjdub7Gay Male Guest Commentator 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Prime evidence that yes, they are deliberately conflating 'gender' and sex. This was not an accidental use of terminology, i.e. "male"/"female" instead of "man"/"woman".

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

They never can quite explain away those xy chromosomes, can they? Idiots.

[–]QueenBread 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Oh, they can and will. Trust me. When I presented one of these crazies with the "XX and XY" argument, they went searching for some obscure research on some chromosomic malformation 0,00000000001% of males are born with to somehow demonstrate XX and XY don't count. Then that same person said they, too, don't have XY chromosomes despite being male. Because nobody ever did a dna test on them, so how can you prove they AREN'T males with XX chromosomes?? And then I got banned from the forum for actually engaging in discussion with that nutcase, as I was deemed - you guessed it - "transphobic".

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Oh wow. Sometimes, I don’t know how, I forget the lengths that they will go to attempt to “prove” that they are really women. 😂

[–]hfxB0oyA 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Ironic it should use the term "backwards ass", seeing as some TGs literally have a chunk of their colon sliced out and turned into their "neovagina".

[–]Kai_Decadence 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I got a headache just reading that. He's being ridiculous. What is a "female entity"? And of course he's gonna be using breast as a placeholder to define women. Nevermind that his "breasts" are not biologically natural and are just a result of drugs (Horse Urine at that). And like someone else pointed out, men can develop breast as well, usually overweight men develop "man boobs" so I mean...

[–]Marsupial 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If I want to date a woman I'll date a woman, not an autogynephilic or transsexual man. No amount of hormones or op will turn you into the other gender.

[–]materialrealityplz 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You'd think this would be common sense... and it was, until suddenly everyone downloaded the 'transwomen are women' cult software. :/

[–]Shesstealthy 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is Oger's argument isn't it?

[–]ANIKAHirsch 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you have to re-define every word in a given language to make your ideology make sense...

Yeah, I have no response.

These people are lost.