What are the arguments for segregation?

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[–]KimiORabu[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (59 children)

Why race and not "gender"?

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (58 children)

Gender too.

[–]KimiORabu[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

That's the spirit!

Birds of a feather flock together. People of the same type, race and "gender," are to mutually associate

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Right. Just culturally we get along it makes sense.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

This is ridiculous. The genetics of personality and temperment are more connected to specific bloodlines than race, and can very quickly mutate. That's why we have all these sweet pitbulls nowadays even though they were bred as fighting dogs. There are probably slight sex differences in the brain, but none significant enough to reliably detect; for comparison, you can easily detect whether someone has played Super Mario Bros. in a brain scan.

The person who is most like me out of anyone I've ever met is the opposite sex (admittedly I do have gender dysphoria). I don't know about race but it doesn't matter.

[–]KimiORabu[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That's ridiculous. The person who is most like me out of anyone I've ever met is the same sex

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The absence of evidence is not evidence to the contrary. The fact that I gave you even one example that doesn't follow your dichotomy disproves it.

[–]KimiORabu[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You're an outlier. Outliers don't disprove the dichotomy that works for most people

You shared your story, and I shared mine. Your story doesn't matter to me, when mine doesn't matter to you

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How do you know that I am an outlier?

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (50 children)

I can't believe even you are falling for this crap. The response to anti-white racism, for instance, is not becoming racist against blacks, or even "separate but equal". What was wrong with "colorblindness"? If we can stop trying to put ourselves above others, we will all always be on the winning side. But if not, the elites will use our infighting to their advantage.

The George Floyd riots were a psyop! They were trying to turn us racist because they knew we were the only ones left who didn't judge people by their skin color! Don't think that just because the media always sides with the left means they aren't manipulating the right either. They want everyone to vote for them to get more power. And what better way to trick them into doing that than to engineer conflict that only they can stop? Just like Palpatine.

I, the borderline schizo, feel like the only sane one left.

[–]EuropeanAwakening14 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (39 children)

Lmao there's no way you seriously believe this shot. The proper response to someone repeatedly punching you in the face is to defend yourself.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (38 children)

We are truly hopeless. No, you don't defend against tyranny with tyranny. You don't defend against prejudice with prejudice. You don't defend against injustice with injustice. You don't defend against evil with evil. Are people now incapable of seeing people as anything more than assets of a group? If you, in response to anti-white SJWs, respond by hating blacks, will this not only trigger them further and push them to even more extremity against whites? And will it not only feed into their narrative about those who don't bow to them, that we're all a bunch of white supremacists? How does this solve anything, and not make things even worse than they already were? Do not fight evil with evil, but overcome evil with good.

[–]EuropeanAwakening14 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

Advocating for my racial interests doesn't mean that I hate anyone or I'm a supremacist. Yawn. You don't even know what we believe. Go back to the drawing board and try again, bud. They already hate you for being White, dumbass. They literally celebrate when there are less White people. Less White people to them = less White supremacy. White people existing is White supremacy. How are there still people as naive as you after the past 10 years is beyond me.

You're just a liberal. You have a really strange attachment to 1960s era liberal.platitudes about racial equality and it's kind of weird because the system abandoned that rhetoric decades ago.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

Yeah, so both of you are idiots who think our lives should revolve around race and social classes instead of treating people like people.

This was the conservative position and still sort of is on this issue. But more and more people are abandoning it for an excuse to fight.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

We don't want to fight. We just want self determination. Africa for africans, Europe for Europeans, Asia for asians, etc

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Why is that necessary, to separate and exclude people for no reason?

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

You can have your multiethnic society too. We just don't want to live in it

[–]EuropeanAwakening14 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Why is race "no reason" to you?

[–]EuropeanAwakening14 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

This doesn't address anything that's been said. You're just calling everything evil and saying we want to kill all your precious blacks and fags. Literal nonsense responses.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Yeah, people being individuals with God-given rights, and authoritarian governments and discrimination and persecution and torture being wrong. What utter nonsense.

[–]KimiORabu[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It is utter nonsense. People don't have "god-given" rights. And authoritarianism isn't "wrong" in and of itself. We decide whether or not something is wrong

You decided it's wrong. I decided it isn't. Both libertarianism and authoritarianism are synonymous with breach of "right" to liberty. You "force" yourself on authoritarians, not letting them do what they want to do. Authoritarians "force" themselves on you, not letting you do what you want to do. I would go as far as to say libertarianism is authoritarian. Own up to it

[–]EuropeanAwakening14 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Who is talking about torturing people? Who said people can't be individuals? You're just spewing nonsense liberal slop.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Yes. I think you are correct, BUT we have passed the time to be civil. Like the other end is nuts.

You are male, right?

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

The solution isn't to become nuts ourselves.

I am male unfortunately, why?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Liberal? Democratic? Progressive?

The left has gone nuts. Political prosecutions, letting murders roam the streets, etc.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

And you think becoming the exact same way is going to solve anything?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

That’s like saying the civil war was one side becoming the exact same way.

Unfortunately, the left are violent lunatics. And it takes violence to stop it.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I don’t think I am above races. I think everyone has lost their mind.

Women are fucking slobs like me.

Blacks are beating Asians.

People defending themselves are going to jail for murder.

Also, it’s not safe to be unaware of black culture.

You can go into any other races culture in the US, and be fine. But everyone needs to be aware of black people.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I suppose you have to be careful around "hood" types, which are predominantly black. But that doesn't justify racial segregation.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Yea. Black children bring down the whole class room, the whole school. Until black people get their shit together, no Asian, no white, no Hispanic, should have to be forced to be around that kind of degeneracy.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

So let's not have such strict mandates aboit every single child going to school. If someone doesn't want to learn, they're out. Not an entire race collectively.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I understand that a mandate by race is overly large.

But when you behave as one unit, you get that treatment.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Not everyone does behave as one unit. Only leftists and BLM nuts.

[–]KimiORabu[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Says a leftist nut