What are the arguments for segregation?

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[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (50 children)

I can't believe even you are falling for this crap. The response to anti-white racism, for instance, is not becoming racist against blacks, or even "separate but equal". What was wrong with "colorblindness"? If we can stop trying to put ourselves above others, we will all always be on the winning side. But if not, the elites will use our infighting to their advantage.

The George Floyd riots were a psyop! They were trying to turn us racist because they knew we were the only ones left who didn't judge people by their skin color! Don't think that just because the media always sides with the left means they aren't manipulating the right either. They want everyone to vote for them to get more power. And what better way to trick them into doing that than to engineer conflict that only they can stop? Just like Palpatine.

I, the borderline schizo, feel like the only sane one left.

[–]EuropeanAwakening14 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (39 children)

Lmao there's no way you seriously believe this shot. The proper response to someone repeatedly punching you in the face is to defend yourself.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (38 children)

We are truly hopeless. No, you don't defend against tyranny with tyranny. You don't defend against prejudice with prejudice. You don't defend against injustice with injustice. You don't defend against evil with evil. Are people now incapable of seeing people as anything more than assets of a group? If you, in response to anti-white SJWs, respond by hating blacks, will this not only trigger them further and push them to even more extremity against whites? And will it not only feed into their narrative about those who don't bow to them, that we're all a bunch of white supremacists? How does this solve anything, and not make things even worse than they already were? Do not fight evil with evil, but overcome evil with good.

[–]EuropeanAwakening14 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

Advocating for my racial interests doesn't mean that I hate anyone or I'm a supremacist. Yawn. You don't even know what we believe. Go back to the drawing board and try again, bud. They already hate you for being White, dumbass. They literally celebrate when there are less White people. Less White people to them = less White supremacy. White people existing is White supremacy. How are there still people as naive as you after the past 10 years is beyond me.

You're just a liberal. You have a really strange attachment to 1960s era liberal.platitudes about racial equality and it's kind of weird because the system abandoned that rhetoric decades ago.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

Yeah, so both of you are idiots who think our lives should revolve around race and social classes instead of treating people like people.

This was the conservative position and still sort of is on this issue. But more and more people are abandoning it for an excuse to fight.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

We don't want to fight. We just want self determination. Africa for africans, Europe for Europeans, Asia for asians, etc

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Why is that necessary, to separate and exclude people for no reason?

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

You can have your multiethnic society too. We just don't want to live in it

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

If we can have our multiethnic society, then why are you trying to take over the United States of America and other multiethnic societies?

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

am I? I live in Denmark

I just want my home country for my own people. It is not too much to ask. You can make your own multiethnic country. Don't invade ours.

[–]EuropeanAwakening14 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Why is race "no reason" to you?

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you have a reason that's yours to explain. You don't get to have your position presumed and the burden of proof always on everyone else.

[–]EuropeanAwakening14 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

This doesn't address anything that's been said. You're just calling everything evil and saying we want to kill all your precious blacks and fags. Literal nonsense responses.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Yeah, people being individuals with God-given rights, and authoritarian governments and discrimination and persecution and torture being wrong. What utter nonsense.

[–]KimiORabu[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It is utter nonsense. People don't have "god-given" rights. And authoritarianism isn't "wrong" in and of itself. We decide whether or not something is wrong

You decided it's wrong. I decided it isn't. Both libertarianism and authoritarianism are synonymous with breach of "right" to liberty. You "force" yourself on authoritarians, not letting them do what they want to do. Authoritarians "force" themselves on you, not letting you do what you want to do. I would go as far as to say libertarianism is authoritarian. Own up to it

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

People have God-given rights. And if not, it's simply common sense. We don't want to be harmed, so let's not harm each other if possible.

[–]KimiORabu[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's not common sense. It's an opinion. And who said I don't want to be "harmed"? People make me want to bang my head against a wall and cut myself, which I do, and I still get in useless "discussions" with them

[–]EuropeanAwakening14 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Who is talking about torturing people? Who said people can't be individuals? You're just spewing nonsense liberal slop.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you're seeing everyone in social categories, you aren't seeing individuals.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Yes. I think you are correct, BUT we have passed the time to be civil. Like the other end is nuts.

You are male, right?

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

The solution isn't to become nuts ourselves.

I am male unfortunately, why?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Liberal? Democratic? Progressive?

The left has gone nuts. Political prosecutions, letting murders roam the streets, etc.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

And you think becoming the exact same way is going to solve anything?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

That’s like saying the civil war was one side becoming the exact same way.

Unfortunately, the left are violent lunatics. And it takes violence to stop it.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Even if that's true, it doesn't justify adopting a literal mirror of their ideology.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I’m not, they need to be stopped. They allow violence in the streets, and they are maiming children.

I disagree with your laziefare type of approach.

They need to be stopped.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I don’t think I am above races. I think everyone has lost their mind.

Women are fucking slobs like me.

Blacks are beating Asians.

People defending themselves are going to jail for murder.

Also, it’s not safe to be unaware of black culture.

You can go into any other races culture in the US, and be fine. But everyone needs to be aware of black people.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I suppose you have to be careful around "hood" types, which are predominantly black. But that doesn't justify racial segregation.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Yea. Black children bring down the whole class room, the whole school. Until black people get their shit together, no Asian, no white, no Hispanic, should have to be forced to be around that kind of degeneracy.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

So let's not have such strict mandates aboit every single child going to school. If someone doesn't want to learn, they're out. Not an entire race collectively.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I understand that a mandate by race is overly large.

But when you behave as one unit, you get that treatment.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Not everyone does behave as one unit. Only leftists and BLM nuts.

[–]KimiORabu[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Says a leftist nut

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You know, it's funny how when I'm talking to leftists I'm ultra far right and literally Hitler, and when I'm talking to the alt right I'm leftist commie nut. While hating both of those things. It's almost like people no longer tolerate any position outside of pure partisanship.

[–]KimiORabu[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Centrists are like that. They are too alt-right to be leftist and too leftist to be alt-right