Like a Gerbil Scratching at the Glass Bottom of an Aquarium - Andrew Anglin. (epic summation on modern broken sexual marketplace)

submitted by send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist from self.debatealtright

Very little here I disagree with. Anglin did a nice walk-through on our current situation. I've always said the gender red pill is a prerequisite for the racial redpill and this article would be a nice primer article for young men looking at our ideas. Please back up and share.

https://dailystormer.su/like-a-gerbil-scratching-at-the-glass-bottom-of-an-aquarium/

edit. If anyone would like me to post the entire article as text only on saidit let me know.

edit. 2 Cross posted at https://ruqqus.com/+DebateTheDissidentRight/post/8mp6/like-a-gerbil-scratching-at-the

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[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Its a shame Anglin doesn't use comedy and comic sketches anymore. He was unironically one of the funniest guys on the internet. Now he's found Jesus and become more serious. His wicked style of humor is the reason why the Stormer developed a readership of millions at one point.

He had real talent, like Roosh. Sad to see both of them dump their talent for humor for ''Christ"

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I never found the "humor" in Anglin. I don't think he is a fed but if I was a fed and wanted to create a white nationalist site it would look like thedailystormer.

[–]TheJamesRocket 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Its a shame Anglin doesn't use comedy and comic sketches anymore. He was unironically one of the funniest guys on the internet.

Speaking of that, did you hear about how Anglin spent his time in Asia? Apparently, he developed a severe case of yellow fever. Anglin couldn't get enough of those Fillipino girls. He would prowl the streets at night and ask: ''Where dem Asian women at?''

Theres actually a video of him being caught while trafficking women. Shocking stuff!

[–]asterias 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Spending time around Asian women makes you realize even harder what's the problem with white women.

Just flood Europe with Asian women and watch how white women lose all their appetite for "refugees wellcome" rhetorics.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I don't need gender red pills from Anglin, though it wasn't as cringe as I was expecting. I guess since he has found Jesus he has had to tone down his rhetoric and no longer posting edgy articles about raping and beating white women.

The problem with the far right figures who obsess about women is they present a false picture of the current situation. When you read or listen to them you presented with a world view in which white men are good guys on our side and women are bad and on the opposite side.

I always say, fix the problems with men then the "women issue" solves itself.

[–]AidsVictim69 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I always say, fix the problems with men then the "women issue" solves itself.

I dislike this way of thinking. It's true white men have a lot of problems in modern America, but just putting a morally decent, hardworking, in shape white guy in front of a white woman won't "fix" her. Lots of them are far too brain damaged by media and the academic experience for any simple solution.

Tons of modern women are incapable of holding a really long term relationship, men have no value to them beyond a sort of consumerist mindset, they do not think of building families as a lifelong project and commitment, just a lifestyle choice until they get bored. Their brains are fried by consumerism and cannot be fixed by just being confident and generally successful as is often implied.

Specific to white women, many have a lifelong guilt complex instilled in them. They grow to hate their own skin color, hate their own men, fetishize blacks, and act in non white interests over their own families. There is no saving these women, it's just a generation of white women where a large portion will never have healthy families, much less healthy white families.

The implication behind this attitude is always that the female mind is so simple it just needs a strong man to fix it. Human minds of both genders are much too complex for such a simple solution, to think otherwise is just wishful thinking.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You embrace a far right wing propaganda version of white women who are not more anti white than white men despite being more active in woke politics. They are not highly active in far right politics because they are more conformist and it is highly demonized, along with the hostile rhetoric and scapegoating directed at women from the far right. When you look at opinion polls white women's political and culture views do not vary significantly from white men.

It is not common for them to want black men or any minority men, if fact it is white men who more often fetishize non white women including right wing men. White women race mix less than any other demographic.

putting a morally decent, hardworking, in shape white guy in front of a white woman won't "fix" her.

That is not the argument. It is not about the individual. Men are the foundation, their character and beliefs determine the character of the society. If it goes wrong it is because of the character of the male population. There is no culture of virtuous men and corrupt women. Maybe you are someone who thinks women have always been trash but if you think women were better and more feminine in past eras not coincidentally during those same eras the men would also be of a better and more masculine character.

[–]AidsVictim69 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You embrace a far right wing propaganda version of white women who are not more anti white than white men despite being more active in woke politics. They are not highly active in far right politics because they are more conformist and it is highly demonized, along with the hostile rhetoric and scapegoating directed at women from the far right. When you look at opinion polls white women's political and culture views do not vary significantly from white men.

You could find far more white women marching in the BLM protests this year than white men. It's more commonly white women who get neurotic about the idea of being white and internalize guilt about it. It's a notably larger percentage that self describes as liberal and they always lead over white men on "left" social issues. I'm not trying to paint all white women with the same brush but white men need to be realistic about the issues they face in finding compatible partners. Yes they will shift rightwards a bit when they get married (assuming the guy is rightwing) and yes a degree of this is just conformity with what the media pushes but that doesn't help the average single white guy.

It is not common for them to want black men or any minority men, if fact it is white men who more often fetishize non white women including right wing men. White women race mix less than any other demographic.

In dating and sex for the most part women are the selectors and men the selected. Asian women seek out white men strongly and so you get lots of this combination - nerd white men who were rejected by white women and selected by Asian women. There's not much to say about right wing men that go in for this except they're hypocrites and don't belong in such a community.

Likewise in any urban center or college town with a significant black population you will see quite a few white women selecting black guys. That's just the reality of living in mixed race areas (which is almost every modern American city). And it's not uncommon that the white woman in the pairing is decently attractive and obviously could have gotten a decent white guy if she wanted unlike the previous nerd white guy-Asian woman combination.

That is not the argument. It is not about the individual. Men are the foundation, their character and beliefs determine the character of the society. If it goes wrong it is because of the character of the male population. There is no culture of virtuous men and corrupt women. Maybe you are someone who thinks women have always been trash but if you think women were better and more feminine in past eras not coincidentally during those same eras the men would also be of a better and more masculine character.

You've abstracted this so far that a statement like "fix mens problems" is meaningless because it just become about fixing everything wrong with society. Well of course if you "fix" that then most problems either gender faces will fade away. This is completely useless advice since we are not anywhere close to that and only traveling further from some idealized society. Men have to survive in the society that exists now and for the foreseeable future.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You could find far more white women marching in the BLM protests this year than white men. It's more commonly white women who get neurotic about the idea of being white and internalize guilt about it. It's a notably larger percentage that self describes as liberal and they always lead over white men on "left" social issues.

As I said women are more conformist. They are not inherently more leftist but this is what our culture promotes as what you are supposed to be. However the difference today in men and women of the same race on cultural issues are not as distinct as some imply.

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

since he has found Jesus

The most suspicious/cynical things this guy has done.

[–]TheJamesRocket 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't need gender red pills from Anglin, though it wasn't as cringe as I was expecting. I guess since he has found Jesus he has had to tone down his rhetoric and no longer posting edgy articles about raping and beating white women.

Honestly, most of us in the far right have quibbles with our women. They have abandoned all of their traditional female responsibilitys, while still expecting men to maintain their own masculine responsibilitys. Anglin kindof crosses the line in his criticism of white women, although some of his detractions are undoubtedly true.

When you read or listen to them you presented with a world view in which white men are good guys on our side and women are bad and on the opposite side.

Well, white women kindof have betrayed their men. They show no respect whatsoever to men in general, let alone to men in their personal lives. Their female brains have been completely warped by social media.

[–]asterias 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What is the problem with men that needs fixing? Decent men are laughed at for not being "good enough" by used up sluts who have literally nothing to offer in a relationship, yet are after "the man who can cover their needs" and basically doesn't exist. Not to mention that white women are rivaled only by LGBT in participating the various antifascist-antiracist protests and leftist ideology.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What is the problem with men that needs fixing?

Do you think our corrupt culture and its values could exist if modern men weren't a problem? The state of our society is proof that men need to change because they either support it or allow it. If we were to somehow replace all western men of today with western men from just 100 years ago our whole culture would immediately change because the character of men would have changed and they would never tolerate this sick world.

[–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Western men from just 100 years ago are the ones who gave women "rights". Now you can have as many decent men as you want, and they will end up alone because women have the freedom to share the men they deem as "funny" or "worthy" or whatever.

[–]Sonofzeus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You’re not wrong.

The problem with women today is a direct byproduct of men degenerating into effeminate weaklings. If more guys took care of themselves and lived a more pious lifestyle, women would follow.

Instead we have boomer men abandoning their families to go engage in sex tourism in Southeast Asia.. or buy a motorcycle and start acting like a 20 year old again- abdicating on their responsibilities to lead their families. If it’s not this, it’s some defeatist men’s rights/MGTOW nonsense where they think like spoiled little boys and have 0 self awareness and take 0 responsibility of agency in whatever mess they find themselves in.

The fact that grown men spend hours of their days playing video games says a lot about the current state of our culture.

[–]TheJamesRocket 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have peers, people in my age range, some slightly older and some slightly younger, who keep having “girlfriends.” They move in with these women, as if they are married, but they do not produce children. After a while, it always ends, usually in a psycho performative spectacle by the woman.

I have observed this in my own life too. Family members and friends having relationship problems. Most of the time these fights are caused by the woman, who feels unhappy for any one of an infinite number of reasons. Just a few weeks ago, one of my friends got arrested by the cops and put in jail after his girlfriend went psycho on him. He was physically attacked by her, and yet he spent the weekend in jail, and was slapped with a restraining order.

My belief is that most women have deeply internalised the misandric beliefs of 3rd wave feminists. They view men themselves as a problem to be endlessly pathologized and excoriated.

[–]GConly 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

As much as “free love” was touted, women never intended to give away sex for free. So what we end up with is a situation where women practicing birth control use men as emotional, and often financial, slaves.

Virtually every couple I've known that cohabits splits bills pretty evenly.

What's amusing me us that in cohabiting couples men do less than half of the household tasks, and simply living with a woman increases his life span and decreases hers.

So feel free to fuck off and not bother us.

[–]EuropeanAwakening14 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Lol. Look an angry, disgusting feminist piece of scum. Women make 90% of household purchasing decisions. That means using men's money, sweetheart. Women also work less so they can do household tasks although every woman whose apartment I've been to in my life has lived like a disgusting slob.

Women are also net negative tax contributors. That means using men's money again, sweetheart. Men also have a lower life expectancy than women probably because men have to do all of the actual difficult, Back breaking and poisonous chemically involved labor that slowly deteriorates your body and kills you at a young age, including 90%+ deaths on the job being men. So, maybe women doing a little more household chores is just them doing their fair share?

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I love it when that topic comes up as well. Women literally live because men slave away to create a system that can sustain a functioning society and they sit there bitching about how they still have to do the washing up.

[–]GConly 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Women make 90% of household purchasing decisions.

They buy the groceries, family clothes and pay the bills you half wit. It's not going on shoes and eyeliner.

Women are also net negative tax contributors. That means using men's money again, sweetheart.

Because they are stuck at home taking care of the kids, and a big chunk of that cash goes to the kids.

Men also have a lower life expectancy than women

Actually because they are more likely to abuse drugs, get involved in crime, have X linked health problems and drive recklessly.

including 90%+ deaths on the job being men.

And men take those dangerous jobs because you can get a decent wage blue collar with no college degree. Also because a lot of men actively enjoy risk taking.

So, yeah the guys need to do the fucking dishes.

[–]FriedrichLudwig 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't get it, you seem pretty anti-left by your post history, but here you are just spewing typical anti-male feminist bullshit. You must feel confused.

Edit: ah, you're a TERF. You're useless to us regardless of your anti-trans views.

[–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

are just spewing typical anti-male feminist bullshit

I'm posting accurate data to correct your misinformation. Triggered much?

Do you want sources, because I check literally every fact.

Btw, it's not 90% of spending.

Leading gender analysts Catalyst.Org, estimates that, on average, 67% of all UK Household consumption is controlled or influenced by women.

Bloomberg puts it about about 70-80%

Some data on how this money gets spent.

https://www.royallondon.com/media/press-releases/press-releases-2020/january2/how-men-and-women-divide-the-household-money-chores-revealed---royal-london-research/

Women living with their partner overwhelmingly take control of two money chores – the day-to-day spending (the “purse strings”) (55 per cent of women versus 31 per cent of men living with a partner say it’s their responsibility),

Like I said, it's groceries and the like. Want to have more control? Buy the food yourself.

I can find the data on the deaths too.

Why men often die earlier than women

Why Men Die Younger Than Women

The top three causes of death contributing to higher mortality in males than in females were heart disease, road injuries, and lung cancers.

Danger zone: Men, masculinity and occupational health and safety in high risk occupations

In general, men have demonstrated that they are more likely than women to engage in risky activities, such as smoking, alcohol overuse and unsafe sexual practices (Dolan, 2011; Creighton and Oliffe, 2010). Conversely, men are less likely than women to engage in health seeking and health promotion behaviours (Berger et al., 2005; Addis and Mahalik, 2003).

If you want to know how male risk taking leads to excess male deaths, I suggest you look at the list of deaths in Disneyland. Some tragedies, but mostly 14-24 yo males farting about.

If you look at the dangerous jobs, a lot of them are self employed, or very outdoors types working heavy machinery. Ignoring safety regs is a big issue in deaths there. Men are attracted to these jobs, idk why. Mix of pay, personal freedom, and no office bs I guess.

Next time check your facts before you spew.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's funny because people are always saying that the opinions of people like us are driven by some personal pathology, emotional problem or just basic hatred of women yet I don't find that as much here. Unlike your comment which is dripping with disdain and personal animus towards men. Not to get all MRA hour on this WN website but it seems to be true that so much of the sexual politics in this society is, despite the popular myth espoused probably by you and others, driven by rage towards men.

[–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, I was just irritated by that drivel sodden moron posting half truths. And the OP. Same thing.

I see so much mangled or out of context data from MRAs it irritates the crap out of me.

It's like that stat you see about women's healthcare getting more dollars. Which is actually mostly going on obstetrics, and I assume you want your babies to live...

When you look at the sex specific cancer diagnosis/treatment spending, it turns out the extra cash is spent because it's a function of greater years of life lost (breast and cervical cancer hit younger).

YOLL is a big thing in calculating health spending. You don't pump cash into treating people in their late seventies and on. Once you balance for that, its the same.

Plus checking for prostate or testicular cancer involves low tech groping and poking.

It's not men that irritate me, it's idiots. I'm perfectly happy to shred vegans, TRAs, Wokebros, and some of the dumb shit radical feminists come out with. I'm an equal opportunity misanthrope.

[–]aukofthecovenantWhite man with eyes 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They buy the groceries, family clothes and pay the bills you half wit. It's not going on shoes and eyeliner. Because they are stuck at home taking care of the kids, and a big chunk of that cash goes to the kids. Actually because they are more likely to abuse drugs, get involved in crime, have X linked health problems and drive recklessly. And men take those dangerous jobs because you can get a decent wage blue collar with no college degree. Also because a lot of men actively enjoy risk taking.

That all checks out.

So, yeah the guys need to do the fucking dishes.

Non sequitur, or just rhetoric?

[–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just a moment of irritation at having waded through the garbage article.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

simply living with a woman increases his life span and decreases hers.

This seems questionable.

https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/news/20191010/marriage-tied-to-longer-life-span-new-data-shows

[–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, that paper puts life insurance down as a major player.

Paul Dolan, LSE:

[Men calm down], take less risks, earn more money at work, and live a little longer. [Women], on the other hand, has to put up with that, and dies sooner than if she never married. The healthiest and happiest population subgroup are women who never married or had children."

Friedman found the same thing.

Also: Marriage helps husbands to an extra 1.7 years, but it knocks 1.4 years off the average wife's lifespan.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/24059308_The_gender_longevity_gap_Explaining_the_dierence_between_singles_and_couples

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/24059308_The_gender_longevity_gap_Explaining_the_dierence_between_singles_and_couples

Two potential issues I notice right away:

  • They're only looking at people who are already 65 years old or above (in Switzerland, during two years)

  • They define "married couple" so as to include divorcees and widows/widowers

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    [–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I argue with everyone.

    Btw, sources.

    [–]DisgustResponse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Go be an unfuckable dyke somewhere else.

    [–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Married woman, kids. Husband currently pouty because I've been to ill for sex this past week.

    That attempt didn't even come close to landing. LOL.

    [–]DisgustResponse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I would feel sorry for your husband, but he probably deserves you.

    [–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    He seems happy enough.

    [–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    With the caged gerbils analogy, I thought he was going to discuss the whole incel violence phenomena that we're supposedly seeing.