Am I transphobic if I don’t want to have sex with trans women? The answer is "complex" and somewhat rapey.

saged · 2020-09-17T20:21:31+00:00

I find it so disgusting how they add violence commented against them in these conversations. The people harming transwomen physically aren't lesbians who won't sleep with them. It's men who sleep with them, get tricked or are homophobic & hateful. However sometimes it feels like lesbians not wanting to sleep with them is on the same level as men killing and harming them to some of these trans folks.

saged · 2020-09-12T18:42:55+00:00

Both groups share the love of women born women so they came together. It also proves how straight men (and truly straight men) aren't really touched by TRAs. They are often confused when people bring up what's going on with lesbians, you'd think the same would be done to straight men, but I guess it's harder to bully straight men into accepting people born male as women they should date/sleep with then it is for a group of men to bully lesbians/women.

Trans men get told to fuck off by gay men all the time, yet there's gay TRA's who are yelling about Terfs and lesbians. I've seen straight men say trans women are women, just not women they want to date or have sex with. We all know what happens when Lesbians say that though. Even straight women aren't expected to date trans men and are not shamed for it. In fact thinking about it, I don't think I've ever seen anyone complain or push trans men/women dating.

saged · 2020-09-05T12:06:39+00:00

This person is a 13 year old who said that he was helped by r/feemagers to come to the conclusion that he is trans 2 months agp. So read those comments and realize that a group of men who ALSO think they are women and apart of the lesbian community, are hugboxxing a 13 year old boy, who looks like a 13 year old boy into thinking he's now 100% a woman and will be accepted as such and anyone who does not are evil terfs, who don't see he's a women. This is sick.

saged · 2020-09-03T16:52:19+00:00

or just go to the other fucking sites/places he and his gang have taken over. It's just like r/gaybros one SMALL space on the internet isn't 100% what they want so they run in and try to either take it over, change it or get it banned. There's plenty of spaces for them, both spaces they took by force or that was created for them.

Lowkey, I think it bothers them that once they take over a space, most of the Cis women leave and transbiens take over. Since most are straight men, they want to be with the women, not with their fellow trans.

saged · 2020-08-30T20:49:46+00:00

"people aren't validating me 100%!!!! Please don't ever say what you do or don't like!!" It makes me sick seeing these lesbians (who probably aren't even ACTUAL lesbians just dickless trans women) going, "Lots of lesbian like girls with dicks. Some lesbians just don't like men with penises but they like penis if it's attached to a girl" that shit is so stupid to me.

You can tell the actual women feel stupid even saying the shit, even if they believe it, I bet it's like, "Am I really apologizing as a lesbian for not wanting dick in my life?" ALso who cares how lesbians feel about not being able to NEVER talk about not wanting "girl cock", they either have to be okay with it or don't say anything at all. It's crazy seeing them constantly want people to "Validate" them, even if it's a lie. They NEED to know that cis lesbians will validate them as actual lesbians and sleep with them. Then they keep lying and pretending that there's so many lesbians down with the trans shit. again, one minute, no one likes them, the next,"There's SO many lesbians who like women with penises!!" stop lying to these people, those people aren't lesbians.

saged · 2020-08-28T21:04:32+00:00

The first time I ever questioned anything trans was when this person I went to school with posted a picture of james charles going, "Since you guys don't get it, this is a feminine gay man. A straight man or lesbian would NOT be attracted to this person because they do not like men" So gay men, bisexuals and "pansexuals" would.

and then they had the same picture going, "If this were a trans woman, then gay men and straight women would NOT be attracted to them because they are female, it does not matter what a trans person looks like. If they say they are something then they are"

And it was the dumbest shit I've ever seen. Basically they were saying that if James charles said, "hey i'm trans now!" and just stayed his make up wearing self, then that means NO men would be attracted to him unless they were straight and all gay boys who liked him would no longer like him or would be forced to identify as straight or bisexual.

that and "not dating trans is transphobic" were some of the first things that made me give the movement a major side-eye.

saged · 2020-08-19T17:28:02+00:00

It makes no sense for the "transwomen are women" crowd, but I've heard of transwomen who say they are women on gay/bisexual apps, which tbh, if they like men it's best they go for men who are into them which would be a gay/bisexual men. People love to make this myth that NO gay man would be into a transwomen, and they'd rather be with a trans man.

Do people not know that transwomen have always been in gay bars, hanging with gay men, looking for gay/bisexual guys? When i used to go to gay clubs with my friend, i'd always see transwomen there. Gay men don't even kick ACTUAL women out of clubs even though they may not want them there all the time. That makes zero sense.

It's more TRA's pushing that they are women, so gay men have no use for them like they feel gay men have no use for women, when it's not true at ALL. There was a youtube whose boyfriend only dated men before they got with a trans girl, they were claiming he was "Straight" and i'm like, "no, he obviously likes dick havers, you have a dick, he's gay/bisexual but he's just dating a feminine dude now"

saged · 2020-08-19T17:21:18+00:00

"If all these types of women are women! Then transwomen are women too!" makes zero sense and is lowkey offensive.

saged · 2020-08-18T18:03:08+00:00

Here they go with that racism and masculizing black women, they choose black women because they feel we are close to transwomen aka men. They aren't saying it because we're opressed, they are saying it because, "if black women can be women, why can't we?"

saged · 2020-08-18T17:50:12+00:00

Again here they go with the, "Everyone but YOU is with the program, Terfs are the crazy ones, lesbians love us!!" until next week it's "Everyone hates us and LGB is full of terfs and transphobes!"

Lesbians had no CHoicE in accepting transwomen, at least in 95% of online spaces. Men just came into women spaces and forced them not only to accept them in that space, but maybe even consider dating them or at the very least say you would. Then all the women who don't want to be apart of it just leave, are shunned or flat out banned, so it's left with 75% transbiens and very few lesbians. Look at reddit, almost every reddit for females has trans women as mods, every female reddit has rules to accept transwomen or get lost. You can get banned for saying certain things about trans folxs. It wasn't accepting. It wasn't learned. It was get with the program or get out.

Straight men aren't forced to accept transwomen as women/spouses, but lesbians and gays are? Every single, "Would you date a transwoman?" post when it's focused toward men is a question, with lesbians/gays it's, "It's okay not to want to date us, but you are transphobic if your reasoning is..."

saged · 2020-08-17T19:25:09+00:00

Men are allowed to not say anything or say empty words about trans topics. They aren't expected to allow trans men in their spaces, they aren't expected to open up their dating pool to transwomen or trans men. Women ARE expected. Women who are lesbians HAVE to allow transwomen in, men who are straight/bisexual/gay don't have to let trans men or transwomen in.

Of course men wanting to watch actual lesbians don't want to watch two transwomen because they know they aren't lesbians. I bet some transbiens are in those subs as well.

saged · 2020-08-17T19:01:05+00:00

he's trolling I feel (or he's as crazy as he looks) but I doubt those people (even if some are bots) are trolling. They hate TERFS aka women so much they'll like any tweet thats talking shit about them. Funny, the people most likely to murder/harm transwomen are men but they have all this unfiltered hate for women all year round. A man kills a transwomen? Indya Moore and the blue Check gang only care for a few tweets, then they are back to blaming cis women for everything. Hate for us is a year long 24/7 thing for them.

saged · 2020-08-17T18:55:44+00:00

looking through this person twitter, I can't tell if they are a troll or being 100% serious, they say the dumbest shit. Here's examples of "Lesbian Culture" that transwomen have created according to Peter Griffen-

"some examples: indie gaming, queer comics and animation, makeup trends started by trans women, high femme aesthetic, calling yourself a top/bottom/switch, changing your name and/or pronouns, body positivity and autonomy, gender freedom and diversity, witchcraft"

Because I can't tell if this person is being honest or trolling, i'm not going to give them anymore attention, sad thing is there's people in the comments agreeing with them. How hateful.

saged · 2020-08-17T18:38:26+00:00

I've actually seen one transwoman getting upset about WAP, when I brought up that transwomen can have "WAP" ( i wasn't being serious) as well I was told there wasn't one trans representation in the video or the lyrics and the song was focused on "cis bodies". Honestly? I think they know either to pretend that WAP implies to them, their neo-vaginas and Girl Dicks, or just shut up. If they fight this fight, they'll have to fight years and years of hip hop/rap not being "trans inclusive" and that would be them basically calling out MEN, mainly men of color. We all know they won't call out men and men won't allow it. At best the female artists will cave and the men? They'll either generically pander, or they'll start saying how they feel about I have seen people call Cardi B transphobic though for other reasons.

I have no idea why the fuck it's empowering or feminist, it's a song about sex, there's PLENTY of songs about sex. I think people are making it that way because there's been push back, so they are going, "it's empowering!!"

to who? There's thousands of songs from male and female artists that are about sex & the focus is women or women's bodies. It's a stupid tacky song, but then again, of COURSE people would want something like this to be seen as "Feminism".

The fact cardi has said things that people felt were "transphobic" is proof, how little libfems truly care about their transwomen anyway.

saged · 2020-08-16T23:59:20+00:00

I wonder why those people call it "Dating", when most the time, it's hook ups that last for a few days/weeks until these men go home to their actual lives. The transwomen I spoke to would brag about these things, while i'm sitting there watching him and a few other trans thinking, "Yall think people are jealous or envious, that these men use your bodies, and then go back to living normal lives with the actual women (or men) they want to be with?" but then again, I remember transwomen are men, so they brag on their penis (or lack of penis) and how much sex they are having. Not only are they having sex with multiple people, but they are getting paid in money or attention, so like men, they'll brag about it.

Sounds like a sad life, but some seem to enjoy it until they are old, alone and have to settle with some old white dude they aren't really attracted too and has mental issues.

saged · 2020-08-16T02:29:49+00:00

TBH a lot of these old white guys might be hitting up some transwomen on the low, back when I was cool with a trans escort online they showed me their inbox trying to brag and it was full of old white men.

saged · 2020-08-14T21:59:27+00:00

Fuck trans men being men? Guess they don't matter, either everyone assumes we accept trans men as men or the truth, the movement does not care about women and is focused on men.

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