Gay Men/r/askgaybros again under relentless attack from the valid uwu brigade

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[–]bastetkat 50 insightful - 10 fun50 insightful - 9 fun51 insightful - 10 fun -  (36 children)

It isn’t. Short women are women. Tall women are women. Large women are women. Disabled women are women. Lesbian women are women. Bisexual women are women. And yes, Trans women are women.

Someone pls make it stop. I'm so tired. 😩 And lol @ the fact that they made a post about "transwomen are women" on a sub called askgaybros.

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 28 insightful - 2 fun28 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

That's what I was wondering. The OP has a male name too (gaelic prince) so why not "Trans men are men"? Why cry about trans women in a sub for people who according to the current laws of trans, don't have to be attracted to trans women yet? I mean... Yes, it's coming, soon it's gonna be:

Gay men like trans men and trans men are actually women but we aren't allowed to say that, and gay men like cis men and cis men have penis, so if gay men don't like trans women, that's transphobic uwu.

[–]8bitgay 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Ah, but you can bet that these people think it's ok for trans women to be in gay dating apps and in gay bars. They aren't very consistent in their demands.

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 28 insightful - 2 fun28 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Seriously that was the stupidest plotline in Pose. The main character, a trans-lady, decides "she's" going to go sit in a gay bar and make all the gay dudes miserable for no reason, and of course it was depicted like "she" is the hero and the gay guys are the big meanies for kicking "her" out. Like... Hello? Didn't you say you're a woman??? So what are you doing in a gay bar? Why would gay dudes want women in the gay bar?

They want to have their cake and eat it too. They want to be "women", but they know the only chance they have at a boyfriend is a man who likes dick, whether it be a gay/bi bro, or a straight weirdo with a fetish.

[–]saged 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It makes no sense for the "transwomen are women" crowd, but I've heard of transwomen who say they are women on gay/bisexual apps, which tbh, if they like men it's best they go for men who are into them which would be a gay/bisexual men. People love to make this myth that NO gay man would be into a transwomen, and they'd rather be with a trans man.

Do people not know that transwomen have always been in gay bars, hanging with gay men, looking for gay/bisexual guys? When i used to go to gay clubs with my friend, i'd always see transwomen there. Gay men don't even kick ACTUAL women out of clubs even though they may not want them there all the time. That makes zero sense.

It's more TRA's pushing that they are women, so gay men have no use for them like they feel gay men have no use for women, when it's not true at ALL. There was a youtube whose boyfriend only dated men before they got with a trans girl, they were claiming he was "Straight" and i'm like, "no, he obviously likes dick havers, you have a dick, he's gay/bisexual but he's just dating a feminine dude now"

[–]artetolife 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

This was once true but I don't see it anymore. Back in the day TW would hang out in gay bars because they lived most of their lives as gay men and that's where all their friends were, plus they were the only bars they could go to and not be ridiculed. These days if anyone said something mean to a trans person there'd be a pinknews article about it, the offender would be harrassed online and probably fired.

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Haha you're right, I would at least see some drag queens there (or maybe I just assumed they were drag queens I guess.)

Here's the scene. It's way more cringier than I remembered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVzJsi2mhMw

[–]8bitgay 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"I'm sorry, we're not in drag, we're women" "Even better, we don't like women in here, we're a gay bar"

Wow, it's just like you said in response to me above. So you have to respect them as women... But you're also meant to accept them in a space where women aren't allowed? So, which one is it? Would they like it better if the waiter hd said "sorry, didn't notice you were a guy, now you're welcome here"?

And ugh the part about racism. They really needed to do that, uh? They always tie their issues with some other social issues too. So if someone points out how problematic the scene is, they can say "oh, so you think it's ok to segregate black people?".

[–]blackrainbow 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's the same with ftms, they have always been in lesbian clubs or bars and there's nothing wrong with that. They lived a significant portion of their lives as lesbians, it's easy to relate with them

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    [–][deleted] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    That must be the most narcissistic piece of writing ever....

    [–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVzJsi2mhMw

    It's like a Wattpad Marysue fanfiction come to life.

    [–]reluctant_commenter 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    WTF!!!!! I actually cannot believe that is serious!!!

    Oh my god. It reads like a parody. I am amazed. The only tip-off I had that it is actually serious, besides you mentioning it, was the eeeeevil bar manager casually being like "This bar is only for white people btw" like seriously? How do trans people think the world works???

    Thanks for sharing. Wow.

    [–]divingrightintowork 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    "So what are you doing in a gay bar then?"

    [–]saged 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    "If all these types of women are women! Then transwomen are women too!" makes zero sense and is lowkey offensive.

    [–]Rosefield 14 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    If all of these women are women then men are women too!!!1

    [–]insta 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It's amazing isn't it? Does anyone else feel like they're going crazy after all this gas lighting?

    "If a duck goes quack, that means trans women are real women"

    like wtf that's not connected at all. You're just saying words with no affiliation with each other. These people just regurgitate talking points over and over as if that means something.

    [–]Ambisextrous 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    They use trans women because they proclaim them as the number one oppressed group, therefore any non supportive statement about them is the height of all bigotry. Then they can start weaponising alleged suicide rates and they continue there crusade from there.

    [–]blackrainbow 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    TW are like 0,1% of total population yet they are journalists, politicians, CEOs, filmmakers, athletes... Yeah, so oppressed...

    [–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 8 insightful - 6 fun8 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

    If trans women are women then I just have more excuse to not fuck them, thanks

    [–]Q-Continuum-kin 26 insightful - 11 fun26 insightful - 10 fun27 insightful - 11 fun -  (4 children)

    Whenever I see this I love to reply

    "Sea horses are horses." And watch them freak out. Honestly right now I want to go start a satire sub called "Sea Horse Exclusionary Radical Horses." But the quantity of time it would take is just uhhhh.

    [–]insta 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    "Sea horses are horses."

    I dunno, these people are so insane I feel like we're going to get to a point where they'll just grant you that to take the win.

    [–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

    Please do this.

    [–]reluctant_commenter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Saw your comment about intersex and the former mod of r/detrans on that thread by the way, A+. :)

    [–]ThiccDropkickGay 28 insightful - 2 fun28 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I wish they'd realise that banning these subs will only earn them a bit more time to bury their head in the sand. But the cost of deplatforming them will only build resentment that will come back to bite.

    [–]LiterallyawomanTERF IRL 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    They’re also doing “transmen are men pass it on” in lesbian subs and the comments are refreshingly passive aggressive about it though I guess that’s as outspoken as the real lesbians and bisexual handmaidens will get before shutting up altogether

    [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

    Dont worry the "transmen are men" thing is bigger in lesbian spaces on twitter than reddit lol:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/isapphic/status/1276859890116550661

    [–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah[S] 9 insightful - 6 fun9 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 6 fun -  (2 children)

    JFC that was like stumbling into an insane asylum exclusively for university arts majors. My brain hurts.

    [–][deleted] 9 insightful - 7 fun9 insightful - 6 fun10 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

    Omg you described it perfectly. I loved how they were arguing about the story of a lesbian that just got married to a transman. They said that the lesbian was clearly invalidating his identity and needs to start calling herself bi or pan cuz she is hurting his feelings.

    Personally, I think its very emasculating to assume that a transman needs to be protected from the his own wife 😂

    [–]reluctant_commenter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I used to see people like this on a daily basis. Would not recommend. Some of them are just pretending for the street cred, though.

    [–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 13 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

    I voted in the poll its about 49% say"no, I'm a bigot" lol

    [–]Rosefield 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It's not going to stop until r/askgaybros is either banned or turned into a trans sub

    [–]JulienMayfair 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    The reddit user who posted "Trans men are men! Pass it on!" on Gaybros today complained on another sub that he was permanently banned, so at least someone there has decided to curb that particular trend.

    [–]luckystar 13 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

    Trans women are women.
    Meat eating vegans are vegans.
    Childless mothers are mothers.
    Winged cats are cats.
    Muslim Catholics are Catholics.

    [–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    I find your retorts over on that sub sublime, especially this one: https://www.reddit.com/r/askgaybros/comments/ichgkc/i_saw_a_poll_about_if_you_guys_think_trans_women/g236ku7/

    [–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 13 insightful - 7 fun13 insightful - 6 fun14 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

    This one's my personal fave for today:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/askgaybros/comments/ic93dl/trans_women_are_women/g235fdx/

    [–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yep, I'm a fan of that one, too.

    [–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah[S] 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    Well I just copped a three day ban for promoting hate with this old comment. Yes that's right, science really is tantamount to hate now on Reddit, Twitter, Facebook...

    [–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I just copped a three day ban

    Welcome to the club. I got banned from somewhere else for my science-y ways, too. With politeness and sources, even. How dare we.

    [–]fuckupaddamsBisexual Terve 12 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

    Almost makes me glad there are no more lesbian subs on reddit to have to deal with this lol

    [–][deleted] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Is this going to become a daily thing?

    [–]artetolife 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It has been for a while. Reddit TRAs need new targets after we and /r/gendercritical et al got banned.

    [–]LiterallyawomanTERF IRL 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    They’re sitting at home with nothin to do and no one irl to spend time with sooooo yes

    [–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    since some people didn't agree with initial postsabout trans men = men, people have been complaining about how reansphobic the sub has become. This attracts more trans trying to trigger it, or just spam it.

    [–]Femaleisnthateful 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    "Be open-minded, this is not a debate!"