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[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 funny1 insightful - 0 funny2 insightful - 1 funny -  (0 children)

They weren't leaving 74,000 years ago, they were moving back in. They had been sailing for at least 925,000 years while doing God only knows what else.

This is new to me. I'm familiar with the mt Toba mega volcano, and that's extremely interesting, and legit.

Humans as we understand them may have been around, but it seems likely that the fortunate 5000 or so humans in eastern Africa essentially won the geographic lottery. The lone survivors of extinct city-states, and empires. Everyone else died.

The Neanderthal survived though, which doesn't fit the Toba theory. Even so, it's still the best theory I'm aware of

Homo Florensis (the hobbit people). Are there the orang-pendek (or something) from Indonesia?

There's certainly more to human history than we're likely to ever prove. It's fun to imagine what it must/could have been like.

1,000,000 years ago? IDK. I'd need some compelling evidence.

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[–]Vigte[S] 1 insightful - 1 funny1 insightful - 0 funny2 insightful - 1 funny -  (0 children)

The link you posted has gone down...

Additionally, I didn't really have time to fully explain this until now - but the theory of "out of Africa" has some holes in it. Humans almost certainly BEGAN in Africa, but there were some journeys along the way that seem to be conveniently forgotten. The work of Bruce Fenton is quite on point to this effect.

Given recent evidences that place neanderthals and denisovans in a completely separate lineage from us (similar to horses and donkeys, due to the sterile nature of the hybrid offspring) - coupled with "homo antecessor" having "neanderthal only traits", the time line for human divergence from the Neander/Denisov lineage, is AT LEAST 800,000 as of Jan 14 2019.

Part of this has to do with the Wallace line in Oceania and the appearance of Homo Florensis (the hobbit people).

The amount of intelligence it would take to build ships and navigate a sufficient population (likely around 120 (the "genesis number")) is beyond what we attribute to any branch of the homo grouping at that time (at LEAST 1 million years ago).

In essence, the likely theory is that homo erectus departed from Africa (this much is not in debate with science) between 2 and 1 million years ago - spread over ALL of Europe, Asia and Oceania (and potentially even to North America) - and only returned to the "African homeland of legend" during the Toba Catastrophe.

See the migration OUT of Africa, circa 74,000 BCE coincides with Toba, which as many papers point out, would have been the absolute WORST time to leave Africa.

You would literally be walking out of a beautiful lush land, into a volcanic fallout.

The majority of "first modern human" remains are found around Bab-el-Mandeb straight - which would be PRIMARY entrance into Africa.

They weren't leaving 74,000 years ago, they were moving back in. They had been sailing for at least 925,000 years while doing God only knows what else.

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[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 funny2 insightful - 0 funny3 insightful - 1 funny -  (0 children)

It's like the "smart Jews" mythology.

Nobel Prize winners are connected.

Oscar winners are always corporate media.

It's just another part of their rigged systems.

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[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 funny1 insightful - 1 funny2 insightful - 2 funny -  (0 children)

Maybe octopi have secret societies and secret schools where they learn to be clickbait.

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[–]Vigte[S] 2 insightful - 1 funny2 insightful - 0 funny3 insightful - 1 funny -  (0 children)

Exactly - the test was developed with certain mindsets "in mind" - the Oxford "posh-boy" types.

They work so hard to create something flashy and popular, then destroy it so they can offer an alternative (that changes the very way you think, by virtue of the argument against the first thing and the "refined Socially just" nature of the new answer).

"To create: one must first destroy (and then create again)"

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 2 funny2 insightful - 1 funny3 insightful - 2 funny -  (0 children)

Africans are in a literal sense more human than everyone else.

lQ test are rigged. Questions like:. A runner is to a marathon, what a sailboat is to a .. ???

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I'm sure everyone instantly thought "Regatta", right?!

Well if you did I bet 10:1 that your parents have plenty of money...

Fuck that stupid test. That is a label of a rich man race. It has nothing to do with intelligence, but it's a question on many IQ tests.

They also like to put "Hors d'oeuvre" on the test. Every African child knows that one... /S

Put some African, Aboriginal, or First Nations games/words on the IQ test.
Then let the oligarch's kids take those tests.

Then we'll discuss their IQ results publicly.

I'm not irritated with you Vigte in any way. This is an absurd Injustice. A rigged test.

They paste it on the NYT like it's a legit issue, so we'll intentioned people can discuss it Monday morning at the office... It's a fucking crime of brainwashing.

Comedy to entertain such notions...

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[–]Vigte[S] 1 insightful - 1 funny1 insightful - 0 funny2 insightful - 1 funny -  (0 children)

? Eh?

JF doesn't work for NYT... he's responding to the news regarding Watson losing his status over his comments, here. He's trying to defend Watson by saying IQ is 75-80% related to DNA, the remainder is related to parental influence, which he also says has genetic basis.

He (Watson) had told a magazine in 2007 he was "inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa" as "all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours - where all the testing says not really".

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 2 funny1 insightful - 1 funny2 insightful - 2 funny -  (0 children)

The New York Times!? :-|
I'll check it out.

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 funny2 insightful - 0 funny3 insightful - 1 funny -  (0 children)

I've thought this since I was a kid. I don't think it should be contraversial.

Virtually all creatures that aren't nurtured by a parent(s) have an innate understanding of predator/prey relations, as well as what it supposed to eat.

Consider these instinctual aspects:

  • Spiders innately know how to make webs.
  • Fish aren't taught to swim in schools.
  • Deer can walk within an hour of birth.
  • Frogs progress from to tadpole, to frogpole (sounds legit) to frog, and it's predators/food/habitat changes significantly.
  • Hermit crabs look for shells to live in.

Doesn't instinctual information have to be inherited by it's very definition? Is is there any reason to think that complex concepts aren't also innate?

  • Humans also have a semi-unique instinctual ability: language aquisition (babies don't learn to listen for auditory cues).

Octopuses have a mind boggling list of innate abilities.

  • Color mimicry/changing/pattern/reproduction
  • Texture change.
  • Bodies that can form to a containers shape.
  • Ink.
  • Eyes without blind spots that were formed independently of all other animal classes (evolutionary convergence) - a worthy topic of it's own).
  • The ability to see colors humans cannot perceive visible.

The evolution of these incredible creatures is mind boggling. They are legit alien intelligence.

I wouldn't put much beyond the possible scope of their epigenetic potential.

I got love for the 8-puss.

Edit:. Evolutionary convergence is something to ponder. All mammals, amphibians, birds, fish, (animals), etc.; have a blind spot in the back of the eye.

Octopuses do not. This means that their ( plus cuddle fish, squid, etc.) evolutionary history is completely independent from almost every animal on the planet.

Legit alien intelligence, indeed.

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[–]Vigte[S] 1 insightful - 1 funny1 insightful - 0 funny2 insightful - 1 funny -  (0 children)

Exactly like the Animus, the memories of the ancestors are in the DNA!

I've always felt a strange attraction to that idea... since the first Assassin's Creed game.

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 funny2 insightful - 0 funny3 insightful - 1 funny -  (0 children)

How can octopuses learn so much, with such short lifespans? There's no parenting, so they grow independently.
They must have some biological feature that passes some experience along to their offspring

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[–]Demiurgent 2 insightful - 5 funny2 insightful - 4 funny3 insightful - 5 funny -  (0 children)

Ima tank. Brrrr.

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[–]happysmash27 1 insightful - 1 funny1 insightful - 0 funny2 insightful - 1 funny -  (0 children)

I feel like the "funny" upvote should be a more generic "entertaining" upvote, since posts like this are very entertaining, but not quite silly either.

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[–]happysmash27 1 insightful - 1 funny1 insightful - 0 funny2 insightful - 1 funny -  (0 children)

I feel like the "funny" upvote should be a more generic "entertaining" upvote, since posts like this are very entertaining, but not quite silly either.

Also, it is awesome that I can actually comment on a post this old.

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[–]happysmash27 1 insightful - 1 funny1 insightful - 0 funny2 insightful - 1 funny -  (0 children)

I've wanted to train neural networks to see how they evolve for a while now. YouTube videos of it are very interesting!

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[–]happysmash27 1 insightful - 1 funny1 insightful - 0 funny2 insightful - 1 funny -  (0 children)

Is it just me, or is this much lower quality than the original?

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[–]OldManCorley 1 insightful - 1 funny1 insightful - 0 funny2 insightful - 1 funny -  (0 children)

Very neato.

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[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 funny2 insightful - 0 funny3 insightful - 1 funny -  (0 children)

There are lots of ways.

First, everything is sketched on paper after they act it out and or shoot it for reference or rotoscoping. Unless rotoscoped, usually with fundamental shapes, forms, "skeletons", without clothing, etc., they'd shoot rough pencil tests. They critically look at their rough pass to see how the rough pencils can be cleaned up, possibly in stages and "tweened" by an inbetweener, an animators assistant who fills in the stuff between the important "key" frames, often with notes about motion to the side. Much of this "rough" art and film has value and is saved for future reference. The cleaned up and tweened pages are then traced on clear plastic by inkers then the outlines are filled in by the paint department and ready for the final camera.

All of these stages are version records to be referenced and traced as required.

But here's the most important part... Drawing is nice, but it's a fundamental understanding of timing, physics, and movement that the good animators have. All of the sketches are a process of refining and defining the timing and movements and performances and this is where the real hard work comes in. Now if you have the physics, weight shifting, timing, movements, and performances already established, all you then need is a mediocre animator who can trace and draw well to do a decent "reinterpretation" of what's been established.

All of that makes sense to me, but feel free to ask if you want me to elaborate on anything.

Also, 30+ years ago no one considered the technology of today where we can side-by-side everything to "catch them cheating" or shortcuts.

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[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 funny2 insightful - 0 funny3 insightful - 1 funny -  (0 children)

What I don't fully understand is how they can re-use the movement sequences when the character models are so different? I guess they just superimpose the character features on top of a blank dancing humanoid?

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[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 funny2 insightful - 0 funny3 insightful - 1 funny -  (0 children)

As a professional animator, I've know this from my earliest days in school. It's economically smart, but creatively disappointing - if you catch it. Some are more obvious than others.

Nothing near as limited as He-Man, Bug Bunny, or The Flintstones.

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[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 funny2 insightful - 0 funny3 insightful - 1 funny -  (0 children)

This is kind of interesting in an unexpected way if you ever watched disney movies as a kid in the 90s.

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[–]d3rr 3 insightful - 1 funny3 insightful - 0 funny4 insightful - 1 funny -  (0 children)

nice

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[–]d3rr 3 insightful - 1 funny3 insightful - 0 funny4 insightful - 1 funny -  (0 children)

Oh that sounds awesome, even if it turned into more of a simulation than a game.

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[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 funny2 insightful - 0 funny3 insightful - 1 funny -  (0 children)

Oh it is? I didn't notice that part. I thought it was just pulling them. That does make it less cool.