Why do Arabs and Indians have such a positive image of Hitler? Anyone knowledgeable on eastern affairs care to explain why Arabs seem to view Hitler in a positive light?

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

This realization that much of the world views the likes of Churchill, the Rothschilds and America as the antagonists is quite the shock, when in the American mythos, the axis is seen as a satanic entity.

The media has brainwashed people to believe Hitler was the final boss of racism, even though the British and French Empires literally colonized the world's non-white populations, the USA had Jim Crow/Segregation and the Soviet Union was a Slavic ethnostate with strict border controls.

In reality, Hitler was never "racist" and literally his best ally in the war where the Japanese. Which as we all know... were Asian.

Also as pointed out, plenty of non-whites actually fought for the Wehrmacht.

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[–]NeoRail 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

the Soviet Union was a Slavic ethnostate with strict border controls.

The Soviet Union can be characterised in many ways, but not as an ethnostate.

In reality, Hitler was never "racist" and literally his best ally in the war where the Japanese. Which as we all know... were Asian.

"The Allies were the real racists" doesn't sound right either.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

"The Allies were the real racists" doesn't sound right either.

Everyone was racist back then.

[–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Yes, but it's just wrong to suggest that the Allies were racist and Hitler was not.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Obviously.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

if hitler was racist why ally with the japanese, a different race

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

What a stupid question. A racist is perfectly capable of making serious distinctions between different races. I'm as racist as they come but that doesn't mean that I equate East Asians with sub-Saharan Africans. I - just like Hitler - admire and respect East Asians.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

are you saying the japanese race is better than others? you're racist. heh heh.

[–]negrogreBeing black is anti-white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it's a perfectly reasonable question to ask what the benefits of allying with East Asians are for proponents of pro-White movements. Admiring them and joining with them are two different things.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

The Soviet Union can be characterised in many ways, but not as an ethnostate.

China and North Korea are modeled after the USSR. Guess how they got to that status and why they lack diversity?

"The Allies were the real racists" doesn't sound right either.

But they were. Even before the war, Olympic athlete Jesse Owens felt treated better in Germany than in the U.S.

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Even now, racism is the primary focus of the left, and the explicit platform of the democrat party.

[–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

China and North Korea are modeled after the USSR. Guess how they got to that status and why they lack diversity?

To my knowledge, the USSR was something like 50% Slavic. It was far from an ethnostate. China is also very diverse, although the vast majority of its ethnicities fall under the umbrella term of Han people. North Korean Juche is an entirely different story, it's not purely Marxist.

But they were. Even before the war, Olympic athlete Jesse Owens felt treated better in Germany than in the U.S.

Germany treating a black athlete better does not mean Germany was less racist than the US.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

To my knowledge, the USSR was something like 50% Slavic. It was far from an ethnostate. China is also very diverse, although the vast majority of its ethnicities fall under the umbrella term of Han people. North Korean Juche is an entirely different story, it's not purely Marxist.

I'm going to assume you're a smart person and understand what "diversity" means in this context. Asians surrounded by other Asians, is not the same diversity as Asians surrounded by Blacks, Mexicans, Whites, Jews etc.

And further more, notice how none of the Soviet-inspired governments are trying to flood their own countries with as much random races possible?

Germany treating a black athlete better does not mean Germany was less racist than the US.

Then give your arguments for why you think it's not the case?

Because of the Nuremberg Laws? According to Liberals, racial laws are not bad when other non-whites practice it. Like Native Indians or Jews in Israel. Let alone, those rules were for Germans only. Blacks still lived and worked there, they just had to understand they were like tourists in another country.

If Germany again, just wanted to be racist for the hell of it, why not mass lynch them all like what the U.S had at this time?

[–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I simply pointed out that he USSR was not an ethnostate. That's all I said.

Then give your arguments for why you think it's not the case?

Would you prefer it if I rephrased myself? Germany treating a black athlete better does not mean Germany was less racialist than the US.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I simply pointed out that he USSR was not an ethnostate. That's all I said.

Then I disagree with your definition of one.

Would you prefer it if I rephrased myself? Germany treating a black athlete better does not mean Germany was less racialist than the US.

I never stated otherwise.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The Germans were openly and proudly racist by every definition of the term. Not moralizing that, it's just stating a fact.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

China literally has affirmative action for minorities...

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

They do? So why did they bar Blacks from their Mcdonalds last year? Or putting the Muslims in camps?

I also don't see many (non-Asians) actually immigrating or claiming asylum there.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You realize China is a huge country with multiple ethnicities and tribes right? Designated minorities get affirmative action by law, but that doesn't apply to just any non-Chinese who immigrates. It's more for non-Han ethnicities native to Chinese soil.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action_in_China

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You realize China is a huge country with multiple ethnicities and tribes right?

They all look the same to me. Multiple ethnicities =/= multi races.

Unless they're Indians or Aboriginees but I doubt it.

It's like trying to say the UK is diverse just because there are Irish and Scots living there. They're still just different flavors of White people and they just as much assimilate when asked.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The way China does affirmative action is basically like if the UK gave Irish people an extra boost in test scores and proportional representation in local government in exchange for them not revolting against British rule. China's rule extends well beyond the living space of the Han people, and so they give some concessions to those who are forced to be ruled by outsiders. Koreans, Mongols, Hui Muslims, Uyghur Muslims, Tibetans, Hmong, and various other tribes are among the beneficiaries. I think there might be Ethnic Russians too but not sure.

The Muslims you mentioned actually get those affirmative action benefits, the re-education camps were for those deemed to be at risk for extremism. There used to be a terrorist problem before those camps, especially back in the 90s when the Taliban gave Uyghur militants a safe haven to attack China from.

Blacks on the other hand probably won't get such benefits until a large enough population resides in China legally for enough time, which is unlikely.