It's Feeling a Little Too Reddit in Here by Frenologist in debatealtright

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Most of us don’t give a shit about covid or the vaccine.

Is the virus overblown? Yes. Is the vaccine not effective, is it a money grab scheme by pharma corps? Of course. Is the government using this as an excuse to increase their control? Definitely.

That being said, so what? If you’ve been involved in any capacity with nationalism over the past few years, you would know that all of this was expected to happen one day. To us, this is only an extension of what they’ve ALREADY been doing over the years.

To us, what matters is demographics, race, and tradition. Covid and vaccines are peripheral.

Have you taken the vaccine? by JuliusCaesar225 in debatealtright

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Took the vaccine, immediately got COVID afterwards, which I literally recovered from in a day. 🤡

Now it's official: Spencer is beefing with Keith Woods by tantamle in debatealtright

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Infighting is LARPy and a complete waste of time. Its like the “beef” of popular youtubers, pointless and solely for egotistical purposes. Stay as far away from this “beef” as you can.

I think the White Nationalist cause needs to be pragmatic if we want to succeed. by Salos60000 in debatealtright

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Yup. There are many paths to survival.

I think the White Nationalist cause needs to be pragmatic if we want to succeed. by Salos60000 in debatealtright

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It’s definitely a start though. I’d rather have smaller condensed communities than larger MAGA types, as you can more easily prevent subversion.

I think the White Nationalist cause needs to be pragmatic if we want to succeed. by Salos60000 in debatealtright

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I think many people are overthinking it. Remember, there are more white people now than there have ever been in the past.

When we build communities, protect our traditions and values, build a strong ethnic identity, and have our own economy, we’ve already won.

Look at the Amish. They’re living their lives free from most forms of degeneracy.

Mark Collett is debating Destiny at 3pm EST on the Killstream by user2321 in debatealtright

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These are the people we’re up against lmao.

Trump calls for bringing in Afghan refugees. Merkel and Macron rejects Afghan refugees by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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It should be added that a lot of nationalist groups just need more funding.

European nationalists should understand that it’s not always beneficial to go public about your nationalism and spend your time participating in nationalist groups directly.

Honestly, a lot of these groups just need money. If you’re a young, intelligent type, you should ask whether you’d be more useful to your people by pursuing a well paying intellectual career and helping nationalism from the sidelines.

What do you think about class, class differences, the effect of class on politics and the place of class in political rhetoric? Is it something that people should focus on, and if so, how much? Should political leaders account for class when building organisations? Should class impact strategy? by NeoRail in debatealtright

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Free healthcare in exchange for military service is also a must imo.

Protecting each other is the fundamental element of folk.

Trump calls for bringing in Afghan refugees. Merkel and Macron rejects Afghan refugees by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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Edit: Originally I suggested accelerationism but in the end, that strategy has too many uncertainties. This will definitely work, though.

Attack the public perception of the immigrants:

Expose their crimes in a visual format, focus on creating an image that the immigrants are targeting germans as a race, so that this strengthens german identity.

The exposure must be relentless, too. Make the average German associate refugees to the crimes they commit.

Patriotic Alternative in the UK has done this very well. They work on shifting public perception via a two pronged approach:

The first is positive. They reinforce the English, Welsh, Scots as a tribe by conducting communal and traditional events, reversing decades of attack on the tribal identity of the British people.

The second is negative, in the sense that they create an image that the British are targeted as a tribe. They hold memorials for anti white hate, unapologetically talk about ethnic demographics, and reveal anti white hate crimes.

Liberal capitalism has led to a society where most jobs are probably useless by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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Fascinating book. A bit over simplistic at times, but nonetheless a useful framework in viewing the world.

One thing I love about this subreddit is how it doesn’t shy away from “leftist” information sources. We should keep it that way.

haha when did Ryan got this based? by FoxySDT in debatealtright

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Where is he? I don’t see him.

Haven’t heard from him in a while.

Apparently nationalists not only have a deep foothold in the German military but the police as well. Another police force is disbanded for “far-right” ties. by Oingo in debatealtright

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Interesting to see how all this censorship plays out for the west in the long run.

I’m not far right due to the degree of risk involved in playing that game, but I admire the tenacity of the nationalists.

There’s hope for Germany yet.

Twitter thread about the coming Neo-Feudal age- Blackrock is buying every single family house they can find, paying 20-50% above asking price and outbidding normal home buyers. by JuliusCaesar225 in debatealtright

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Advice to all nationalists:

Leave the culture war behind. Focus on demographics and housing. These are the two issues that will impact us the most.

The neo-feudalism age isn’t coming. It’s already here. While it may not be ‘feudalism’ in the true sense, the average worker has little to no leverage over his own life. His insurance, mortgage, food, entertainment, freedom, all are subject to the whims of the corporations.

I wish you all the best, we’re in extremely difficult times. Anyone who doesn’t feel this way simply hasn’t realized yet.

Acquire skills. I don’t mean growing potatoes in your back yard. I mean learning how taxes really work, networking with other nationalists, building your own business.

Freedom, especially economic freedom, will grown more and more difficult to attain.

Russia's wealth fund to ditch all U.S. dollar assets for gold, euros, and yuan this month by TheJamesRocket in debatealtright

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To go against the circle jerk, Yuan is a bad fucking idea. Many Chinese people consider large swathes of Siberia ancient Chinese territory, and with the water deficit there, they need Lake Balalaika.

Abandoning the Dollar-good. Adopting the Yuan-bad.

Russia is slowly becoming a client state of China, they have to be more cautious.

Sam, Husband of Laura Towler, Vice Leader of Nationalist UK Group Patriotic Alternative, is arrested again despite no evidence of criminal activity. by Oingo in debatealtright

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Stay safe friends. Even if you completely avoid hate speech and illegal activity, the establishment will find fault with your actions. Laura and Sam were arrested for handing out flyers and organizing baking competitions.

Before getting publicly involved in nationalism, ask yourself: is it worth the risk?

I’m not an ‘anti-extremist’ fed or anything, I just want to point out that if you have the fortitude and skill to become a successful nationalist in todays world, you could probably focus your efforts on your career and become a millionaire with half the effort that people like Mark Collett and Laura Towler give on a daily basis.

An interesting economist article: Some 30-40% of White Americans feel their race is very important to their identity by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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What’s had a certain level of success in the UK is similar to what you’ve suggested. Mark Collett’s Patriotic Alternative fell under intense attack from the establishment government, media, and left wing terrorists through measures such as de-platforminf, cancelled bank accounts, and physical assaults.

What they did was build an underground network where hundreds of people meet up in real life regularly. Not only is that network a cultural one, it’s now an economic one. People buy goods from each other, and financially support one another when one of them falls victim to de-platforming.

In my country, while we don’t call ourselves ‘alt-right’, groups of racially conscious people aware of the demographic threat have banded together. Many of these people have their own businesses and skills, and whenever one of us needs work, we often hire from within the community. We help each other out in our businesses and careers, and through this economic in-group preference, we have an edge over other businesses.

Does any of this allow for revolution? Of course, not directly. However, with the money and social status we accrue, these groups gain the ability to fund and greatly assist nationalist movements.

Essentially, we’re doing what the jews do with organizations such as ADL, and Hope not Hate.

A group of highly ethnocentric people with massive economic power wishes to crush us, and in order to survive, we have to play the same game.

A leftists take on the shifting mood in Europe. In 2015 we started to see anti immigration sentiment. Now we finally start to see action:Denmark finally starts making progress in deporting refugees by Oingo in debatealtright

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I think the lesson we can learn is: never give up. However small part you played in the right wing wave of 2015, it laid the foundations for genuine nationalist movements.

Progress is slow. However, this form of anti-immigration sentiment would have been unimaginable in Scandinavia in the 80s, 90s. We’re in this struggle for the long run, and each and every one of us can do something to help our people.

A million French citizens have signed the second letter by active soldiers by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

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These men are giving their all for their people and all some of you can do is backstab, bitch, and whine.

Is it selfish to want to live in an Asian country? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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If any one my fellow retards here fall for this concern troll, i’ll be very disappointed.

Trumps new site - the about page crushes every doubt by Dragonerne in debatealtright

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“We are committed to defending innocent life and to upholding the Judeo-Christian values of our founding.”

What a fucking joke. I’m not going to waste my time fighting for jewish domination.

What is our Victory Scenario? by TheJamesRocket in debatealtright

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Our paramount condition of victory is to have the right to ethnic self-determination, and a nation-state clause, codified in law. Basically, we want exactly what Israel has.

Imo any other cultural, religious, economic goals are secondary.

China is not our ally since the ccp has historically utterly despised ethnic identity, and they would more likely than not promote globohomo in the west to weaken our nations.

Lets be real. There won’t be a sudden redpilling moment in the US or UK. At best, there will be pockets and enclaves of pro-white communities popping up as the situation worsens. Think of something along the lines of the amish.

Mainland Europe has much better prospects. France, Italy, and Germany are at their boiling point, Poland, Ukraine, and many Balkan countries are already de-facto ethnostates.

We don’t need total domination. We just need to survive and build communities at this stage.

Interview with a Syrian refugee in Switzerland. Take it with a grain of salt as the interviewing firm is pro-refugee. by Oingo in debatealtright

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This confirms the view that these people are economic migrants. We should completely withdraw from the desert, cut refugee programs, and leave the country to progress naturally, instead of creating artificial regimes that are bound to fail in the long run.

What a pointless war.

"The Neo-Feudal Age"-Keith Woods looks at the idea of neo-feudalism, a state of extreme corporate oligarchy where workers are de-facto serfs with zero societal leverage. by Oingo in debatealtright

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I think the most grim part of this idea is that with the current wealth and power transfer trends, this state of corporate oligarchy seems to be the direction of most modern countries.

I think it’d be fruitful to acknowledge this neo-serfdom and start a discussion about how we should navigate such a society. As salaried lifestyles become less sustainable, strong support networks will be crucial in avoiding vulnerability.

Is Vladimir Putin Jewish? by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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The idea that Putin is a nationalist who'll ultimately save the european peoples is a complete joke.
Realistically, he's part of the russian oligarchy, and doesn't give a shit about the russian people. The occasional race conscious, pro-white statements he gives is simply an attempt at blowing the embers of a hyper racialized America in the hopes of sowing discord. He's not good or evil, he operates for the benefit of his class as well as geopolitical interests.

That's not to say he won't be helpful to national movements here-but that any such benefit would purely be ancillary.

Why The Republicans Would Lose A Second Civil War by Nasser in debatealtright

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Conservatism as we traditionally know it is a dead ideology. It simply doesn't make sense in modern times, where culture and demographics have deteriorated to the point where there isn't really anything to preserve.
 
At a risk of getting into semantics, conservatism is now generally a shorthand for 'conserving' the interests of the ruling class. The patriotism that conservatism usually entails simply doesn't make sense considering the 'nation' one should feel loyalty to has demographically and culturally disintegrated.
 
I genuinely believe the meme of neo-feudalism has a degree of credence. With the breakdown of the nation, we'll see a return of powerful lords, or the billionaires, controlling a working class of functional serfs with little to no leverage in negotiations. Those who don't organize on the lines of family, religion, and race will quickly be left defenseless and exploited by these lords.

Why do you think its become less common for the dissident right to raise statistics regarding crime rates and demographics, considering it was such a prominent strategy back in 2016-2018? by Oingo in debatealtright

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To give credit where its due, I genuinely do think that the mass statistics bombardment was an effective strategy for 'recruitment' during the nascent stage of the nationalist revival period.
The only issue is that they reached a level of saturation where more information wouldn't be effective. the 13/50 meme has really seeped into mainstream culture, and anecdotally, i've seen it popping up in even the most benign posts on facebook and twitter.
 
As for people becoming more serious, I think that's painfully evident. Its no longer about the frog memes and 'owning libs', and I certainly see an air of desperation within nationalists, or even people who simply don't want to see their people and culture die out.
 
I've seen many people who have risked their livelihoods for the cause, and they keep going despite the harsh social repercussions for espousing nationalism. They realized that they only have two options- political participation to prevent the demographic collapse, and building isolated white communities to weather out the storm.
 
To put simply, nationalism is no longer about a hypothetical scenario, but a struggle for survival. We've sen the msm harp on about spikes in nationalism/racism/extremism, and as an observer, this is an unavoidable, biological tribal response.
 
As an observer with significant sympathy for the nationalists, this was the one path I hoped we could avoid. But as the differences in ideology grows, this rise in political extremism seems unlikely to reverse. I think the last true pressure valves left is for establishment neoliberal politicians to adopt a facade of nationalist populism like we see with Macron and Boris, or for the rise of left-wing, anti-proletariat populist movements.

The dissident right should focus more on creating popular culture by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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Shoutout to 'Folk', a publication celebrating european culture and aesthetic. https://www.whitepeoplepress.com/product/folk/

What's the vibe among American conservatives? by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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To be honest, they have no plans. They don't really have a set of policies to rally around, and the most apt phrase for their motives might be "A vague inconsistent idea of civic nationalism".
They tend to be against the modernization of energy; they abhor ethnic self-determination, and they're against socialist policies such as universal healthcare and minimum wage.

They support gun rights; breaking up big businesses; Deregulating said businesses; Abortion, and supporting Israel.

Basically they're an unappealing and alienating mish mash of neoliberalism and libertarianism, headed by a patchwork of grifters looking to make a quick buck through snarky commentary and owning liberals.

El Catastrophe in Holland and Germany: Greens rise in Germany, populists collapse in Holland by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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The only thing that makes republicanism appealing to the general public is a vague element of patriotism. Without that they’re nothing.
Whats the point of ‘muh traditions’ if you live in a neo-serfdom ruled by elites who despise your very existence.

El Catastrophe in Holland and Germany: Greens rise in Germany, populists collapse in Holland by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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Nationalism used to be about taking care of your land and people. Now its about simping for corporations, tax breaks for billionaires, and lowering minimum wage.

Brothers of Italy is now the second biggest party by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

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It seems to be the case that this recent resurgence in nationalism has had 3 stages so far. 2015-16 was the first time genuine nationalism started to get political traction. Then, the new parties that popped up or became popularized in that era started to lull in popularity upon people realizing that they tended to concede on various key issues.
Currently, we see an even more nationalistic response. Fratelli d'Italia gains popularity, political extremism skyrocketed in Germany, and explicitly ethnonationalist groups started popping up in the UK.

Another trend we're seeing is the popularity of economically left-wing movements as well. I feel that there's a significant overlap in people drawn to nationalism, and workers becoming exhausted by the exploitation of the global corporate elite.

Nationalists need to play it very smart in the current political landscape. Circumnavigating the political censors to reach their target supporters, avoiding constant attempts at de-platforming, and competition by 'false' nationalists and socialists.

As someone who's given up on the political process long ago, the tenacity and grit these nationalists have astounds me. They deserve all the support we can give them.

Collapse of the Catholic church in Poland: Only 9% of young Poles view the church positively by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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Christianity is a difficult topic. If only our dominant religion was one rooted in ancestor worship like the Hindus.
Christianity is an effective tool against 'degenerate' values. However, it alone was never the foundation of our ethnic identities or traditions. The religion was simply a far superior and comprehensive philosophy compared to anything we had at the time.
We've seen throughout history that to supplant this lack of an ethnic element, different nations adopted their own subset of christianity. Most often, the nation chooses the subset different from their neighbors to build up their identity as an 'other'. In that sense, Christianity definitely had a proxy effect of racial cohesiveness.

What does the current age require? A belief system that strengthens racial consciousness to fight the hyper-racialized tribal era we've entered. One that addresses the crushing economic equality many of the working class feel. One that serves as a good rallying tool against the astronomically wealthy, often globalist elite that seek to exploit our people at every turn.

Until Christianity adapts to address these salient issues as it's done in the past, I really don't see a sudden revival, unless it's used alongside nationalist, ethnic philosophy like it's been done in the past. Christianity is exceptional at allowing individuals to go through tough times surrounded by death and war, at uniting disparate peoples under a common aim. But unlike Judaism, it's not particularly suited for protecting ethnic identity and traditionalism.

I understand the reaction towards paganism in response to this, but paganism is too minor, its belief system of bloodlines and ancestors are well suited for the current struggles, but its philosophy isn't sufficiently built up. It could theoretically re-surge over the next centuries together with comprehensive philosophical points to build on the moral foundations it provides, but I don't see this as a realistic short to mid term solution.

Collapse of the Catholic church in Poland: Only 9% of young Poles view the church positively by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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Undoubtedly, Christianity was the shared moral values needed to dominate and defend from other cultures at that time.
That being said, for whatever reason, Christianity has stopped being necessary for average person. To a certain degree, shared morality comes from books and tv shows, knowledge comes from our understanding of science.
I don't know enough to determine whether this is good or bad, but I can say that at its current state, Christianity doesn't seem to be the thing that will save white people and strengthen our ethnic identity.
It seems to me that all a return to Christianity would do is revive a highly religious, multi-ethnic society much like the ones we see in the middle east.

What to do in an election when there's no one even remotely on our side? by scormac1752 in debatealtright

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Realistically speaking, this existential struggle will take decades. In terms of the immediate future, electoral politics can’t save us.

But it can help us buy time. Republican policy tends to be marginally better than the alternatives.

That being said, time alone is useless. What we do with that potential shortfall is what matters.

How Russia Wins the Climate Crisis. by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

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The issue is that China's facing a severe water shortage that will worsen if current climate trends continue. Couple that with perceived historical claims to the Vladivostok area, with its prominent water sources, makes tension between the two states unavoidable.

Media assault on the british royal family underway by Bagarmoossen in debatealtright

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Fuck the royal family. Head of states should be decided upon through merit.

Media assault on the british royal family underway by Bagarmoossen in debatealtright

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Call me crazy but I think monarchies are pretty shit.
Then again, i’m a left leaning normie.

How do "cancelled" Whites still survive? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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Laura Towler and her husband are a good case study. Her co-worker was in preparation to cancel her from her well paying job, so she quit before that happened and started her own tea/coffee company with the objective of divesting away from the globohomo economy.

Before you know it, people like us started supporting her brand, and it sorta took off.

Great white pill. There are still good people out there.

https://www.grandmatowlers.co.uk/homepage/why-grandma-towlers-launched/

(I’m not affiliated to her in any way.)

Our very own Caspar Von Everec gets published by Counter-Currents - "Will Civilization Collapse?" by cisheteroscum in debatealtright

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Congrats u/casparvoneverec , keep up the good work👍👍

Existing emissions pledges barely scratch climate targets, U.N. tally finds by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

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I once got called an eco-fascist for suggesting that overpopulation and infinite population growth are incompatible with sustainable development.

Most people who pretend to care about environmental resources are either disingenuous or retarded.

Where's the rally point? by Fitter_Happier in debatealtright

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Unlike in 2016, most nationalist movements now are primarily real-life based due to the frequent bans. Communication is primarily via telegram.

The nascent era of 'redpilling normies' and 'owning leftists' is by and large over, I'm finding that in Europe, at least, nationalists form groups for real-life community building, electoralism, entrepreneurship, and academic research.

It's definitely more difficult organizing now with the twitter/facebook/youtube purges, but the benefit of real life activities is that it weeds out the more autistic/bipolar/violent types.

Unfortunately for some of the people here, most of these groups aren't what /pol/ folks consider as truly 'based', but they genuinely care about immigration, demographics, and fighting against the international capitalist.

White nationalist support for ZOG by Courbeaux in debatealtright

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I think you've conjured a non-existent strawman.

No nationalist I have ever heart of supports this. Maybe you conflate derision towards communism as support for the establishment? You can be critical of both capitalism and communism with regards to how they're in opposition with ethnic identity.

Who's the woman in the new banner? by Imperium in debatealtright

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Even if that were true, your answer to that would be this?
Lol.

Who's the woman in the new banner? by Imperium in debatealtright

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I think this would turn away people interested in dissident ideas. Why not something more professional and basic?

Free speech social network Gab says it has been refused by three banks in the last month by scrubking in politics

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"gab rejected from using the infrastructure of an enemy that wants them eradicated"

France now has feminist identitarians by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

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This view won't be popular here, but at this point where the literal survival of our people hang in balance, I honestly don't care if they're feminist, socialist, or libertarian, as long as they're race conscious and against legal immigration.

We can sort out ideological issues after we've fixed the existential demographic threat.

[Long Read] Andrew Joyce reviews Josh Neal’s new book, 'American Extremist' by Jacinda in debatealtright

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Amazing book. It really gives a thorough analysis at the lack of self-awareness and pathology behind the more extremist individuals in both the right and left.

Most nationalists start from presuppositions of love for culture and people, whereas 'extremists' start out through a framework of hate and bitterness. This leads them to adopt a fundamentally intellectually frail mindset; they adopt nationalism despite not truly believing in any of its core values. As a result, they embarrass themselves through directionless actions that really benefit no one.

These people simply want a sense of identity and hate, which is why so many of them switch radically from being a nazi to an antifa shill. Nationalism needs a solid base, and these people are detrimental to the cause. If you're a genuine nationalist, who believes that people have the right to ethnic self-determination and tradition, that moral axiom is impervious to change. You're not going to suddenly start saying 'oh, I guess no one deserves to have a homeland'.

Update on the dissolution off Génération Identitaire by lolhedabbin in debatealtright

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That's a false dichotomy. In reality, we should be moving our movements on all fronts simultaneously: a public party with good optics and possibility of getting elected, underground movements for more radical people, cultural ones where people attempt to make an impact on music and art, etc.
As long as they're race conscious, that's all we need to bind us together in these hard times.

[Serious]For a conservative movement, why do dissident right circles seem to have a disproportionate number of zoomers and young people? by Oingo in debatealtright

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How do you feel about declining christian values in the west, and the cultural degeneracy of the youth today?

[Serious]For a conservative movement, why do dissident right circles seem to have a disproportionate number of zoomers and young people? by Oingo in debatealtright

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As a gen X, there's definitely truth with regards to the idea that wealthy boomers are shielded from the effects of modernity. We shouldn't have allowed things to get this bad.

France Cracks Down On Generation Identitaire, And Creates A New Star (With bonus video) by Jacinda in debatealtright

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Never thought the French right wing movement would be more active than the british one. Good job France, shame on you Britain.

A sad, grim video of a WWII veteran furious upon the realization that the country he fought for is now infested with communists. by Oingo in debatealtright

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You do realize that communism isn’t just about the allocation of labour and the communist manifesto, right?

It includes marxism, critical theory, rejection of ethnic identity and nationalism. Do you know anything about the historical context of ww2?

Read some books. The culture that gives rise to marxist ideology is directly linked to the decline of our people.

Stop with the commie larping, you retard. Soviet Russia and Communist China despise ethnic identity. Look at what they did to their own race, the cultural revolution and the great leap forward. Also, read up on the crimean tartars, tibetans, and mongols. If you think communist china gives a shit about the han people, you’re an absolute moron.

Just because you agree with certain socialist policies in addition to the bourgeoisie/proletariat framework doesn’t mean you have to agree with communists.

A sad, grim video of a WWII veteran furious upon the realization that the country he fought for is now infested with communists. by Oingo in debatealtright

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There's a statistic that the large majority of americans would have rather joined the axis than end segregation (Troubling the waters: black-jewish relations in the American Century Chapter 3).
They were betrayed. Don't let the opposition erase this history, Americans didn't die for Central Banking and Marxism.

'I sing no song for the once-proud country that spawned me,' wrote a sailor who fought the Japanese in the Far East, 'and I wonder why I ever tried,'

-The Unknown Warriors, by Nicholas Pringle.

In my personal life, I follow the NAP by tantamle in debatealtright

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I don't know any non-autistic nationalists who dream of expanding their borders and dying in a foreign country, but that just might be me. I'm fairly average when it comes to political beliefs.

If by 'NAP' you mean 'basic morality', then yeah, I follow it.

An illiberal perspective on the state of danish politics and recent collapse of the centre-right by lolhedabbin in debatealtright

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Well written. Glad to see the constant quality posts from all around the world.

This forum has been a boon for trying to figure out what tends to work and what doesn’t in the nationalist struggle.

Keep it up.

Clip of Nick Fuentes Talking about Killing State Legislators Used in Impeachment Hearing by weasel in debatealtright

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Well said. We’re literally fighting an existential struggle.

I work every waking hour to further my career so that I can continue to financially support Nationalists in my country. I’m prepared for my bank account to be cancelled, be ostracized in my workplace, having my water and electricity cut off, etc.

We have to acknowledge the worst and prepare for that eventuality. Become financially independent, establish support networks with other nationalists, try and raise enough capital to own property in the countryside.

Le Pen has best poll result EVER: 48% would vote for Rassemblement National in the second round of the 2022 French presidential election by lolhedabbin in debatealtright

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The German people are still incredibly based. The whole country's a matchbox right now for populist reconquista.

What's the difference between alt right and alt lite? by Funkopop in debatealtright

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idk man

What's the difference between alt right and alt lite? by Funkopop in debatealtright

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As otherkin said, no one cares.

I prefer the term Nationalist, in its classical sense. Nation, arising from Natio in Latin, which is the same as ethnos, which means race, or family. Under this meaning, all of our ancestors were Nationalists. The phrase 'ethno-nationalist' is a complete tautology, and 'civic nationalist' is a nonsensical oxymoron.

It all depends on how much optics matter to you.

What do we do with people when industry/labour is fully or significantly automated? by [deleted] in debatealtright

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If anything, our side are the ones who need automation the most. Automate the necessities, allow people to pursue their true passions, and use the benefits of automation to provide for infrastructure and basic needs.

However, as most of us know, all this can only be achieved in an ethnically homogeneous, high trust society. This is the future we're all fighting for.

Vox Day Appears To Be Having Some Kind Of Episode by literalotherkin in debatealtright

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Q is just an avoidance of the true problems we face- the destruction of the white race and western culture. It takes courage to talk about and act upon these issues as a true dissident.

Q aren't dissidents. They say nothing which actually matter, and obsess over borderline cult-ish insanity.

While we're facing the brunt of harassment by talking about demographics and immigration, Q just watches videos online. While we're out literally trying to save our people from losing our homelands, Q watches a B-grade theater.

They serve as an important lesson for us. Only action has meaning. For example, i've been obtaining a practical postgrad degree in preparation for helping my own family business, so that I can financially help our guys risking their livelihoods for us. Nationalists don't need more viewers, or protestors. We need more money, more people in positions of power, more people out leafleting.

[Opinion] The dissident nationalists in anglo nations must divert their attention from electoral politics, and focus more on economic self-sufficiency and community building. by Oingo in debatealtright

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These groups will undoubtedly be assailed, bank accounts cancelled, and de-platformed in America. I think, however, that if the businesses operated low-key and reached a point of relative self-sufficiency before they were targeted by the opposition, a series of these businesses could form a community that could help other fledgling communities get started.

Remember, the Amish were attacked too. If they could do it, there must be a way.

With regards to political participation, you have a point. A two-pronged approach of isolated communities funding political groups with our interests could work.

I think the NJP needs to work on their optics. by Oingo in debatealtright

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Look, I don’t get this weirdly aggressive tone. I just want a discussion on political priorities.

We both have the same aims. We’re both j-woke.

All i’m saying is, we can deal with jews after we gain power. Its just that there are more suave ways of doing this, i.e referring to them as ‘dual loyalty Israeli citizens’, or ‘Zionists’.

As for why i’m not doing anything, its because in my current position, being a a grad student in the US before returning to europe, I can support the cause more through financial means. I don’t have what it takes to be a leader.

I personally don’t see the benefit of naming the jew at this stage, especially in a country controlled by jews, but feel free to convince me.

To me, the priorities are:

Reviving race consciousness in whites>Ending immigration>Deportation>Everything else.

Remember, even in my country,

I think the NJP needs to work on their optics. by Oingo in debatealtright

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Someone’s angry. Have you actually listened to their representatives speak?

I’m sorry you’re offended by this, but they have little self-awareness and do everything you’re currently being ironic about.

If you think 5 years from now the NJP will have any leverage in real life politics, you’re deluded. As I said, zero self awareness for the sake of ideological purity.

In my country, the conservative party primarily fosters a family friendly christian image. Guess what? We’re in power. People support us, and we aren’t being ethnically displaced. No need for childish meme lingo or nazi imagery.

Even if jews are a large factor in this, the ‘alt rights’ obsession with jews, and lack of priorities will be the reason why you’ll play no meaningful part in the survival of white people.

You can deal with demographics first and jews later.

Where's the rendezvous? by Fitter_Happier in debatealtright

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Join real life communities.

Call me a glowie, but joining race conscious communities will be the key to our survival in the coming decades. The mexicans do it, the blacks do it.

The simple fact of the matter is, isolated whites will be outcompeted or assimilated whereas white tribes will prosper.

Nick Fuentes banned on Dlive by arainynightinskyrim in debatealtright

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This is the hard truth. The internet isn’t real.

I'm so much looking forward to the DC fallout and Qtards being wrong by cisheteroscum in debatealtright

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Nothing will directly come out of this. But i’d say the likelihood of balkanization within the century got exponentially higher.

Are there any efforts to grow this saidit community? I miss the thriving discourse we had on our old subreddit. by Oingo in debatealtright

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Well, like most pro-white guys, I generally keep up to date with the community on twitter, bitchute etc.

But I miss the mainstream outreach we had on the old r/debatealtright, r/altright and r/debatefascism.

edit.
I just noticed, but we’re being censored from the saidit front page, right?

So what can we actually do to prevent our people, culture from dying out and securing an environment safe for our people? by Oingo in debatealtright

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Political groups like PA are great for keeping up morale and meeting like-minded folks in real life.
Obviously, you have to be aware of the fact that you’re constantly at risk of a tarnishing/defamation campaign, but as long as you don’t play a highly prominent role, you should be fine.

Americans Increasingly Believe Violence is Justified if the Other Side Wins by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

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Holy shit. DebateAltRight is alive. I can't believe it. I was an active poster on the subreddit for years, going through many accounts. I loved your posts, Ethnocrat.

After the announcement of the ban as well as the subsequent banning, I just gave up. Then today, I find this page. With Saidit, Ruqqus, and Far Right Twitter, things are finally looking up.
Sorry for the corny comment, but its great to be back.