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[–]SerpensInferna 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I agree with you - it seems to me that loners will be easy targets. If you are on your own, your chances of survival are low.

That is something that hit home for me after reading this - https://archive.vn/YkN2v (Surviving A Year of Hell in Wartorn 1990s Bosnia). The writer explicitly states that people on their own - no matter how well armed - were inevitably killed. It was family that mattered most, in which people gathered and patrolled areas together.

I am in a once bright red, rapidly-purpling county in a blue state, and hands down my plan is to get to a majority White large town in a red state. I am in the process of figuring out the best ways to relocate as well as how to build community so it's there when it really counts, so anything else you'd feel like extrapolating on I'm interested in reading.

[–]Ponderer 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Came here to post that very article.

I am in the process of figuring out the best ways to relocate as well as how to build community so it's there when it really counts, so anything else you'd feel like extrapolating on I'm interested in reading.

I'd be interested in discussing this too.

I think specific locations could be a bit too much (by which I mean it could put a target on their backs), but discussing the best states (or countries) to move to long-term would be great.

Also ways to find or keep a job would be good. And like you said, ways to connect with the community.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That is something that hit home for me after reading this - https://archive.vn/YkN2v (Surviving A Year of Hell in Wartorn 1990s Bosnia).

I was actually going to post that same article but couldn't find it in time. Thanks for sharing it. Another big inspiration for my thinking about depopulation prepping is a podcast by rebel yell. They go into making covenant communities. There are some really great suggestions in that podcast.

Found it: https://identitydixie.libsyn.com/rebel-yell-20171213-230-dark-enlightenment-muh-colonies

I am in the process of figuring out the best ways to relocate as well as how to build community so it's there when it really counts, so anything else you'd feel like extrapolating on I'm interested in reading.

Will do. I'm kinda in the middle of this process myself so I'm learning as I go. We use to have a great sub on reddit called r/200acres that had a lot of knowledgable people already living in off grid and semi off grid situations. It's a shame we lost that group. There's a subverse here but it's not active anymore. I think what I will do with the next post is share out some of the people I follow on youtube and also share out what I'm learning from my new rural neighbors. Unfortunately I will have to be fairly vague because I don't want to dox where I'm at.

[–]scormac1752 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The root challenge or us is the atomization of our culture. Men and women have less in common now more than ever, even platonic friendships among men to men and women to women are down significantly. We've got to be likeable to the people in our lives.

[–]Ponderer 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This doesn't get discussed enough, but it could be a major factor.

One heartening thing I'm seeing with vaccine-skeptic communities is that it seems there's a lot of women into it. So there's the possibility of meeting in the middle there.

[–]SamiAlHayyidGrand Mufti Imam Sheikh Professor Al Hadji Dr. Sami al-Hayyid 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I don't even think a conclusive collapse is needed for people to start leaving. The DR probably would have already done this long ago if it was actually allowed to organize openly. Whoever remains stranded in mass society cannot hold out forever. Even if you block out 'entertainment' like 'Q-Force' and 'Blues Clues' by simply not having a Talmudvision, the kids will still be forced to go to school, and this is increasingly inescapable from a legal perspective. That Jewpanese San Franshitscan bum driller Iwata and his bum buddies (AIDS be upon them) were obviously right: "We're coming for your children", i.e. to indoctrinate them into Left-liberalism or, from their own perspective, to 'teach' them 'inclusion' and 'tolerance'. So even if you do not succumb to it, they know they just have to bide their time. They were never able to outbreed other groups and have only ever been able to grow their numbers through conversion. But being a licentious piece of shit is easy and has immense appeal to many people, who start off wanting 'to have fun' and soon find themselves submerged in the pozz. It doesn't take long before they'll be identifying as 'abrosexual', 'agender', 'alexigender' or some such nonsense... and there's not much that can really be done to deradicalize them at that point. The bigger the city the more hopeless it gets.

I would like to see thousands of Oranias across the West. There will be problems with both Antifa (but these people would almost always look very out of place and can only ever be caricatures of the 'Far-Right') and state infiltrators (these are the biggest problem because states have access to high-agency people whereas Antifa are lumpen trash and look the part). But they cannot 'Waco' any large number of Oranias without committing outright mass murder.

We've reached a dead end, which is why DR content creation consists overwhelmingly of mulling over philosophy and conversational livestreams. I think that once enough communities are formed people will actually flock to them, since racial consciousness will likely grow as demographics change, and the social situation is increasingly intolerable and is drawing all sorts of complaint by people who vaguely see that something is wrong but are blaming problems on wrong causes. People lash out at the symptoms and surface level problems, but do not know of, or do not problematize, the largely unseen root problems. Who will seriously attack liberalism, for example? They at best attack some facet of it, like feminism or mass immigration. But these things are inseparable from liberalism. Every group like Antifa, feminists and MGTOW grows; every public intellectual like Peterson, Reich and Zizek grows; vaguely populist leaders like Sanders and Trump owe their popularity to them; all provide largely wrong answers and keep people within the bubble. Most people cannot think externally to their bubble and will only develop strategies of action based on the options they feel they have. If no one leaves to set the example, then the overwhelming majority will feel that they have no choice but to stay no matter how intolerable it becomes, and will become only deeper submerged. Instead, they'll keep for voting for the faux-Right, revisit the wrong ideologies, blame persons (Trump bad, Biden bad) rather than problems and blame surface problems (e.g. Muslims) or pretend problems (-isms and -phobias) rather than deeper problems (e.g. immigration, without which there would be no Muslim problem to begin with). This does not mean giving up on nations; it is about back-up plans that would cause a great headache for the System if taken up by many people.

[–]thefirststoneThat's my purse! I don't know you! 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

By the way, it's still legal to homeschool in the US, unlike much of Europe. Education with classic literature research, like project gutenberg and sci-hub, at your fingertips is easier than before. This is doubtless why they are so afraid.

without committing outright mass murder

That's exactly what they did in Waco, and Clinton won the next election on that success. Voters love Clintons mass murdering Christians in Texas and Kosovo.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I think a lot of people supported killing at Waco because David Koresh had long hair, seemed like a hippy.

[–]Ponderer 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We've reached a dead end, which is why DR content creation consists overwhelmingly of mulling over philosophy and conversational livestreams.

I agree with this, and would also like to see thousands of little independent communities spread across the land.

I think the "dead-end" we've reached is that we've done just about all the navel-gazing there is to do, and now we have to start thinking about practical matters, like how to be truly self-sufficient, or how to form parallel economies.

Maybe that could be the next thing to write a guide about: how to go back to the land while maintaining your financial supporting. /u/send_nasty_stuff covers it somewhat in this post.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I would like to see thousands of Oranias across the West.

Same here. That's a great model and a great way to phrase it.

But they cannot 'Waco' any large number of Oranias without committing outright mass murder.

So true. An Orania or an Amish community attack by elites would be difficult to hide or spin. Basically Waco or smaller and you are potentially unsafe.

I think that once enough communities are formed people will actually flock to them, since racial consciousness will likely grow as demographics change, and the social situation is increasingly intolerable and is drawing all sorts of complaint by people who vaguely see that something is wrong but are blaming problems on wrong causes

The other positive part about real community creation is that you can actually talk openly about race realism, degeneracy, Jews, feminism, raising children with values, etc. You can be yourself in the open and new people (especially women) are often difficult to remove from the matrix because they need the community. The female collective consiouness has been hijacked and males are even worse off. There's an incredible psychological damage when you have to constantly hide how you feel and what you believe. It's starts to fuck with your head and mess with your hormones. Clown world isn't really funny at all. It's full of demoralization and gas-lighting. White people are community oriented people and need to live in spaces where they can socialize, trade services and assist people who look and think like themselves. Right now we are disconnected from our volk and it's why we've stopped breeding. Disconnection is a direct cause of our physical and spiritual illness.

Most people cannot think externally to their bubble and will only develop strategies of action based on the options they feel they have. If no one leaves to set the example, then the overwhelming majority will feel that they have no choice but to stay no matter how intolerable it becomes, and will become only deeper submerged.

Really well said. Couldn't agree more.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Who cares if you're a racist or a fascist when millions start dropping like flies from gene therapy complications.

This.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The roving thugs will be going after the low hanging fruit because there will be so much of it. Avoid being an easy target and leave your base camp as a group. Remember, they will target whites for racial revenge, even if you don't have anything to steal and they lust after white women. Our wives and daughters will need extra protection.

[–]jykylsin2034 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I have thought exactly this for a long time, it would be the perfect opportunity

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

All this is cart before the horse. If some depopulation event occurs, my bet is that the regime will herd the survivors into orwellian smart cities.

[–]TheJamesRocket 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

There will be lots of desertions from the military and law enforcement. Many of these men have familys who they will try to protect in times of chaos.

[–]thefirststoneThat's my purse! I don't know you! 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How could depopulation happen when they're carting in foreigners by the boatload?

Whatever could stop demographic replacement would be either more devastating or more constructive than it stopping.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Think about how many africans have been kept alive with aid from Europe and the US. Without whites there will be a malthusian adjustment for billions of people. When whites decline the systems that feed, clothe and lengthen the lifespans of everyone on earth will also go away.

[–]Ash 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't want to sound arrogant or belittling you but are you new to this? I'm thinking about worst case scenarios since I was a kid, and was aware that I'm at risk (single woman without a clan or a big family) since my teens. It's going to be like in 3rd world countries without law and only clan chiefs.

I recently got my man to watch the TV show Jericho. It's cheap with bad actors but I love it because it shows me 'what if' scenarios I've played a thousand times through my head. Remove the fluff and romance and it's pretty accurate. How to keep warm, get electricity, protect yourself from others, breakdown of society, women becoming a currency, nuclear rain, no food, no game in the woods anymore, WATER, building a society from scratch again.

Jericho: A small town in Kansas is literally left in the dark after seeing a mushroom cloud over near-by Denver, Colorado. The townspeople struggle to find answers about the blast and solutions on how to survive. Jericho: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0805663/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

YouTube Trailer for season 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXSLD8RVj4E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDUYDTtAtNk

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't want to sound arrogant or belittling you but are you new to this?

New to prepping? Yes and no. I'm not new to the survivalism or shooting sports that's for sure. I'm not a big fan of 'stacker' preppers that just buy shit food from Alex Jones and stash it in a basement and don't consider the full picture.

Remove the fluff and romance and it's pretty accurate. How to keep warm, get electricity, protect yourself from others, breakdown of society, women becoming a currency, nuclear rain, no food, no game in the woods anymore, WATER, building a society from scratch again

I think a lot of of shows try to remove how important the human element is. You have to remember that all the shows you watch about disasters have an ulterior motive. They want to promote individualism. Notice how every time there's a 'town' in one of the zombie movies it's really run by some evil leader (often christian) that's taking advantage of everyone. These shows are designed to get you to hate religion, hate male leadership and hate white people especially. Bird box is another great example of this bullshit anti white propaganda.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f30F2Msa0J8

As is the anti fed prepper patriarch character in the later seasons of the show Longmire. It's a shame that we can't get any positive promotion of implicit white communities. Even the Amish were made into petty gun toting gangs in recent show. Media is really just a weapon to distract, demoralize and confuse us about who we are and how we should go about living or surviving in tough situations.

I am actually new to full rural life that's for sure but not new to survivalism, camping or hunting. I've spent most of my life being very oriented to exercise and the outdoors.

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What you need are family, friends, old tractors, spare parts, and people with functional small farm skills.

Agreed - though it will also be important to be near a major city. Access to resources, spare parts, medicine, and hard to locate items will only be in the major cities, though I agree that it will be important to have a relatively rural property, as well as greenhouses, some of which can be built with plastic sheets.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Access to resources, spare parts, medicine, and hard to locate items will only be in the major cities,

This is changing with 3d printing and DIY culture. With enough pre planning many of these new communities can be self sustaining. They might not be super advanced but they will be healthy and happy places because they will be full of families helping each other.

I agree that it will be important to have a relatively rural property, as well as greenhouses, some of which can be built with plastic sheets.

I'd like to look into orania type communities in cold weather areas where the land if harsh but cheap to buy. Greenhouse tech is getting better and better and there might be a way to do some really cool covenant ethno communities in Canada, Alaska and the Northern border areas of the US.

This is one of my favorite geothermal greenhouse models

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD_3_gsgsnk

[–]proc0 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I ended up as a loner recently after everyone (or most people I know locally) went full sheep. Are there any good sites to meet people? Also I need to leave CA asap. My life has changed drastically during the past year, I have a lot of work in front of me.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Are there any good sites to meet people?

Not really. Most dissident sites strongly advise people not to dox themselves even in DM's to people they trust and for good reason. There are LOTs of fake profiles and honeypots that are created just for fucking up peoples lives. It's better to just get closer and closer to independent rural living and hope that there's a time when dissidents can openly start organizing. I'd recommend going to 'implicitly white' spaces in real life and hope that you can feel out people for dissident beliefs. An example would be shooting, hiking, board game clubs, etc. I found a lot of my 'based' friends through playing pool, going to country bars, going to archery ranges. Even meeting one person will make finding others easier.

Try to be as social as possible and hang out with lots of people and you will learn how to ask the right questions and send out the right vibes to meet fellow dissidents. If possible try to go to right wing protests or political events.

I have a lot of work in front of me.

There are good things waiting for you on the journey fren. Good luck.

[–]proc0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's good advice, thank you!

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

not fash friendly if you go off the grid

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How so? I'm nearly off grid and drive into town daily and have fashy friends in town I can meet up with at any time. Off grid doesn't have to mean disconnected. Off grid just means you provide your own power and water.