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[–]Q-Continuum-kin 26 insightful - 4 fun26 insightful - 3 fun27 insightful - 4 fun -  (20 children)

Gender ideology is a religion.

[–]Objecting_Sphere 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Exactly. It seems many unintelligent people are unable to exist without some guiding dogmatism in their life. So when they were deprived of traditional religion, they adopted a new dogmatism. I'm afraid true free thought is only possible for a minority who are destined to be persecuted by the sheeplike masses.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

The big issue is that these people have the same persecution complex but it gets viewed as a civil rights issue instead of whiney religious people trying to proselytize.

It's as if the end times preacher who stood on a soap box in the middle of campus and was scoffed at was given a classroom to teach and every HR department is bowing down to him.

Edit - also btw i believe it's in our DNA to be predisposed to religion. It's part of natural selection to have a sense that "everything happens for a reason." If you hear a bush rustle it's better to assume it might be a lion stalking you than to ignore it as random. When culture evolved we had less to worry about but the sense transfers over to say... the sun comes up every day, must be the sun god. Or now some man is like "I'm not masculine enough to be a man... must be a woman."

[–]Objecting_Sphere 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not so different from how religion was treated a few generations ago. Opposing religion used to be seen as a sign of a morally degenerate person. And I agree, there is a certain instinct to attach yourself to a popular belief system and power-wielding orthodox group. Only those with superior commitment to truth will buck the trend.

[–]GrilledTofuIdentifying as a block of tofu 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

i believe it's in our DNA to be predisposed to religion

Part of the reason why most thinkers nowadays think a true atheist is very rare. Many people who claim to be so wind up joining another form of religion either as the woke, partisan politics, or the satanic church. I'm not kidding about the satanic church part.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

The satanic church is there to troll religious people.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Pretty much. It exists solely to bring or provoke court cases with regards to the separation of church and state in the US. Very much a reaction to the early 2000s trend of Christians wanting to put the Ten Commandments on monuments in front of courthouses, teaching creationism in school and instituting mandatory prayer in schools.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Why are most Christians acting like this now? This kind of behavior has always existed on the (loud) fringes, but for the past few years it's become mainstream (prior to that the majority valued religious freedom and other American values similar to many of the founding fathers). This new trend seems to originate from the megachurch pastors like John MacArthur, who have been pushing it for a lot longer. The same group also caused massive shifts in mainstream theology, most notably the move from free grace to lordship salvation.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm not really sure it's a new trend at all it's just more visible again. Society has gone through a kind of woke --> revival ---> woke generational cycle for the last century at least. I suspect it's much longer.

Everyone seems to think each new cycle is unique and the cycle to end all cycles but really I say all is vanity and there is nothing new under the sun. We just forget about it and it comes back looking different and dressed in different language but it's really the same human struggles and conflicts getting played out time and time again.

The Church is by it's nature a political entity and it plays into the larger political landscape and it's power falls and wanes as well. I suspect we'll see a kind of populist christian revival similar to the pentacostalist awakening in the coming years. Though frankly I'm nowhere near as tuned into the Christian mainstream mindset as I was in the past.

Granted we might see something really bizzare take form, I feel like the current party dynamics are shifting and we might see the evangelical side take a far more economically left-wing position and their marriage to the republican party might see that shift play out where the parties shift again as they did in the past. It's hard to say with any certainty.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I've never seen anything like this. Even if a fringe group obtains most of the power, it's still a fringe group. This time everyday irl people are affected, and almost all of them. And the very strange part is their sudden 180 degree turn of their beliefs in multiple core areas.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not strange at all really. It's happened many times throughout history. Need I remind you that Christians were a fringe persecuted group often killed by the Romans until Constantine decided to pull a 180, embrace the then at the time growing cult and reverse centuries of precedent.

Once a fringe group obtains power those who seek power for powers sake will join the fringe group and it will slowly cease to be a fringe group. Many people, hell many devoutly religious people are prone to sudden conversions of ideology. How many people have changed religions throughout history to match with social or regional changes. I've known some immigrants to just up and convert to Christianity when moving to the US because why not? Do they actually believe it? We don't ask those questions.

I also really hate to invoke Godwin's law but that's another prime example of ideological shift over a short period of time. 9/11 was another if you can still remember that through the noise.

[–]r2d2_21 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

You'd think so. But I got into a discussion with their Twitter account a while back, and they seem as religious as actual Christians.

I guess if you want to root for the bad guy you still have to believe in the whole system to begin with.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I guess there can be people who are still believers and choose Satan over "God" which honestly is not a tough sell if you've actually read the bible.

I am an atheist but grew up Catholic and went through all the catechism bs. I actually used to argue with the catechism teachers because religious people will read a story then tell you the conclusion somehow proves how great God is but the story clearly makes God look like the piece of shit so if you could prove abrahamic religions were real then I could be convinced that God was the bad guy. The book of Job is a funny example. The devil here seems more like a Loki character. He casually walks into heaven and makes a bet with God. God then tortures his most loyal servant resulting in Satan winning the bet. God then throws a fit and goes on a 100 page tirade about how great he is then somehow religious people tell you that the story proves God actually won the bet because he is great and perfect etc... It's like... hello?!?! Are you reading the same pages as I am?

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The problem is the idea of inerrancy, which is completely invented by the church. Most "scripture" is the deceitful work of people with an agenda; and the same pattern happens again and again throughout history, a "radical cult" forms, and then an orthodoxy forms a religion out of it in attempt to assimilate them back into society. Even in the New Testament, much of it was actually written by Polycarp and other early "church fathers" who were concerned about the threat Christians posed to society. They always blamed "Marcion" (who seems to have been their main scapegoat for everything) for supposedly cutting out material, so that people wouldn't immediately call them out for what really happened, that they had added it to "prove" the doctrines they wanted Christians to have. Josiah did something similar, claiming he "found" a "lost book of law" when it's obvious that he wrote it.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The problem is the idea of inerrancy

Yeah some of the stuff Christians promote is completely wild. Stuff which is just objectively awful and they celebrate it. In either the late 90s or early 00s I knew a guy who used a signature quote "drive like jehu" when he posted on message boards. It was meaningless to me but I got curious and asked him about it. All he said was it was a biblical quote. So I looked into it and read the corresponding story.

It's basically a glorification of the extermination of people for following another religion. The guy basically encircles Jericho then rides in circles until God magically drops the walls then they go in and kill everything man woman child baby chicken goat etc... So i went back and confronted him about how awful Joshua was and all I got was "you don't understand" etc...

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes we should never completely dismiss the role that real world politics play in church organization and the formation of canon.

We know that our Bible is the only true Bible because it says that it is. Unlike every other religion that lies about being the one true way and final revelation from God.

Final Fantasy IX is the Final Final Fantasy, there are no others after save the heretical apocrypha of Tidus and that unquestionably horrendous Ivalice Heresy. For without Uematsu Final Fantasy is soulless.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The Christian Bible never does say it is, and in fact says it's not in Jeremiah 8:8. Every "proof text" that always gets cited requires reading "the Bible" into it, when read in context it's clearly referring to something else; or it's merely praising a scripture and not calling it perfect. And even if it did, that itself may be a forgery. And assuming it's not, then which books does it consist of?

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's very much like flat earth. You take an idea that's more or less existed forever but is albeit rediculous and not well received. Some people ironically start using it for satirical or other purely philosophical purposes such as forcing an introspective look into dogma. In the case of flat earth the whole point was to draw attention to bad scientific practices and force a more thorough vetting of theory and debate surrounding it since if I can argue that the world is flat and you can't manage to make a compelling argument against that lie and defend the truth, then your position is unstable and open to bad ideas and opportunistic grifters.

Naturally once you start doing this it causes attention, a bunch of numbskulls you are trying to satirize freak the fuck out and it's hilarious. This draws in the the trolls that just want to antagonize and that in turn draws in more idiots and eventually you've got the stupid people drawn to it and who unironically believe it.

While the concept of the "Church of Satan" is indeed quite funny as a satire of the church itself, the larping idiots that actually want to live it take things way too far.

It's much like with any kind of marginalized counter-cultural group in a way. You could say the same thing about furries. Sure you've got some who just like to dress up as animals and buy plushies and it's not a sex thing, but for all their complaints that it's not a sex thing, there's so many of them out there where it's very very very clearly a sex thing that it basically paints the whole group with the same brush.

In the same vein satanists have basically passed the point where it was a funny troll to actually being the thing they claim to be and the Christians take it very very seriously. At this point it wouldn't actually surprise me if some utter edgelord type in the church of Satan does something truly retarded like vandalize a church with aborted fetus remains or some such and claim it's a protected religious expression.

[–]CreditKnifeMan 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

$cience is a religion. It can't be questioned.

But, maybe it can be..

¿$cience?

[–]TotoroDeams 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

All it did is help clump the insanely stupid into one group. Now we can confidently know who to keep out of our lives.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 13 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

People are getting dumber regardless. At least the traditional religions promoted morality, forgiveness, discipline and self improvement.

[–]exiled_from_reddit 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

this doesn't sound like a rational take. Average IQ stagnated in many developed nations, in some places it decreased, but only a little.

And if traditional religions look to you like they have significant benefits, it's only by comparison with woke lunacy.

[–]fschmidt 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Yes, religious morons are better than atheist morons, but neither is acceptable to me. Don't you think it is worth dealing with the moron problem?

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Yes. Morons are a problem regardless of their religious believes.

[–]fschmidt 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So do you have a solution? Mine is here.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As some day it may happen that a victim must be found I've got a little list — I've got a little list Of society offenders who might well be underground And who never would be missed — who never would be missed! There's the pestilential nuisances who write for autographs — All people who have flabby hands and irritating laughs — All children who are up in dates, and floor you with 'em flat — All persons who in shaking hands, shake hands with you like that — And all third persons who on spoiling tête-á-têtes insist — They'd none of 'em be missed — they'd none of 'em be missed!

[Chorus] He's got 'em on the list — he's got 'em on the list; And they'll none of 'em be missed — they'll none of 'em be missed

[KO-KO] There's the nigger serenader, and the others of his race And the piano-organist — I've got him on the list! And the people who eat peppermint and puff it in your face They never would be missed — they never would be missed! Then the idiot who praises, with enthusiastic tone All centuries but this, and every country but his own; And the lady from the provinces, who dresses like a guy And who "doesn't think she dances, but would rather like to try"; And that singular anomaly, the lady novelist — I don't think she'd be missed — I'm sure she'd not he missed!

[Chorus] He's got her on the list — he's got her on the list; And I don't think she'll be missed — I'm sure she'll not be missed!

[KO-KO] And that Nisi Prius nuisance, who just now is rather rife The Judicial humorist — I've got him on the list! All funny fellows, comic men, and clowns of private life — They'd none of 'em be missed — they'd none of 'em be missed And apologetic statesmen of a compromising kind Such as — What d'ye call him — Thing'em-bob, and likewise — Never-mind And 'St— 'st— 'st— and What's-his-name, and also You-know-who — The task of filling up the blanks I'd rather leave to you But it really doesn't matter whom you put upon the list For they'd none of 'em be missed — they'd none of 'em be missed!

[Chorus] You may put 'em on the list — you may put 'em on the list; And they'll none of 'em be missed — they'll none of 'em be missed!

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

But the mainstream orthodoxy has always shut that down anyway, so there's little difference.

[–]Neo_Shadow_Lurker 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Eh... I think you're forgetting of Atheism+ and how it caused a giant division within atheist communities.

I would argue that the genesis of modern wokeism was idpol and intersectionality, not atheism/neoatheism.

Even before Atheism+ a huge number of atheists were already getting alienated with the sudden shift of focus that was already in progress on major atheist circles, many which abandoned religion as a subject to push woke identitarian bs.

The funniest thing of all is that this exact process also happened with feminism and gay rights movements: once major victories were achieved, they all shifted focus to the next trendy social justice cause, which was transgenderism.

[–]On_WheelsWe need to secure the existence of the gay race 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There was enormous split among the atheist "community" over idpol and if I remember correctly Islam. It pretty much killed the community, by splitting it in half.

The funniest thing of all is that this exact process also happened with feminism and gay rights movements: once major victories were achieved, they all shifted focus to the next trendy social justice cause, which was transgenderism.

Never thought about it, but it did happen. Like a mistletoe parasiting off of other major social movements.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

They only care about who will make a loyal voterbase.

[–]JasonCarswellSisyphus / Ouroboros 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Why? It's all for show. They can just rig it. More importantly, they need the majority to believe they have a say and that voting matters. The sheeple can be lead anywhere.

[–]GrilledTofuIdentifying as a block of tofu 7 insightful - 6 fun7 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

Slippery slope fallacy, the internet atheists alway jeered. Slippery slope fallacy.

Turns out the so-called fallacy is reality huh?

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 6 fun5 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

BUT MUH PHALLUSY111!1

[–]Rob3122 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Let's just kindly forget about the millions of kids who have been sexually abused by members of their religion...

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

It's not "millions" yet, but I'm sure that transvestite admiral is working on it.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Usually the religious ones are just pedo priests, who often rage about "sexual sin" but either think this is okay or deny doing it.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's the modus operandi of the pedophile to seek out positions of authority that give them access to children. Be that the church, education, boy scouts, doesn't matter what.

Nothing special about religion here frankly, though I do think the confession box do make an environment for Catholics that allows for pedophiles to thrive in that environment specifically. Guy gets to hear about all the impure thoughts of his underage congregation in private. For the pedophile makes it super easy to find victims, and since his colleagues will likely be celibate they might not even understand normal sexual activity anyway and be blind to the wolf amongst them.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Nah the Christians are pozzed too

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

NO, fuck religions, it only holds humanity back.

If not religion, maybe i would sit right now in some cool bar in space station sipping space beer with the alien boyfriend.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 7 fun6 insightful - 6 fun7 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

tips fedora

[–]Aerozine[S] 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

That has no basis in history in any shape or form.

[–]Airbus320 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Coomer

[–]LtGreenCo 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I'm an Atheist but I was brought up in a Christian culture and I appreciate its emphasis on community, family and tradition. I think a lot of people need that in their lives.

But I think this argument is wrong. It's not a lack of religion that's to blame for gender ideology; it's a lack of critical thinking skills. Our public education system has seriously devolved. Kids are no longer being taught how to think, they're being taught what to think. And the people teaching them what to think are cultural Marxists.

[–]fschmidt 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

The problem isn't just education. Modern culture is dysgenic. See Idiocracy for the core problem.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Christian culture isn't the same anymore. It's still on "community, family and tradition", but it's now all reactionary identity politics, and suddenly they want to go back to monarchy and 1950s gender roles and all kinds of mistakes of the past after being the ones who defeated them in the first place. They secretly hate Jesus and think he's a poor example to follow because he's "weak" and doesn't allow them to persecute their enemies, which seems to be their sole reason for existing at the moment. Many of their new values blatantly contradict their own book, such as saying not being in a hyper-traditional marriage with children by the age of 20 is sinful, when this is in fact praised multiple times in the Bible, and they don't care.

This is only a very recent development, I'd say no earlier than a few years ago, sparing the fringes which have always existed. Prior to that this was the stereotype, but it was false until now.

[–]r2d2_21 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

Great bait mate, but you're not convincing me to become religious.

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    [–]r2d2_21 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

    The fuck are you talking about? You don't need to “justify” human rights for them to keep existing.

    I'm sorry an atheist ate your ice cream when you were a kid or something.

    [–]sproketboy 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

    For example: The Chinese government is sterilizing Uyghurs (you need the correct spelling to search on google btw). Basically, they're genociding them because they're "in the way". What's your argument against that? That it's mean?

    We can make an argument that God created all people in his image and that all people are equal in the eyes of God. WHETHER GOD EXISTS OR NOT. Since it's unfalsifiable - that part is irrelevant. BUT if a high enough percentage of people don't believe in that then we HAVE NO GROUND TO STAND ON ANYMORE. Get it?

    u/JasonCarswell

    [–]JasonCarswellSisyphus / Ouroboros 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

    I still don't understand you.

    Everyone is born with all the rights to do anything you want (including all the bad things). If you're stranded on an island you are free to do anything you can. When there is more than one, it all changes. Only social limitations will remove any "rights" and mafia governments can only take your rights away, never able give you any rights you already had. It first starts from the fundamentals of Natural Law (applicable to all species) in small groups - that you do not transgress (deceive, steal, harm, kill) against others of your kind, and from there it gets more complex as the tribes, cities, nations, or schools of thought grow along with more corrupting centralized power that manipulate and exploit "us vs them" conflicts.

    Fuck equality in the eyes of God and fuck God and his image as he's an irrelevant mythical fiction and we're not all equal. But for social stability and cohesion we must be fair and treat each other equally in a bottom-up meritocracy. Everything else is political corruption.

    Perhaps you're arguing that without God people would not have reason to lead moral unselfish lives. Finding subjective meaning in things (largely in helping others), leads to purpose, building fulfillment, and accumulates joy in life - but our enslavement training and consumerist culture is broken our spirits intentionally in an infinite number of ways distracting and destroying most people's hopes leaving little else besides the hustle. Most people simply don't have the ability to understand this much less the curiosity to search for deeper richer lives - thus they suffer a slow painful death by infinite cuts.

    [–]Alienhunter糞大名 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Rights are unironically a social concept and don't actually exist. They only exist in a society where everyone agrees that they exist.

    The concept of God here is to try to abstract that a bit and give society a point at which to rally around and take the guilt and onus for unpleasant decisions, such as having to restrict the rights of others such as criminals in order to protect the rights of society as a whole.

    The problem I think we come to is while you and me can argue for a completely rational and materialistic basis for why we should have morals and find meaning in helping each other out, I don't think a lot of people can. They will essentially just say "if I can take something for myself and enrich myself I shall even if it leads to the detriment of society as a whole".

    Without the concept of some kind of a higher power being used people will invariably decide they are the highest power and act in manners that resemble anarchy which of course removes humans major evolutionary advantage in working together for the sake of the whole while still maintaining the individual will and room for creativity and growth. In our case we may well find that higher power to be society as a whole, which is a perfectly rational argument to make, but many others will not grasp that concept and need the personification of that to be a guiding force in their lives. It is precisely why atheistic communist revolutions tend to deify their revolutionary leaders as a personification of society. Like Kim IL Sung. Mao, Ho Chi-Minh, etc.

    Without God, humans will create their own god to fill the void. As they have done before. So they shall do again.

    [–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    If all higher powers are just mythical then everything is just mythical, in which case that fact is irrelevant, because you're here anyway.

    This is an inherently evil realm of indifference, the only thing it cares about is natural selection, and we are all the lab rats. Anyone pretending it's good or that it is even itself God is either deceived or in denial or lying. "Nature" is one of the worst basis for morality for this reason, and yet it's all anyone seems to look to. It helps advance the species or the tribe, a stupid, pointless game, and yes I dared to say so.

    [–]JasonCarswellSisyphus / Ouroboros 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Agree, except for Nature being indifferent, the worst, or immoral - all subjective judgements. It just is. And it's just rational logic.

    But as individuals with subjective interests, it's up to us to find our own deeper meanings in life - or not, or be a sheeple and have others decide for you.

    And yes, life is stupid, pointless, and full of needless suffering - along with good stuff too. Worth it? You decide.

    [–]sproketboy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Yeah, that will make a good civilization. NOT.

    [–]JasonCarswellSisyphus / Ouroboros 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Better than what we're stuck with.
    "Govern me harder daddy!"

    [–]sproketboy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    [–]JasonCarswellSisyphus / Ouroboros 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    You should know there's also a Bill Of Rights.

    [–]JasonCarswellSisyphus / Ouroboros 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    ???

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    tips fedora

    [–]r2d2_21 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I can't afford one, unfortunately

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Science help us!

    [–]ottobitpollo 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    If gender ideology is a religion, then it's actually religion that ruined an entire generation. Think about it. Religion should mean the search for spiritual meaning, enlightenment, understanding, peace. It should be something awesome. But we all know religion for most people is just dogmatic tribalism that sometimes demands you dehumanize others or accept dogma as fact.

    [–]JasonCarswellSisyphus / Ouroboros 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    How about the religion of mafia government, a blind faith in authority with capitalist, communist, conservative, and liberal sects? Or the religion of $cientism? Any cult big enough is called a religion, culture, or "way of life".

    Cry out, "Govern me harder daddy!" as you feel the awesome power of the boot on your neck.

    [–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Religion is dogmatic by nature. One does not have to be religious to believe in God. One can also be an Atheist at heart while still practicing religion.

    Dogma has it's place in society it just needs to be kept in balance. Too much dogma and creativity and thought is discouraged and society will fail to adapt as necessary. Too little and society will adapt too quickly without direction and will die.

    [–]agelmat 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

    Which Christianity should I follow then? Orthodox, Catholic or Protestant? Is the Capibara still a fish according to the Vatican?

    [–]Alienhunter糞大名 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (5 children)

    You gotta follow Alienhunterism it's the one true faith. You pay me 10% of your income and in return you don't go to hell when you die. Good deal! I'll even accept payments on behalf of your dead relatives like the Catholics and Mormons but unlike the Catholics and Mormons I have proof that my method actually works with a solid 100% paper plastic laminated certificate of authenticity signed by God himself through proxy.

    [–]agelmat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Lol. But what about the Alienhunter orthodox sect?

    [–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    Ah for 20% of your income you can upgrade to orthodox status and gain access to the secret golden floppy disks that were unfortunately demagnetized by she who shall not be named following the [redacted upgrade to orthodox to learn more!]

    [–]agelmat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    What about the reformed sect? What are they selling?

    [–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Those fucking heretics don't pay me or make me any money.

    I mean ahem, they have given into the folly of following their own wisdom and have strayed from the one true path.

    [–]agelmat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Do you have crusades? If you let me nail people to crosses, I am down for anything. :)

    [–]SaidOverRed 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

    Door Number 1

    [–]agelmat 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Got proof that I am choosing the right one?

    [–]SaidOverRed 4 insightful - 6 fun4 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

    It is the most beautifully based. Enjoy the incense fren

    [–]agelmat 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Retake Constantinople too?

    [–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    None of them, they're all part of the plot to assimilate Christians into society and cover up the original beliefs, which are largely anti-world and anti-society.

    [–]JasonCarswellSisyphus / Ouroboros 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Shitty argument on MANY levels.

    [–]fschmidt 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    This is a self-correcting problem. While atheists worry about pregnant men, religious people will have large families. Problem solved in a few generations.

    [–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Despite many religions strongly urging people not to even marry, they are the ones who do it most.

    [–]sproketboy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Nah, these fucks are just some of the useful idiots.