The Parrott Memo - Wikispooks by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]Robin[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Proof he was somewhere else, for example? Creating a document trail. This is well discussed in https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Family_Of_Secrets See also https://wikispooks.com/wiki/George_H._W._Bush/Exposure#Parrott_Phonecall_.28exposed_1988.29

The Parrott Memo - Wikispooks by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]useless_aether 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

crazy. why would papa bush give his real name while snitching/deceiving?

The Clinton Body Count by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

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On February 1, 2020, the mayor of Florence, Italy declared "Hug a Chinese" day as a stand against racism. This was before Italy was later forced to quarantine its entire country because of the coronavirus. It has already been forgotten. by Chipit in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Hey Chipit.

Remember a couple of months ago when you were pretending to be a Chinese woman called SNOW???

I remember that.

On February 1, 2020, the mayor of Florence, Italy declared "Hug a Chinese" day as a stand against racism. This was before Italy was later forced to quarantine its entire country because of the coronavirus. It has already been forgotten. by Chipit in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]Tom9152 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The Indigenous People of Europe are suffering the same as the Indigenous People of North America. Diseased invaders.

RIP Joan Rivers (Obama is Gay, Michelle is a Tranny) by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]TheDesperateLurker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wait do people actually believe Michelle Obama is a man? Wtf?

Anti-Semitism & 9/11 - CNN Interviews Christopher Bollyn by d3rr in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ask youself why they are talking about it? There's always an agenda.

Bollyn is good, but he got some shady connections that I cannot shake off.

Abortion in America: The legal history by supertms38 in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]AnarchySpeach 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A dude kills 30 million people, no one bats an eye.

Suddenly you realize there's more deaths caused by a kleenex tissue box than we'll ever know.

When the average teenager beats Stalin's high score on a daily basis it's kinda hard keep a serious conversation about this.

Anti-Semitism & 9/11 - CNN Interviews Christopher Bollyn by d3rr in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]d3rr[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Aside from the Bollyn stuff, it's noteworthy to see MSM talking about Israeli involvement in 9/11.

Remember the Integrity Initiative Leak? Guess how many sentences there are on it in Wikipedia...? by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]AbeFroman 0 insightful - 2 fun0 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Damn! I was going to guess 4! Oh well

Remember the Integrity Initiative Leak? Guess how many sentences there are on it in Wikipedia...? by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]Robin[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Spoiler: Three.

For a more detailed look, https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Integrity_Initiative/Leak

RIP Joan Rivers (Obama is Gay, Michelle is a Tranny) by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

furthering leftist goals is the polar opposite of anything important and of value

RIP Joan Rivers (Obama is Gay, Michelle is a Tranny) by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]Penelope 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Is exposing mass deception not of importance or value?

RIP Joan Rivers (Obama is Gay, Michelle is a Tranny) by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]newguy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Right wing disinfo talking points. Clearly a distraction from anything of importance and value.

RIP Joan Rivers (Obama is Gay, Michelle is a Tranny) by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]newguy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Attention-seeking loser, who used right-wing disinformation talking points as a way to regain her lost popularity. Sad.

Reuters called it "the biggest arms-dealing case in U.S. history." Wikipedia calls it a "controversy" & doesn't give it its own page... by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]codeineblues 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It was good enough for a while that the real info is buried in the History section of the pages of any "controversial" wiki article.

Never forget Killdozer by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]codeineblues 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No better soundtrack to this than Propagandhi - Ordinary People Do Fucked Up Things When Fucked Up Things Become Ordinary (2001). It's a rager too. Good god, if the guy had nothing else, no family, that was the only thing to do.

Deception was my job: how Soviet Communism waged psychological warfare on the United States (yt banned) by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]codeineblues 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You could just reverse countries and have somebody say that, hell a lot said that, ex-NSA and whistleblower Russ Tice has fucked with many countries in his life, he has enormous balls and never had the publicity of Snowjob.

RIP Joan Rivers (Obama is Gay, Michelle is a Tranny) by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

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Too much botox! Less chances of peace.

Corpse won't decompose well and soul would be trapped

RIP Joan Rivers (Obama is Gay, Michelle is a Tranny) by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]m68k 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I fucking miss her, she was great. She had quite an interesting career.

The Clinton Body Count by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]useless_aether[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

and soon, chelsea will be taking over the 'family business'

The Clinton Body Count by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Is that all?

yes, i am also thinking there should be more than this.

there are def html lists too floating around

The Clinton Body Count by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]useless_aether[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

on a semi related note, someone on reddit said that maybe the rape drug rohypnol was used for the doorknob hangings. it puts you in a coma-like state (webmd and other source) and then it's easy to be suffocated

The Clinton Body Count by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]Chungus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The sex slaves that Bill and Hillary had sex with and then got off on their murders count too, right?

The Clinton Body Count by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]fatbitchboypussc 4 insightful - 6 fun4 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

lock em up

The Clinton Body Count by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]d3rr 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I tried to get to the bottom of the Shawn Lucas death. The "official" cause of death is fentanyl, cyclobenzaprine (muscle relaxant), and mitragynine (kratom). But the only source of this autopsy information seems to be heavy.com who somehow got talked D.C. out of it. Because of D.C. privacy laws, the autopsy is only released to family members.

So his inclusion on this list is sounding pretty unconfirmed to me.

The Clinton Body Count by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]Timmy 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There isn't one that a Clinton fan would actually believe.

The Clinton Body Count by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]Timmy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The day is young!

The Clinton Body Count by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A+++ Great list.

Is that all?

I guess you can't include Epstein or Assange (yet), nor all those thousands or millions killed in the European bombing-for-peace, Somalia, and other campaigns.

Wonder if it's open source? Some things could double up on the icons (ie. Affair + Suicided). Would be nice to add more photos, make it interactive/hyperlinked, etc.

The Clinton Body Count by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]useless_aether[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

maybe you have a better clinton body count compilation?

The Clinton Body Count by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]ctrlaltdelete 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They’re here spreading misinformation on saidit, too? Welp, it’s been fun while it lasted.

Anti-Soviet Warrior puts his army on the road of peace - 1993 by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]Tiwaking 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

When you deal with terrorists, expect terror.

Never forget Killdozer by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

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poor guy. i just wish he didn't kill himself.

Never forget Killdozer by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]AntiLowEffortHuman 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not from the USA so this wasn't on the news but they showed it on the Discovery channel on either Rampage or Destroyed in Seconds. This particular incident stuck out to me from many others on the show. Mainly because I kept thinking "what could drive a man to this kind of insanity?" Iirc they had to cut through the concrete for 3 hours before finding his dead body.

I don't remember exactly what they said but they totally left out the part about him being wronged. I only came to know about this today.

RIP and happy killdozer day.

Never forget Killdozer by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]AntiLowEffortHuman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Iirc he also blew a head gasket.

Never forget Killdozer by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]Enza 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm getting it too; it's not a reliable image hosting site tbh.

Never forget Killdozer by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]Chipit 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This happens to all of them. There was some man who stole a tank from a National Guard armory and drove it around until he found the only tank trap for miles. The Killdozer caved in a floor and found itself stuck in the basement. German tanks in Stalingrad often did the same. The other guy got high-centered on a highway divider and took the treads away from the ground.

All either of them had to do was avoid the extremely rare tank traps in America and all of them managed to find one.

Never forget Killdozer by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]happysmash27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Cloudflare Error 522: Connection timed out.

Never forget Killdozer by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]Butttcandy 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Rip marvin

Never forget Killdozer by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

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The hero we need, not the hero we deserve.

Never forget Killdozer by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

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2007: A CIA jet crashed in Mexico with tonnes of cocaine on board. Reported by multiple corporate media sources, including Reuters. The wikipedia page about this event survived for 6 days. by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]Robin[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's #2 on some random Corporate controlled media trustworthiness graphic used to try to demonise independent reporting: https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Political_spectrum#Conventional_usage ... - and definitely on Wikipedia's list of trusted sources (unlike one or two corporate sources such as the Daily Mail).

If you're into careful reading of headlines, try this: https://saidit.net/s/greatawakening/comments/ro1/i_just_read_that_the_us_govt_claims_the_right_to/ - I'm still kind of surprised that no readers seemed to get it.

2007: A CIA jet crashed in Mexico with tonnes of cocaine on board. Reported by multiple corporate media sources, including Reuters. The wikipedia page about this event survived for 6 days. by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]CompleteDoubterII 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Including Reuters? Is Reuters somehow different to other corporate media sources?

"The biggest arms-dealing case in U.S. history" and it doesn't have a Wikipedia page... by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]Robin[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I confess, I deliberately left out a URL to follow - to highlights how far down the memory hole it got flushed. That quote from Reuters is one of the few ways to identify it.

I wonder why it only got 3 votes when I posted it with the URL at: https://saidit.net/s/DownTheMemoryHole/comments/w3v/reuters_called_it_the_biggest_armsdealing_case_in/

"The biggest arms-dealing case in U.S. history" and it doesn't have a Wikipedia page... by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This was a conspicuously absent detail....

Thanks for connecting the dot. ;-)

"The biggest arms-dealing case in U.S. history" and it doesn't have a Wikipedia page... by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]fred_red_beans 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I assume OP is referring to:

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Arms_for_Libya

Remarkable how CCTV cameras are either (i) not working, (ii) working, but the footage gets lost, or (iii) working, but legal proceedings seal the footage for 70+ years... by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]painstakingly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Cameras are for protecting the business and social order, not the people.

Remarkable how CCTV cameras are either (i) not working, (ii) working, but the footage gets lost, or (iii) working, but legal proceedings seal the footage for 70+ years... by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]sodasplash 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You can't understand how fucking blessed I feel. The guy said he found it in the gutter. I gave him $100 just out of instinct. Not only is it a $500+ phone but all of the things that are on it...

Our phones are so ridiculously important to us now. It's stupid.

Remarkable how CCTV cameras are either (i) not working, (ii) working, but the footage gets lost, or (iii) working, but legal proceedings seal the footage for 70+ years... by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Bro. You gotta move. Or at least stop going to Golden Corral.

Yeah I never went back to that buffet. It was 7 years ago though. I lost some pictures but it wasn't a huge deal at the end of the day. But the point is, they wouldn't let me see the security footage.

That's amazing you found your phone, that's awesome!

Remarkable how CCTV cameras are either (i) not working, (ii) working, but the footage gets lost, or (iii) working, but legal proceedings seal the footage for 70+ years... by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]sodasplash 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Bro. You gotta move. Or at least stop going to Golden Corral.

I woke one morning last week and my phone was nowhere to be found. Luckily, I have a backup phone and I used it to call my phone.

Someone answered.

He said, yeah, he found my phone in the gutter about 20 blocks away. Within two hours, I had my phone back and I gave the guy $100 cash just out of straight gratitude.

Magic happens.

Remarkable how CCTV cameras are either (i) not working, (ii) working, but the footage gets lost, or (iii) working, but legal proceedings seal the footage for 70+ years... by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]sodasplash 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I recently heard a story from a poker player. He had about $30 in chips stolen from him by the player next to him. He called the Floorman and demanded they look at the tape. The Floorman just gave him the money in dispute. He said it wasn't worth his time to go to the tape.

Six years ago, I was assaulted outside a bar. My attorney sent a letter within two weeks demanding the preservation of any CCTV footage. It was preserved and it was gruesome. I'm not certain how much it contributed to the settlement of my case but it was there and provided upon legal demand.

If it's a business, 99% of the reason that there are cameras installed, it's to spy on workers. Remember the movie Friday? When Ice Cube got fired on his day off for stealing boxes?

Remarkable how CCTV cameras are either (i) not working, (ii) working, but the footage gets lost, or (iii) working, but legal proceedings seal the footage for 70+ years... by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was at a buffet once and left my phone at the table and when I got back from the buffet my phone was gone. It was stupid of me to leave it there, my mistake. Anyway there were security cameras everywhere. The manager was there, and I told them what happened and wanted to see the security footage and he wouldn't even consider it! Then outside the door there was a policeman standing guard. It was weird. I'm pretty sure that restaurant stole my phone. What's the point of having security cameras if you refuse to look at them when a crime happens?

Reuters called it "the biggest arms-dealing case in U.S. history." Wikipedia calls it a "controversy" & doesn't give it its own page... by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]Robin[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I confess, I'm disappointed by the lack of votes this received yesterday. It's an age old formula:- Sell weapons, big up the threat, then repeat. An unnamed US delegate to the 1986 Bilderberg stated that “Libya is the principal sponsor of terrorism. It finances terrorist acts, it trains terrorist groups, it supplies arms, ammunition..."

If Wikipedia has gaps like this, even when corporate media reports it, who knows what it's missing that never got reported on... ?

2007: A CIA jet crashed in Mexico with tonnes of cocaine on board. Reported by multiple corporate media sources, including Reuters. The wikipedia page about this event survived for 6 days. by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]thefadd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I remember that. Totally thought the whole Gary Webb thing might still blow up huge. But we also had Stealth bombers flying across the country with armed nukes and Obama needed to beat Hillary needed to beat McCain.

Man, McCain would have made such a great President.

Le Cercle is older, more regular, much more secretive and probably more important the Bilderberg. Wikipedia's article on it is just 9 sentences... A link to the Wikispooks article was deleted after 10 minutes. by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

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Money is just a tool. You don't own everything just becacause you own the money. It is only easy to think that as you was born into a scripted reality where you was teached that everything can be weighted up with money, but money is in fact just illusionary numbers on colourfull paper bits or not even that anymore, but just faceless virtual numbers as it is for nowdays. It is literally magic, they make people "believe" in money, but for itself, money is absolutely worthless. It becomes funny in a sad way when you know that and you can see everyone around you desperately running and working for a few colourfull bits of imaginary numbers, it also becomes sad in a funny way. Core members of Le Cercle wear a tattoo of a laughing and a crying mask or at least they used to, just like the Yakuza or some motorcycle gangs uses/used tattoos as an identification code, before the modern times changed that item into microchips that can be implanted invisible under the skin. The only real thing of value on this planet is life. You literally pay everything in this world with time and blood, since this is all we've got. The means of payment in secret societies like Le Cercle is in fact the time and blood of the innocent. That literally means to kill children. The circles of the ruling chairs in this world are in fact just a criminal ring of child abusers and it has even come so far that everyone heard about that fact at least one time, but everyone is aware at the same time that there is absolutely nothing they could do against it. You can only try to blend it out and keep on living somehow. It is also meant to feel no regret for those abusers, since their construct of belief wants them to be mind and bones without a soul - that's how they define their state of power and in order to preserve it, many sacrifices must be made.

Le Cercle is older, more regular, much more secretive and probably more important the Bilderberg. Wikipedia's article on it is just 9 sentences... A link to the Wikispooks article was deleted after 10 minutes. by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

the Rothschilds are only involved because there is a lot of money involved which they own.

This means they run it, imo. If you're the majority funder of something, you run it. See NATO and the US for example.

Interesting though, I've not heard much of this Le Cercle (Which I assume means 'the circle' in French) before, always good to learn about new aspects of the world power structures.

Le Cercle is older, more regular, much more secretive and probably more important the Bilderberg. Wikipedia's article on it is just 9 sentences... A link to the Wikispooks article was deleted after 10 minutes. by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

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Actually they are not, the Rothschilds are only involved because there is a lot of money involved which they own. Le Cercle is responsible for pulling the strings in both world wars from the triggers of the outbreak til the "aftercare" propaganda. Le Cercle also made the slavery of black folks big back then and is still very interested in keeping all other folks in a permanent state of slavery as well. In order to become part of it, it isn't enough to be rich af, but to do very nasty things that are absolutely inexpressible. "The jews are crazy, but the french are evil", my good friend uses to say.

edit: translate fail

Le Cercle is older, more regular, much more secretive and probably more important the Bilderberg. Wikipedia's article on it is just 9 sentences... A link to the Wikispooks article was deleted after 10 minutes. by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

All controlled by the same Rothschild-originated Zionist groups. Freemasonry is huge in France.

Even though many many French and Jews disagree with them, they've taken over their names. They've taken over many names. Amazing what owning the legal money-creation abilities of a country can get for you.

Le Cercle is older, more regular, much more secretive and probably more important the Bilderberg. Wikipedia's article on it is just 9 sentences... A link to the Wikispooks article was deleted after 10 minutes. by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

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My good friend with the beautiful horns knows best, when he claims "the french" are even worse than "the jews".

Flashback to 2013: "Omidyar’s PayPal Corporation Said To Be Implicated in Withheld NSA Documents", that's the documents which you won't be seeing any more of now that they're being "shuttered", er, due to cost... by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

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she married her brother, about to come out. even snopes not denying. too bad, it was cool how she criticized AIPAC, tho that may have been on purpose, make it look like only an idiot would do that.

Guns & Butter: The Vocabulary of Economic Deception by Tom_Bombadil in DownTheMemoryHole

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The only thing I find odd is that his father was a trotskyite and I'm not really fond of Trotsky. He seems to push marxist Ideas, though he is right when it comes to the neoliberal agenda,

r/conspiracy text post archive by d3rr in DownTheMemoryHole

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MK-ULTRA related CIA FOIA search results by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

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search for whatever tho..

NZ shooting video by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

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NZ shooting video by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

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the music in the car is serbian nationalistic music

theforbiddenknowledge.com is gone by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

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So much is disappearing from there now. What a joke.

Dallas City Council Votes To Remove Confederate War Memorial | 8chan by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

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Dallas City Council Votes To Remove Confederate War Memorial

The Confederate War Memorial in Dallas’ Pioneer Park Cemetery will be removed. The Dallas City Council voted 11 to 4 Wednesday evening to take it down.

Erected in 1896, it’s the city’s oldest public monument. It sits between Dallas City Hall and the convention center.

Removing the monument is estimated to cost around $480,000. The city must still get approval from the Landmark Commission before the memorial can come down. However, Preservation Dallas warned the council that the removal from a designated historical area would set a “dangerous precedent. “We need to take this down. We don’t need to re-envision anything”, Dallas Councilman Kevin Felder said last Wednesday, February 6, during a briefing session regarding the monument. The city is tasked with a proposal to either rework the 65-foot tall statue with accurate historic context and information or dismantle the century-old monument. Dallas removed its Robert E. Lee statue in September 2017 after it stood in what was then Robert E. Lee Park for 81 years.

https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2019/02/13/dallas-remove-confederate-war-memorial/

https://archive.is/xpbj7

OP - https://8ch.net/pol/res/12799354.html

Given the trend in YouTube documentaries getting taken down, let’s discuss ways to preserve them. [reddit] by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

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I posted a more detailed reply to OP's points, but you've probably already gotten the notification in your inbox. ^

Given the trend in YouTube documentaries getting taken down, let’s discuss ways to preserve them. [reddit] by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]Riff 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Uploading to another video site like Vimeo.com seems like it could be a good idea, but I haven’t researched Vimeo thoroughly, such as learning more about the company and its trajectory, how they make their money, etc. Maybe there are new websites that promise long-term preservation of public videos, or this could be the goal of a new company. Should that company be a non-profit like Wikipedia?

If one is afraid of the possible decisions of a company or group, don't put too much effort and trust into the platform. We've lost countless services to a change of ideology and pulling out Wikipedia as an example of how a non-profit organization is a good choice is counter-productive.

WikiPedia is one of the most censored platforms out there.

Basically, how do you prevent a YouTube like incident from occurring again. If the hypothetical company promises to archive and keep videos public or on the server for perpetuity, how does that really work? Can users still delete their own videos?

It's all down to the agreement the user makes with the company or organization. I don't think there's a clause in the YT TOS that YT have to host anything, I believe it's closer to "YouTube is free to delete content it finds unsuitable for the platform".

So, step 1 to prevent a YouTube like incident from occurring again is to make agreements with content platforms that makes sure that's not an option for the platform.

If a user uploads something like a documentary, and somehow provides a proof of right to upload, or uploads original content, what ways can that be video be protected from future owners of the platform?

AFAIK, a permanent agreement that puts the needs of the user above the company (that's not going to happen), government regulation overruling user-hostile terms of service (I hope that doesn't happen) or make sure you're the one owning the platform and just never sell it. (This is happening right now, the decentralization revolution is well underway).

Edit: Another thought for the hypothetical platform. Maybe a video viewcount or donations adds server time and increases the promised length of time a video will be saved, or that time could be purchased by the uploader or just be supported by the company.

That's a solution that only works within the bounds of a permanent and user-friendly agreement with the content platform. And even what is considered reasonable terms of service (see WikiPedia), it's still open for abuse.

The only solution I see that takes care of the proposed problem is self-hosting, and in practical terms for a regular user that means decentralized or P2P-networks.

I mean, I've already unofficially connected my personal, decentralized cloud solution to PeerTube instances (official support in the works) to subscribe to channels and if so inclined I can host my own PeerTube server and select what videos I want to help stay available by hosting a copy on my own content platform.

Given the trend in YouTube documentaries getting taken down, let’s discuss ways to preserve them. [reddit] by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

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And is there a trend in YT documentaries getting taken down or are you talking about YT not recommending "conspiracy" documentaries any more?

i think both is happening. and they keep tweeking their algos, so what was true yesterday is not true today.

btw, i just posted this link, so we can see if they come up w/ something new...

Given the trend in YouTube documentaries getting taken down, let’s discuss ways to preserve them. [reddit] by useless_aether in DownTheMemoryHole

[–]Riff 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Download for personal storage and self-hosting on PeerTube-servers if the user is so inclined? Torrents?

And is there a trend in YT documentaries getting taken down or are you talking about YT not recommending "conspiracy" documentaries any more? After double checking a few classics, they're still there, still promoting their views...

In 2017 a German was soldier "temporarily detained" by Austrian police at Vienna airport on firearms charges. Later found to have created a fake Syrian ID. Case dropped down the memory hole "due to insufficient evidence"... by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

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Thanks for this report. It's not the first report of such difficulties accessing the site, but it is the most detailed. I'll investigate and get back to you on this. Which version of Chromium BTW?

In 2017 a German was soldier "temporarily detained" by Austrian police at Vienna airport on firearms charges. Later found to have created a fake Syrian ID. Case dropped down the memory hole "due to insufficient evidence"... by Robin in DownTheMemoryHole

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I'm having a hard time using wikispooks.com. There seems to be a wicked javascript error causing the page content to disappear. You can see js errors in the console:

load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=12i8zy8:176 TypeError: Cannot read property 'appendChild' of null TypeError: Cannot read property 'appendChild' of null
    at HTMLDocument.eval (eval at <anonymous> (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=12i8zy8:4), <anonymous>:146:218)
    at fire (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=12i8zy8:45)
    at Object.add [as done] (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=12i8zy8:45)
    at jQuery.fn.init.jQuery.fn.ready (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=12i8zy8:49)
    at new jQuery.fn.init (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=12i8zy8:41)
    at jQuery (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=12i8zy8:1)
    at eval (eval at <anonymous> (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=12i8zy8:4), <anonymous>:146:173)
    at mw.loader.implement.css (eval at <anonymous> (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=12i8zy8:4), <anonymous>:148:942)
    at Object.<anonymous> (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=12i8zy8:161)
    at fire (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=12i8zy8:45)

Using Chromium on Arch (alright it's Manjaro)

"The Boston Unbombing 2016 Documentary (BANNED)" (2019-01-19) by Mr Stosh on YouTube - CENSORED OFF VIMEO and likely YouTube soon, again by JasonCarswell in DownTheMemoryHole

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Link?

If I recall, Jim Fetzer's analysis was pretty good and covered most of it, and his analysis of Sandy Hook too, thought there were some errors - and while I have yet to see him retract those errors, I honestly haven't watched him for a long time to know if he has or not.

But the one that totally cemented the fakery of the Boston Bombing for me was this painstakingly detailed analysis tracking every person through all photos and videos and explaining their roles in the staged performance - staged much like a theatrical play - with several scene directors, many crisis actors, their costume gimmicks (shredded clothes but no shredded flesh) and "moulage" (practical gore effects), and even a periphery of onlooker actors and police who acted as guards should any legit healthcare workers try to assist.

It's a tedious and long piece that I saw on YouTube ages ago and I hope someone edits it and cuts it down into something more accessible for common folks. Same with the Sandy Hook thing. With some spit, gloss, and polish showmanship too for those who don't know how to watch anything else.

It's been a while so I don't recall the details of the Boston thing well. One guy was killed, allegedly driven over by his brother, yet looks more like he was mysteriously abused. Also, he has a beard and didn't - which is it? Their uncle worked for the CIA. Boston rolled over for Marshal Law and the brother was allegedly found hiding in a boat but that story gets weird on analysis too. The brother was tried and the mother kept saying that wasn't her son. No photos of the trial, just court illustrations. Maybe they had him tranquilized up like the trial of the 2012 Joker Aurora cinema shooter (rather than the multiple SWAT guys witnessed).

If not in jail, I suspect he's now one of those balaclava guys touring the middle East waving a black flag, with Timothy McVeigh. This is pure almost baseless speculation on my part.

"The Boston Unbombing 2016 Documentary (BANNED)" (2019-01-19) by Mr Stosh on YouTube - CENSORED OFF VIMEO and likely YouTube soon, again by JasonCarswell in DownTheMemoryHole

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I believed the bombing was legit until a few months ago, when I saw a video with Ole that described the reality. There is an epidemic of fake crisis happening.

Does anyone know if the trial of that kid was real? It reminds me of the Sirhan Sirhan patsy.
Except for Chechen instead of Palestinian.

"The Boston Unbombing 2016 Documentary (BANNED)" (2019-01-19) by Mr Stosh on YouTube - CENSORED OFF VIMEO and likely YouTube soon, again by JasonCarswell in DownTheMemoryHole

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Peculiar editing: "Newly-released video of Boston Marathon bombing" CNN (2015-03-09) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voJ_A_4GJvI

So dramatic.

"The Boston Unbombing 2016 Documentary (BANNED)" (2019-01-19) by Mr Stosh on YouTube - CENSORED OFF VIMEO and likely YouTube soon, again by JasonCarswell in DownTheMemoryHole

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A quick search proves it used to be on Vimeo. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=The+Boston+Unbombing

Also of note:

I was alerted to this via a WikiSpooks correspondence and I told Kay to contact you here on SaidIt to see if anyone can help.


" There is the documentary "The Boston Unbombing" which to me conclusively proves that the famous victim Jeff Baumann lay more than five minutes on the ground before being transported to the tent in a wheelchair, which is totally no go with a leg missing. The maker did this with videos from the day that had the clock from the finish line in the frame. There is so much more that is captured, like EMTs watching on while the victims are attended to by the bystanders. An obese women going into a building being dragged out soon after from another women to stand again in a place where she is blocking camera view.

I will adjust the article at some point in that direction, but at any rate one will have to watch the video evidence to get the point.

Youtube keeps deleting, copys on Vimeo are degraded in resolution and the half HD copy on archive.org is 3,5 GB I think due to bad encoding. My half HD copy is 1,4 GB, might be the max resolution ever published.

You asked for documents but in this case there is this video that I would consider "evidence" that is worth preserving and only the Jeff Baumann part is easily 45min of a 3 hour documentary. Is there any interest on your part to look for a solution for videos? That would be very valuable imo. Was looking at vk.ru for HD videos, but not decided where to put it yet.

Content is all, the speed was a problem somewhere in the past but very ok now. "


List of Confirmed Conspiracies - locc - /r/conspiracy by d3rr in DownTheMemoryHole

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I have been researching a scam, and the Wayback Machine has been scrubbed of almost all evidence regarding it. If you click the links on the Operation Dormouse entry from OPs list you will see all of them are dead--but one redirects to a page entitled "wayback machine can't be trusted" that constantly reloads so it's hard to read. I'll try to capture it in a mo.

Otherwise here are a couple of links: https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2018/05/29/wayback-machine-unarchives-spying-website/

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/nekzzq/wayback-machine-deleting-evidence-flexispy

Here is the page I refered to above:

https://web.archive.org/web/20170221222316/https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3yf75y/you_cannot_trust_thewaybackmachine_archiveorg/?ref=search_posts

List of Confirmed Conspiracies - locc - /r/conspiracy by d3rr in DownTheMemoryHole

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That would be the nice thing about something like ipfs

List of Confirmed Conspiracies - locc - /r/conspiracy by d3rr in DownTheMemoryHole

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If you could find a write up about that, it would be super interesting. It is sketchy how pretty much everyone trusts them, it's a single point of failure.

List of Confirmed Conspiracies - locc - /r/conspiracy by d3rr in DownTheMemoryHole

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As a side note, it's sick how much stuff gets scrubbed from the Wayback Machine.

List of Confirmed Conspiracies - locc - /r/conspiracy by d3rr in DownTheMemoryHole

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It was the finest of all wiki pages until someone claimed copyright ownership and demanded that it be taken down.

The replacement list is cool too: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/wiki/lopc

Guns & Butter: The Vocabulary of Economic Deception by Tom_Bombadil in DownTheMemoryHole

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The tragedy is that there classical economic thought isn't even taught in universitys.
Modern economics ignores the basic principles that allowed the free market to develop present for every member of the community.
Today students no longer lean the basics. Back fees and interest are both considered profit for the economy, rather than a tax.

Edit: Great point, by the way! :-)

Guns & Butter: The Vocabulary of Economic Deception by Tom_Bombadil in DownTheMemoryHole

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Wow, this guy is so clear. I'm so glad that he is addressing the misappropriation of language, as it's so rampant now, along with its cousins regulatory capture, dog-whistling, and whatever you call all those agencies and NGOs that do the opposite of what they are named.

Guns & Butter: The Vocabulary of Economic Deception by Tom_Bombadil in DownTheMemoryHole

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I've got to pay... The DEATH GRIP!!!.

Edit: Great comment, by the way! :-)

Guns & Butter: The Vocabulary of Economic Deception by Tom_Bombadil in DownTheMemoryHole

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The man touches on something that's long been on my mind; through languages, and barriers there to, they can more easily manipulate. An example... Mortgage.. It's a word not used from what I know in Spanish, and most romantic languages. In Spanish, they call them Hipotecas. I'm not sure what the root meaning of that is, but hey, I do know that a "Mort" is Death, and "gage" is grip; so Latin base for Mortgage-DEATH GRIP.
Go figure they don't use that verbiage in Spanish!