Elon Musk: "Twitter was simply an arm of the government"

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-11-01T22:42:52+00:00

Musk has no idea what the far left looks like.

Top Tip: It doesn't look like Biden.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-10-26T21:32:50+00:00

As my link said, it does.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-10-24T21:36:24+00:00

Oh, dear....

You won't understand it, but jeezus, you are just not getting this are you?

A robbery can never be a war crime. It isn't a war, see?

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-10-24T21:31:24+00:00

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-10-24T21:30:19+00:00

There have been several videos floating around that show quite clearly that Hamas rockets do not make that sound, especially Hamas rocket fragments. The only thing that makes that noise is a missile hitting its target full force. Again, there are videos showing that some Israeli rockets make that exact sound.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-10-23T13:46:33+00:00

You seem to have drunk all the Kool-Aid.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-10-23T13:45:42+00:00

This isn't a film. A bank robbery can never be judged to be a war crime.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-10-23T13:42:13+00:00

A broken rocket falling from the sky does not make that screeching noise as it arrives. A JDAM does.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-10-23T13:40:03+00:00

Go fuck yourself, Nazi.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-10-21T22:17:59+00:00

I hate lots of things. Nazis just happen to be at the top of the list. If you don't understand why, given that you are not 10 years old, I suspect you never will.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-10-21T22:16:06+00:00

Marine le Pen is far right. He father was a probable Nazi. I have no time for any of the others you have mentioned. The idea that they are Russian agents is laughable.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-10-21T22:14:40+00:00

You seem to be defending a war crime.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-10-21T22:13:48+00:00

The JDAM can be programmed to airburst.

Justin Bronk has said that what he has seen is not conclusive either way.

In the meantime the story has moved on, and analysis of the sound suggests very clearly that this is an IDF stake on the hospital

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-10-21T22:07:01+00:00

Maybe English isn't your first language. But there are at least two other organisations mentioned there.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-10-20T22:41:28+00:00

The IDF are terrorists by simple definition of terms. They cause terror for political gain. Fixed your schoolboy error.

Israel is demolishing civilian housing with the civilians still inside. The IDF use Palestinians as human shields.

"Israel are still doing roof knocks and SMS warnings to get out." LIE

https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-10-11-23/h_b213ec9e2882bc819f20cb6a96bcec92

And even if you were not lying through your teeth, 'roof knocking' isn't a good substitute for not targeting civilians

"Until the hostages are released and the rockets stop, Israel have a legitimate and lawful right to do this"

Under International law they do not have the right to target civilians or civilian infrastructure whatever Hamas is, or is not doing. I don't care if you accept this or not.

"Israel are acting in a way that demonstrates at least humanitarian concerns." Utter nonsense. You wouldn't know a humanitarian concern if you were slapped with one.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-10-20T22:31:13+00:00

Ukraine is crawling with Nazis. They are everywhere.

https://i.postimg.cc/254m3SM0/1vpq9bkcxgxa1.webp https://i.postimg.cc/hjcnmqqc/63f93a4985f5402e490b556e.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/854SBn1W/Screenshot-260.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/pL5PbZZb/Screenshot-321-Copy.jpg

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-10-20T22:18:52+00:00

https://www.channel4.com/news/human-rights-investigators-raise-new-questions-on-gaza-hospital-explosion

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-10-20T21:53:49+00:00

The major western powers are arming Nazis in Israel and in Ukraine. Their assessment that Hamas are terrorists is cover for their own acts of terror.

If you want to talk about terrorists going door to door to kill civilians, Israel is right there in front of you. Except, they don't just kick the door in - they bomb the entire building, with the civilans still inside.

Of course Israel is causing terror for political ends. That's the whole point of Israel - it's a settler state carved out of someone else's home. The only way it can grow is to terrorise more Palestinians and steal more Palestinian land.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-10-20T21:44:17+00:00

Would it? I don't think so. The fuel was in the cars which were directly below the blast.

Israel has a long history of attacking places serving as bomb shelters in Gaza. They also made a direct threat to bomb the hospital before they actually did bomb it.

The fact is - Israel deliberately targeted the church and they deliberately targeted the hospital.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-10-20T15:34:25+00:00

An Airburst missile exploding over a car cark full of civilians and cars would obviously create a fireball.

If you are looking for a visual plume of smoke and dust, then you need to look to Hamas's homemade rockets.

The sound is exactly the sound of an Israeli airstrike - there are plenty of other examples of the exact same noise being heard at other Israeli target sites.

Mick Mulroy is not an honest arbiter of this situation. He's an American tied into the US military and cannot be trusted to be tell the truth.

Despite Eric Oehlerich's claim, there is evidence of fragmentation marks in the area around the explosion.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-10-20T15:22:51+00:00

An airburst missile wouldn't leave much of a dimple in the surface of the car park. JDAM can be set to airburst.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-10-20T15:16:26+00:00

If the definition of 'terrorist' is that terrorists target civilians, then the IDF and the racist regime behind them are also terrorists.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-10-20T15:15:04+00:00

An Israeli airburst missile won't make a huge hole in a hospital car park full of civilians.

A church in Gaza full of civilians was targeted and hit by an Israeli missile.

Likely you are just another racist with a hard-on for dead Arabs

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-10-20T15:09:29+00:00

That would be illegal under international law. But as ever the US will turn a blind eye and prevent justice from being served.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-10-20T15:08:00+00:00

Not really, no.

You are just giving Israel a free pass.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-10-19T22:22:36+00:00

I just saw this on X -

https://twitter.com/narrative_hole/status/1715113343554404462

That sound is unmistakable. Israel bombed the hospital.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-09-25T13:38:35+00:00

Nazis are the new black.

Next year, we'll all be Nazis.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-09-13T21:27:33+00:00

That guy seems to have some sort of forehead prothesis. Can anyone confirm this?

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-28T22:11:32+00:00

Indeed. And I am running out of time to get them all.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-28T22:09:48+00:00

Quite honestly, I don't care if you die or not. I don't really care if the people who follow your advice die either. I think of it as Darwinism in action.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-28T13:43:30+00:00

The actual numbers disagree with you.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-27T22:30:17+00:00

There isn't much realistically you can do. You will get Covid at some point, and having had it, you will at some point get it again, and probably again after that.

Covid is a given now, a bit like the common cold. It isn't going away and whatever you do, you will get it.

The vaccine isn't going to change anything about the above, although it should at least reduce the severity of the disease.

Most governments have made the assessment that it isn't worth going all out to protect us from Covid. Government sponsored lock downs are unlikely, free mass vaccination is unlikely and free testing kits are a thing of the past. Most governments aren't even bothering to monitor the spread of new variants - a side effect of the end of mass testing.

You will get Covid. If not this one, maybe the next one, or the one after that.

Your best chance, were you to get very ill, is to get ill away from the peak of infections because that's the time the medical services are at their most stretched. You can either try and get it early, before any peak gets going by finding ill people and hanging out around them, or do social distancing and all the infection control stuff you can handle to keep yourself safe and hope to get it later, after the peak has passed.

I would suggest not worrying too much - unlike the early days, these later versions of Covid are not as dangerous. You will get Covid - that's a given. But it is very unlikely to kill you unless there are other factors in your health profile at play.

You can help other people by doing as much as possible to prevent you spreading it around. Wearing a mask, washing your hands regularly etc.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-27T22:12:06+00:00

The Covid vaccines work to reduce the severity of disease with various degrees of success.

The point about this new strain is that the success of the vaccines and the effectiveness of naturally acquired partial immunity is reduced.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-27T21:48:13+00:00

Reminds me of Ukraine and the Zelensky regime.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-25T16:22:20+00:00

This could happen.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-25T16:14:18+00:00

The EU might decide that it is in Ukraine's best interests if they round up all the male 'refugees' between the ages of 18 - 60 who are currently living in EU states, put them all on a boat, and send them back to Ukraine so they can fight for the regime instead of sitting around getting paid to do nothing here.

I might send a letter to that Nazi woman Vander Leyen (or whatever her name is) suggesting that, just in case they haven't thought of it yet.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-21T20:27:04+00:00

Sorry to hear this.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-14T20:13:15+00:00

I disagree. There is zero evidence that Hitler was a socialist, or that his party was. The only thing you people can point to as 'evidence' of Hitler's socialism is the 'national socialism' label, which was really more about selling the Nazis to the Germans than any actual socialist principles.

https://fullfact.org/online/nazis-socialists/

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-12T19:38:34+00:00

Hitler arresting and killing socialists means exactly that he wasn't a socialist. You are just talking rubbish.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-12T12:07:00+00:00

The problem is people like you shouting 'Hitler was a socialist' knowing full well that 99.99% of people understand socialism to be a Marxist concept.

You are basically lying then, when challenged, you try to weasel out of it by talking about 'different types of socialism', then you produce a 'different type of socialism' that literally no-one has heard of apart from a few politics and philosophy heads and a some very rare educated Nazis.

In any case, it is questionable whether Ficthe ever talked about anything that might be identified as socialism anyway - his economic view was capitalist in nature.

It's just nonsense to suggest that Nazism is the same as socialism as most people understand the terms. The only way you can make it work is to drag out some old dead guy and suggest that Nazis know who he is, when in fact most Nazis can't even read a newspaper, let alone read a book.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-political-science-review/article/abs/fichte-and-national-socialism/FFF5B2ACA448EA556B97EFB2A780120B

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-11T21:38:50+00:00

National Socialism is socialism.

No, it isn't.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-11T21:37:46+00:00

DAF wasn't a trade union. It was a Nazi device to take the place of trades unions.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-11T20:02:32+00:00

Doesn't make Hitler a socialist, or the Nazi party a socialist party. Hitler hated socialists and communists and trades unions. He had his goons murder thousands of them.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-10T21:49:31+00:00

You do know Hitler put socialists into the death camps along with the Poles, Roma and Jews, right?

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-10T14:16:19+00:00

If you think NATO soldiers are not active in Ukraine, I have a bridge to sell you.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1689624808869224448

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-10T09:27:07+00:00

LOL

Russia doesn't have any actual power, especially since they're getting their shit kicked in by a third world country half their size right now

Russia is essentially fighting NATO - and winning.

Your geo-political 'analysis' just gets more and more unhinged as you go on. I think you have probably had way more of the Kool-aid than is good for you.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-09T19:56:36+00:00

I would go that far. He's not bright, but I wouldn't say he is a retard.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-09T14:14:22+00:00

Saidit is where those whose thoughts are too wrong for Reddit come to moan into the void.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-09T14:08:54+00:00

How do you define 'Mentally ill'?

OK - you don't understand what a question is. I'll help you...

Now this symbol '?' means the words before it form what we call 'a question'. It's a sort of enquiry. The idea is that the person who wrote the words before the '?' is asking the question, and the question is going to be answered by someone other than the person asking the question. Do you do get that? It's a difficult concept I know, but I am sure if you try, you will understand it. There are two people, see? One asks the question and the other one tries to answer it.

Now, in the question, I used the word 'you'. That means you, not me. To answer the question successfully you need to address whether you understand the issue asked about. What I understand is outside the range of the question. The question is whether YOU understand it. That's why I made my comment a question addressed to YOU. See?

Now the subject of the question. This is important. The subject is 'Mental illness'. I won't go any further than that because I don't want to answer the question for you.

So, let's put that all together. I am asking YOU what YOU think Mental Illness is. See?

This is a bit tricky, and I can see where you went wrong. Have another go.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-09T13:27:16+00:00

How do you define 'Mentally ill'? How do you measure the degree of 'mental illness' a person might have? How do you measure the degree of danger a 'mentally ill' person might pose to society?

The reason I ask is because the President of the US (for example) is busy arming Nazis to fight Russia in the full knowledge that Russia is a nuclear armed state. At the same time he is provoking China, another nuclear state. I would suggest that allowing that geriatric old fool to do the stuff he is doing is the very definition of taking him seriously. And yet his actions have the potential to destroy everything we know and love.

Someone who thinks they are a Cat, is, to my mind less of an issue to the world than someone who thinks Russia and China won't react to being poked with a stick. I'd rather we treat that old fart for thought defects than cat-boy, who, let's face it, isn't a problem to anyone really.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-09T09:11:02+00:00

I agree with Darwin. You are the one talking gibberish about something you clearly don't understand.

No-one is saying everyone is the same. But the differences between them are on a spectrum of change of different properties. The idea that those difference equate to 'Race' is just nonsense.

In Scandinavia, the more intelligent survive while a naked savage who is borderline retarded can pick food off of a bush. There brains will be the same.

Race only exists in the minds of racists. You appear to be a racist.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-08T21:08:26+00:00

Here's hoping.

As long as America doesn't take the rest of us with it, I'm OK with this.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-08T21:07:09+00:00

Science =/= gaslighting.

It's that simple.

Race only exists in the minds of racists.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-07T20:19:38+00:00

There might be many reasons, but race isn't one of them, because race doesn't exist.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-07T20:17:18+00:00

It's just odd. I thought Biden was using US taxpayer money to give the regime as much ammo as they need. I don't understand why they would need to disguise it as sweets. Unless it is for these brave little soldiers -

https://files.catbox.moe/60ew9r.jpg

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-07T20:13:32+00:00

Fact is, race only exists in the minds of racists. See?

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-07T20:12:36+00:00

Yes - I'd go with that. Unfortunately, Reddit has an upper block limit of 1000. Once you have blocked the fist 1000 idiots you have to make choices about who's idiocy you can stomach.

I'm not sure what the block limit here is.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-06T22:10:46+00:00

Unreferenced images are an utterly useless means to show anything.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/article/race-genetics-science-africa

https://scienceandsociety.duke.edu/does-race-exist/

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1998/10/981008051724.htm

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-06T20:07:17+00:00

Your replies here will be full of absolutists who believe it is their God-given right to say whatever they want, even if what they want to say is to abuse you for simply existing.

Good luck - but I wouldn't expect anything other than abuse and the metaphorical shrugging of collective shoulders. These people don't care about you or anyone else. All they care about is their own abusive rights. In some ways these guys are no different to the people they suggest they despise - they are just looking at you from the other side of the digital mirror.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-06T16:41:19+00:00

Right - so now, according to you, freedom of speech can be curtailed, but that's OK if the law says it is OK?

I think you'll find I haven't 'threatening and advocating, violence, assaulting someone (punching them in the throat!) for expressing an opinion'.

But nice try.

Given past experience I would imagine your finger is smashing the report button right now. So bye.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-06T15:24:13+00:00

This was you just a few minutes ago -

I beg your forgiveness if I'm mistaken but i see a number of tells suggesting this entire discussion may not have been posted in good faith.

I called you out on it and said this -

If you think I am playing some sort of game, let's hear it

This is you now -

I'm positing a point contrary to your and your responses have included thinly veiled swipes at my intelligence which strikes me as an attempt to provoke a flame war.

I don't know what I have done to upset you, but really, you need to calm down.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-06T15:15:59+00:00

Just joined Twitter/X. We'll see what happens, next.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-06T15:13:28+00:00

I agree with you 100%. Best reply I have had, to be honest.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-06T15:12:09+00:00

From here, it looks like you haven't even considered the question, but instead you have got on your high horse to whine about the right of others to say what they fuck they want.

Let's try another approach...

If something can be thought, then it can be said.

I think I might shout 'bomb' in a busy theater. I thought it, and now I am going to say it, because that's perfectly fine. Sure, a few people might get trampled in the stampede to the door, but fuck 'em - that's not my problem. I was just using my right to free speech.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-06T15:05:28+00:00

It's either all okay, or none of it is

According to you. I disagree.

This is all irrelevant anyway

According to you. I disagree.

There are motherfuckers dying in both Ukraine and North Korea literally right now

Not really relevant.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-06T13:32:19+00:00

Your cultural glasses are at work here.

"Sickle cell disease is common in Africa, Spanish-speaking regions in South and Central America, parts of the Caribbean. Mediterranean countries (such as Greece, Turkey, and Italy), the Arabian Peninsula, and India, affecting people of all skin tones."

https://www.emedicinehealth.com/can_a_white_person_have_sickle_cell_anemia/article_em.htm

Outbreeding depression is a symptom of cultural malaise and doesn't have a biological cause.

The transplant stuff talks more about the similarity of people living in particular areas rather then race. It's not as simple as a black kidney can only work in a black body or vice versa.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-06T13:27:34+00:00

The words are important exactly because they provide a rationalisation for the crime, and other words such as 'antisemitism' have the power to prevent any examination of what is really going on there. I'm not saying the words are a crime, but I am saying that the failure to take the power of words seriously is a moral and intellectual failure because the words are often bound up in the actions some people take.

I'm not saying the words are the crime. But I am saying that failure to act appropriately on the words says something about a person.

If someone tells me face to face that Palestinians are sub-human (which I have been told on a couple of occasions by Zionists on line) they are going to get a punch in the throat. I won't be shrugging my shoulders and saying 'Well, you are entitled to that view' because that view is a view that needs to be dealt with with some action. I find it hard to understand why anyone would look at a situation where someone can say that another group are subhuman and decide 'Yeah, that's OK because free speech'.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-06T13:01:34+00:00

"this entire discussion may not have been posted in good faith" sounds a bit whiny, to be honest. If you think I am playing some sort of game, let's hear it, rather than you making shallow insinuations. BTW - your faux politeness is irritating.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-06T11:42:32+00:00

I can't make you educate yourself, but I would suggest you do some reading on the subject.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/race-is-a-social-construct-scientists-argue/

Race is a social construct viewed through a cultural lens. The only way you are going to be able to see past your cultural googles is to educate yourself.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-06T11:38:34+00:00

I don't mind someone thinking I am a cunt. The problem is that some people here think it is OK to abuse others, full stop. And they get away with it because 'it's just words' or 'its just an opinion'.

Like you, I don't want this place to turn into Reddit. But I don't really want to see it becoming a noxious and poisonous place that no-one can be bothered with either (apart from the small number like yourself who don't mind a bit of poison served with their social media experience), and its well on the way to becoming just that.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-06T11:27:13+00:00

The point is that Hitler was a nasty piece of work who made it very clear what he believed. And it turns out that what he believed was also believed by thousands, if not millions or even billions of other people. Hitler didn't kill the Jews - he wouldn't have had the time to manage the war if he spent his time killing millions of Jews, Roma, Poles, black people and socialists. And sure, the book he wrote didn't kill the Jews either - it's a book and doesn't have that capacity. But to pretend that his words had no part in the systematic murder of millions of people carried out by thousands of Germans and Ukrainians is, in my opinion, just missing the point.

Words have power. The words here on Saidit have little power because no-one is reading them. But the rot spreads, and pretending there is no problem is foolish.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-06T11:16:17+00:00

I could. But I understand they use some sort of fingerprinting process to remove the new accounts. I'm a bit fed up with doing it to be honest and I'm not sure I have the patience to make a new account and rebuild my block list only to get removed again in a few days/weeks

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-06T11:11:15+00:00

Science tells us that race is a mirage. It simply doesn't exist in any real biological way.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-06T11:10:17+00:00

Indeed. It wouldn't be acceptable, and any discussion would almost certainly lead to someone getting a ban for some trivial reason.

But - I'm not certain that having the freedom to discuss it here should/can be balanced against the freedom of an abuser to freely abuse anyone they care to abuse here. The idea that 'freedom of speech must mean the freedom of abusers to be abusive without sanction' is what I am arguing against.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-05T22:24:44+00:00

Yeah - I might have another go on Twitter. I was banned a few years ago for Israel wrong-think. Now it isn't quite the same place it was I might be able to dodge the ban hammer for a while.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-05T22:19:36+00:00

Thanks - I'll take a look at some of these. I have an account in Mastodon, but it's just too worthy for my liking...

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-05T22:13:39+00:00

I'm not sure what you are trying to say.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-05T22:12:54+00:00

Of course it is. For sure race doesn't exist biologically.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-05T22:12:05+00:00

LOL - you can't see the difference between 'someone having an opinion you don't like' and 'someone else calling you a cunt'? They are not the same thing.

It's a small community for sure. I suspect it will remain that way too.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-05T21:34:41+00:00

Interesting, and not great... I don't really understand the rationale behind just letting abusers and trolls run free of any consequences. I totally get the need to allow free speech - that's essential. But where's the value in allowing abuse to be given a free pass? Why would I want to be anywhere where someone can call me a stupid cunt and it's OK?

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-05T21:27:15+00:00

LOL - they banned me just three weeks ago for pointing out the widespread use of Nazi symbology in the Ukrainian military and Ukrainian society. They decided that me showing images of Ukrainian Nazis is 'promoting hate'. Yesterday they turned down my appeal. It's laughable.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-05T21:19:32+00:00

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-05T21:17:47+00:00

Again - I don't disagree with you. I've been banned from Reddit, Facebook and Twitter for holding the wrong opinions, so I totally get it. But to be honest, my first few days here haven't been a great experience. The racism of some just doesn't do it for me. I saw someone last week whining on about Jews not being human. It sucks, and I totally get that a lot of people will stick their nose in here, see something like that and walk away.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-05T20:59:35+00:00

Yes - I agree with the principle, and if Saidit wants to remain a one of those places where generally people don't want to bother with because of the repugnant speech, so it just works for those with strong stomachs, then that's all fine and dandy.

But I suspect the result with be a site which is basically irrelevant. There will be some good stuff here, but no-one will see it because (as I said originally) no-one wants to have to deal with hordes of children and bigots being abusive at them.

Death_By_Democracy · 2023-08-05T20:09:38+00:00

I learned the truth at seventeen

That love was meant for beauty queens

And high school girls with clear-skinned smiles

Who married young and then retired

The valentines I never knew

The Friday night charades of youth

Were spent on one more beautiful

At seventeen I learned the truth

And those of us with ravaged faces

Lacking in the social graces

Desperately remained at home

Inventing lovers on the phone

Who called to say, "Come dance with me"

And murmured vague obscenities

It isn't all it seems

At seventeen

A brown eyed girl in hand-me-downs

Whose name I never could pronounce

Said, "Pity, please, the ones who serve

They only get what they deserve"

And the rich-relationed hometown queen

Marries into what she needs

With a guarantee of company

And haven for the elderly

Remember those who win the game

Lose the love they sought to gain

In debentures of quality

And dubious integrity

Their small-town eyes will gape at you

In dull surprise when payment due

Exceeds accounts received

At seventeen

To those of us who knew the pain

Of valentines that never came

And those whose names were never called

When choosing sides for basketball

It was long ago and far away

The world was younger than today

When dreams were all they gave for free

To ugly duckling girls like me

We all play the game, and when we dare

To cheat ourselves at solitaire

Inventing lovers on the phone

Repenting other lives unknown

They call and say, "Come dance with me"

And murmur vague obscenities

At ugly girls like me

At seventeen

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