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[–]Death_By_Democracy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

National Socialism is socialism.

No, it isn't.

[–]8thmonitor 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Did you read my comment? I just explained this lol.

Yes, National Socialism rejects Marxist socialism. But it accepts Fichtean socialism. There are many different forms of socialism. Not just Marxist or other left-wing socialism. That means National Socialism is socialism.

[–]Death_By_Democracy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The problem is people like you shouting 'Hitler was a socialist' knowing full well that 99.99% of people understand socialism to be a Marxist concept.

You are basically lying then, when challenged, you try to weasel out of it by talking about 'different types of socialism', then you produce a 'different type of socialism' that literally no-one has heard of apart from a few politics and philosophy heads and a some very rare educated Nazis.

In any case, it is questionable whether Ficthe ever talked about anything that might be identified as socialism anyway - his economic view was capitalist in nature.

It's just nonsense to suggest that Nazism is the same as socialism as most people understand the terms. The only way you can make it work is to drag out some old dead guy and suggest that Nazis know who he is, when in fact most Nazis can't even read a newspaper, let alone read a book.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-political-science-review/article/abs/fichte-and-national-socialism/FFF5B2ACA448EA556B97EFB2A780120B

[–]8thmonitor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Anyone that claims Hitler was a socialist always mentions that Hitler was a non-Marxist socialist. We never lie.

If anything, the "Hitler wasn't socialist" people lie because they claim that Hitler wasn't a socialist because he killed socialists. That doesn't even make sense because left-wing socialists have killed other socialists. It proves there are so many different types of socialists. Hitler is one of many socialists.

[–]Death_By_Democracy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I disagree. There is zero evidence that Hitler was a socialist, or that his party was. The only thing you people can point to as 'evidence' of Hitler's socialism is the 'national socialism' label, which was really more about selling the Nazis to the Germans than any actual socialist principles.

https://fullfact.org/online/nazis-socialists/