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[–]Death_By_Democracy 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

The major western powers are arming Nazis in Israel and in Ukraine. Their assessment that Hamas are terrorists is cover for their own acts of terror.

If you want to talk about terrorists going door to door to kill civilians, Israel is right there in front of you. Except, they don't just kick the door in - they bomb the entire building, with the civilans still inside.

Of course Israel is causing terror for political ends. That's the whole point of Israel - it's a settler state carved out of someone else's home. The only way it can grow is to terrorise more Palestinians and steal more Palestinian land.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

The only Nazis in Ukraine are the Russian Volunteer Corps. They are aligned with Ukraine and participate in the raids on russia. They are not armed by the west, that's a straight up lie. Their membership is almost totally russian dissidents.

Hamas are terrorists by simple definition of terms. They cause terror for political gain. Israel do not. And therefore by the definition of terms in the English language, you'd need to find another descriptor to "terrorist".

Israel very clearly are working down a target list of terrorist locations, which are often built into civilian facilities as human shields for the terrorists.

Until the hostages are released and the rockets stop, Israel have a legitimate and lawful right to do this, and you'd have a hard time convincing me otherwise.

Israel are still doing roof knocks and SMS warnings to get out. And they're bombing the north strip which was supposed to be evacuated last week. Israel are acting in a way that demonstrates at least humanitarian concerns. If they wanted to wipe out Palestine, there would be a lot fewer Palestinians in the world.

[–]Death_By_Democracy 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

The IDF are terrorists by simple definition of terms. They cause terror for political gain. Fixed your schoolboy error.

Israel is demolishing civilian housing with the civilians still inside. The IDF use Palestinians as human shields.

"Israel are still doing roof knocks and SMS warnings to get out." LIE

https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-10-11-23/h_b213ec9e2882bc819f20cb6a96bcec92

And even if you were not lying through your teeth, 'roof knocking' isn't a good substitute for not targeting civilians

"Until the hostages are released and the rockets stop, Israel have a legitimate and lawful right to do this"

Under International law they do not have the right to target civilians or civilian infrastructure whatever Hamas is, or is not doing. I don't care if you accept this or not.

"Israel are acting in a way that demonstrates at least humanitarian concerns." Utter nonsense. You wouldn't know a humanitarian concern if you were slapped with one.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The CNN link is just going to the generic live blog. So I don't know what you're trying to prove but please quote the section you're looking at.

If a bank robber takes hostages inside a building

And fires rockets at the police out the windows of the building.

Then it's not the police's fault if the hostages get killed in return fire - it's the bank robber's.

It's literally not terrorism for the police to return fire on a building occupied by an active shooter.

It's just infantile. Terrorism is a well-defined phenomenon. And what Israel is doing is not that. Feel free to find another word, but terrorism is not it. Hamas are the terrorists. Israel are carrying out self defense operations that universal law says is legitimate.

I get it - you just want to see Israel not return fire when hamas rockets rain down on Israeli cities. I understand you might have personal reasons for wanting to see that happen. But that's not reality

[–]Death_By_Democracy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You seem to be defending a war crime.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Okay big brain, explain what you mean.

If a bank robber fires out of a building at the swat team.

And the swat team return fire, hitting a hostage.

Then who commited a war crime?

[–]Death_By_Democracy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This isn't a film. A bank robbery can never be judged to be a war crime.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Sigh not too well equipped in the IQ department, are you.

You told me I "seem to be defending a war crime". Now you're saying it "can never be...a war crime". At least get your retarded thoughts corralled so they face the same direction, before inflicting them on other people

[–]Death_By_Democracy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Oh, dear....

You won't understand it, but jeezus, you are just not getting this are you?

A robbery can never be a war crime. It isn't a war, see?

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wow the world must be so confusing to you.

Do you check behind to TV to figure out where all the little people are hiding

[–]Death_By_Democracy 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

[–]Mastermustard09 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Why do you hate nazis so much?

[–]Death_By_Democracy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I hate lots of things. Nazis just happen to be at the top of the list. If you don't understand why, given that you are not 10 years old, I suspect you never will.

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    [–]Death_By_Democracy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Go fuck yourself, Nazi.

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      [–]Death_By_Democracy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      bye

      [–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      It's not really a valid concern, I understand you have to virtue signal to your team

      But if you were truly against Nazis then you'd be complaining about Marine le Pen, La Liga party, Alternative fur Deutschland, Austrian Freedom Party, Aaron Banks, Geert Wilders, all the multiplex of true European Nazis

      All of whom are russian agents. So it's quite clear how you feel about Nazis. Your concerns are just performative virtue signalling

      [–]Death_By_Democracy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      Marine le Pen is far right. He father was a probable Nazi. I have no time for any of the others you have mentioned. The idea that they are Russian agents is laughable.

      [–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      They literally all are and we can demonstrate it

      have no time for any of the others you have mentioned

      That's why you're so ignorant. It's all true. If you really cared about the rise of Nazism then you might notice how they're all russian agents

      That's how we know you don't care

      https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2022/04/21/what-are-marine-le-pen-s-ties-to-vladimir-putin-s-russia_5981192_8.html

      https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/11/europe/investigation-league-salvini-russia-money-intl/index.html

      https://www.vindobona.org/article/fpo-russia-relations-after-a-year-of-war-in-ukraine

      https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jan/17/arron-banks-used-and-exploited-by-russia-court-hears

      [–]Death_By_Democracy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      You seem to have drunk all the Kool-Aid.

      [–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      You said "I have no time" to look at evidence

      Then when I show you evidence, you have to pretend I'm drugged or whatever.

      It's really simple bro.

      If you're going to pretend that you dislike Nazis and are up against Nazis. Then, you also have to pretend to be against Putin, who is the world leading supporter of Nazism.

      The simple way out of the paradox, out of the trap where you have to condemn daddy Putin, is to JUST STOP pretending you're against Nazism. Just stop doing that, and you won't keep getting caught in the trap