New Year, New Peak-Trans Thread by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT
[–]Catbug 17 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 3 fun - 2 years ago (0 children)
No endorsement from the mod, but all the comments were deemed acceptable, nothing removed, and they chose to not address it happening at all despite requests from other users. Apparently since he didn’t explicitly condone rape, defending the rights of a rapist is cool.
Mod did kindly let me know that if I’m triggered I could take a break from the sub 🙄 condescending prick.
"Her" favourite part of being a trans lesbian by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT
[–]Catbug 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun - 2 years ago (0 children)
It’s okay for me to creep because it makes me feel good. And that’s an acceptable excuse for a man to be a filthy pervert. Unbelievable.
This really isn't funny anymore: these people have severe dementia. by LeoneOkada in LGBDropTheT
[–]Catbug 13 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 5 fun - 2 years ago (0 children)
It’s depressing just how focussed on looks so many of these kids are becoming due to the trans cult. It must be agony constantly asking yourself ‘was the female looking? Do my hands look big?’
I wonder how insecure this boy would have ended up up he was never introduced to the garbage idea that he could just be a girl.
[–]Catbug 21 insightful - 6 fun21 insightful - 5 fun22 insightful - 5 fun22 insightful - 6 fun - 2 years ago* (0 children)
Gcdebatesqt mod (a tim) informed me that another user (also a tim) victim blaming and believing women are morally bankrupt if they hurt their rapist and don’t help them, is perfectly acceptable and does not even warrant a ‘hey that’s not cool’
It’s meant to be a place where women can freely speak and debate but of course some dude has to endorse misogyny. Allowing tra to mod was a mistake.
I’m posting about it everywhere. So disgusted with these two men and their glaring hate.
(Saidit) PEAK TRANS I: Please continue to share your stories!! by Irascible-harpy in GenderCritical
[–]Catbug 27 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 0 fun28 insightful - 0 fun28 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (0 children)
Just repeaked after an absolutely disgusting TIM told me women owe their rapists help if the rapist is hurt while you defend yourself and of course a TIM mod backed him up.
In the fuckin gcdebatesqt saidit.
I was informed that victim blaming is not breaking any rules or disrespectful enough to even address. Absolute disgrace.
QT: A question of ideology by loveSloane in GCdebatesQT
[–]Catbug 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (0 children)
Yup. Just male wants before female needs in a coat of progressive coloured paint.
Given the mods responses to me I’d recommend all women here move somewhere not moderated by males.
No point trying to salvage a community already overrun with misogyny. I’m going back to ovarit. GB gets to call people terfs and bigots and a man can tell me I’m amoral for how I act after being raped.
Can’t trust the particular mod who made this call to ever make a call in the interests of women after this, either. Here’s hoping we can find somewhere on the internet where it’a not men-first.
[–]Catbug 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (0 children)
Nothing much to be done apparently. Masks wasn’t out of line. Dunno if it’s just porcelains call or all the mods but yeah.
Either way, I’m not hanging out anywhere where men can say this sort of thing unchallenged or even supported.
No bans, apparently nothing masks said is out of line. Taking my leave from the community after mod decision.
Gods you’re a fantastic human. Thankyou.
Masks will never understand but I’m sure is jumping at the bit to call me and all other women alive or dead a bad person for some bizarre reason or other. Hopefully they never face a situation where it’s get violent or suffer violence cause they can’t morally defend themselves. Least I’m lucky and know I can fight for my life.
[–]Catbug 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (0 children)
It’s amazing. I am morally reprehensible apparently, because I broke my rapists nose and kicked him in the kidneys and ran away. What an amoral 15 year old girl I was! Getting myself help and not getting him help whilst in shock.
The fact that this extremely sick person is able to freely speak to survivors is horrifying. Gonna be leaving the sub for a bit until I find out if he’s banned or not.
Truly hurt by a man saying I wasn’t acting morally after my own rape.masks is Certainly acting exactly as masks believes men behave.
[–]Catbug 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (0 children)
Stop. Nobody is interested in your rape apologia and ensuing defense of it.
I don’t care if you don’t understand my morals. Leave me alone and take your rapist helping stance with you.
[–]Catbug 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (0 children)
I am not interested in your defense of the belief women owe their rapists assistance. Do not reply to me in the future.
I do not want to listen to or see your defenses for claiming a woman owes her rapist help.
Please cease contacting me for the rest of time.
[–]Catbug 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago* (0 children)
I asked the mods to take a look and let me know if I’m just being over zealous or picking on them. I’m genuinely frightened by the attitude and ideas tho. I’ve never asked for a ban or inquiry for something that was just annoying or gross either, so I reckon it’s the right call.
The ban evasions must be heaps to handle. Unpleasant work indeed.
EDIT: apparently this is not rape apology or even close. Leaving the community if that’s the case. Bye y’all!!
This isn’t just because I don’t like masks, I honestly think they need to be banned permanently for this level of rape apology/rapist support.
There’s the usual tra misogyny, but this is a whole other level of hating women.
Easily and gladly. That’s how I’d watch them die. Lmao imagine arguing this hard over the importance of saving your rapist before getting your own injuries tended to.
Instead of getting myself help, after being raped, you really believe the welfare of the rapist should be my first concern?
Transwomen are in danger by being in the same room as another male but a woman is perfectly safe sitting in the alley with the man who raped her, calling an ambulance and patching up his goddamn arm? What the fuck? What dimension are you from where this is a realistic scenario?
That is a sick idea and I sincerely hope you get immediate help.
Is the rapist expected to get me ice and bandages if I don’t stab him in self defense? Is he moral if he does this after RAPING me? According to your twisted dogma he is.
That’s so fucked up it requires a specialist to break down just how sick it is.
[–]Catbug 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (0 children)
DING DING DING
My silly woman brain forgot that as a woman I’m supposed to be sweet and nurturing. It’s probably just feminine instinct to make sure a rapist isn’t too hurt because you’ve stabbed them to make them stop.
You can’t just let the person who decided your life and body have no value die?! Maybe he was gonna call an ambo and hold your hand once he was finished shredding your anus and vagina apart and ejaculating in your eyes because you are an object to him. He’s a nice guy his life is valuable. :(
The life of the rapists who was raping me at knifepoint and planned to kill me once he was done is so valuable I should avoid seeking help for myself or protect myself further, and should instead provide first aid to the person who five minutes ago was going to gut me like a pig after R A P I N G M E.
Why is this rapists life so valuable that I should endanger mine? What makes this despicable man so much more important than the woman he has attacked?
[–]Catbug 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun - 2 years ago (0 children)
Oh yeah, there are like five transwomen and they are literally as helpless as kittens. Men line up to stomp on them if they even look at a bathroom door. It’s very important that every woman loses a bit of safety and assumes the role of protector for the extremely vulnerable starving kittens by lining up in front of the men.
If the kittens turn out to be tigers and maul those women it’s not a problem. It’s only like five tigers and they’re not as strong as wild tigers. They’re only biting because they are oppressed.
I was gonna say Masks is pretty extreme even for a tra. Like, yaniv levels of frightening statements.
But then I remember all the rape threats and death threats and pictures of wire wrapped baseball bats labelled terf beater and it seems pretty par for the course to hear a transwoman say ‘women should be helpful to their rapist’
Imo masks hates women virulently and projects that hatred by claiming every single male who isn’t masks is a dangerous monster that women must bear the beatings from to protect masks.
Men are all evil, women are nothing but shields who owe their rapists or abusers medical attention, only masks is a moral and safe person to be around.
[–]Catbug 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun - 2 years ago (0 children)
It’s okay to harm people as long as you make a show of slowing the bleeding.
Masks seems like they will never move on from “women owe it to me to be my shield from evil men” but “women are morally obliged to help men who harm them” is a new development. Wish I was surprised but misogyny always leads to more misogyny, doesn’t it?
Seriously, tras hand me some truly fantastic quotes for flairs. Feminism is for whales was top tier from GB. This new one from masks is -chefs kiss- perfect summary of 97% of all tra talking points.
You clearly have exactly no understanding of what it’s like to be in any of those scenarios then.
Lmao someone in the midst of psychosis, someone who is literally experiencing a different reality, or a terrified child experiencing flashbacks to extreme violence is morally failing by not providing assistance.
A woman is a moral failure if she does not get help for the man who was raping her.
Sure, IM the one with questionable morals here. I’m beyond disgusted.
Thanks for the new flair tho.
You can’t have a conversation about morality with any disagreement. That’s on you and your closed mind.
For the rest of us, morals are complex, nuanced, and thankfully not a black and white dogma so thick that strangers can be called totally amoral over a single daft scenario.
What if the person I stabbed was raping me?
Stabbing a box of puppies?
Slashing at a little old lady?
What if I’m a soldier? Or a severely abused child with CPTSD interpreting a threat to my life? What if I was on PCP? Or having a psychotic break?
For someone who says there is no further point to conversation you sure do bang on about your supposed moral superiority a lot. Notable that you once again ignore the parts of my comments where you can’t form an argument.
This is such a tired method of showing your poor faith and poor debate skills.
Lmao so stabbing someone isn’t amoral but not helping them is. You are too much.
You can’t tackle my ideology in any capacity so yet again resort to blaming me personally and making up bizarre moral quandaries to judge me by as if it’s relevant or actually reflective of who I am.
I find you fundamentally misogynistic but I’m sure you’ll argue that my findings aren’t allowed but you’re free to call me fundamentally amoral over one extremely foolish question.
Should you gain the ability to argue the things actually important or relevant is maybe care about your dismissal. As it stands, your dismissal is a very thin veil for your total lack of actual arguments in favour of a round about ad hominem. Learn to argue mate.
You just straight up ignore things like “I’m not American and can’t change your shit laws” and “ideology” dontcha?
Sorry all the rights isn’t recognised as a right? Can’t find it in a single charter.
Transwomen are men. Because men means nothing more than born male. What you choose to believe on top of that is your own business.
And no, if I stabbed someone, I’m not obliged to help them. If I’ve stabbed someone I’m in fact almost definitely not there to help them in any capacity because I’m stabbing them lmfao. What a stupid scenario to try and shame my morals
Where? I am arguing that whilst needing to be a seperate category from women, transwomen deserve and have the right to safety and community in third spaces. What about that infringes on your rights?
Name the right, even, instead of just crying the same presumably copy+pasted accusation.
Where am I taking an active role in hurting you? What do I do day to day, you magical clairvoyant?
When you create harm doesn’t it create a moral imperative to ameliorative it.
When you create harm doesn’t it create a moral imperative to ameliorative it.
When you create harm doesn’t it create a moral imperative to ameliorative it.
No? Morals aren’t even universal so that’s just silly. Also, if this is the case, what are you doing personally to ameliorate the harm done to women by males taking their spaces?
As you are well aware, it’s pointless to try and convince me that it is a woman’s role to protect a category of men. That sentiment is entirely misogynistic and always will be. Women can’t stop men from hurting us, how do you think we’re gonna magically fix shit for you without giving up our own protection?
It’s particularly bizarre to constantly accuse me of causing the state of affairs for transgender people in America. Like, I can’t even vote there but you expect me to fix shit for you there? I’m far FAR more concerned with the thousands of beaten women in my own country, thanks.
A particularly good point!
Terrifyingly, I have known about the same number of women throughout my life who have been assaulted, raped, battered, stalked, threatened, held financially hostage, and/or emotionally abused specifically because they were women.
And yet masks claims it is the responsibility of these women to make men behave more kindly to a subgroup of men. Un-fucking-believable.
So you can’t argue at all against the ideology and have to bring the discussion around to your only argument; all women must do X for a small group of men who have no power to protect themselves, despite the fact that women are harmed more often by men.
This refrain was tired when you constantly dragged any discussion to it when there was a subreddit. Bust something else out of the vault.
I am saying you should have protections under a different system. I’m not talking about implementing it. This is about the ideology, not the political and social barriers.
Men kill far more women than transwomen. Not women’s job to fix men for you. Been over it a thousand times.
The only thing you don’t get under my ideology is the title and shared spaces with women. Somehow this idea apparently strips you of rights but even in your arguments, it’s other males actually acting against your rights. If it’s not men’s job to educate men and it’s clearly not women’s job, who’s supposed to do it?
Once again, I’m not American,but am someone who voted for basically the exact protections I’ve described. I regularly purchase stock for my store from someone who donates part of that to transgender charities. Stop accusing me of not doing anything when I don’t vote in your countries elections and you’re 100% ignorant of me and my life.
Once again, this is about ideas, not current American politics or your personal shitty experiences. Ideas.
You asked some people on the internet, therefore the majority of people alive agree with you? You cannot tell me you think this is a sensible conclusion or even close to respectable data.
Honestly at this stage, dismiss away. You are not an expert, nor an influential individual, and you are clearly incapable of participating in unbiased, actual research of any kind.
You and men can make them. Talk to men instead of crying to women. Men are the problem.
Nowhere have I stated that it’s legal or socially acceptable to attack you or harass you. That’s the exact protection women have any way.
What more could you possibly ask for?
The point is that this is what should be in place, as opposed to allowing transwomen into any spaces belonging to women. It’s a better solution than erasing women’s rights and language.
It’s all the protections, plus legal protection against discrimination specifically for being trans. What more could possibly be asked for? It maintains the rights of transgender people and women.
Make them. This issue has been done to death with you. Recognising transwomen as male removes your protections how specifically? What about someone seeing a male as a male makes it suddenly impossible for that person to be protected by aforementioned legal protections?
And transwomen have absolutely zero business in spaces based on their gender. Their sex is male and their self perception should never allow them into spaces for female people.
My ideas provide protection for women’s spaces and women as a category, whilst still calling for legal protection from discrimination for men who is as women, plus advocates for spaces for those men to use safely.
Name the right being stripped away here. Full protections in place. The only thing you wouldn’t get is something you already don’t have, which is control over anyone else’s perception. Nobody can force others to see them as something they are not.
They would have all the rights other males have. Transwomen also have the option of protections and facilities for themselves, seperate from males who are not transwomen.
Homosexual men are men who need and can access protections despite them being simply men. Why is it different for men who perform femininity/identify as a woman/whatever? What about males being recognised as males makes it impossible for transwomen to be a group of males with certain potential vulnerabilities to other males?
I’m all for discrimination protection for transgender people on the basis of their being transgender. It shouldn’t be reason alone to fire someone, or reject them as a renter, or to deny healthcare that is needed.
Not seeing transwomen as females/women does not deny transwomen any rights. It’s nothing more or less than the statement. It does not mean transgender people should lose any rights.
I am not arguing for the stripping of anyone’s rights though.
I am arguing that I am not morally, legally, or in any other way obliged to force myself to see people a way I do not. IE, seeing males as women.
I am not obliged to view males the way you do and am not stripping anyone’s rights away by not doing so.
So non-adherence to your ideology about gender is just wrong?
You pathologically hate males so anyone who disagrees is objectively wrong?
Lmao no. Masks, no.
You might as well be saying we are objectively wrong about having immortal souls.
GC: I believe if features are sexed, and secondary sex characteristics are innate to a man or a woman, then sex is determined by secondary sex characteristics and the gender essentialism that tras believe in is true. If you disagree, then tell me your reasons by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT
[–]Catbug 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago* (0 children)
Which behaviours specifically?
How do they translate to an adult male saying he is a woman because dress go spinny?
What causes some infants to mimic the other sex?
Are you suggesting infants are aware of their sex from a neonatal stage?
This is less of a theory you have and more of an opening question. It answers nothing and raises a hundred other issues with the initial statement.
You are incorrect about sex.
It’s potential gamete production but this has been explained to you plenty of times before.
So transgender people, as babies, see members of the opposite sex and try to mimic them and this is supposedly related to fitness of the species. It doesn’t make sense. Why do some babies mimic traits and behaviours that are apparently sexed and others don’t?
Which behaviours are sexed in particular?
Off Topic Friday: Happy Holidays by worried19 in GCdebatesQT
Such a good Christmas with my families!! Hope everyone had as much fun as we did!
Spoilt absolutely rotten, five kids in the family unwrapping presents and having an absolute blast, nailed my gifts for my inlaws, everyone made a point to be positive and merry and it made everything great. Love my MIL endlessly for making Christmas something I look forward to instead of dreading. That woman is just incredible.
Deeply regretting drinking a half litre of rum plus wine and something with triple sec.
Super lucky to be somewhere that’s now covid free. It must be so hard to do the holidays isolated or even worse, sick or knowing a loved one is sick with covid.
Hope everyone’s had a safe and happy time. I know a lot of transgender people are rejected by family but I hope you’ve got someone who loves you to be with.
They aren’t fitness increasing, and sex is a true binary.
Can you name the third gamete?
if you can find a single description of a ‘woman gender identity’ in a man that isn’t pure sexism I might believe it’s not at least 80% of transgender people who are gender essentialist.
Except for all the tra who claim they are men because they dislike performing femininity or women because they enjoy performing femininity.
What’s not gender essentialism when a male person says they are a woman because of enjoying tea parties, skirts, shopping, and netball?
[–]Catbug 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun - 2 years ago (0 children)
Hey happy holidays, for real.
Maybe instead of accusing people of arguing things they don’t, actually read what’s being said to you without automatically being combative and dismissive.
[–]Catbug 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun - 2 years ago (0 children)
Nobody here has ever even insinuated that dimorphism means anything like that.
So now you agree that we are not gender essentialists and we don’t actually argue it?
Can you pick a lane lmao
Right, sexual dimorphism in humans, whilst not as obvious as being brightly coloured or 45x larger than the other sex, is males typically having larger bones, coarser body and/or facial hair, lack of breasts, a more narrow pelvis, etc and females having a higher fat distribution, a wider pelvis, lower muscle density, developed breasts etc.
This does not mean males cannot have a high fat distribution or that women cannot have a hairy back. It means that certain features are more typical to the respective sex.
How do they not fit?
It does not say women are always smooth and hairless and men are all as hairy as an ape. It means males typically have more, coarser body hair. That’s it.
These features do not define ones sex, they are dictated by ones sex. I’ve already explained what sex is and it is absolutely not bimodal. A man with breasts does not develop the ability to produce ova so his sex does not change.
[–]Catbug 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (0 children)
Gender essentialism is the idea that women are innately softer, more nurturing, prone to wanting prettiness etc. and that men are hard, brutish, and unemotional etc.
Recognising sexual dimorphism is not gender or biological essentialism. It’s not assigning any value to either trait, just describing what occurs in 99% of the population.
You’ve got some very confused ideas going on.
GC: Do you think saying things like "a man looks like/passes as a woman" or "a woman looks like/passes as a man" will lead to any issues? And what issues will they lead to? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT
[–]Catbug 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun - 2 years ago (0 children)
I can’t lose an argument when none has been made.
This isn’t the old sub. Make a proper argument or go. https://virtualspeech.com/blog/guide-to-debating
[–]Catbug 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (0 children)
Not knowing what anatomy you have does not make it less related to your sex.
Have you ever seen a pseudopenis? A pseudovagina? They do not look the same, feel the same, or function the same.
If I construct a very detailed facsimile of a penis with the pork roast currently in my oven, does it become a penis? What about if it looks and feels very convincing?
You misunderstand the gc stance on sex. Ones sex is the reproductive role they would potentially play. The body developed according to one of two possible plans barring a disorder of sexual development. Either to produce sperm or to produce ova. The actual production of either being removed due to injury/illness/age etc does not change the role they developed to play in procreation. So their sex clearly does not change.
You give nothing to debunk lol. Something some man said one time on a forum is not a debate to counter. It’s just silliness.
If you cannot form a debate it’s weird to post in a debate forum. You make no argument, but insist gc cannot argue because of not ‘debunking’ a conversation had on reddit. There’s nothing to answer. You might as well put up a contextless sound clip of The View or something.
Now, do you have a single actual point to make or just more garbage?
Oh yeah it’s maddening to hear how we never debate anyone only to repeatedly get asked stupid shit and have any thoughtful responses given ignored in favour of focussing on someone who said something mean somewhere.
We all know why they never answer questions though. Don’t understand them, or have no answer because their gotchas are based in a faith-model.
Maybe a post outlining what and how a debate functions, and why anecdotes or opinions are poor arguments will help tra put together something other than..whatever this thread is.
[–]Catbug 7 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 5 fun - 2 years ago (0 children)
Random foolish questions with zero effort or points presented by a brand new account with zero other post history seems to be the only tra interaction here. Imo it’s one or two users from the subreddit just cycling through sock puppet accounts, throwing shit at a wall, and taking screenshots for upvotes from gendercynical subreddit.
Gotta be the same couple of people behind the accounts cause it’s always the same brand of “someone somewhere said something please answer for them” or some stupidly simple post like “what’s a man if my great Aunty has a beard hmmm!? Sex is a spectrum dummies”
It’s so obviously disingenuous and cannot be coming from anyone older than 15.
[–]Catbug 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun - 2 years ago* (0 children)
What does this have to do with gc?
What’s with the questions about random people’s stupid comments?
Also- my boyfriends former friends drug dealer once said something about Asian women. Please, discuss this anecdote and how you feel about it as a non-radfem?
GC: Thoughts on xenogenders and neopronouns? Why should "male" and "female" not be defined to mean one's gender besides sex? And if gender identity is not a real thing, why do cis, trans, nonbinary, etc people exist who have an internal sense of whether they're male, female, both, or neither? by MissDimples in GCdebatesQT
You are so right.
I remember seeing a lot of stuff from tra about how black women are supposedly less feminine somehow than white and Asian women so that somehow meant men were also women.
I’d hazard a guess most aren’t doing it to be intentionally offensive or manipulative, and are grasping at straws to keep the dream legitimised. Too invested in the identity to think about who you might be hurting. Hell I’d say some of these men are running and clutching at straws so hard is because this is the first time they have ever really wanted something (womanhood however they imagine it) and don’t get it.
Am autistic and can confirm it’s absolutely got nothing to do with my sex other than a reluctance in the psych field to diagnose me because I was female.
Definitely no urge to invent a new gender just because I’m not great at certain things deemed ~for females~
Frankly it’s a little insulting for op to state that being on the spectrum means a woman is likely to require being called ze or xir or your majesty or something stupid like that.
Femaleness has nothing to do with feminineness inherently. It is something enforced on the majority of female people.
Male people do not receive this socialisation, and the claim that it is inherent reinforces the idea that female=pink!sparkles!maths hard:(
Males who naturally gravitate towards things deemed feminine are feminine men. Not women.
Personally, I don’t identify as female or as a woman. I identify as a craftswoman and artisan. I identify as an aunt and housewife and sister. My femaleness is merely a fact, like my blonde hair or loose ligaments. It’s unhealthy to have an identity largely or wholly rooted in ones propensity to obey or disobey gender norms enforced on their respective sex.
QT: If women can be male, wtf is a woman then? What term, if any, should we use to describe the female sex? by SnowAssMan in GCdebatesQT
Eh, according to the poster, it means less female. Gender didn’t even come into it.
This is a test created by TIMs for other prospective TIMs to test if they have real ladybrain. Test yourself and find out! by gendercritfem in GenderCritical
[–]Catbug 39 insightful - 6 fun39 insightful - 5 fun40 insightful - 5 fun40 insightful - 6 fun - 2 years ago (0 children)
Sooo, if you’re shit at maths or notice human faces you have mega lady brain but if you played outside and don’t notice loose threads on coats you’re a regular man. And tra still makes a surprised pikachu face every time they’re called out for the obsessive adherence to good old fashion gender norms
QT: a “what if” for you by loveSloane in GCdebatesQT
All sorts of bizarre hypothetical crap like, ~imagine that men can get a uterus stuck in them, are they a woman now?~
Women tho? Lots of women disagreeing with men/tra/TW? Unthinkable. Impossible. Nonsensical. Hurts the feelings so cannot be.
Just imagine all women did agree, it’s a hypothetical.
Why isn’t it acceptable?
QT/Transmed: Where does gender (identity and roles) come from? by DistantGlimmer in GCdebatesQT
So you’re just gonna waver between immature quips and your garbage opinions forever?
I weep for the state of people’s education.
[–]Catbug 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun - 2 years ago (0 children)
You don’t know about plant speggs? Or echidna oovatazoa? So many more options than male and female hahahaha
I love that you complain about me being immature and then post this in the same five minutes. Really showing that intellectual superiority there.
GC: Why are penises, testes, etc considered strictly male organs, and vaginas, uteruses, etc strictly female organs? What's wrong with the view that women have penises, etc too and can produce sperm, or that men have vaginas, uteruses, etc too and can get pregnant? by BubblyBrush in GCdebatesQT
You done yet?
Wrong but ok.
Mkay. Stay wrong.
Stop calling me cis.
Trans women are women according to an incorrect metric and nothing else. Women are adult human females. Nothing else.
Nobody makes men act like porn actresses or caricatures of women. They choose to do that based on their own misogynistic belief of what a woman is.
And you’re ignorant for saying ignorant things.
The potential comes from them developing either a male or female reproductive system, ding dong.
Nah, I’m a woman. I expect to be called such. So humans, unlike every other species that reproduces, don’t have discrete sex groups?
What is the third gamete? Do humans reproduce via sperm meeting egg or not?
Bearded women are still females, men with tits are still males. They don’t develop the potential to produce another gamete. You are straight up wrong about sex.
You never respond to half of what’s asked you.
So the baby develops gender dysphoria and it remains latent like schizophrenia?
How? How does this latent dysphoria interact with gendered socialisation?
Why does a child select the opposite sex group to emulate?
Why does this desire to emulate the behaviour of a group lead to such distress over genitals and secondary sexual characteristics?
Why do so many transwomen emulate not women but instead a cartoonishly sexualised idea of a woman?
But either way, in this scenario you’d call me less of a woman.
Humans develop to produce one of two possible gametes. Male or female. The spectrum is unnecessary, and overly complicated a very simple system for no purpose other than appeasing some hurt feelings.
I’m not mad at all. Bemused and foul-mouthed, but not angry ☺️
GC: What's with the gendered languages? Most people say words like "glamorous", "pretty", "cute", etc, can not be used to describe men because they are "feminine" adjectives, and insulting to men. Does any GC here believe reserving those mentioned adjectives for only women is misogynistic? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT
Hey gc please answer for the statements other people make is an insanely common thing here and the old subreddit.
[–]Catbug 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (0 children)
So if I lose my boobs to cancer I’m less woman? More male?
Why do you believe humans imprint?
How can someone imprint on women as a baby and become transgender at age 20? Why does the imprinting do nothing until then?
Don’t call women cis. We are not other to transwomen.
No, women do not behave in one single way quite obviously. Transwomen frequently behaving in a way that caricatures stereotypes and tropes labelled female isn’t the same thing as behaving like women.
They were born with a reproductive system that had one of two potentials. I’m not being ableist by correcting your wrong statements.
So why do basically all transwomen behave nothing like actual women?
Why do transgender people somehow skip gendered socialisation?
It’s nonsensical that some people imprint on entire groups of people for years whilst the rest of us don’t imprint like a wee baby chicken.
It doesn’t make sense for members of one sex group to randomly ‘imprint’ on a gaggle of women at any age, let alone suddenly at the age of six or seventeen.
It serves no purpose for some people to have evolved this imprinting thing and the rest of us to have not.
Really the entire premise just sounds bizarre.
[–]Catbug 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago* (0 children)
They did have the potential. The goddamn fetus was male or female before it was born and got a hysterectomy/vasectomy/cancer/old and that’s why they are either male or female. Are dense or deliberately obtuse?
Gynecomastica, whatever, when men grow tits because of a hormone imbalance.
It doesn’t make sense to have ever evolved by your own system.
Can you explain clearly?
The potential was there, disease, age, or deliberate interference remove the ability. The person still had the potential. 🙄 goddamn.
Gamete production is a sex trait. Gynomastica interferes with the silly graphs and charts tra try to pass off as the ~spectrum of sex~
Words don’t need to be gendered.
Men being insulted by compliments they deem girly isn’t the same as a widely held belief that words must be gendered. It’s just fragile men being fragile because their gendered view of the world is being slightly challenged.
Beautiful, pretty, courageous, strong, graceful, etc etc are not sexed terms. The gendered beliefs people have in them are ridiculous.
So transgender people see people of the opposite sex and they imprint onto them. Why does this happen? When does the imprinting occur? Why do other people not imprint at all?
They absolutely do. The potential to produce or to have produced one of two gametes is what determines a persons sex.
What other system is there? What goddamn gametes will they produce?
People who don’t produce gametes still fall into one of two possible sexually reproductive roles.
What is the third potential gamete and who is making it?
Like a duckling?
What’s the other gamete then?
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That you have based on your opinion...
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[–]Catbug 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (0 children)
Why is it ok to enforce those stereotypes if you say “I’m non binary :)”?
Why do the stereotypes become good if someone likes them?
[–]Catbug 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (0 children)
But it is and that’s half the problem people have with it.