Thoughts on the theory of LGB orientation and trauma

BiHorror · 2023-10-01T07:25:20+00:00

Alright, thanks! I'll look up on it.

BiHorror · 2023-10-01T07:24:44+00:00

What is the logic of this? lol

You know that, I know that. But, it was this logic among these people. Realistically, as you stated, if that was the case, it would be "causing" the opposite.

The only thing I can think of, is that they're trying to compare and use those pedo studies ("sexual abuse causes pedophilia"), but even that, still wouldn't make sense. Plus, severely fucked up.

BiHorror · 2023-10-01T07:13:08+00:00

I agree with this, and it is becoming an issue. Especially with the whole "(LGB)T are pedophiles" thing because of the whole drag story time, etc... Which being found out that supposedly some of the storytellers are offenders.

Acceptance rates seem to slowly be going down. Fortunately, I have seen some people differentiate between LGB and TQ+ when it comes to all this nonsense but still...

BiHorror · 2023-10-01T07:07:11+00:00

Good on them. Just hope that this doesn't lead to damn death and/or rape threats towards the girls (very ladylike™️).

BiHorror · 2023-10-01T07:01:07+00:00

Yikes. If that was the case, just by his existence, I became asexual.

BiHorror · 2023-08-09T22:57:45+00:00

I hate this new Twitter update. I wished they would just show the whole thread.

BiHorror · 2023-08-09T22:51:22+00:00

Despite not being 100% genetical, how much would it realistically be then? Too bad there aren’t many studies on it. But, considering why with homophobia, it would make sense. At least from the arguments I’ve read on against studying.

Two studies I can think of (and mostly brought up) are the twins, and brain differences.

BiHorror · 2023-08-09T22:47:53+00:00

Maybe I’m reading your comment wrong, but most of the studies were more focused on LG (which is why I wrote homophobia). The sexual abuse by same-sex would supposedly “cause” same sex attraction. Completely. Which was also what these types of people were always preaching in what “caused” homosexuality.

BiHorror · 2023-08-09T22:45:03+00:00

It wasn’t sexual abuse by the opposite sex. It was same sex abuse which would “cause” the same-sex attraction. These were the types of studies I kept seeing from these types of people who used it to preach that homophobia or how homosexuality “starts.”

BiHorror · 2023-08-09T22:42:09+00:00

True, I can agree with that. It’s just those studies, and when I encounter these people, they always bring them up.

BiHorror · 2023-08-09T07:50:25+00:00

So. Much. Delusion.

BiHorror · 2023-08-09T07:42:31+00:00

"Gender euphoria" ew 🤮

Kai advising her to make a space within the culture feels like it's just going to end as a 2.0 version of that one story. The one with the chick who went to gay orgy, and none of the men wanted anything to do with her. Of course, unless she tries to beat them into gross conversion/submission.

BiHorror · 2023-08-09T07:35:49+00:00

That's another thing I noticed too. But, more of others referring to feminine men as a such, regardless of sexual orientation. While barely doing the same with calling women butch or stud.

they find these gay communities on Reddit who give them all kinds of praise and up votes for posting thirst pics.

True. Seems to also the "quirky" people too, wanting to be included. With some LGB just going with it.

BiHorror · 2023-07-28T08:46:57+00:00

Yikes. I really wish Twitter didn't change it so you gotta need an account to view the rest of thread and replies. I wanna see the comments to this.

BiHorror · 2023-07-28T08:41:55+00:00

And they say tomboy erasure isn't real!

At most, all I could say is he's "trying." Play them at their own game. But, it seems the comments are the ones making most sense. As to what you're saying.

BiHorror · 2023-07-28T08:36:47+00:00

Poor wife needs to run for the hills. ASAP.

Also, the audacity of that one comment comparing their nonsense to cancer.

BiHorror · 2023-07-28T08:31:59+00:00

"Stop saying LGBTQ+ all the time" ... And who caused this exactly?

BiHorror · 2023-07-28T08:28:16+00:00

Ew. That's disgusting.

If he believed that in the past, then he most definitely would now. Especially, the new nonsense coming up (ex "MAPs").

BiHorror · 2023-07-28T08:19:18+00:00

True. Although, from what I've seen: most AAVE used today isn't really person specific, if the makes sense. You'll see people saying stuff like "bussing," but wouldn't dare call themselves brothers/sistas. Very black associated terms.

Kinda funny, because if someone non-black were to do that, others would've been calling them out like no tomorrow. The same people to turn around, and make justifications on why straight relationships can have "tops/bottoms".

BiHorror · 2023-07-28T08:12:17+00:00

I tried to explain that a straight woman can't be a top, but she wasn't having any of that.

Oh man, I had to deal with those types too. It's so interesting how they get offended when you tell them the origins behind the words, and how it doesn't include them. I had one guy try to use stone butch lesbians as a justification on why hetero relationships can have tops/bottoms...

I've seen the other terms being used too. Although, I can see some "reasoning" on why it can be used (tiny attempt of trying to see their logic). Like "spilling the tea" since it doesn't really specify people like tops/bottoms, or butch and femme. But, when they misuse it, and completely disort the meaning, it's an issue.

BiHorror · 2023-07-28T08:01:58+00:00

Not intended seems like a "cultural appropriation" argument ... Culture should be shared.

Sure, culture can be shared. But, I'm a woman. Which is why I wrote it wasn't intended for me. As it seems odd to describe myself/other women as "tops" when we don't have the package for it. I guess it could "work" for fellow lesians and FEB into toys.

Which is kinda funny, because I had an straight person try to use that as a justification on why hetero sex can have tops/bottoms (the existence of stone butch lesbians).

BiHorror · 2023-07-22T08:41:22+00:00

Same. Without trying to be disregarding, it feels like he's trying too hard? I don't know how to put it into words, but he sounds like he's the type of LGB who really wants acceptance from straight people imo. Idk why, I just get that feeling. So, when other gay men aren't putting up with that, rather go their own way, it knocks him out that mindset for a sec.

Where does he talk about his friends' feelings? I know he said he feel bad for them, but maybe I keep skipping it.

BiHorror · 2022-08-12T11:31:00+00:00

Lescels, Bicels, Gaycels, Trancels. What's next?

BiHorror · 2022-08-12T11:28:40+00:00

Also "biphobia" is just homophobia

Some of it. But gay men and lesbians aren't the same as bisexuals and vice versa. There'll be things that are different. Just like there's the "lesbophobia" term. Nothing wrong with having specific terms.

BiHorror · 2022-08-12T11:24:46+00:00

I'm confused... At least from what I'm assuming, what does the "Golden retriever" stereotype have to do with bisexuals? What does it have to do with lesbians?

BiHorror · 2022-08-12T11:17:10+00:00

Hey, on the topic of One Piece, do you know what's up with that one character the Ts kept saying were a "Trans woman"? Wore a mask, and had long black hair tied up. I think the name started with a Y.

BiHorror · 2022-08-12T11:13:45+00:00

For non-offending pedophiles, those who understand it is a mental illness that isn't okay, they should be able to get help.

The ones who try to normalize it and child molesters? They need to be locked up or removed.

BiHorror · 2022-08-12T11:11:29+00:00

So a 15 and below year olds who are sexually abused during their childhoods needs to be locked up and/or castrated? Becuase a mental illness they did not want but was forced on them becuase of trauma, they should be subjected to castration and being imprisoned? Instead of getting help?

Are you sure you're for child safeguarding? Becuase you seem to be forgetting that on important big detail of just what age this illness begins developing and being diagnosed.

BiHorror · 2022-08-12T11:06:21+00:00

Castration doesn't work. Also, you would be condemning minor pedophiles (diagnose starts at 14-15 years old) for mental illness they didn't want. That they developed from CSA during their childhood. Thus, putting the blame on them.

Also, wtf is up with your username?

BiHorror · 2022-08-12T10:58:01+00:00

You have also fallen for the lie that most paedophiles were abused as children. They often concoct a story of a bad childhood to get sympathy but compulsive liar do that.

There's literal studies on this. On why pedophilia happens and what causes it. With this being the one of the top ones due to their brain development differing compared to a child's who wouldn't have been abused.

BiHorror · 2022-08-12T10:50:27+00:00

Diagnosis starts at 14-15 years old (Most pedophiles themselves were also victims o CSA). You telling me we shouldn't help these kids then?

BiHorror · 2022-08-12T10:49:05+00:00

This is more exacerbated because most offending pedophiles were, themselves, molested as a child, which means inevitably to really stop pedos, you'll also have to give the child they molested the woodchipper as well

This, fucking thank you! I'm depised the mental illness but I understand that these people need help. I was groomed as a child, and this "face the wall" worries me too. Because, what people don't understand that most pedos were also CSA survivors themselves. So, what then? Are we just gonna start going after survivors? Regardless if they do gain the illness or not? How will that even work?

Not to mention, that the diagnosis age limit starts at 14 to 15 years old. Are we gonna make teengers (who, remember, were sexually abused as children and their brain developed this way because of the trauma) "face the wall?"

BiHorror · 2022-08-10T05:57:47+00:00

If trans weren't a thing, the scans they refer to would correctly be labeled as "GAY MEN'S brain scans," because if you look at the scans of gay men vs "straight" transwomen, they're very similar for a reason. The scans referring to gay men, it is shown that their brains are similar to straight women. But only in specific areas, and that still doesn't mean they have a "female" brain.

To them, "female brain" and "male brain" is just based on sex stereotypes and roles. To have a "female brain" usually refers to said stereotypes. Most women seen (and expected to be) are feminine, therefore it must be that feminine = female brain.

As for the actual brains, there are small differences between males and females, but again, small difference.

BiHorror · 2022-08-10T05:35:26+00:00

person that pretended to be a lesbian claim she was gay while being in an opposite sex relationship. She also pretended to be a music genre as well. Now she calls her pronouns she/they.

Sounds similar to my ex. Difference isnshe always called herself straight but was in lesbian relationship. Ended up transing.

BiHorror · 2022-08-10T05:23:59+00:00

Conservatives were doing it with conversion therapy and forced sex changes (ex Iran). Liberals are doing it with queer theory.

BiHorror · 2022-08-10T05:22:04+00:00

Then you are flushing our next generation down the toilet. Abortion is murder and Gays should oppose it. It’s not just murder, it’s fucking genocide. Want to stop unwanted pregnancies, ban heterosexuality.

There's a billion people on this planet. Abortion isn't going to cause extinction to the next generation. Abortion isn't murder nor genocide (even if it was: the mother's life is more important, she has an established identity in the world). Most gays are for Abortion, especially lesbians. You can't ban something that is the majority.

The vast majority of abortions are by heterosexual women who either wouldn’t go on the pill or whose boyfriends were too stupid to use condoms

Then I rather then have an abortion if desired. They're not responsible not to have children.

Furthermore, why don’t Gay babies have the right to life? Why should heterosexual women be allowed to continue to systematically abort our future?

You can't differentiate between a "gay/bi baby" or "straight baby". A fetus is a fetus.

BiHorror · 2022-08-10T05:11:29+00:00

People are slamming yaoi/BL in this thread, and while I mostly agree (it's a genre that is absolutely riddled with discrimination and hurtful themes, strong emphasis on dom/sub and gender roles) I STILL vastly prefer and relate to some yaoi more than I do western "queer" media, because at least it isn't woke.

Same. While it can be like that sometimes, I will choose it over western media when it comes to LGB. Although, I'm also willing to let it slide becuase it's fiction. I rather them draw/write that type of stuff in fiction.

BiHorror · 2022-08-10T05:05:19+00:00

Just like some women fetishize sexual abuse in fiction if the perpetrator is portrayed as an attractive chad, others fetishize abuse in gay fiction or just the homosexuality itself in general - as being something better and more “interesting” than hetero characters and people

I have seen a theory similar to this. That the large amount of abuse in BL/yaoi is essentially because they can get away with it. People won't lose their shit over a dude hitting another guy, but they would if it was a man hitting a woman. Therefore, to avoid the shit-storm, yaoi/BL fangirls use that. Notice how in yaoi, most of the submissive male characters are pretty feminine looking? Alongside having stereotypical female personality traits? That's why.

BiHorror · 2022-08-10T04:57:32+00:00

Call Me By Your Name by Andre Aciman - written by a pedo, praised by women fetishizing gays.

You got actual evidence? Alongside, majority of people who I seen liked the book were LGB(T) themselves. It won an award in gay fiction.

BiHorror · 2022-07-26T15:56:02+00:00

Why blame bisexuals on this? This is straight people. Especially straight people pretending to be bisexual for attention.

The most of the time opposite (or same) sex leaning bisexuals claim they're "gay" or "straight" is when they're forced to choose a side. The other time is when they're so leaning, they wouldn't know it until a certain scenario happens. Which does happen.

Edit: Never seen genuine opposite sex leaning bisexuals claim to be gay, unless it was a joke, I have seen them claimed to be straight. The same sex group, sure, but again due to being so far leaning, they didn't know. Only people I have seen do the "I'm straight but still call myself xyz!" are straight people. Especially straight women.

BiHorror · 2022-07-26T15:53:29+00:00

Spicy straights at it again. Although, should we be surprise by the article? She or he is also claiming other minority groups are getting covid more compared to others... It's almost like COVID doesn't care what you are, and if you're in a certain place at the wrong time, you're gonna get it.

BiHorror · 2022-07-26T15:49:48+00:00

"Gender" is a "social construct," but somehow there's genes for it in regards to sexual orientation. Shit makes no sense, but this is LGBTQ+ we're referring to.

Personally, if science wanted to go and try to search for the "gay gene"? Whatever. Sure, it could explain some things but it be just a waste of money and effort. When at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. The only thing I can see happening is people trying to genetic test to see if their baby is LGB or not. To me, that's similar to sex testing (note: yes I know preferences) but it shouldn't matter, a healthy baby is a healthy baby.

BiHorror · 2022-07-26T15:33:15+00:00

Eh, I choose both, but picking one would be abortion. Abortion, while it mostly affects straight women, it still helps lesbians and (same-sex leaning) bisexual women. Especially in cases of rape, accidents, questioning, and IUI/IVF (ex pregnancy ends up threatening the woman's life). Marriage? Depending on how one sees it, was a thing created for men to keep a hold on women. The only good that comes from marriage is the benefits provided.

BiHorror · 2022-07-26T15:27:43+00:00

What are you on about, mate? I'm saying that Japan should try to remain having their culture (which is conservative idea) but improve their human rights. You know, lighten up on their mistreatment. Not even only for LGB, but also women, and disabilities. Didn't think I need to explain that...

BiHorror · 2022-07-26T15:25:41+00:00

Realistically? Both have/are doing it (Depending where you are certainly depends). I dislike liberals, and what they done, but let's not act like conservatives are sunshine and rainbows.

BiHorror · 2022-07-26T15:22:09+00:00

Define that and give me examples.

I already gave you my personal definition. I stated that biphobia is the discrimination against bisexuality. I even used an example of mixed race discrimination. That is not exactly black/white, and that people experience specific things issues only related to them, and not the two groups they're from/similar to. Examples of biphobia is the mistreatment of bisexuals based on stereotypes (ex women are sluts, men are in denial gays, and they're cheaters) and outright inaccurate ideas (ex bisexuality doesn't exist).

When someone spits on you in the street, yeah. When someone online says "you're a slut" it isn't.

Depending who it is said towards, and the reasoning behind it can both be discriminatory... You do realize discrimination isn't only about action right? By that logic, if a black person is just called the n-word, it isn't racism. Just because white guy didn't beat them up, doesn't mean he isn't racist. He is still discriminatory.

Gay males experience more actual death and rape. The only death and rape threats or actual actions that would happen to a bisexual are due to their homosexual side. When has a homosexual ever threatened to kill or rape you for being bi? This is what I'm talking about with real discrimination and hate.

Mate, you're really trying to play Oppression Olympics here. I'm just stating that lesbians are seen to receive it more, and people are shown to acknowledge that. Doesn't mean it doesn't occur to gay men. Remove the sexual orientations, and this would just be the same "b-b-but men experience it too!!!!" scenario. Jesus, now I know what lesbians meant... Also, rape that is reported isn't done by homosexuals, but mostly straight men when it comes to bisexual (women). You really think a phobe is gonna differentiate between the two? They don't care to, as long as they know you're capable of same sex attraction, they'll attack. "Real discrimination or hate" this isn't a competition, and all these things are real forms of discrimination and hate.

Again, bihet isn't a real thing. Maybe if you're into Twitter, then sure. Because it is no different to the "homo/heteroflexible" crap or any other nonsense LGBTQ+ has coined. A bisexual is a bisexual. Regardless if they're more same or opposite sex leaning. They aren't straight, they aren't gay.

BiHorror · 2022-07-19T15:14:39+00:00

Getting a bit too personal, aren't we? I've had my reasons, and I'm not going to go that far into them. One of them was already subtly stated of dislike for secondary characteristics.

BiHorror · 2022-07-19T15:11:07+00:00

Such as what and what is biphobia? Some people being rude to a person? I'm sorry but I've never heard of a bisexual who was bullied to suicide for their bisexuality. Maybe from homophobic bullying. And I just really don't see rudeness as anywhere comparable to actual homophobia which involves violence and discrimination.

The discrimination towards bisexual people for being bisexual. Where such people do exist. I have, and when they don't commit suicide, they have negative mental health due to it.

many bisexuals experience a form of homophobia and call it "biphobia".

We know the difference. Mistreatment based on someone being bisexual isn't homophobia. They're not the same thing.

Can you give me an example of a bisexual being treated unfairly specifically for their bisexuality?

The ideas and attitudes some people will have towards bisexuals. Such as they're cheaters, promiscuous, attention seeking, etc. There's also the idea that people think bisexuality doesn't exist. That bisexual women are actually straight, and bisexual men are closeted gay men. That can't be classified as homophobia. Also, you do realize in that specific sect of my previous comment, I was referring to mixed race people right? If you're rude to someone based on something they can't control, race, sexual orientation, sex, etc. That is seen as discriminatory. Especially if you don't treat others, specifically those in the same group as you, the same way. That's unfair treatment.

real hate crimes, not just hurt feeling

The fact is most talked about is lesbians. Pretty sure giving rape and death threats towards lesbians, by transpeople, is a hate crime. Just because they weren't treated as horribly as gay men were in some societies, does not make it any less of a hate crime.

"radfem lesbians" aren't actually lesbians because radical feminists think lesbianism is two women rubbing their divine femininities together and you can choose to become a lesbian. The whole "women have a fluid sexuality" was specifically pushed by radical feminists because they wanted women to try to become lesbians

Wait, so those exclusively same sex attracted women I met who also shared RadFem interests/ideas weren't actually lesbians??? Regardless of how you feel about Radfems, sexual orientation doesn't work like that. There can be genuine lesbians in RadFem (there are), because it has to do with feminism. The idea of "women have fluid sexuality" is not pushed by women, it's pushed by men. The group you're referring to as trying to "make lesbians" are political lesbians. NOT radfems.

1% is still bisexual. They're bihets. I just keep seeing bisexuals who are strict about definitions when it comes to gay and lesbian suddenly decide that these particular bisexuals aren't also bisexual so they can put themselves in a different category from people who do bad things.

A spicy straight isn't bisexual. There is no such thing as "bihet." It has nothing to do with distancing ourselves from the minority of bad bisexuals. Some chick who kisses another girl in the actual scenario where she wants men's attention is not bisexual. She's a spicy straight.

BiHorror · 2022-07-19T14:42:01+00:00

Ah, never mind then. Are her parents the same line of thinking as the schools? Do they know what schools are teaching kids? Maybe they can swap her out towards the end.

BiHorror · 2022-07-19T14:36:14+00:00

more proof that Gay conservatives are the only Gays who actually are Gay.

Yeah, no. Being gay isn't about being conservative or liberal. It's just sexual affection. The only real gays there are is exclusively same sex attracted men (and women). Regardless of where they lean in ideas. Again, you could agrue about Gay marriage being "conservative" all you want but homosexuality doesn't work like that.

BiHorror · 2022-07-19T14:32:08+00:00

If that's what you believe, then sure. But, the definiton of biological sex isn't really conservative. It's scientific (science is not liberal or conservative).

BiHorror · 2022-07-12T05:20:41+00:00

Sheesh. Is she masculine? Maybe you could try pushing her towards the idea of GNC, instead of the "gender fluid" crap. That it's okay to be masculine or androgynous (being outside the sex stereotypes/roles), without having to call herself some weird gender ideology stuff.

BiHorror · 2022-07-12T04:57:09+00:00

Bisexuals don't face discrimination in access to mental health services. I'm not talking about people slightly disliking someone or being slightly rude to them. I'm talking about discrimination and violence.

It's not about access, it's having shit ton of mental health issues related to biphobia. If they are denied access, that would probably be due to them being out and the place being homophobic (since bisexuals are still same sex attracted).

Someone disliking you isn't oppression. Discrimination and violence are.

Mate, disliking someone over race is racism. Racism is oppression. It doesn't have to be just systemic oppression. It's also about unfair treatment.

This is interesting because it's well known among gays that lesbians are incredibly hateful towards them. I've known many lesbians like that, and there are countless examples online.

Well, we have seen the opposites. I've seen lesbians mistreated by gay men. For being women, and being lesbians. More than I've seen the opposite. As for the "boxer ceiling," I've seen but again... Lesbians have suffered way more when it comes to the treatment they faced from transpeople. When it's comes to the treatment by trans done to LGB, who do people talk most of being mistreated the most? Lesbians.

That isn't an origin. Why did they think that? It's because many heterosexual or 1% bi women being willing to engage with each other sexually for a man's entertainment. The fact that they often want to bring lesbians into this to use as human sextoys. Ask some lesbians if they have ever been pressured into an arrangement like this.

I have talked to lesbians before, and you're the only one to come into that conclusion. Most replies would be about heterosexual women or the whole idea that men were "100% on or off" and women "uncertain" (albeit this mainly came from some of RadFem lesbians). The only time bisexual women were brought up was the some who dated lesbians then left them for a man. But outside of this, it was the "spicy straights" (who don't call themselves bisexual, or considered bisexual. They call themselves straight becuase outside of that one particular scenario, they weren't sleeping with women). As for being pressured, not the lesbians I hung out with. Then again, I hung out with butch lesbians, it might have been due to that.

But the focus on heterosexual transsexuals misses the real problem, which is homosexuals being forced or coerced into transitioning because of homophobia

True ig.

BiHorror · 2022-07-12T04:33:14+00:00

Do better, Venmo me, flagellate yourself

Cackling. They always loved putting in links that went to giving them money.

BiHorror · 2022-07-11T18:06:03+00:00

Indifferent. Although, it did open the gates for the tumblr users to start invading other places with their absurd shit. At least, when tumblr was like it used to be, they were all in one place.

BiHorror · 2022-07-11T18:02:07+00:00

Yes. In the past, I remember only seeing it here and there... But now? It's like, it's everywhere. In the places where you least expect it!

BiHorror · 2022-07-11T17:50:37+00:00

I really don't think that being rejected for dating or sex is tantamount to "discrimination".

I didn't bring up dating or sex (you did), as there is more to it than just that. Like mental health. Bisexuals do experience some levels of homophobia, but they still have their own separate issues that they face regarding sexual orientation. It's similar to mixed race people, they may face racism of a minority group one of their parents may be, but there are people who dislike mix races in itself.

Some gay guy venting about his status compared to lesbians or other frustrations with lesbians is not discriminatory nor any kind of "phobic".

Pretty sure it's more than "just venting," it's more the way lesbians are treated by some gay men. I have seen, as well as heard from lesbians, from horrible treatment they received from some gay men. Just because they were lesbian. But again, if they choose to create a certain terms, they can. As I said before, I'm fine with groups making their own terminology, and using it.

Currently it really isn't even possible for gays to oppress lesbians, nor has it ever in the entire span of written human history been possible.

If someone is discriminatory, then they are. Regardless, if there's large history behind it or not.

So when the reverse happens, and straight TIFs insist that gays must secretly want them ("bc omg who wouldn't want me teehee?"), it should be called "gayophobia?" The two situations are clearly parallel

Lesbians have gotten it way worse than gay men. Does it happen to gay men? Yes. But lesbians have gotten the shorter end of the stick when it comes to transpeople. Gay men get to stand up to them more than lesbians, and not face as much as backlash as them. They got to keep their spaces, even when calling out transpeople, but lesbians got theirs stamped out. Just as lesbians were more likely to face death threats, rape threats, doxing, etc. Crap, there's even the whole gross "cotton ceiling" created just because they didn't want to sleep with transwomen.

The "women are fluid" myth came from men thinking women were more "fluid" and men not so much. Either way, agree to disagree.

BiHorror · 2022-07-11T17:28:52+00:00

Both. I didn't like the fact I had a V, and I very much wanted to remove the Bs. As for interests, I did hang out with males more than females and masculine interests outweighed the feminine interests.

BiHorror · 2022-07-11T17:25:44+00:00

Liberalism is also what caused all this other nonsensical stuff to occur as well. Plus, not all conservatives are Christian. Yes, most are in the US, but that shouldn't brand them all the same. That's why some are for same sex rights.

BiHorror · 2022-07-11T17:22:46+00:00

Oh, I know. I rather them be conservative too. It's what keeps their culture alive and well. I just call them anti-woke, since depending where you're from, even the "conservatives" are becoming more liberal despite their supposed beliefs.

Edit: I do wish they lightened up in terms of human rights and the likes.

BiHorror · 2022-07-10T12:37:40+00:00

Kinda long but yes, I do believe so. I don't really see it as a problem with having a term for it. Nor lesbophobia. Some specific issues occur to specific groups, and people would like a term for that. It kinda reminds me of "misygnoir," black women want a specific term that involves the struggles specific to them. Nothing wrong with that.

To me, when I think of biphobia, I think of things like bi erasure, bisexuality "not being a real sexuality," bisexual women are just "sluts" who want attention, bi men gay in denial, etc.

For example: if a homosexual person was genuinely being discriminatory towards bisexual person for being bisexual, would you call that homophobic? Not really... They're gay themselves, and the issue isn't homosexuality, it's bisexuality of the bi person. Therefore, it's biphobia.

The same if you were to swap out the labels, and replace it with... A gay man having issues with a lesbian (which I have seen before, and vice versa), he would be lesphobic. You can call him homophobic, but he's not being phobic towards ALL homosexuals/himself, but female homosexuals. Since if there's one other faulty ass idea to exist, it's: impossible for women to dislike dick. It's just not possible. Women are "fluid ones" in sexuality. They have got to like it! Even just a teeny little bit.

BiHorror · 2022-07-10T12:28:38+00:00

Thanks. I just got back from a (admittedly long 1 year) break from the sub... Only to come back and find it went private and needed to be invited in?

I read on what I could about what happened but still kinda confused about it. Why was that, from all discussions that have had happen on the sub in the past, the one to draw the line???

BiHorror · 2022-07-10T12:18:22+00:00

Thinking back on it, I'm not sure if it could be properly be considered "gender/sex dysphoria" or just "sexual orientation dysphoria". Maybe it was a mix of the two...

But, when I was younger, I was androgynous (still am), and experiencing same sex attraction. What didn't help was that I was also hanging around with the TRA crowd. Which eventually led to me having a breakdown and begging my mom that I wanted to transition. Why? Probably to make me be seen as a "straight man". That it would probably make my life "easier," and explain why I was so "different" to the other girls.

Turns out, I was just struggling with multiple things (mental & self image issues, confusion of sexuality, ADHD, etc.). Wasn't actually a "Trans man." Just a messed up kid =)

BiHorror · 2022-07-10T12:13:23+00:00

I didn't know "Pureflix" existed and thought you were referring to Netflix for whatever dumb reason. Was about to be like, "you really don't want that... They allowed Cuties to be on it" lol.

BiHorror · 2022-07-10T12:10:18+00:00

I mean... I can see someone being gay and conservative in some aspects. Just not when it comes to topics surrounding LG (for obv reasons). Plus, conservative doesn't mean the thing in all places. Of course, we're talking about the USA, I just wanted to point that out tho.

BiHorror · 2022-07-10T12:07:20+00:00

Oh, Japan... You do so good when it comes to being anti-woke/SJW, but so poorly in this and other topics. What about opposite sex marriages who don't want kids? Those who can't have kids? Are they not allowed to get married and have those other benefits too?

BiHorror · 2022-07-10T11:57:45+00:00

My personal definition? Femininity to me is someone who's "soft" (note: NOT in a bad way). They're gentle, nurturing, caring, etc. For masculinity, someone who's tough in one word. Someone who can take the lead.

This also involves appearance but I won't get into that.

I like feminine women. For men, I like masculine men. So both but for specific sexes? I mean, I could like masculine women, but there's a specific type of masculine that I like (which borders more onto androgynous if anything). Not necessarily into feminine men.

BiHorror · 2022-07-10T11:52:31+00:00

The argument that all gendered behavioral differences are learned is tired and false. Yes, it's a generalization, but on average, there are observable behavioral differences between males and females, even in early childhood.

This. This gets so tiring. I understand that some are doing this with good intent to remove stereotypes and all but... There is some truth to behavioral differences when it comes to sexes. You could literally find some of these patterns from the most known countries in the world, to the most excluded groups. You can't just sit here and really say that's all "learned" when even these isolated groups show those similar differences and how they react to it.

BiHorror · 2022-07-10T11:45:57+00:00

I would've said Janelle Monroe, especially since she was mentioned here to in the past... But, as of lately, she's been on the TRA/non-binary train (she claims she's non binary now...).

Edit: this was also a good question, because now that I think about, I actually couldn't think of any bisexual figures who get respect... Too bad no one else commented here.

BiHorror · 2022-07-10T11:40:39+00:00

Personally, I like it. Especially given the color meanings. Plus, it's certainly better than some of the newest flags (cough LGBT rainbow, trans, POC, AND intersex all put into ONE flag cough).

BiHorror · 2022-07-10T10:31:16+00:00

I've just been back from a 1 year break from that sub and so much has happened... Jeez. If you can (or even pm me), can you tell who specifically this is? I wanna come back, but I also want to stay away from that person too. I'm assuming it's Tumble, as said from another comment?

BiHorror · 2022-07-10T10:08:53+00:00

Late AF reply (just came back from a break from this site) but I didn't know she was bisexual... Either way, bisexual or not, that's straight up disgusting of her. Don't know why people would support her...

BiHorror · 2021-06-28T19:16:59+00:00

Let's not forget that gays and lesbians often have a hard time fitting in within their own communities and can be abused and treated with disdain by each other

I have seen that before and ffs, it can get ugly which is pretty fuckin' sad. I mean, didn't we have one user on the other sub (I believe he was a gay man? He got banned) who was pro LG but had a disdain towards bis... And any gays and lesbians who didn't agree with him. I remember him trashing on some lesbians because they dare use lesbophobia as a term and some other topics.

BiHorror · 2021-06-28T19:13:12+00:00

Yeah, I tried to keep that attitude too but sometimes it just gets so frustrating. I even took a break a while back (and now, which explains why I took like 2000 years to reply back so sorry ^{^').}

Another thing, I forgot to mention... if we are going to use dating history, then what about LGB who haven't dated at all? And don't plan to date? Are they actually asexuals then?

BiHorror · 2021-06-28T19:10:31+00:00

Eh, that's true. Although, I remember making a post similar about it once in LGBDropTheT and apparently some didn't like that so meh.

BiHorror · 2021-06-28T19:05:11+00:00

Super late reply: Sex and Gender were always used as synonyms to each other in the past. The only time it was "different" was gender was strictly used as grammar related. "Gender" to mean something other than sex (like sex roles/stereotypes which was used by 2nd wave feminism) was coined by John Money.

BiHorror · 2021-06-28T18:57:21+00:00

B), the whole concept of "Gender identity" came from a glorified ped0phile of all people

The same glorified ped0phile whose works Gender Critical also use... "Rules for thee but not for me" I guess. It's hypocritical tbh.

BiHorror · 2021-06-05T00:54:38+00:00

Good lord... I understand this completely. Like, what do you expect? The sexual orientation of the majority is HETEROSEXUAL. Of course, most bisexuals are going to be in opposite sex relationships, alongside most bisexuals are going to be leaning opposite because of that.

For this so called “let’s be allies against the big evil trans!” They (some LG, it’s not all of them obviously) sure love to throw bisexuals under the bus for what individuals do. But if you were bring some shit that they have done onto them? You’ll get struck with the “you homophobe!!!!” Real quick.

Edit: I forgot about that whole “tainted by dick” some twats do because... So, are you also going to be throwing the not “gold star” lesbians out of dating pool then? Because some of them have dated and even slept with men before they came out. The same goes for some gay men who had relationships, gotten married, and even children with women.

BiHorror · 2021-03-09T14:34:12+00:00

It's alright! But yeah, his works shouldn't be used but these people are very keen on using it while supposedly being "against" the shit he did.

BiHorror · 2021-03-09T14:30:37+00:00

Ah, I get you. I can definitely see where you're coming from. Especially when it then comes to the concepts of "hetero/homoflexibility" (although those people got their own diverse reasons. I made a post about it in the past and I remember someone saying people called themselves that because they didn't want to appropriate bisexuals' identity).

BiHorror · 2021-03-09T14:26:28+00:00

Apologies for late response: True but there are also a lot of other words that had negative conntations in the past (to their specific groups) but have been lifted from it. I think if we were remove that "baggage" from it, it would remove that "power" it holds. Honestly it wouldn't be that bad if it did go back to original meaning... Since it does work with said weirdos.

BiHorror · 2021-03-09T14:15:30+00:00

That's new? I'm pretty sure I have seen that before (prior to Super Straights).

BiHorror · 2021-03-09T14:14:36+00:00

That LGBTQ+ does not represent us. At all. They don't represent any LGB (except maybe the dumbasses who are all into that shit). Sexual orientation is based on sex. The crap that LGBTQ+ is putting LGB, especially lesbians, through. From the rape to death threats.

Unfortunately, I don't have any sources. At most, I got the source for that website which shows homosexuality and bisexuality being illegal in certain places compared to "transsexual/transgenderism."

BiHorror · 2021-03-09T14:09:14+00:00

Eh, the 1st bit (with sex and gender were synonymous) was right... Then it just went down hill after that. Mate would be a bisexual in denial or some weird fetishist... Which I'm honestly curious tho. Is it possible for there to be a homosexual version of GAMPs?

BiHorror · 2021-02-15T14:14:35+00:00

No problem!

BiHorror · 2021-02-15T14:14:12+00:00

Super late reply: I don't think so. Although, I did write John Money in my previous comment talking about how actual homophobes (like outside of tras) who are using him as ammo against lgb.

BiHorror · 2021-02-15T14:10:48+00:00

"Black" uh huh...

BiHorror · 2021-02-15T14:02:35+00:00

It's just a word. At this point, I don't see it as a "slur" anymore but just nonsense hurled around by tras. Wouldn't call it out either becuase I'm not into language policing.

BiHorror · 2021-01-27T07:27:11+00:00

Thanks. :>

BiHorror · 2021-01-27T07:25:45+00:00

Ah... Thanks for explaining. I can understand a bit more on why it's considered loaded now.

BiHorror · 2021-01-27T07:20:49+00:00

It baffles me how can you supposedly be against child abuse, esp to this extreme, but wanna continue using this man's work? You could literally use anyone else but no... You decided you wanted to go with this sicko's experiments. They don't see how this is making them (and others because I have seen some actual homophobes using John Money and associating him with LGB) look bad.

BiHorror · 2021-01-27T07:13:41+00:00

And majority of people don't operate like that. They see full or mixed black as still black. Biracial (Afro) are still mixed with black, therefore they'll be called black by most people (even black people themselves), esp if they're black passing. It's justified too in some cases.

BiHorror · 2021-01-27T07:02:16+00:00

I love you. You remind me of the normal people of minorities who believe discrimination is still discrimination. Unfortunately some of the groups I belong to still think "reverse" (ex "reverse racism" since I'm Afro-mixed) is a good thing. Always gotta call them out on it.

BiHorror · 2021-01-22T08:44:59+00:00

Ah... It's that whole supposedly "HRT changes your sexual orientation" thing huh? Only thing is, it's a straight female who thinks they're gay male now.

BiHorror · 2021-01-22T08:39:57+00:00

Why do they think everyone who disagrees with them is a "TERF"? Some people don't even like fuckin' RadFem either.

BiHorror · 2021-01-22T08:29:12+00:00

Just gonna repost what I said on the other sub:

Eh, I'm personally fine with both but you do have a point with:

Forty or fifty years ago, "marriage equality" would probably be taken to mean the legalization of interracial marriages. In another decade or two, it will probably be taken to mean the legalization of polygamous marriages

Although, I do think it depends on the context. If I'm reading this correctly, if we're on the discussion of LGB then I think it would be fine to say "marriage equality." But, if we were just talking about anything and brought up marriage equality, then it could be confusing since it could mean anything! Are we talking issues relating to same sex marriage? Polygamous marriage? So yeah. I think it depends. Especially if there's different groups going about marriage equality at the same time.

The other reason that I prefer "same-sex marriage" is that "marriage equality" is morally-laden. I generally don't care for morally-laden terminology, since it tends to unnecessarily hinder discussion between people who aren't like-minded.

Anyone willing to explaing this bit? I never thought that "marriage equality" was considered morally-laden.

Edit: words

BiHorror · 2021-01-22T08:26:07+00:00

"Present as a girl" somehow that manages to get under my skin so fucking deep. Because I would really like to know what these type of people would see me as for being androgynous and "presenting as a girl."

Either way, she can get still a man. She just doesn't want the men who would look her way.

BiHorror · 2021-01-22T08:22:54+00:00

They took James Barry as their icon. Although, I'm curious about the case surrounding that one. On Wikipedia, it said they struck down one for saying James might of just been intersex but apparently that too "cis bodied" (paraphrasing).

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