why is this forum so dead?

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[–]Retardation_station 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (16 children)

Beause there are a dozen reddit clones. Also, you're comparing this place to reddit, of course it's going to be comparatively dead.

Frankly, the reddit clones don't really grow organically because they tend to be a reaction to something the mothership did. Think about it. Reddit started out as any website does, but slowly grew new subs like branches on a tree. Mods could be considered overzealous gardners in this scenario.

Most of the clones were based around a single banned sub and people are just tacking on the same reddit subs they had but without the userbase to support them.

But then you have T_D at .win

I'd have to write a book.

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    [–]Retardation_station 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

    Of course they didn't delete that comment. It toes the reddit party line.

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      [–]Retardation_station 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

      I honestly don't think anyone should be censored. The only way to test an idea is to allow anyone to attack it. If the idea is still standing afterwards, then it's probably a good one.

      [–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      ^

      [–]NodeThis is my flair. There are many like it, but this one is mine. 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

      I was there from 2005 - 2015. I left after they went full leftard censorship in 2015.

      Sometimes look in at links to subs like GTA 5, and other games. I'm not going to go to reddit, but am not averse to clicking on the occasional link to something interesting.

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        [–]NodeThis is my flair. There are many like it, but this one is mine. 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

        As I remember, the reddit admins removed and replaced the mods with their own picks at one point.

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          [–]NodeThis is my flair. There are many like it, but this one is mine. 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          The 'well paid' part sounds questionable, but I'm sure there's tons of money going into internet shilling, from both private and government sources.

          [–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          I am shadow banned in every sub on it

          Got some examples of posts you made that were shadow banned? Plenty of subs there that don't ban people.

          [–]DiveBarDiva 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

          I found out about this site when people were talking about how SuperStraight was gonna get banned. There were 17k towards the end and people were talking about coming here and one other Reddit clone.. ruqqus I think or something like that. The sad part is that censorship works in a way. The SuperStraight saiddit has pretty much died. I’m on LGB drop the T which is still going but it’s been at around 2k members ever since I joined. You need the network effect to have a robust platform. Tell people to use the site if you enjoy using it. Tell the creators to develop an app to make using it easier for more people. Post things so we have stuff to interact with.

          [–]Retardation_station 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

          My only objection is that I've found on virtually every clone censorship is still a problem. Powermods are still a problem. Elitist admins and their dickriders are still a problem. Brigading and doxxing are still problems.

          It's just the nature of humanity I guess? Even the most mundane and marginal amount of power turns certain types of people into fucking monsters.

          I find a good rule of thumb is that you should NEVER give power to someone who asks for it. Anyone asking for it wants to abuse it.

          [–]mahavishnunj 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          censorship is still a problem. Powermods are still a problem.

          so true. i thought this place would be different. its just as bad.

          [–]passionflounderPaper tiger 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

          The track record of servers shutting down is a disincentive for me to participate very much.

          [–][deleted]  (9 children)

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            [–]NodeThis is my flair. There are many like it, but this one is mine. 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            Yes, that and a really poor admin choice is why a large percent of the user base has departed, or minimized interactions. The banning of active users for no valid reason just accelerated the trend.

            What makes it even more annoying is that saidit is still the best 'reddit clone' on the market, so it's not like people are wanting to leave.

            [–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

            We're working on solutions that remedy all the critical issues we can think of. The smaller issues and limitations all certainly add up, so actually leaving the unstable SaidIt for an decentralized forum with inferior features may not actually be more appealing unless there's some kind of permanent SaidIt failure or Lemmy/Lenny gets more features. We're also working on other platforms too.

            We have a complete SaidIt backup and are aiming to mirror all SaidIt content on the Lemmy/Lenny platform. We also aim to have MUCH better search capabilities and a MediaWiki. Unfortunately, users will have to create new alias accounts, so editing their old content won't be possible.

            [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

            lemmy isn't well done. a lot of features actually don't work the way you'd expect them to. that is why i am here way more.

            [–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

            I won't argue that. We don't aim to compete with SaidIt, we simply want to decentralize, backup the SaidIt database, and be the lifeboats if SaidIt does go down. Hopefully in time people can improve Lenny/Lemmy to be a better platform.

            [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

            Is there a fancy project you ain't on already?

            [–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

            You can bitch and moan, wish and hope, or you can make it happen. There's a lot of shit going on in this world and we know it's going to get MUCH MUCH WORSE. I'm doing what I can now, in the best way that I know how, rather than waiting for someone else to do it or waiting until it's too late and we're out of time and options.

            I'm not doing it alone. We need all the help we can get.

            You can help too.

            [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

            Surely i could do more. But first i gotta solve personal matters which won't resolve before this winter and then i gotta get a stable internet connection again.

            Now i can't even look at this site most of the times because i ditched my sim-cards, my cable-internet and left the classical banking system.

            Since i intend to stick to these decisions it won't get easier but surely i will make more time. In winter there is always more free-time in my schedule.

            [–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

            When you resolve those personal matters other personal matters will spring up. Life keeps on happening.

            I understand hard times and scrape by every month, and now shrinkflation is making it all much worse.

            Yet I'm more committed than ever to making solutions while we still can.

            Keep the sim-cards. Collect them all. Create a Sim-Cards Trading Club. Mail them to other folks like me. I'll use it for a while and send it on. That should confuse TPTB a little.

            [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            I really appreciate this comment.

            [–]thefirststone 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

            Zombie Lives Matter

            [–]Questionable 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

            Did someone say Question!???

            I think it's because your mom sat on it. With her big old butt. 😐

            Were there any other Questions!!!

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              [–]Questionable 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

              Alright.... I'm not quite sure that came out the way you meant it.

              [–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

              I like your mom's big butt plug. You know, the one with the sparkly heart-shaped ruby.

              [–]wecandobetter 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

              Hasn't hit the critical amount of usage. Most content is in opposition to reddit instead of anything more genuinely interesting. Recreating reddit is not easy.

              [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

              Stupid comments like 'Mom's big butt' is a major turn off as nobody smart will want to deal with that shittery. So your left with morons yelling into a room full of sickos. Sickos and morons yelling at each other!

              [–]Retardation_station 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

              You get the same shit at reddit. They just use bigger words and act like they're superior for it.

              [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

              I noticed they seem to use thesaurus type words and often use double meanings. They often throw in European politics into the American mix and confuse the two like either they are dumb or on purpose to muddy the waters.

              [–]Retardation_station 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

              It's to muddy the waters for sure. Also they tend to be pretty shitty at arguing in general, but that's what happens when you're shielded from any legitimate debate.

              [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

              I've noticed lately forums that used to be pretty easy going are now cracking down on the slightest offense. I got almost kicked from some Legend of Zelda forum for saying that some of the members can't seem to read and that's somehow 'baiting' yet I've seen worse get ignored. Is it cause I'm a newbie or is something bigger going on?

              A survivalist forum that used to be relaxing has last year announced major crack downs on violations no longer giving warnings and I got temp banned for asking why they suddenly take a stance where it was okay before. I am worried this is just the beginning. Time to start prepping and less consumer buying perhaps? This seems to be a bad time to invest in anything electronic due to censorship.

              [–]Retardation_station 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

              Maybe a bunch of people had some glow boys show up on their doorstep. Dunno, but you're right. It was all at once and suddenly. Seems somewhat coordinated.

              [–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

              Ooga booga

              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

              But possible. whithout ghislaine maxwell being able to buy it. also i don't believe in things as reaching a critical mass to grow "exponentially" .

              I'm way more comfortable with the natural way saidit is growing.

              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

              What do you mean buy it and critical mass? Your sentence is broken up there.

              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

              The main idea of 21st century capitalism and all these "new" markets imo is that you got to to reach a critical mass of market share to actually grow "profits" from a "business".

              Like microshit did with OSes in the 80ies e.g. but also Valve (Steam), facebash, apple, google and numerous other examples.

              Saidit surely has its phases of ups and downs but to me this seems way more natural in growth than all these other "companies".

              [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

              Your better off yelling into a padded room these days. In fact we need an internet insane asylum where you can digitally go insane and the rest of the web is separated. Those who are convicted of it have the ISP redirect to this 'insanity' version leaving prisons for only the most harden criminals.

              [–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

              "He's Only Mostly Dead" ~ Princess Bride

              Only Mostly Dead

              Summer time, lockdown relief, better things to do, prepping for Armageddon... take your pick.

              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

              Noooo not to fifty!!!! https://youtu.be/MprgRbwYlHU I don't know how to add blue highlight links like that.