I should be able to advocate my ideology.

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[–]zyxzevn🐈‍⬛ 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (44 children)

You are a Trojan Horse.
You can easily move to voat and actually have fans.
(note: there are just a few 100 people in the US wanting to promote this stuff)
So you are probably here to stop this website.

The ideology is forbidden in a major part of the world. It will cause black-listing of this site. And it will have consequences on hosting and such. And many legal consequences.

I don't think it is an ideology either, just like Antifa is not an ideology (nor is it anti-fascism). You can discuss some of your ideas on /s/debatealtright I think.

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 6 fun10 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 6 fun -  (3 children)

You can easily move to voat and actually have fans.

I don't want fans. Also, the NationalSocialism sub on voat is very inactive.

(note: there are just a few 100 people in the US wanting to promote this stuff)

Search up the American Nazi Party, American Freedom Party, National Vanguard, National Alliance, Traditionalist Workers Party, recently founded American Justice Party(not the leftist one), National Renaissance Party, Atomwaffen, NSLF, American Front, Vanguard America, Patriot Front, White Aryan Resistance, WUFENS(WUNS).

I mainly use anonymous imageboards for communication with people who share my ideology, and there are many of them(people). Many = Atleast half a million just from the US. In my part time I work in an organization that recruits members into [redacted], which is a classical National Socialist/Hitlerist party. I have also converted many antifa fags into ardent National Socialists. The party currently has 85000 members in 9 states and 20 cities

I don't think it is an ideology either, just like Antifa is not an ideology (nor is it anti-fascism). You can discuss some of your ideas on /s/debatealtright I think.
I don't think its an ideology either

W T F

[–]suckitreddit 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Okay, not taking any sides here, but you have to know that Saidit.net is using an SJW company to run the website. Saidit had to keep moving from company to company, and they censor content here. I mean, what the fuck? Fuck them. I'll never use them, but that's what it is.

[–]Chipit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This sounds like it was written by ADL or similar organization.

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 7 fun8 insightful - 6 fun9 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah of course, of course I'm an ADL agent here to kill saidit

*rubs hands together*
*haha goyim you'll never know*

[–]IRONICALLY_A_NAZI 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

You are beyond wrong.

Right wing nationalism, with traditional social policies, and strong social programs (National Socialism) is an extremely popular ideology, people just don't know that that is the name for what they believe.

saidit is a joke, if there's no free speech what is the point?

Voat and Pol are full of glowing faggots.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Right wing (what does this mean); let us mention National Socialism, which was used in the transcripts of the World Zionist Congress in the late 19th century.

Nationalism in this case = self-determination as a state; self-reliance, free-trade absent of interlocking industries with international finance and a working manufacturing and farming apparatus with good labor laws.

Socialism in this case = good social programs for the people secure within the borders, i.e., subsidies on homes and families who have children, laws protecting the environment, many public lands, etc.

National Socialism doesn't have to be Nazisim. One could take certain elements of Feder and create a working system without racial hygiene or eugenics and call it National Socialism.

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    [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    They learned history from John Wayne and Forest Gump.

    We want degeneracy and austerity. Globalism for all!

    But yes, I agree with you. What, however, determines the right and left axis? In what way were the Nazis or Mussoliniyists right-wing? I hear plenty of times, particularly from the John Birch Society that the Nazis were as left as you can get.

    [–]horatioherbert 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    If it's not an ideology what is it?

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It's obviously an evil satanic cult, never mind that its members denounce evil satanic degeneracy.

    [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    You can discuss some of your ideas on /s/debatealtright I think.

    For now at least... until they decide our speech is violence too.

    [–]IRONICALLY_A_NAZI 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Truth is violence to these scumfucks.

    [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Hey now, I'm every bit as much a National Socialist, YES A NAZI as he is. This is utterly unjustified, and it's putting saidit on my "highly suspicious" list.

    Free speech? Ha!

    [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (26 children)

    How can you be sure he's a trojan horse? I mean, if he is, then banning him is fine because his goal is subversion rather than discussion.

    But I would suggest you tread carefully, lest paranoia gets the better of the admins and everybody not following ever-narrowing definition of "anti extreme" ideology will be labeled a trojan horse, nazi, commie, or whatever.

    I'm a nazi. Nazis are not evil, they are GOOD. Jesus would be a nazi if he were alive. Talking about that, where's u/Jesus ? Hm... Did he leave because he saw where things are headed?

    [–]Jesus 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (25 children)

    No, Jesus was of no ism. Jesus helped all races and peoples and was a globalist. That is, God does not care about borders for all his people are brothers in Christ. Hitler was a positive Christian with Pagan beliefs. Nazisim is akin to the ideology of revisionist Zionism but both are diametrically opposed. There were, nevertheless, some amazing policies enacted by the Nazis that curtailed international finance.

    [–]asterias 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    That is, God does not care about borders

    I don't think God asks you to abolish your borders though.

    [–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    He doesn't. And that is where worldly globalism comes into play. The globalists and corporate internationalists, for the most part, are not of God, or they believe, at least some, that ridding of borders will bring about some utopian society of order and peace. This is the futurist thinking. Again, nations are not pro-God either.

    God has a plan. Like all empires, the US will fall.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

    If nations weren't important, God wouldn't have created them.

    [–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

    LOL

    God is another myth.

    The ruling class created nations and borders.

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    God is spirit. God is something we can not comprehend. Big bang theory, something out of nothing, and poof!!

    [–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

    I don't know what you're trying to say. F God and F the Big Bang.

    We exist, at this brief moment, on this small planet, at this size, small enough to be humble, big enough to be complex - and our consciousness (spirit?) is both too limited to know and understand everything much less what we can even perceive - including our own over-complex consciousnesses and their interactions. I can live with not knowing. Many people cannot. And many people make up and pass down stories to cover that up and provide comfort as well as weaponize it for social discipline-stability and/or power and control.

    My mind is eternally trapped within my body paradoxically. I don't need a soul or spirit to bridge between them. The two are real and more than enough to manage without complicating it with extra shit when we also have the diverse external world and all of its internal motivations to deal with.

    [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    We exist, at this brief moment, on this small planet, at this size, small enough to be humble, big enough to be complex - and our consciousness (spirit?)

    Literally what Yeshua preached.

    [–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Maybe I'm the next JC?

    But still. Fuck the "spirit" and the "soul" and over-complicating things with all this woo. My neighbour is always talking about "soul" (not religiously but spiritually), the one who fell, and it's beyond tedious and no longer comical. It's the noise of a feedback loop that interrupts everything.

    [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Well Talmudic rabbis think you have a lower soul than a cow. Soul is spirit, it is the potential goodness in everyone had they followed Christ or in my opinion the Father's teachingsof love.

    Most people don't read the new testament but if they did and thought about it all on a spiritual revolutionary perspective they might think differently about Christianity and what Jesus really wanted, which is lacking entirely in all religions. If you were to mix the action of Christ with the self-renouncement (minus the gold shrines of Buddhism and hinduism) of ego in Buddhism, then your following "The Way." Which means to be a disciple to truth in the present moment, always and to never, ever worry.

    [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    If nothing else, Yeshua's words are the truth and no other religion has spoken them in full.

    [–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I wouldn't go so far as to even say it's in full, otherwise there'd be no confusion. Both Jesus and Buddha, among others, taught great things - and people haven't learned not to corrupt them.

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    God didn't. This world is controlled by Satan. He is the prince of this world, that is why Yeshua refused Satan's temptation. Nations exist due to various factors but God is a globalist in that he cares about all of his brothers in all nations. I would help people of any race or color and preach the word of God to all peoples. That does not mean God is against nations or for them. Just that the worldly beliefs of people who say that God condones a nations actions or its people or bestows some sort of rights to this piece of land or that socialism is anti-Christ (it's not) or that capitalism is pro-Christ (it's not), is, in my opinion unscriptural. God and Yeshua are not of an ism.

    [–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    ^

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

    Pagan beliefs

    Some prominent officers had Pagan beliefs, Hitler called them all "silly" in Zweites Buch. Hitler himself didn't hold any Pagan beliefs.

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    http://www.renegadetribune.com/adolf-hitler-did-not-die-a-christian-man/

    http://www.renegadetribune.com/himmler-vs-hitler-christianity/

    The problem is most of Hitler's Table Talks about his Christian faith are fake.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Hitler was born a Catholic, and he died a Positive Christianity type of protestant. He didn't publicly express faith because he wanted the Reich to be secular, and for a state to be secular, the leader of state need not publicly promote any religion. Besides, he even declared that the party believed in some of the principles of Positive Christianity.

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/605604/posts

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    [Citations needed for provided source]

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Here are the documents: https://lawcollections.library.cornell.edu/nuremberg/catalog/nur:00773

    This R & A report provides its own description on its title page: "This study describes, with illustrative factual evidence, Nazi purposes, policies and methods of persecuting the Christian Churches in Germany and occupied Europe." The report characterizes the National Socialist ideology of aggressive warfare as inherently inimical to Christianity and the Christian Churches, and names specific actions the Nazis took to suppress, terrorize, intimidate, and otherwise persecute Christian clergy and churches within Germany and in the conquered territories annexed to the Reich. For each case, the report suggests a means of solving "The Problem of Proof." This document is a typewritten mimeograph copy of excellent quality on sturdy, slightly browning paper.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    nuremburg

    You know that the trials were absolute bogus, don't you?

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Norman Finklestein has some good research on this. Norman Finklestein, who is a Jew. Even Jewish scholars admit it was bogus

    [–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    ^

    [–]asterias 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    National Socialism is not the same as Hitlerism and is not a strictly German ideology. For example, the Romanian Iron Guard had a completely different attitude towards religion.

    [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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      [–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      ^

      [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      The ideology is forbidden in a major part of the world. It will cause black-listing of this site. And it will have consequences on hosting and such. And many legal consequences.

      Tfw your historical narratives are so self-evidently correct that you have to make questioning them illegal

      [–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      (note: there are just a few 100 people in the US wanting to promote this stuff)

      I would bet money the real number is at least in the thousands, with tens of thousands more that are at least sympathetic to the idea of a white ethnostate. The USA has 330 million people, even only 1 in 100,000 being a nazi supporter gives you over 3k supporters, and that would still be an extremely fringe ideology.