Are jewish people really overrepresented in LGBT?

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[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Hitler is their strawman. Most of them couldn't give a rats ass about Jews, and are even biased against them themselves.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

And yet the subject of Hitler has been turned into the biggest taboo ever, any chance at rehabilitating his image or debating the good he has done is totally suppressed.

But the same cannot be said about Stalin or Communism. Ideologies that are on record killed more people, but still have positive portrayals in the media.

And the reasons for this are obvious. If Hitler was the only man in history who made it ok to question Jewish influence at even a political level, whereas the Soviets (and Communism) were the total opposite, then it's valid to believe that perhaps the SJW Extremists we both hate are being lead by another powerful group who enforce this status quo. And that other group is quickly filled in by the Jews.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

They are most certainly communists. Which is the reason they defend communists and hate Hitler so much. Hitler had more enemies besides the Jews you know.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Now here is something to think about: where did Communism come from? And why did it so happen that Jews took a leading role in the movement?

Such as the German Civil War, where all majority of Communist leaders where confirmed Jews?

https://files.catbox.moe/13ns4b.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918%E2%80%931919

Look at the date as well? 1918 ~ 1919 or right after the first World War. Do you think it's possible that Hitler was aware Germany was in a very precarious situation? And that the only way to save Germany was to rightfully call out both the Communists and Jews who participated in nearly bringing down his own country?

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Whatever happened it was wrong to send them all to concentration camps along with everyone he didn't like, and subject them to horrifically cruel experiments and torture them to death. Even if someone does deserve to die, what good does torturing them do except appeal to your own evil desires?

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

So this is where two sides to every story comes from.

The Germans actually did try to work with Jews in the beginning. With a goal of resettling them outside of Germany. However, there was disagreements along the way, that includes blaming both sides.

For the Germans, there was a real fear that the Jews had been plotting against them, which escalated into the Second World War.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany_Must_Perish!

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Exiling them doesn't sound like working with them. Not only that, but they were taken away from other countries too when Germany invaded. I'll admit it's possible Hitler wasn't aware of the atrocities that happened at the camps. But they happened, and that can't be justified even if the prisoners were the most vile creatures imaginable. And wrath was brought upon a whole people over the actions of a few. That's outrageous.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Exiling them doesn't sound like working with them.

Both sides did come to an agreement, with Jews being allowed to go to Palestine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

I would say it was for the best, as it meant Germany could actually focus on looking after their own people.

I'll admit it's possible Hitler wasn't aware of the atrocities that happened at the camps. But they happened, and that can't be justified even if the prisoners were the most vile creatures imaginable. And wrath was brought upon a whole people over the actions of a few. That's outrageous.

Both sides were engaged in total war. The allies had also built camps and detained anyone they saw as being enemies. Winners get to right history however, and thus only Germany looks bad for doing it. Especially when you look at the Soviets who were far more brutal in their treatment of prisoners, but are still seen as being part of the "good guys".

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think the commies were a lot worse too, but that doesn't excuse what the Germans did.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I agree. I don't have to support senseless bloodshed if it can be avoided.

Ultimately though, we now know Germany was the lesser evil, and the allies winning is arguably responsible for more suffering than what Hitler did.

As an example, the Soviets surviving WW2 allowed Communism to spread to more nations. Almost all of them suffering devastating famines or genocides.

And of course, Western nations are feeling the full brunt of accepting diversity and unrestricted capitalism.