Are jewish people really overrepresented in LGBT?

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Ok,so i have seen some headlines where people bring up LGBT by religion and it showed that the highest number of them are religiously jewish.(think the study even said it was higher than atheist/no religion)There was also an article that states Tel aviv is the gayest city in the world.My question is if were to believe these numbers are true, and the idea that the promotion of LGBT is part of a depopulation agenda against whites , then from this can one conclude that...jewish people are falling for their own propaganda?I'll even say that i have even seen a few jews who turned out to also be transgender. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D76oaapWwAMF_kF?format=jpg&name=large

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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (29 children)

My question is if were to believe these numbers are true, and the idea that the promotion of LGBT is part of a depopulation agenda against whites

This is only half of it. The other half is that jews are just a genuinely sick and depraved people who have been into human sacrifice, paedophilia, homosexuality etc since time immemorial, even outside of them moral depravity jews always CHOSE to live in filth in ghettos despite being extremely rich they would have terrible hygiene and such. They are just creating the environment they enjoy living in, the fact that they get to see other people becoming mentally ill and shit is just a bonus.

[–]AlphixNational Socialist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Cannibalism too.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (27 children)

You're probably right...and the other ancient nations and religions were twice as bad.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (26 children)

Not really, uncivilised peoples sometimes. When civilisations were collapsing and becoming degenerare too, other than these 2, which most the time weren't even as bad as jews anyway, people were horrified at the degeneracy of jews.

Look at what Tacitus wrote about them for example

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

Do you really trust what those countries said about them? Jews were one of the few people to stand up to practices such as child sacrifice. We remember them for having Hammurabi laws like "an eye for an eye", which are pretty bad, but meanwhile almost everywhere else the idea was "an entire social circle tortured and killed for an eye". And they were one of the few with a large amount of people accepting of outsiders (this is why the Jewish Bible says "gentiles are subhuman dogs" in one place, but in another "treat the foreigner as one of your own").

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

Jews have genocided entire civilisations/races multiple times and have been draining non-jewish children of blood in human sacrifices forever lol. Everything you say about 'the other countries' is true for jews.

And they were one of the few with a large amount of people accepting of outsiders

Only to parasitise off of them, enslave them, and eventually kill them off. They even killed jews who assimilated rather than remaining loyal to jewry. Kosher food is a social technology that was designed specifically so jews wouldn't be able to share a meal with gentiles, they have never had any intentions to befriend the goyim and have always punished jews who did.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

So you know there are Jews who aren't on board with the whole Jewry thing, which already means the problem isn't "Jews". Of course there's a Jewry, and there's also a cabal of Christian Pharisees who wield all the power and influence. And don't even get me started on Islam and many pagan religions.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

there's also a cabal of Christian Pharisees who wield all the power and influence. And don't even get me started on Islam and many pagan religions.

Mocking those groups doesn't get your bank accounts frozen, or terminated from your job.

When you mock Jews you lose money, you lose sponsorships, monuments are taken down, banned from ALL social media, you're forced to apologize and attend Holocaust Museums to prove you're reprogrammed.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

That comes from SJW extremists who are currently obsessed with Hitler for some reason. It would be even worse if you said anything bad about black or LGBTQIAFPABCDEFG+ people. Or Democrats. Or the mods.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

You're correct when you say they are obsessed with Hitler.

What if I told you that "some reason" is also why they don't want anyone specifically talking about Jewish power? And that Mr. Hitler was the only successful person to lead a nation that could resist their influence?

Again, you are super close. Don't give up on getting closer to the final truthful answer.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Hitler is their strawman. Most of them couldn't give a rats ass about Jews, and are even biased against them themselves.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

None of them have even a fraction of the power of jews. Even bringing them up shows a total lack of knowledge of institutions and makes you look like a dumb conspiratard

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

They hold enormous sway over nearly half of the United States. And that figure is increasing as crazy liberals make people desperate for a solution.

Meanwhile...Judaism is very small.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Meanwhile...Judaism is very small.

Yes, they're a tiny fraction of the population yet they run the whole west.

They hold enormous sway over nearly half of the United States.

They hold 100% control over 100% of every institution, public and private.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Even if there was a Jewish conspiracy, there's no way it would be 100%.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

then from this can one conclude that...jewish people are falling for their own propaganda?

They wont wipe themselves out because they still have the Haredi/Ultra Orthodox population that can churn out new Jews like puppies.

On top of that, the most powerful Jews still maintain a Conservative image. Bibi Netanyahu isn't gay. Neither is George Soros.

Gay Jews only exist as foot soldiers, to be used in agitating the White race.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is the same reason I'm nearly certain that a similar cabal of (faux) Christian elitists exists, at least in America. These cultural battles like LGBT were mostly a minor issue among Christians until 2020 drove everybody crazy, even among the more conservative ones (theologically, not politically). But all the most influential theologians seem to care about little else, and have been this way for decades. They also promote the "marry as soon as possible and have as many kids as possible" agenda, contrary to their own religion and scripture, as well as most of Christendom before 2020. And have promoted brutal theocracy and opposed things like free speech and religious freedom for decades, whereas that mentality only entered the mainstream in June 2020.

[–]Nombre27 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://jewishcontributions.com/infotables/lgbt/

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think they are falling for their own propaganda.

Rather gay people tend to be born from older parents. Jewish people are more likely to be professionals or otherwise put their career first so have kids later. They have more autists for the same reason.

If you watch the beginning of Idiocracy the childless couple are pretty much a normal urban Jewish couple.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

Does Christianity count as Jewish?

In all seriousness I have a lot of trouble believing these statistics based on my experience. But selection bias is a huge problem, and it's likely that the militant atheist SJW libtards are the vocal minority and have enormous overrepresentation, as is usually the case with that crowd.

I would say it's evidence that "the Jews" are not in fact a bunch of Disney villains trying to take over the world using LGBT propaganda. If there is a Jewish cabal (and there are probably several, no different from everyone else), there's no way the everyday Jew is a part of that elite conspiracy. "Jews" are not one cohesive organized conspiracy against the rest of the world, they have sects and disagreements just like every other religion. Most Jews outside of Israel aren't even Zionists.

Unfortunately there's always going to be a bit of favoritism between Jews, but it's not like that isn't true of every single religion in history sparing some rare exceptions such as Christianity. So why single out Jews?

However a lot of the more reformed Jews don't share this mentality, and very few of them actually have any ill will toward gentiles. That rabbi who said "They will plow, they will reap, we will sit like an effendi and eat" was harshly rebuked by the vast majority of Jews. He is considered an extremist.

[–]Saiditking 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

In all seriousness I have a lot of trouble believing these statistics based on my experience.

You have lots of "experience" on the subject do u?

I would say it's evidence that "the Jews" are not in fact a bunch of Disney villains trying to take over the world using LGBT propaganda.

None of them are disney villains, not even the ones who ARE pretty much trying to take over the world(and currently succeeding). What exact percentage of Jews this group comprises I don't know, but their Jewishness is central to both their identity and their success in achieving power. I don't think the LGBT agenda is central to their plans and it is probably the one area where they seem to have drank their own koolaid. The primary means of ethnic cleansing they are engaged in is ethnic replacement through mass migration and the encouragement of interracial relationships, and they definitely aren't drinking the koolaid in those areas, as their apartheid ethnostate Israel certainly showcases.

If there is a Jewish cabal (and there are probably several, no different from everyone else), there's no way the everyday Jew is a part of that elite conspiracy.

I mostly agree with this. It's their elite generally, although the rank and file are often willing stoodges. This doesn't really change anything about the overall JQ.

there's no way the everyday Jew is a part of that elite conspiracy.

What they are doing doesn't really even require an organized conspiracy. It only requires that they possess power, are ethnocentric, and tend to have a fear and hatred of European peoples. There's not much in the way of conspiring that is needed, although conspiring certainly does occur among some of their elite.

"Jews" are not one cohesive organized conspiracy against the rest of the world, they have sects and disagreements just like every other religion.

No one is saying they have some hive mind. They can loosely coordinate simply based on a shared understanding of who their main enemies are, and many of them demonstrably do coordinate. Sure they have disagreements about tactics and priorities, that neither proves nor disproves anything.

Most Jews outside of Israel aren't even Zionists.

This is demonstrably false. Polls I've seen show they overwhelmingly are. A prominent poll in the US showed something like 95% of them are.

Unfortunately there's always going to be a bit of favoritism between Jews

Oh, is that all it is, just a bit of favoritism huh. Is that how they have managed to have near total control over Hollywood and the media for multiple generations despite comprising just 2% of the US population? Just a bit of favoritism is why they have THE most powerful lobby in Washington, one which effectively vets all US politicians?

However a lot of the more reformed Jews don't share this mentality, and very few of them actually have any ill will toward gentiles.

How do you know this? Probably most "secular" Jews aren't overtly hostile, but still have their prejudices, but there certainly appears to be some very powerful ones who are aggressively hostile, at least towards European peoples. We can't even criticize them or call attention to this because that would be "antisemitic, and "everyday" Jews are almost universally silent about this, and will even circle the wagons and defend the hostile ones if anyone criticizes or scrutinizes them. They aren't policing their own and actively prevent anyone else from doing it.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

None of what you described sounds different from any other culture or religion, including your own. What's of most concern is Jews having a lot of power and money, which mostly stems from Jewish culture being big on success. Jews aren't inherently more evil than anyone else.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Also, why are interracial relationships bad?

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Children with low iq like you

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Unfortunately there's always going to be a bit of favoritism between Jews, but it's not like that isn't true of every single religion in history sparing some rare exceptions such as Christianity. So why single out Jews?

I treat them the same way I treat Boomers.

They selfishly stole the benefits of growing up in majority white nations, while pushing for more immigration/multiculturalism on their children.

If more Jews actually came out as a group and denounced White genocide and Israel, there would be no issue. But that is not happening. Case and point: a man like Ben Shapiro said it's ok for America to turn Brown, but Israel can have tougher borders.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Jews are white themselves.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

Jews are white themselves.

I reject this for two reasons:

  1. They're Middle Easterners/mixed race. Whites are broadly from Europe with little admixture from elsewhere.

  2. Jews who pass themselves as White has always had more negative consequences than good ones. Think of it like a Spy. Just because they can dress up and mimic their host nation, doesn't actually mean they're on the same team.

The biggest examples of this can be seen in Jewish overrepresentation in power. Jews are never told to feel guilty for what feels like greed or moral wrongdoings. Such as the mass killings that took place under the Soviet Union.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Stalin tried to exterminate the Jews too.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Actually, he wanted to relocate them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast

Regardless, it doesn't debunk what I said. Jews had committed massacres but we never hear about them or see them blamed.

Even right now, we have examples like Jeffery Epstein get swept under the rug, but a man like Kanye West is being actively hunted by the media and having his bank accounts frozen for daring to question Jewish influence.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

That's because Kanye West is a conservative, whereas Jeffery Epstein was in league with Bill Gates, Bill Clinton, Ghislaine Maxwell, Ellen Pao, Joe Biden, Barack Obama, Hunter Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and the rest of the deep state.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

You're almost getting there.

Now look up the people who are disproportionately involved with the deep state and trying to control the world?

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jews-in-the-biden-administration

I can also correct you that it's not just Conservatism. There has always been bipartisan support for Jews from both parties.

https://www.defensenews.com/congress/2021/09/23/house-passes-1-billion-for-israels-iron-dome-system-in-blowout-vote/

Now connect the dots. It's Elite Jews in Government vs Gentiles.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I already explained why there's so many Jews in higher-class professions. If it were really a conspiracy we'd be hearing day-in and day-out about how wonderful Jews are.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I already explained why there's so many Jews in higher-class professions. If it were really a conspiracy we'd be hearing day-in and day-out about how wonderful Jews are.

If you're referring to the media, that's already the case.

To quote David Chappelle

“This is a rule. You know the rules of perception: if they’re black then it’s a gang, if they’re Italian it’s a mob, but if they’re Jewish it’s a coincidence and you should never speak about it.”

[–]TrabWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If I were to guess just off my experiences then yeah I'd say so because they're pretty gay.

jewish people are falling for their own propaganda?

100% and this goes for other issues too. Non-orthodox Jews birthrates are in the gutter