Are jewish people really overrepresented in LGBT?

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

So this is where two sides to every story comes from.

The Germans actually did try to work with Jews in the beginning. With a goal of resettling them outside of Germany. However, there was disagreements along the way, that includes blaming both sides.

For the Germans, there was a real fear that the Jews had been plotting against them, which escalated into the Second World War.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany_Must_Perish!

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Exiling them doesn't sound like working with them. Not only that, but they were taken away from other countries too when Germany invaded. I'll admit it's possible Hitler wasn't aware of the atrocities that happened at the camps. But they happened, and that can't be justified even if the prisoners were the most vile creatures imaginable. And wrath was brought upon a whole people over the actions of a few. That's outrageous.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Exiling them doesn't sound like working with them.

Both sides did come to an agreement, with Jews being allowed to go to Palestine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

I would say it was for the best, as it meant Germany could actually focus on looking after their own people.

I'll admit it's possible Hitler wasn't aware of the atrocities that happened at the camps. But they happened, and that can't be justified even if the prisoners were the most vile creatures imaginable. And wrath was brought upon a whole people over the actions of a few. That's outrageous.

Both sides were engaged in total war. The allies had also built camps and detained anyone they saw as being enemies. Winners get to right history however, and thus only Germany looks bad for doing it. Especially when you look at the Soviets who were far more brutal in their treatment of prisoners, but are still seen as being part of the "good guys".

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think the commies were a lot worse too, but that doesn't excuse what the Germans did.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I agree. I don't have to support senseless bloodshed if it can be avoided.

Ultimately though, we now know Germany was the lesser evil, and the allies winning is arguably responsible for more suffering than what Hitler did.

As an example, the Soviets surviving WW2 allowed Communism to spread to more nations. Almost all of them suffering devastating famines or genocides.

And of course, Western nations are feeling the full brunt of accepting diversity and unrestricted capitalism.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The west hardly has unrestricted markets, and forced diversity is no diversity at all.