Liberals are finally starting to accept breaking up the U.S.

submitted by radicalcentristNational Centrism from self.debatealtright

Taken from the hyper liberal forum Resetera, it looks like the idea of splitting up the USA is no longer as taboo as once thought.

Even though the polling right now sits at 43% for "yes", that's still pretty damn high and should start signaling what comes next.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/should-the-united-states-break-up.587666/

But of course, some of those comments you'll read in that thread support dissolution for all the "woke" reasons. Like this guy,

https://www.resetera.com/threads/should-the-united-states-break-up.587666/post-87196703

Black people should be given the former Confederate States of Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, Louisiana, and South Carolina. Nukes for self defense and allat.

You know, I always forgot about what happens to the nukes if any White country were to suddenly collapse or redraw its borders? On one hand, Ukraine giving up their nukes is what lead to the whole Russia debacle right now. As well as South Africa gave up their nukes so the Black majority could never use them.

And check out this other goldmine.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/should-the-united-states-break-up.587666/post-87196973

Do us Mexicans get Texas, California, New Mexico, Colorado, Utah, Arizona, Nevada, Wyoming, Kansas and Oklahoma?

Separation is coming, but the non-whites are going to try and claim a large piece of America for themselves. White Man, start taking notes before you're only left with an island or landlocked country.

But even with all the woke drivel, there are at least some SANE Liberals who support peacefully redrawing the map.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/should-the-united-states-break-up.587666/post-87197237

Yep, ending the union needs to happen. Better to try and do it now and somewhat peacefully then when it happens as the federal government collapses and the country erupts into violence. There is no saving the United States. We need to face this reality.

If we could get someone like him as President, then there's still hope for White Man.

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[–]shilldetector 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Jews would never willingly allow it, and they are the ones with power. Some indvidual liberals on one website doesnt mean anything. The entire purpose of the great replacement happening globally is to prevent ANY safe haven or majority white space on earth, least of all one that has nuclear weapons, so you honestly think they would ever allow one in North America along ethnic lines? They would go full scorched earth before they'd allow that.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's funny how shitlibs are basically agreeing with Tom Metzger now lmao

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Liberals empower women, jews and non whites to run core functions of their cities. That's a recipe for starvation.

Do I want white liberals that hate me to starve? No. They are white people and under the right conditions some of them could be converted to our side. Especially the young. That being said people like us are probably 10-30 million strong in the US (up to 50 million if you count certain religious groups). That's plenty for a successful break away nation. I'm not going to risk those 30 million to save liberals that hate us and fought us when we tried to save them.

I'm also VERY confident that if you had a working ethnostate with sustainable ranching, agriculture and a solid currency that white liberals would escape their hellhole cities in droves. We already see a version of this with white Californians going to Idaho and Arizona. In the ethnostate they'd be forced to live under our anti degen regime or be deported. Our ethnostate would probably be a 100 million strong in north america within a generation. That's plenty to secure a future for the white race. All we need is some nuclear super power to keep us safe from the outside. I'm fine with liberals or non whites getting certain parts of the country because I assume we will eventually retake them when those areas fall apart due to starvation and mismanagement. The ethnostate just needs to control some access to the ocean and an area for farming. Everything else is flexible. Personally I'd like to see us break up Canada and take back most of the north for the white race. The Canadian government isn't real. It's just an extension of satanic global jew government and it has no real authority or control over the white souls that live there.

I'm for a nordic nuclear alliance. Albia (the white north american ethnostate) Japan, Russia and any European country that wants to join are welcome into the alliance.

[–]Three_Rainbow_Dildossocks alts: boobiebrother, crustybutt, dingoatemytaco, schizoid 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Given that CalExit and that Cascadia thing in the north-west are both essentially 'progressive' causes, I think a case could be made that some 'progressives' see secessionism as a way to create their ideal society—a CHAZ/CHOP experiment writ large. They seem to be the most vocal secessionists as far as I've seen. Secession in Red states doesn't have the same energy: they have the classic CivNat, pro-Union patriotism to a greater degree than do Democrats.

Statistically, Republicans are still more likely to support secession of Red states from the Union, but I'm hoping that both sides can agree that the best way to move forward is simply to allow heavily 'progressive' and nonwhite areas to leave rather than persist with the kind of centralism that I imagine someone like Trump ardently supporting to 'save the Union' in the hope of going down in history as a second Abe Lincoln. I don't see the point in that. Sure, the military would kill plenty of Antifa and other morons, but the overwhelming majority would survive and still be voting.

I think that Left-wing secessionism can safely operate under Democratic administrations, and so I hope that these losers can stop spraypainting 'Cascadia' on walls and actually start doing something to get places like Washington out of the Union.

And, yes, you can see that the nonwhites are clearly at odds with the baizuo on secessionism. For blacks and Hispanics like those you linked, secessionism is about improving the position of their group (increasing black power, increasing Hispanic power). For White progs it doesn't seem to relate to race: the view is that the Union is 'conservative' or 'reactionary' and that the seceded areas would be more 'progressive' outside of it. For the former it seems like a mere power grab, claiming the White settler nation's territory for their own race; for the latter it's fuelled by their own horrid conceptions of utopianism. 'Secede and we'll progress to Fully Automated Gay Space Luxury Communism!'

You've linked that awful website before. Is that a Left-wing gamer site? For the gamers that are really just gaymerfags: those who complain about the lack of 'diversity' in video games and so on? They seem practically braindead.

Red states refuse to certify a Democrat president and give the electoral college to Trump or electoral boards just decide Trump as the winner.

There's no reason to believe this will happen, and it didn't happen in 2020. Even the current 'coup' conspiracy theory regarding the Electoral College is essentially that Mike Pence was supposed to have had the power to annul the election result, and that he didn't. However, the loophole is simply the consequence of an ambiguity somewhere in the documents, which the Democrats are pushing hard to remove.

Its the extreme cowards way out to say that you are okay with the tens of millions of people who live in Texas, Florida, Georgia, Alabama, ect. being sacrificed to the fascists.

'Fascists'.

The black kids in the new conservative state (presumably because their parents were black Republicans) now living in a country which very quickly would have little reason to even pretend they're against racism?

Yeah, yeah. Republicans are 'racists'. Also, the racist fascists run everything and we oppressed people run nothing but for some weird reason it's they who have to pretend that they aren't something that they are and not us. Yeah, right.

Now we have people like Tucker Carlson spouting neo-Nazi talking points like "replacement theory," which is getting people killed (the Buffalo massacre).

Except that White minoritization isn't a conspiracy theory.

Then there's all the moral panics involving children they've been perpetrating. All of their "groomer" rhetoric is going to get people killed before too long.

Even if the influence of groomers was overestimated by the 'Right', the fact that these morons routinely argue that there should not be harsher laws against groomers simply reveals where their sympathies lie. If they were actually against groomers, then just why do they have so much trouble actually supporting these laws? Who cares if the laws are 'unnecessary' or the 'consequence of moral panics'? There are all sorts of laws on the books for things that barely ever happen as it is, and yet their argument against anti-groomer laws is grounded on as little as the idea that grooming barely ever happens? That's it? That's the only justification for being a piece of shit whose real reason for opposing these laws is the view that pedophiles are just another sexual minority in need of liberation like every other?

I’m so sick of some of y’all thinking there are safe spaces for blacks folks in blue state liberal bubbles. It’s fucking offensive and annoying…This country hates us from every Fucking corner, so stop the bullshit.

Look at this dumb groid. America 'hates' his kind in the year 2022? Bahahaha....

I've love to know how many of the Yes voters have any knowledge or experience in civic engineering, electrical engineering, local municipal governance, etc etc

Cause I'd bet ya'll don't have any

The only reasonably sane quote I can see. But hopefully the insane ones get their way on this issue and California and the Cascadian states find a way to leave the Union.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You've linked that awful website before. Is that a Left-wing gamer site? For the gamers that are really just gaymerfags: those who complain about the lack of 'diversity' in video games and so on? They seem practically braindead.

I find it interesting to read what the other side thinks once in a while. Especially as the same people who post on that site come from wealthy/influential backgrounds, like this thread demonstrates:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/whats-your-salary-what-do-you-do-and-where-do-you-live.564889/

Not to mention, the same Liberals posting in the Secession thread are also surprised the numbers are so close, as opposed to outright opposing dissolution. So it's undeniable a paradigm shift is occurring in front of our faces.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/should-the-united-states-break-up.587666/post-87199199

The fact that it is 40/60 right now is absurd. Should be 5/95 at best. Do people really think that splitting the country into multiple countries is a good idea? Jesus, please go outside.

[–]Fonched 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I see that most are still staunchly against this because they would see a right-wing faction as a repeat of the Confederacy in that would instigate war against more liberal nations and end up being defeated.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

If both countries are able to split the nuclear weapons fairly, then perhaps a civil war could be avoided?

At worst, there would be border skirmishes and disputes, but Pakistan & India shared similar origins but they still avoid all at war because of having nukes.