Russia raises nuclear threats if Finland/Sweden join NATO.

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[–]arainynightinskyrim 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

Why? Russia is a mafia state corrupt to the bone where any resemblance of ethno nationalism brings you to jail.

[–]nordmannenLegionnaire 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

That's not true, but if it were, is Finland better off under the thumb of the US?

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Is America dropping bombs on Finland, killing thousands of civilians?

[–]arainynightinskyrim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

What's not true? Mafia state? Corruption? Jailing of ethno nationalists?

Of course it's better for Finland to be off the thumb of the U.S. but I beleive that Russia would not be that better.

[–]nordmannenLegionnaire 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Mafia state? Corruption?'

This is mostly conjecture, basic descriptors we give countries that go against the world order. They don't really mean anything.

Jailing of ethno nationalists?

That's bad, but not really related to the point. Russia does not push negrolatry, is not going to flood Finland with subsaharans and arabs like the US has. The Finnish people will undoubtedly survive if they side with Russia, otherwise they are doomed to the fate of Sweden, which is already less than 2/3 white. These countries have small populations, and it doesn't take very long to completely ethnically exterminate them. Not only would I prefer Finland to be under Russia's influence, I would prefer that America's geopolitical situation was more like Russia. Despite their issues, Russia stands a much better chance at surviving at least the next 50 years than the US does.

[–]arainynightinskyrim 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is mostly conjecture, basic descriptors we give countries that go against the world order. They don't really mean anything.

I say it by observing russia's overall quality of life and everage life expectancy. They have a population of 120 million and an immence territory rich with natural resources, they should be one of the wealthiest countries in the world.

That's bad, but not really related to the point. Russia does not push negrolatry, is not going to flood Finland with subsaharans and arabs like the US has. The Finnish people will undoubtedly survive if they side with Russia, otherwise they are doomed to the fate of Sweden, which is already less than 2/3 white. These countries have small populations, and it doesn't take very long to completely ethnically exterminate them. Not only would I prefer Finland to be under Russia's influence, I would prefer that America's geopolitical situation was more like Russia. Despite their issues, Russia stands a much better chance at surviving at least the next 50 years than the US does.

Good points, but I'm honestly skeptical about Putin's russia and it's obsession with denazification.

To conclude, I still don't think that they will touch Finland in any way for the simple fact that the EU has a defence pact, if they attack they will be attackign the entirety of the european union.

[–]nordmannenLegionnaire 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I say it by observing russia's overall quality of life and everage life expectancy. They have a population of 120 million and an immence territory rich with natural resources, they should be one of the wealthiest countries in the world.

The dissolution of a multi-national empire that was struggling for the last two decades of its existence followed by almost a decade of economic plundering and liberalism has taken a toll on Russia, I don't disagree that quality of life and life expectancy leave much to be desired. However, Russians have been slowly rebuilding their country, whereas both standards in America are dropping. I imagine when the American empire collapses, our situation will look a lot worse than 1990s Russia. I agree, they should be one of the wealthiest nations in the world, and I hope in my life we will get to see it.

Good points, but I'm honestly skeptical about Putin's russia and it's obsession with denazification. To conclude, I still don't think that they will touch Finland in any way for the simple fact that the EU has a defence pact, if they attack they will be attackign the entirety of the european union.

There is no shortage of fascists, monarchists, and nationalists fighting for Russia in Ukraine right now. I believe the rhetoric on both sides is smoke and mirrors, how else can you explain western support for Azov after the last few years of American politics? The west is as "fascist" as the Russians are "anti-fascist". It also would not surprise me if it was a ploy to motivate Russians to support the fight against "Nazism" as that is a part of their legacy. Apparently Putin's approval rating is over 80%. I'd be surprised if anything comes from these nuclear threats, but it is honestly getting tiresome seeing insignificant countries whine about their neighbors. You said it yourself, the only reason why these countries have a voice is because the rest of the EU will come to their defense. Like an autistic kid who is immune from consequences because he calls the teacher every time you raise a fist.

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[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

a mafia state corrupt to the bone where any resemblance of ethnonationalism brings you to jail.

Whoah buddy, don't shit talk American Jews like this. The good folks at the ADL are protecting you from the Nazis. You have no reason to hate them if you're not a nazi. You're not a Nazi, are you? Surely you wouldn't want the FBI to get a tip on you?

[–]arainynightinskyrim 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Of course jews and america are our main problem, Russia is simply not that better.

[–]EuropeanAwakening14 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, as opposed to America and countries under zog influence.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Wait, the rest of the world aren't corrupt?

[–]arainynightinskyrim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Russia is at the bottom.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

OK so you have access to all the data about the amount of corruption in every government. Must be nice hallucinating like that. Get real dude, you are writing your unfounded beliefs as fact. You know NOTHING.

[–]arainynightinskyrim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The quality of life and life expectancy of that country tell us a lot.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What about the DECREASING life expectancy in the USA, compared to the increasing life expectancy in Russia? No?