Macron announces apartheid on unvaccinated people

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (37 children)

You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts

What's the old saying? "Facts don't care about your feelings?"

I didn't write the links, I'm only sharing them. Everyone is free to read and come up with their own conclusions, but the stories will always exist.

''People are sooo dumb not to get vaccinated against a virus with a 99% survival rate, that mainly kills the old and sick. This is Idiocracy in real life, guys! Natural selection is at work. Those anti-vaxxers are dying off in droves. They should have just shut up and got the jab. Too bad for them. The pro-vaxxers will inherit the earth.'' Thats what you sound like.

Because that's the position anti-vaxxers put me in. They are doing direct damage to themselves and no one else at this point. But like I said, it's your life. Just don't be surprised at any consequences it might bring.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (34 children)

Have you taken the vaxx Radicalcentrist? Which ones and how many boosters?

[–]Nombre27 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This many

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Good to see someone else VAXXMAXXED!

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (31 children)

Have my two pfizer shots. I'll doubt I'll need more, half my country is fully vaccinated, and all the new hospital cases are coming from unvaxxed people. Again, I'm watching a textbook example of natural selection at work.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (30 children)

I'm watching a textbook example of natural selection at work.

Finally something we can both agree on!

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (29 children)

The only problem is the scorecard right now is heavily tilted in my favor.

Even in the .04954584% chance I turn into a Zombie tomorrow, at least I never have to worry about being admitted to a hospital, which is exclusively affecting the unvaxxed people. Even more bizarre, are all the healthcare professionals like that Nurse I linked to earlier, whose job forces them to be around Covid patients all day but they still refuse the medicine. That's the definition of someone who is too stupid to live, and now they're gone.

But I am starting to sound like a record player.

TL:DR: Unvaxxed people will continue to see cases rise and make each other ill, while vaccinated people will get to enjoy life and gather together safely.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

at least I never have to worry about being admitted to a hospital, which is exclusively affecting the unvaxxed people

Why do you straight up just keep ignoring all the data being thrown at you on this sub? VAERS database, survival rates, chance of hospitalization rate by age, pre-existing conditions, PCR test cycles, and the list goes on and on and on. This is ridiculous dude. Your are like an 'approved data points' machine. You show absolutely zero ability to think critically. If this pattern keeps up where you just straight up ignore every argument presented to you and change the topic to a unrelated data point I'm going to have to call that an anti debate tactic and ban you for 30 days. You need to address the points people are politely asking you to address. You can't just use the board as a vaxx advertisement. Everyone can clearly see you are ignoring debate on this particular topic.

Side note: Another slimy thing I see you doing is quoting really large amount of text when replying to people. You only need to cite a sentence or a specific phrase that you are addressing.

insert short example phrase here

When you do this long unnecessary citation bullshit is gums up the threads and makes it impossible for other people to follow the debate and engage. That's another obvious anti debate tactic. Are you clear about the warnings I'm giving you here? We've been VERY patient with you.

But I am starting to sound like a record player.

We know and that's not what DAR is for.

TL:DR: Unvaxxed people will continue to see cases rise and make each other ill, while vaccinated people will get to enjoy life and gather together safely.

I dare you to spit one more platitude at me bro.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Why do you straight up just keep ignoring all the data being thrown out you on this sub? VAERS database, survival rates, chance of hospitalization rate by age, pre-existing conditions, PCR test cycles, and the list goes on and on and on.

What data shows a vaccinated person is more likely to die, after receiving not one but TWO vaccines?

This is the part where you're losing me. One vaccine should have been considered the initial death blow. Yet there are millions of people walking around with two doses that are still alive and healthy. There is no data anywhere in this world that says they should have all been dead.

this pattern keeps up where you just straight up ignore every argument presented to you and change the topic to a unrelated data point I'm going to have to call that an anti debate tactic and ban you for 30 days. You need to address the points people are politely asking you to address. You can't just use the board as a vaxx advertisement. Everyone can clearly see you are ignoring debate on this particular topic.

I've asked for this data many times. I even asked you, or another user, to go to a Covid vaccine clinic and even film inside and show me where are the deaths coming from? This is clear cut evidence that the people who say vaccines are some kind of poison, but refuse to even show a single photograph of some kind of mass burial for vaccinated clients.

I dare you to spit one more platitude at me bro.

Numbers don't lie. You can look at Toronto or Canada in general, and everyday, they post photos of millions of people getting vaccinated. Yet nobody has been able to prove they're all the dead or sick ones. It's been the total opposite.

https://globalnews.ca/news/7981772/covid-19-infections-death-unvaccinated/

A statement from PHAC sent to Global News on Friday said that patients with COVID-19 after either receiving one or two doses were less likely to die than unvaccinated cases that were reported. “The protective effect was significant among partially vaccinated cases aged 60+ years and those that occurred after vaccination with 2 doses over 80 years of age,” read the statement. “Of the vaccinated individuals, only 0.0027 per cent died due to COVID-19 while partially vaccinated and 0.0018 per cent died due to COVID-19 while fully vaccinated” The PHAC data also found that by June 21, only 0.14 per cent of partially vaccinated people were infected 14 days or more after their first dose, while 0.08 per cent of fully vaccinated people became were infected seven or more days after their second. The data comes as Canada continues to place among the most vaccinated countries in the world, currently averaging over 460,000 vaccine doses doled out per day according to COVID19Tracker.ca.

Like I said, I would be happy for you to go into a hospital and start filming where are all the vaccinated patients being dumped off to. This should not be a challenge or a difficult task if you seriously believe the medicine is dangerous. It doesn't even make sense how anyone can even fudge these numbers. 50% of Canada is fully vaccinated, why not just film the streets and show people collapsing or falling on the ground in mass?

https://globalnews.ca/news/8022588/covid-canada-cases-vaccinations-july-12-2021/

More than half of all Canadians who are eligible for a COVID-19 vaccine have now been fully inoculated with both required doses, according to nationwide data. As of Monday evening, the COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker shows 50.4 per cent of Canadians aged 12 and over — more than 16,751,000 people — have received two doses. That’s equal to nearly 44 per cent of the total population. Some provinces are seeing even higher numbers. More than 57 per cent of people aged 12 and over in Manitoba have been fully vaccinated, while Alberta, Saskatchewan, Ontario, New Brunswick and the three territories have cracked 50 per cent as well. Second doses have accelerated across Canada. Over the past month, the share of the total population that has been fully inoculated has quadrupled. Meanwhile, the pace for first doses has slowed compared to the surge seen in the spring. The past 30 days has seen vaccinations increase by just over five per cent of the population, compared to nearly 24 per cent during the 30 days before.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I even asked you, or another user, to go to a Covid vaccine and even film inside and show me where are the deaths coming from

How the fuck do I film inside a covid vaccine what are you even talking about? And I will ask you again. Narrow down your citations and cite exactly what you are referencing. Do not spam huge citations and do not copy huge chunks of others texts. When you do this repeatedly it's an anti debate tactic and it's lazy.

I will ask you again. Do you understand the warnings I'm giving you here? Your account is looking more and more like a paid shill. I'm curious if English is even your primary language.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

See my edit. I clearly meant to say "Covid vaccine clinic". I also made another sentence that said film inside any Hospital and provide proof that vaccinated people are being rushed to the morgue since it should be very easy to find.

Do not spam huge citations and do not copy huge chunks of others texts.

It's not spam. The articles are far longer, but I only cropped the numbers that supported my side. I can't just post a single sentence when most of the context is missing.

I will ask you again. Do you understand the warnings I'm giving you here? Your account is looking more and more like a paid shill. I'm curious if English is even your primary language.

The fact there are still antivaxxers on both the internet and real life doesn't really support the idea I'm being "paid" to do this. But if all this makes you angry, I don't know what else to say. I don't want to see anyone sick or unhealthy. Yet that's literally what supporting all science sponsored medicine is. Seeing the Covid-19 vaccine get spun into a conspiracy just screams bizarre for two reasons:

  1. People are still dying anyway so it's not like life magically gets better by suddenly refusing the vaccine. We go back to the status quo where anyone can catch the disease and it's still a big enough problem to make any social gathering risky.
  2. Vaccines are treated as a solution to getting life back to normal as opposed to just doing nothing. Concerts, restaurants, movie theaters are all promised to open up again if a certain vaccine target is met. I would rather take that risk than having them closed forever because people are too scared to have their businesses become new infection breeding grounds.

This is why I can never be anti-vaxx. The ideology just appears to want to keep everyone miserable and offers no real solution as to what we are suppose to do. Even the brazen idea of "just let everyone catch Covid" doesn't explain what do we do when the situation spirals out of control? What happens when we finally run out of resources and can't treat every sick person? Do we just let society collapse? I can't deal with that, sorry.

[–]Node 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

Are you really this desperate for work?

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    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

    https://thecovidblog.com/ https://medicalkidnap.com/

    It's a shame I can't quote paragraphs anymore but after reading your links, there is an explanation. And none of them actually show how vaccine's somehow increase the risk of death. In the UK alone, 33 million shots were given, only 56 were actually tied to any deaths. So it's not an actual property of the drug that somehow makes the majority of the population more prone to heart problems and drop dead. Quite the opposite. It is literally the rare and unusual side effects scientists have already known about it, but it's not affecting the majority of people who have ever taken it. Some scientists even say that those "clotting issues" could have still existed in those people. It's not a black & white story where refusing the vaccine might not have actually saved them.

    So if the conspiracy is trying to argue that "everyone who receives the vaccine will also get blood clots" then that is false. All data from Canada, UK and EU debunk and show the side effects represent the smallest percentage possible of bad reactions to the vaccine. The majority, are all doing fine.

    You are a mainstream-media-brained sensationalizing globalist cult zombie. You wouldn't understand not wanting to be a guinea pig for globalism and having freedom to resist a New World Order's control systems. It's not in your tainted genes. Natural herd immunity has already been building up which the "vaccines" falsely take credit for right on cue. You ignore the plethora of negative reactions to the "vaccine" and negative long term potential of spike protein shedding: https://brandnewtube.com/watch/a-urgent-message-from-professor-sucharit-bhakdi_895vxLrSVgHYH7y.html

    The people who got Covid-19 in real life actually died or have long term problems like having a lung amputated or suffer mental health issues. According to the FDA, 6 ~ 8 weeks has always been the recommended time to watch for serious side effects in any vaccine. We've past this threshold already when the first doses were already given back in December 2020 and only the tiniest fraction required any hospitalization, if at all.

    You ignore the plethora of negative reactions to the "vaccine" and negative long term potential of spike protein shedding:

    The vaccine doesn't have a live virus. It cannot replicate inside the body. There is no shedding.

    https://immunizebc.ca/ask-us/questions/%E2%80%9Cshedding%E2%80%9D-concern-can-you-shed-covid-19-virus-if-you-get-vaccinated

    [–]Yin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

    People with vaccine deaths and harmful side effects are prone to being referred as "covid cases" instead of counting as vaccination-related cases. Easily less than 10% of the negative vaccine cases are being recorded. This is the same tactic with inflating "covid death" numbers based on false correlation-causation illogical leaps of conclusion (non-causality marked as causal deaths).

    https://brandnewtube.com/watch/a-urgent-message-from-professor-sucharit-bhakdi_895vxLrSVgHYH7y.html

    https://tv.gab.com/channel/darrenschmidtdc/view/the-vaccine-is-not-what-you-60be3ab38cb53b19e2d299e6

    Tell me what you disagree with in those videos.

    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

    People with vaccine deaths and harmful side effects are prone to being referred as "covid cases" instead of counting as vaccination-related cases.

    Even if what you're saying is true, I'm still waiting for evidence, anywhere in the world, where vaccine patients have been buried in mass. Which again, should be very easy to find because the number of people who get vaccinated everyday is being tracked in real time.

    https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

    Why is requesting such evidence hard for anti-vaxxers, but when I needed data comparing Covid case surges last year, with Hospital reports that morgues were being overloaded, it's very easy?

    This is the same tactic with inflating "covid death" numbers based on false correlation-causation illogical leaps of conclusion (non-causality marked as causal deaths).

    See the above example. When India lifted restrictions just a couple of months ago, crematoriums were overloaded compared to the previous year. They couldn't have lied about this. Even at their peak deaths of September 2020, nobody was complaining the situation was so out of control, that foreign nations had to airlift supplies to help them. That stuff only happened in this year.

    If only 10% negative vaccine cases are being reported, we need evidence that the other 90% are somehow lying or dropping dead. But this again looks ridiculous when we have examples of the most vaccinated countries like Israel, and nothing about their hospitalization situation has changed. In fact, Israeli hospitals have gotten emptier over time, so where are the sick people being sent off to? Do you think Israel secretly rounds up Vaccine patients and shoots them in a field somewhere?

    Tell me what you disagree with in those videos.

    First video is really weird. Again, him spouting we have herd immunity when millions are still dying of Covid is nonsense. Nor was it ever a good idea to remove social distancing restrictions until we can seriously solve the outbreak problems associated it.

    Just as late as last week, a fitness gym tried to completely re-open, and it ended in failure. There was no herd immunity when they were forced to shut themselves down again because people were getting sick.

    https://globalnews.ca/news/8007545/covid-ontario-oakville-gym-delta-variant-cases/

    Second video, there's a lot to process, but I can already answer many myths present in the video. The usual "rushed vaccine" claim ignores that Scientists never started from scratch, they have far better funding, increased competition to deliver a better drug, more volunteers to study and work from etc. His claim against PCR Testing is wrong. Viruses contain RNA. That "genetic code" is exactly what they're made of. In regards to testing cycles, the cutoff point is 40 cycles. But you can still have a positive test result, even with cycles as low as 30.

    I'll be honest and just say I'm not sure if this man really did his research, or if he's aware of the many counter rebuttals that either exist because of newer information, or if he simply refused to read any.

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      [–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      They are doing direct damage to themselves and no one else at this point.

      The people writing those scripts are messing with you. You can't write stuff like that, then expect people to take you seriously.