Denmark is most intolerant country in northern Europe | IceNews [2015]

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[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (54 children)

Based Danes.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (53 children)

29 percent is kinda low

The poll – which monitored the situation in fellow Scandinavian countries Sweden, Finland and Norway, as well as the UK, Germany and France – ranked Denmark just ahead of Finland after finding that 29 per cent of respondents were intolerant of black people, Jews, Muslims, Romas or gays.

Poll a muslim country on what they think of gays and you would most likely get 80% or more.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (51 children)

29 percent is kinda low

For a Nordic country? Not really.

Poll a muslim country on what they think of gays and you would most likely get 80% or more.

I honestly don't care what people think of gays, and the Muslim world hasn't been bombarded with liberal propaganda like the West has. It's a false comparison.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (47 children)

I honestly don't care what people think of gays, and the Muslim world hasn't been bombarded with liberal propaganda like the West has. It's a false comparison.

Do you have a study that confirms intolerance can be controlled by the media? If such a thing was possible, no Western country should be 50% Conservative.

In fact, I can debunk this right now. Muslims live in the UK, but the "liberal propaganda" doesn't stop them from protesting LGBT education.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-47498446

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (38 children)

Do you have a study that confirms intolerance can be controlled by the media?

Please tell me you're joking. How do you think the West has become less intolerant over the past 60 years?

no Western country should be 50% Conservative.

What do you mean by conservative? Claiming that the Democrats are the real racists and wanting free markets?

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (37 children)

Please tell me you're joking. How do you think the West has become less intolerant over the past 60 years?

That's not the media, that's because Western society is very individualist. Just like how you don't care about gays, that sentiment is shared amongst other people because they don't really believe in infringing freedoms. Same could now be applied for Blacks and Jews. Westerners place less emphasis on skin color or religion overall and rather judge individuals only.

Edit: And before 60 years ago, you still had Westerners who fought against the slave trade or supported women's rights. Both of these existed before CNN or Twitter.

What do you mean by conservative? Claiming that the Democrats are the real racists and wanting free markets?

Conservatism is literally the polar opposite of Liberalism. If Liberals only needed to brainwash people via media, then every election should have them winning by pure landslides. But clearly such propaganda is overexaggerated and doesn't explain why we see gaps in intolerance. Also see my edit about the Muslims living in the UK. They're exposed to it, yet they immediately resist/protest LGBT education.

Edit 2: Another example that debunks this is Brazil. They recently elected a Right-wing leader despite almost all their institutions being run by pseudo-socialists.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (36 children)

That's not the media, that's because Western society is very individualist.

And who do you think seeded those ideas in the public's mind?

Just like how you don't care about gays

No, that's because I think we have far more pressing issues. It has nothing to do with individualism on my part.

Edit: And before 60 years ago, you still had Westerners who fought against the slave trade or supported women's rights. Both of these existed before CNN or Twitter.

Those were elite-driven fights. They were never put up to a public vote.

Conservatism is literally the polar opposite of Liberalism.

No, it isn't. You're stuck in American ideology.

Also see my edit about the Muslims living in the UK. They're exposed to it, yet they immediately resist/protest LGBT education.

That's because they consume their ow media.

Edit 2: Another example that debunks this is Brazil. They recently elected a Right-wing leader despite almost all their institutions being run by pseudo-socialists.

That's because they jailed the more popular socialist candidate. The vote for Bolsonaro was largely a protest vote. Also, Brazil has a massive alternative media landscape.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (35 children)

And who do you think seeded those ideas in the public's mind?

Philosophers. Theologians. Scientists. Although I don't subscribe to the idea they were all Liberal plots to undermine nations or bring everyone to their side. You could for example, read the bible and still become very Left-wing or Right-wing because of it. Society in general also constantly changes. Whether because of technology or the environment, or both. We're expected to adapt to it, but we have our disagreements on how to do it.

Those were elite-driven fights. They were never put up to a public vote.

This argument equally works in the opposite direction. The public may have wanted to end slavery sooner but only the Elites benefitted from keeping it. But to pretend there where no Westerners who were against slavery by their own free will contradicts history. The religious Quaker movement banned slavery in their close circles, and a White Man personally led his own anti-slave rebellion in the U.S.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown_(abolitionist)

No, it isn't. You're stuck in American ideology.

How is it American? British Conservatives [Tories] still differ from British Liberals [Labor] for example. Even though I understand that within Europe and other parts of the world there does exist some overlap in beliefs. But if one party wants to ban same-sex marriage (usually Conservative) but the other legalizes it (usually Liberal or Left) than no, they're not the same.

That's because they consume their ow media.

Based on what? You might as well extend this thinking to everyone. I manage to follow media from all the world, how brainwashed would that make me? More, less, not at all?

That's because they jailed the more popular socialist candidate. The vote for Bolsonaro was largely a protest vote. Also, Brazil has a massive alternative media landscape.

Every country that's not a dictatorship has alternative media. This actually weakens the argument that Liberals can successfully brainwash people when plenty of competition exists.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Philosophers. Theologians. Scientists.

None of those people could have achieved it without the backing of the media.

Although I don't subscribe to the idea they were all Liberal plots to undermine nations or bring everyone to their side.

It's Jews.

Society in general also constantly changes.

Yes, but it never changes in a vacuum. There are always people steering us towards something. I'm not a reactionary.

The public may have wanted to end slavery sooner

They didn't.

But to pretend there where no Westerners who were against slavery by their own free will contradicts history.

I never said that.

How is it American? British Conservatives [Tories] still differ from British Liberals [Labor] for example.

The differences are hardly there. It's mostly show.

But if one party wants to ban same-sex marriage (usually Conservative) but the other legalizes it (usually Liberal or Left) than no, they're not the same.

It was actually the conservatives who legalized it in the UK.

Based on what?

Based on reality. A lot of these Muslims are known to self-segregate. This isn't news.

Every country that's not a dictatorship has alternative media.

You're so bluepilled it's laughable. Western countries are dictatorships. We just live under dictatorships of global capital.

This actually weakens the argument that Liberals can successfully brainwash people when plenty of competition exists.

The competition doesn't run our states, and a lot of that competition is controlled opposition.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

None of those people could have achieved it without the backing of the media.

So what are you saying? We should cancel everything then? The media was hostile to Charles Darwin when he first published his works on Evolution. Yet I don't think he actually cared what society thought of him, he was just doing his job. Now hundreds of years later, most people are free to believe in evolution theory without being jailed or murdered for it. Similar to today, I don't actually care what mainstream media thinks. How else did I learn about this board and manage to talk to you if I was brainwashed by Liberals? Answer: every person born with free will has the power to search for the truth on their own.

It's Jews.

So the Jews also lead to the creation of right-wing media? I mean, I don't deny that being a possibility but it only makes the media agenda more irrelevant. Consider that the Soviet Union doesn't even exist anymore, Liberal power is not this unstoppable force that somehow controls the planet. We live in a world that is much more Centre/Centre-Right on average.

They didn't.

So everyone supported slavery? Why? The majority didn't even own them and the ones who did, used it to devalue labor. It was basically a lose-lose situation and that's before going into the moral arguments of why keeping human beings as property was an abomination.

I never said that.

Keep in mind, if there was ever growing resistance against slavery, public mindshare would have begun to reflect it. Similar to how the Vietnam or Iraq Wars had support in the beginning but died near the end, if the act of owning slaves was tied to immense violence, sympathy for it would plummet. In fact, there was a real life example. Abolitionists and Slave owners were already fighting when new territory was being founded. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleeding_Kansas

The differences are hardly there. It's mostly show. It was actually the conservatives who legalized it in the UK.

Well, Britain's situation is actually unique. It was the Left who made an argument against it based on religious freedoms. but the Conservatives passed it anyway with bipartisan support. It's fair to say both parties were the same on that issue, but when it came to another like Brexit, then Conservatives represented the majority of Leavers, with Liberals parties voting to stay.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/518474/eu-referendum-voting-intention-by-political-affiliation/

Based on reality. A lot of these Muslims are known to self-segregate. This isn't news.

The article I posted was literally Muslims protesting LGBT education in public school, not private. So the state indoctrination is there in front of them but they still rejected it.

You're so bluepilled it's laughable. Western countries are dictatorships. We just live under dictatorships of global capital. The competition doesn't run our states, and a lot of that competition is controlled opposition.

That only means we can't trust anyone then. I agree.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (32 children)

Every country that's not a dictatorship has alternative media. This actually weakens the argument that Liberals can successfully brainwash people when plenty of competition exists.

Can you mention the alternative media in Denmark lol?

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (31 children)

Is the internet banned in Denmark?

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

In fact, I can debunk this right now. Muslims live in the UK, but the "liberal propaganda" doesn't stop them from protesting LGBT education.

Zoomer muslims in the west are degenerate af lmao. I bet if you got grindr you'd find a ton of pakis there in london.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

We were talking about attitudes, not behavior.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My point is that liberal propaganda did clearly have an effect in his example. And ime they're pretty progressive in attitude too.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Do you have a study that confirms intolerance can be controlled by the media?

So you're seriously saying that the media doesn't shape people's opinions?

I'm thunderstruck. That's actually Destiny tier denialism/idiocy right there. In fact it's even stupider than the time Destiny said lobbying money doesn't influence politics.

Congrats.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

It's the same argument that blame video games for mass shootings.

No, both games and the media are just tools. There's nothing about them that physically latch onto your brain and order you to blow up a school or vote at the polls just because you saw something on Television or a game did it.

Now, maybe some people are weak minded or lack serious self discipline that these tools take advantage of them. In which case it could be argued they played somewhat of a role in their behavior. But don't take that as absolute proof that human beings should also have no responsibility for their own actions. In fact, that starts to border on mental illness territory in which case, the answer is to keep these people sheltered from these products. Or perhaps, even just improving education might yield better results. Teach more people to view the media with skepticism and an open mind so as to not act directly on their impulses.

In fact it's even stupider than the time Destiny said lobbying money doesn't influence politics.

I'm not a Destiny fan but I prefer to see the full quote as things may be taken of context. For example, did he provide reasons or certain scenarios where the above is true? Just a single statement isn't good enough to make a comment.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's the same argument that blame video games for mass shootings.

No it isn't you lunatic.

But don't take that as absolute proof that human beings should also have no responsibility for their own actions.

No one said that, Destiny.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No it isn't you lunatic.

The media alone isn't enough to form opinions for other people. I would argue upbringing and education are much stronger. The media acts as "confirmation bias" in certain scenarios, but if you're personally educated on a subject, you're most likely not going to pay attention.

A good example, I had a debate last week on this board about Africa, and I brought up how the media does a horrible job at showing the huge amounts of progress being made on the continent. Basically, all the pictures showing bullshit wars and poverty don't actually reflect daily African life where countries are starting to modernize and build self sustaining infrastructure to meet the Native people's needs. Now, most Westerners are clearly ignorant of this and fall prey to the "mud hut" stereotypes, but for people like me who have obviously done their own research, they quickly see through the media's whitewashing and are completely immune to the nonsense.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

the Muslim world hasn't been bombarded with liberal propaganda like the West has

Sure they have, they all have access to the English speaking internet. If you're rich and educated enough to use it, then you'll probably be cucked too lmao.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Having access is different from actually watching it.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Right and certain sections conservative Islamic nations do watch and internalize this shit. Younger and wealthier people usually. The march of progress will start there soon I'm sure.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Should be 100%. They are an abomination.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

God bless the Danes. Most surprising part is the Jews made it to the list. I could definitely see Muslims making it but didn't expect that.

Also the 'Roma' -- fuck I hate that stupid word -- part is surprising and I'm guessing the poll indicates only 30 percent of Danes have ever encountered a Gypsy before. I don't care how tolerant you are or left wing every single person who's actually encountered Gypsies IRL hates them.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

That troll is back again.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Which one?

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Radicalfag

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

He doesn't annoy me as much as a Salos type. I think he's just a Destiny tier thinker and it's genuine -- which is more depressing when you think about it than it being a bit.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Who is destiny? Is that another troll?

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

He's a streamer. You'd probably know him if you saw him. Tiny little fella with an adderall prescription who argues just for the sake of arguing and debates ourguys sometimes -- or used to.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Looks like some sort of youtube income scheme. I've been waiting for a quality argument for why white people should embrace neo-marxism, but none of them have been very convincing.

Most of these arguments are irrellevant. "Are white people oppresssed?" Who gives a fuck? I dont need to be oppressed to not want niggers and mexicans fucking up my neighborhood.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Stop calling everyone a troll you fucking retarded cunt

[–]somewherenear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Stfu troll.