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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

These are elite women, so unlikely to be brown. They are almost certainly at least 90% European,

This is false. Brazil is a mixed race society and "whiteness" doesn't actually exist there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_Brazil#Race_and_class

However, some studies, focusing in the difference between self- and alter-classification show that this phenomenon is far more complex than "money whitens". For instance, according to a study conducted by Paula Miranda-Ribeiro and André Junqueira Caetano among women in Recife, while there is significant inconsistency between the "parda" and "preta" categories, most women are consistently classified by themselves and interviewers into "brancas" and non-brancas. 21.97% of women were consistently classified as White, and 55.13% of women were consistently classified as non-White, while 22.89% of women where inconsistently classified. But the inconsistently classified women reveal an important aspect of economic "whitening". "Self-darkening" women, i.e., those who view themselves as "pretas" or "pardas" but are classified as "brancas" by the interviewers (4.08% of women) have above average education, while the 18.82% "self-whitening" women have a low average education, lower indeed than that of consistently non-White women.[66]

Despite being hell on earth, one thing Brazil did better than other European countries is they didn't push aggressive racism once the slaves were freed. So at least the "bootstraps" arguments work in their favor when white or brown people become successful instead of being forced in poverty like Jim crow or Apartheid.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

What you just posted contradicts what you said. The concept of "whiteness" does exist in Brazil and there is even a small percentage of Brazilians with Germanic appearance.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Brazil and there is even a small percentage of Brazilians with Germanic appearance.

Roughly 3% of Brazil, about 6 million or so are German

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is anecdotal, but the Brazilians I've talked to literally want nothing to do with the U.S definitions of "white". This is partly because race relations in Brazil are far more peaceful rather than the politically driven tensions that currently exist in the West. Ironically, it's actually Communists in Brazil who have been trying to force the topic of "race" in their country, and they've been importing Black Lives Matter to try and change their culture.

[–]VacaLeitera767 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, that is true, there is a leftist and media campaign to racialize Brazil, ironically it is the upper class and "LGBTQ"-type people, who are alienated from mainstream brazilian culture that are buying into it, while it is largely ignored and laughed at by the mixed-race population.

Aggressive, virulent blacks are being shoved down people's throats, and I can already sense a backlash, this is going to be a monumental failure. Even the leftists themselves are acknowledging that their efforts are making brazilians' opinion of blacks more negative.

[–]VacaLeitera767 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, race is less strictly defined in Brazil but that doesn't change the fact that the upper and middle classes are visibly overwhelmingly European-descended.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Everyone in Brazil is European descended. That's the point. They may still look white, but their DNA reveals they still have significant concentrations of African or Amerindian genes. It's like Obama. He "looks" black but he's literally 50% white due to his parents.