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[–]VacaLeitera767 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

These are elite women, so unlikely to be brown. They are almost certainly at least 90% European, which is the pattern for upper middle class Brazilians. White women are unfortunately also much more likely to be dykes than the more conservative brown women.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

These are elite women, so unlikely to be brown. They are almost certainly at least 90% European,

This is false. Brazil is a mixed race society and "whiteness" doesn't actually exist there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_Brazil#Race_and_class

However, some studies, focusing in the difference between self- and alter-classification show that this phenomenon is far more complex than "money whitens". For instance, according to a study conducted by Paula Miranda-Ribeiro and André Junqueira Caetano among women in Recife, while there is significant inconsistency between the "parda" and "preta" categories, most women are consistently classified by themselves and interviewers into "brancas" and non-brancas. 21.97% of women were consistently classified as White, and 55.13% of women were consistently classified as non-White, while 22.89% of women where inconsistently classified. But the inconsistently classified women reveal an important aspect of economic "whitening". "Self-darkening" women, i.e., those who view themselves as "pretas" or "pardas" but are classified as "brancas" by the interviewers (4.08% of women) have above average education, while the 18.82% "self-whitening" women have a low average education, lower indeed than that of consistently non-White women.[66]

Despite being hell on earth, one thing Brazil did better than other European countries is they didn't push aggressive racism once the slaves were freed. So at least the "bootstraps" arguments work in their favor when white or brown people become successful instead of being forced in poverty like Jim crow or Apartheid.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

What you just posted contradicts what you said. The concept of "whiteness" does exist in Brazil and there is even a small percentage of Brazilians with Germanic appearance.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Brazil and there is even a small percentage of Brazilians with Germanic appearance.

Roughly 3% of Brazil, about 6 million or so are German

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is anecdotal, but the Brazilians I've talked to literally want nothing to do with the U.S definitions of "white". This is partly because race relations in Brazil are far more peaceful rather than the politically driven tensions that currently exist in the West. Ironically, it's actually Communists in Brazil who have been trying to force the topic of "race" in their country, and they've been importing Black Lives Matter to try and change their culture.

[–]VacaLeitera767 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, that is true, there is a leftist and media campaign to racialize Brazil, ironically it is the upper class and "LGBTQ"-type people, who are alienated from mainstream brazilian culture that are buying into it, while it is largely ignored and laughed at by the mixed-race population.

Aggressive, virulent blacks are being shoved down people's throats, and I can already sense a backlash, this is going to be a monumental failure. Even the leftists themselves are acknowledging that their efforts are making brazilians' opinion of blacks more negative.

[–]VacaLeitera767 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, race is less strictly defined in Brazil but that doesn't change the fact that the upper and middle classes are visibly overwhelmingly European-descended.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Everyone in Brazil is European descended. That's the point. They may still look white, but their DNA reveals they still have significant concentrations of African or Amerindian genes. It's like Obama. He "looks" black but he's literally 50% white due to his parents.

[–]SoylentCapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

They are almost certainly at least 90% European

Why would they be buying imported Caucasian sperm then? The dykes are probably white, but the single women I doubt they're that white. Around 50% would make more sense.

[–]VacaLeitera767 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Because they want the semen of a guaranteed 100% nordic-looking European, which they can't get from brazilian sperm banks. They want a child with germanic facial structure, blond hair, and blue eyes. White brazilians look like iberians or italians.

[–]SoylentCapitalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Makes sense. Do you have any sources on what percent of Brazil's upper middle class is mixed/non-white?

[–]VacaLeitera767 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Brazilians are on average ~70% genetically European, ~20% African and ~10% Amerindian.(https://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S1415-47572019000400495)

I don't think there are any studies that control for class but it is just evident that the upper classes are much less mixed than the rest of the population while the poor have way more african ancestry (I say this because I'm brazilian). Upper class neighborhoods usually have 90%+ white population, and kinky hair is a rare feature among elite people, usually the non-white blood they have is amerindian.

These are the elected representatives for the São Paulo state assembly, fairly typical upper middle class people, as you can see they look predominantly "white latin" with some slight admixture. https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww3.al.sp.gov.br%2Frepositorio%2Fnoticia%2F03-2008%2FDeputados%2520Novos-Geral.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Why is Brazil's IQ only 87 and its so shitty when they're on average 70% European? Are they worse off because they're descended from dumber Euros, aka Portoguese?

Portugal has the lowest IQ in Western Europe, only 94

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Why is Brazil's IQ only 87 and its so shitty when they're on average 70% European?

Because that other 30% is dragging it down. African genes are weapons of mass destruction. Literally worse than nukes.

Portugal has the lowest IQ in Western Europe, only 94

Don't they have some African genes too?

[–]SoylentCapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Because that other 30% is dragging it down. African genes are weapons of mass destruction. Literally worse than nukes.

African-Americans have an average IQ of 85. That's literally a 2 point difference with Brazil, despite Brazil being 70% European.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You're comparing the IQ of American blacks with all people in Brazil. Why?

[–]SoylentCapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Since American blacks achieve a similar IQ as a nation that is 70% European, the small 20% African population isn't lowering it as much as you think.

[–]VacaLeitera767 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't know about the IQ part, but the shittiness of Brazil is exagerated by the alt right I believe. Half of the country (the southeastern and southern parts especially) is fairly functional. Most of the horrors and morbidity associated with Brazil usually come from favelas and suburbs of cities with large destitute populations, and as a middle-class person it is fairly easy to avoid all of that.