why are mainly rightwingers so into anti-vax conspiracies?

submitted by grocerymannn from self.debatealtright

for supposedly being so pro-science, it's odd why so many identitarians seem so adamant about vaccines making women infertile.

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[–]sylla94 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

science is based and dare i say, redpilled.

scientism aka science worship aka here's our unanimous panel of experts aka OMG I FREAKING like SCIENCE!!! is cringe and should be viewed with high levels of skepticism

if i'm gonna be forced to get a vaccine, i'm going with that kosher shit.

we should also try to recognize our white privilege and allow historically marginalized demographical minority groups first access to vaccines and see how that goes imo

[–]grocerymannn[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

yea, you're a retard, netanyahu himself took Pfizer

[–]sylla94 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

ye bro the elites totally took it

also ur mum gay

[–]VarangianRasputin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

On that note, I've heard Israel is looking to buy the Russian one for it's citizens. This whole situation is such a clusterfuck.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you for your enlightening words brother shalomovich

[–]yesofcoursenaturally 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Because being pro-scientist doesn't mean being pro-scientist. Scientists, especially in this age, are full of shit.

See the "scientific" response to mass protests out in public during a supposedly deadly pandemic: "Racism is a public health crisis too!"

See health officials, earlier in the year, insisting that blocking international travel was a terrible idea and in fact wearing a mask was a bad idea.

Science is doing just fine. Scientists have squandered their reputations.

[–]Nombre27 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Like most things, the shift in the supply and demand for scientists, if you can even call many of these people scientists, has been ruined as access to post-secondary education has become a "right." More and more unqualified people have entered a lot of fields and done an incredible amount of questionable, unreplicable research. A lot of (most?) social science doesn't even have testable hypotheses anymore.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis

[–]yesofcoursenaturally 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, STEM fields are often overfilled - turns out we can, in fact, have too many scientists. Especially when the "scientists" are just people with degrees that have been watered down.

The public perception of what is and isn't a scientist is also absurd.

And the fact is, scientists lie. They bullshit, they protect their reputations, they have their own philosophical and social projects. And yeah, things like the replication crisis don't get mentioned because if the public becomes skeptical of scientific claims or even science journalism, it can impact funding, which is all that matters for many of them.

I have little wonder that people are now finally saying "You know what, maybe these vaccines aren't trustworthy".

[–]VarangianRasputin 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not an anti-Vaxxer per se. But this vaccine and the conditions that caused us to develop it, that is what I find suspicious. They're insisting that we've all got to take this vaccine, but then in the UK, COVID has supposedly mutated. Guess that Vaccine is useless now? Nope. It's still so amazing that our health secretary was pretending to cry on live television about it.

[–]FoxySDTWhite Nationalist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I haven't seen anyone being anti-vaccines. No idea what you are talking about.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Not that I really give a fuck either way but who are these identitarians who are against vaccines?

Give me some specific individuals. The question is too broad otherwise.

[–]grocerymannn[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Saidit leans very heavily rightwing/identitarian. It's filled with anti-vax bullshit.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

How is anybody supposed to answer such a ridiculous question? Does SaidIt 'lean identitarian'? Could have fucking fooled me. If it did surely this sub would get more than a couple of dozen regular commenters.

[–]grocerymannn[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

fine, you wanna play dumb? stormfront itself has a whole section of its forum dedicated to COVID hoax, anti-vax bullshit idiocy. https://www.stormfront.org/forum/f241/?s=372a5f8054b0cc21043fc025c6b370a1

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wow Stormfront. That super popular and relevant site all the kids are using. Is it the 1990's? Are you accessing this site through AOL?

Again I'll ask you for specifics: Name an identitarian sub on SaidIt that is focusing on anti-vax stuff. Just give me FUCKING ONE.

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    [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Well if anyone has a problem with Nick Fuentes I suggest they talk to him. He hates my WN ideals probably as much as the left so how could I or most people here speak for him?

    [–]Wrangel 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I don't think many are. However a few people who are very paranoid and trust nothing get sucked into unlikely conspiracy theories and end up being the only ones talking about it.

    [–]DisgustResponse 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Would you opt for a medical procedure that has no longitudinal data?

    [–]Minedwe 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Not many are. The reason we are skeptical is 1. it is science 2. science, and extremely important field that Whites have contributed an insane amount to, just like every other achievement or idea Whites have, has been corrupted by globalists and Jews who sow distrust in these ideas and fields.

    Also, controlled opposition. I'd wager a decent amount of anti-vax shit is started and propagated by shills or loons that were shown the product of shills.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    There's a reactionary (lightswitch brain) element to it - when the system pushes a narrative, many conservative-/populist-minded people instinctively assume that the opposite must be true. This can also be a trap. We are better about this within the dissident sphere - we are revolutionaries, not reactionaries, and we focus on ascertaining the truth without regard to the system's ideas. I do oppose vaccines, not because they don't work (because they do), but because they facilitate the integration of diseased third-world "refugees."