If you argue that racism is inevitable in a multi-ethnic society, then every "racism scandal" would count towards your argument

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When a liberal shows you how racist the police are or some other segment of the population, simply agree with them and point out how this wouldnt have happened if the races lived separately

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[–]AFutureConcern 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This may be a good strategy, but I can't abide lies. Most of the time there is absolutely no evidence that any racial motive existed at all.

The real reason to separate the races is because of the reaction to events that look like they could be racially biased. People will cry racism anyway, so how can we possibly hope to eliminate it when the facts don't matter? Police are mostly not racially biased, certainly not to the degree claimed by black media pundits ("hunting us down in the street"), and yet they want to completely de-fund them anyway. It will never stop - like a drugged man attacking a hallucination, their quixotic fervor will lead them to tear down every institution in search of the mythical racists.

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

My favorite is bringing in millions of Africans to a country that will oppress them. Why would we do this? Shouldn't we fix our systemic oppression before subjecting these poor souls to it?

[–]lothrop_evola 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. I've always found it ridiculous that the same news organizations that constantly complain about racism in society are the very same ones endlessly pushing for more immigration.

[–]justjoggin 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Ok let’s test it for fun...

this wouldn’t have happened if the races lived separately

This wouldn’t happen if white people weren’t such racists!

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    [–]justjoggin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

    Then whites shouldn’t have created that “opportunity” when they 1) enslaved blacks, 2) bombed and looted the resources of brown countries basically forcing immigration to white countries, (which are safest because whites aren’t likely to bomb themselves.)

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      [–]justjoggin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

      “You’re right. And just as there is brutality in life, there is justice in response to that brutality.

      If my people have harmed others mercilessly, then to restore harmony in the universe, my people have to dutifully take it on the chin. Accept our punishment. Face justice. We deserve the retaliation against us.”

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        [–]justjoggin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

        There is no justice in being a dead loser. I am sorry, but your sense of morality is nothing more than a creation of misguided humans.

        For a moral person, this is sounding awfully selfish. Sacrificing oneself for the cause of justice is a commonly accepted righteous act. But this isn’t something either of us can really prove or disprove. So we’ll move on.

        There are only winners and losers, and the winners are always just and right.

        The Chosen ones have been winning for over half a century. You believe they are “just and right?”

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          [–]justjoggin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

          Ok. I think we can wrap up the test here.

          Personally, if I were a real leftist, I wouldn’t exactly feel BTFO’d by this line of argument. You were being logical, but I still felt morally superior in my crusade for equality and justice. Leftists literally see themselves on the frontline in a war for equal justice. They believe they are noble warriors sacrificing themselves for the cause.

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            [–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

            You could argue that crime is inevitable too; that doesn't mean we should tolerate it.

            [–]EuropeanAwakening 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            Except there is nothing inherently wrong with caring about your race more than others. Only when races are forced together does it become a problem. Racial separation would also reduce crime.

            So, I think your point kind of falls flat when it is evaluated in that context. I mean, you create the issue in the first place my forcing multiracialism.

            [–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Except there is nothing inherently wrong with caring about your race more than others.

            I didn't say there was. There is something wrong with persecuting other people, regardless of your opinion of them.

            Racial separation would also reduce crime.

            There would be no more theft if everybody's property belonged to me

            I mean, you create the issue in the first place my forcing multiracialism.

            You think liberals invented immigration?

            [–]bruker[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Crime is inevitable when humans live together in a society
            racism is inevitable when different races live together in a society

            You can have a society without different races, but you can't have a society without people. Therefore your argument makes no sense whatsoever

            [–]FoxySDTWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            Not tolerate it but we shouldn't pretend it will some day magically go away.

            [–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Yes, agreed