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[–]antireddit 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Unz is dead wrong here. Probably the main reason the Jewish elite is focusing so hard on setting blacks and their antifa goons loose on America is because Coronavirus has put their mass immigration replacement strategy on hold. If the economy completely craters it could turn the tide against immigration for a while.

They responded by pushing the overton window radically to the left on their racial incitement against whites. Its a full court press of antiwhite demonization in an effort to squash any notions of white solidarity and identity once and for all, break working class whites financially, and to censor and deplatform what dissident voices are left. They basically want whites to come in two flavors. Self hating Zealots that wont hesitate to prove their anti white bonifides by attacking fellow whites, and whites who are too scared and intimidated to speak up. The system they have built is now increasingly institutionally anti white and pro Jewish. Blacks or POC that turn on Jews will be dealt with the same way they deal with white dissidents. Deplatformed and propagandized against. Weve seen this with how they've responded to black celebs speaking out against them in recent weeks.

This is what happens when they control the entire media and 90% of the internet. It was the fucking Republicans that did this to America with their decades long campaign of deregulation, opposition to campaign finance reform, abolishment of the fairness doctrine, their embracing of neocons and the zionist lobby, citizens united, and their continuous tax giveaways to wall street and the 1% etc. There are so many things they did to bring this new dystopia to fruition, with plenty of democratic help. All this allowed the Jewish elite to exponentially increase their wealth and consolidate their power. They now effectively control virtually all means of mass communication, the entire Democratic party, the courts, and much of the governmental bureacracy.

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Self hating Zealots that wont hesitate to prove their anti white bonifides by attacking fellow whites

You're dead wrong here, their biggest fear is Whites attacking "Fellow Whites". :)

[–]antireddit 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Unz seems to think BLM are the problem, but he's wrong. BLM is just a symptom of the problem. The problem is the anti white elite that are stoking them. The alt right didnt fuck up by opposing mass immigration. They fucked up by acting like wignats after the 2016 election. Their charlottesville marches with tiki torch formations, Richard Spencer and his idiotic zeig heiling when Trump won, and their general Nazi fetishizing. They gave the elite the propaganda rope to hang them with, and the elite used it.The only thing they accomplished was helping fuel Jewish paranoia and convincing them to go masks off and use the power they've been quietly accumulating for decades.

Whether that's a good thing because its causing them to accelerate the slide of the US into an overtly anti white failed state while there are still a couple hundred million whites left in this country remains to be seen. They are definitely unwittingly making an increasingly strong case for balkanization.

[–]EuropeanAwakening 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Spencer didn't Seig Heil, he said Hail Trump and raised his glass. This should show you it doesn't matter what we do, they will call us anything they can to create the ingrained disgust response in the average person. The torch march was great looking and very organized and professionally done for how disorganized the IRL movement is in general.

[–]antireddit 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Even saying hail trump was stupid, its kind of a cheeky hehe I did a crypto nazi salute arent I clever thing, and its my understanding other people in the room did do a Nazi Salute and/or uttered seig heil.

Im not into "marches" at all. They do nothing in the current climate except set yourself up to look like fanatics and potentially lead to violence that can be further spun by the media. I get the left do it continually, and to be honest they look like psychos when they do, the difference of course being the entire media and internet is controlled by people who put a good spin on it and a corrupt court system that will get them back out on the streets with a slap on the wrist if they are arrested(which takes a combination of bad luck and overt violence to occur for them anyway).

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Spencer didn't Seig Heil, he said Hail Trump and raised his glass.

He might as well have, c'mon.

The torch march was great looking and very organized and professionally done for how disorganized the IRL movement is in general.

Agreed.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The elite would've found another excuse to purge them before 2020 either way

[–]TheJamesRocket 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I read this article earlier today, and I am not impressed. Unz makes the case that white majority, Democrat cities are rioting, whereas white minority cities are not. And therefore, the Republican focus on restricting immigration is misguided.

Imagine if we extended this analogy to Israel. 'Oh look, the Palestinians are so well behaved! They aren't out rioting like the Jews are! Maybe Israel should reconsider their immigration policy. Maybe they should dismantle their borders and let more Palestinians in.'

Its a very weak argument, really. More than anything, it reveals the Jewish side to Unz' character.

[–]Nombre27 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It doesn't seem to be the first time that he's conflating things or ignoring conflation (see his Hispanic crime article where iirc he never addressed the miscategorization of Hispanic criminals as white/Caucasian).

While in this article he doesn't seem to care to further parse what groups the white rioters belong to.

If he wanted to be more honest, he should have been more comprehensive in his analysis of which cities are rioting the most, there demographics, etc. Instead he chose to be rather lazy and look at Portland (anarchist/communist hotbed) and Minneapolis (where Floyd incident happened) as if those are representative and possess total explanatory power.

[–]aukofthecovenantWhite man with eyes 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was a fool to believe that immigration mattered, that there was anything in American politics and culture other than the sadomasochistic relationship between white liberals and blacks.

I don't see how the unnamed writer could miss that these are not mutually exclusive. Maybe he's just being hyperbolic? To pick a random example, low-IQ populations will tend to produce fewer doctors and at least as many people who need medical help (percentage-wise), so immigration of low-IQ populations will gradually stress the healthcare system. This has nothing to do with liberals or blacks.

The point about the relationship between blacks and white liberals is well-made, though it's just a rehash of classic "white guilt".

But within that national average, some cities are still largely white, and these have demonstrated an intriguing pattern.

Is it just me, or has this pattern only been on display for the George Floyd protests? As I recall, previous protests over cops killing blacks were mostly done by blacks, but I wasn't paying much attention back then.

So this is the dilemma faced by Alt-Right leaders and similar “nationalist” right-wingers, including many of the individuals around Trump. They have spent the last few years focusing on a largely synthetic issue that has very little connection to the actual reality that most ordinary Americans see [emphasis added] in their day-to-day lives. And as a result, they may have destroyed themselves politically.

It is bad political strategy, no question. That doesn't mean that it isn't a good idea, because immigration still has effects that people don't see right in front of them - the aforementioned healthcare impact, or election outcomes. If you don't actually go look at demographic breakdowns of votes cast, you might never notice the effect of immigration on elections. But it is there.

[–]antireddit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Anti white elites have a two pronged strategy. One is reducing the white percentage of the population through demographic warfare(mass immigration). The second is blanketing the population with anti white propaganda in an effort to make whites hate themselves and fear being identified as white while stoking non white hatred of whites.

By far the more important of the two is the demographic warfare, which the alt right understands(but not civnats/alt lites), but which Unz apparently doesnt understand, which is disappointing. He usually is pretty sharp on these things. Im not sure why Unz feels the alt right had to give up one to focus on the other. Im against demonizing hispanics the way Trump has done, thats counter productive. I have nothing against hispanics personally, they are just pawns in a larger game, and Steve Sailer was absolutely proven right in his analysis that focusing on immigration was a winning strategy for Trump in 2016.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Polls show immigration is not a huge issue for America unlike in Europe. In fact polls show Americans more pro immigration than ever including conservatives. Conservatives just hate liberals and because Trump became the boogie man to liberal America he got support from Conservative America. Most conservatives will say they are fine with more immigration as long as it is legal therefore they are not concerned with demographic replacement. Trump got support from the Alt Right for certain statements but he didn't win because of his comments about immigration.

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Im against demonizing hispanics the way Trump has done, thats counter productive

Absolutely. It's about the Change we never asked for and don't believe will be in our interests and we don't have to explain to anybody our motivations. Mexico's constitution iirc explicitly states, paraphrasing here, "to maintain a stable society (lol) we don't want immigrants or foreign influence, i.e. foreigners STFU when here". However, compare that to US Hispanics for a laugh.

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

God I hate this article.

[–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What specifically?

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Several reasons but it boils down to nonsensical arguments.

Conflates immigration with BLM.

Sees America as a Jewish outsider, i.e. White Advocacy is irrelevant at best.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well this makes sense from the perspective of a Jew who has no interest in a white majority, but just the prolonging of whatever status quo he has where he lives. But he fails to see the consequences of the entire nation turning into California politically. There's a good chance he'll be purged himself when that happens.

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

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[–]antireddit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

One of the things I like about Unz is that he probably reads the comments and doesnt take things personally, and seems open to changing his mind when new information is presented. He seems like a really open minded guy. Thats extremely rare these days, and its what we need more of. We are part of a dwindling reality based community. The left used to be part of this community, but now they are bigger ideological zealots than the right are. BLM and woke bullshit is their new religion, and they are far less tolerant of heretics than evangelicals ever were.

[–]Jacinda 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm a big fan of Unz as well. I can't begin to imagine the flack he gets for his website.

TRS did a podcast criticizing his article but it's behind a paywall so I haven't managed to listen to it yet.

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FTN 329: Shalom Commodi

Jazz and James deconstruct Ron Unz' "The Political Bankruptcy of American White Nationalism", its obvious omissions, along with many of the same subtle patterns we've observed elsewhere, and how it will fit neatly with the narratives already being prepped for a post-Trump postmortem on the state of American conservatism. [Cont...]